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Europe's Heatwave is Forcing Nuclear Power Plants To Shut Down (qz.com)

Europe's heatwave -- which led to wildfires in Greece and Sweden, droughts in central and northern parts, and made the normally green UK look brown from space -- is forcing nuclear plants to shut down or curtail the amount of power they produce, local media reports. From a report: French utility EDF shut four reactors at three power plants on Saturday, Swedish utility Vattenfall shut one of two reactors at a power plant earlier last week, and nuclear plants in Finland, Germany, and Switzerland have cut back the amount of power they produce. Thermal power plants, such as nuclear or coal, use high-temperature steam to turn turbines, which convert heat energy into electricity. In the process, the steam's temperature falls, so it can no longer be used to move the turbine again. [...] Europe's heatwave, however, hasn't just increased air temperatures but also water temperatures.

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  1. We care about climate change by foxalopex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with climate change isn't so much as our planet breaking but everything we depend on breaking. Somewhat wacky that nuclear reactors aren't designed to handle this heat but then again I would have never imagined the crazy kind of temperatures Europe has skyrocketed up to. So one has to wonder, what other stuff is going to break?

    1. Re:We care about climate change by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The problem with climate change isn't so much as our planet breaking but everything we depend on breaking. Somewhat wacky that nuclear reactors aren't designed to handle this heat but then again I would have never imagined the crazy kind of temperatures Europe has skyrocketed up to. So one has to wonder, what other stuff is going to break?

      Nuclear reactors can handle high temps just fine. Only in places where there is limited cooling water and cooling releases rise above local environmental limits are they cut back.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/j...

      In Germany, recently, nuclear was a steady producer while wind was barely producing.

      https://www.energy-charts.de/p...

    2. Re:We care about climate change by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Germany produces 3 times more power from wind than from nuclear. Moron ... Which is pretty clearly visible on your cherry picked graph.

      You miss the point. Germany has stupidly shut down nuclear plants, but nuclear is still available when needed, unlike wind. One chooses charts to illustrate points, I chose one illustrating what is happening during a heat wave. Sorry you don't like that.

      For the heat wave weeks, nuclear generated more than wind. Even with 58 GW installed wind vs 9.5 GW installed nuclear.

      https://www.energy-charts.de/e...
      https://www.energy-charts.de/e...
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      https://www.energy-charts.de/e...

  2. Re:uhhh cool the water then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nuke plants mostly perform well in hot weather and carry the system when other sources are struggling. A few reactors have to cut back due to heat limits on cooling water. The total percentage of nuclear reduction across the board is less than 10%. Meanwhile, wind power during the recent heat wave was down over 80%. Nuclear was carrying the load. Particularly it was critical in late afternoon and evening when solar fades. There were times when wind production during these critical times dropped below 1% of demand.

    https://news.bloombergenvironment.com/environment-and-energy/europes-power-prices-rise-as-heat-wave-saps-wind-from-turbines

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-01/scorching-start-to-august-set-to-test-europe-s-power-system

  3. Re:uhhh cool the water then? by Sarten-X · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's a terrible summary.

    The problem is that the water is chilled... but it's chilled by running it through colder water, usually pulled from a lake or a stream. Usually this isn't a problem, because the waste heat doesn't disrupt the ecosystem too much.

    Right now, however, the environment is so warm that adding the waste heat would push temperatures above acceptable levels, killing the local ecosystem. Instead, the reactors are shut down to minimize the amount of heat they have to dissipate.

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  4. Reason why reactors were shut down by Morgaine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From TFA, the reason why the reactors were shut down (which wasn't included in the summary) is:

    Europe's heatwave, however, hasn't just increased air temperatures but also water temperatures. Regulations protecting wildlife mean that the usual water sources drawn on by nuclear plants cannot always be used for cooling, leading to shutdowns. It's not the first time this has happened: Heatwaves forced nuclear shutdowns or curtailments across Europe in 2003, 2006, and 2015.

    Yeah, I know that reading TFA is no longer cool on Slashdot, but someone has to help out the editors. :P

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  5. Re:Poor design. It's not my problem by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Poor design. All over the world there are nuclear plants operating just fine in hot tropical and subtropical climates, including the USA. Never has been a problem. So the Euros are doing something wrong with their designs.

    Almost all the European nukes are running just fine, full output. Only a few have cut back due to discharge heat limits.

  6. Re:uhhh cool the water then? by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's rivers in the US where power plants have raised the water temperature 20 degrees and essentially displaced the entire habitat.

    An exaggeration. But do you know how much habitat Hydro power has displaced by comparison?

  7. Re: uhhh cool the water then? by AHuxley · · Score: 4, Informative

    Its a German and EU political and environmental problem. eg Thermal pollution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    The cooling water drawn from rivers, lakes, or seas will get more warm in hooter weather as more cooling water is needed.
    German laws put limits on how hot cooling water can be when returned to such "rivers, lakes, or seas".
    Laws limited the exisiting cooling engineering.

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  8. Re: uhhh cool the water then? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The cooling water drawn from rivers, lakes, or seas will get more warm in hooter weather as more cooling water is needed.

    This is presumably weather so warm that women take off their tops.

  9. Re: uhhh cool the water then? by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is europe, we do that even in the cold weather.