Slashdot Mirror
P2P Piracy is Alive and Growing, Research Suggests (torrentfreak.com)
From a report: In recent years Hollywood and other entertainment sources have focused their enforcement efforts on pirate streaming sites and services. According to several reports, streaming sites get more traffic than their P2P counterparts, with the latter being almost exclusively BitTorrent related. While the rise of online streaming sites can't be denied, a new research report from anti-piracy outfit Irdeto shows that P2P remains very relevant. In fact, it's still the dominant piracy tool in many countries. Irdeto researched site traffic data provided by an unnamed web analytics partner. The sample covers web traffic to 962 piracy sites in 19 countries where P2P was most used. This makes it possible to see how P2P site visits compare to those of pirate streaming sites.
Is this really surprising? There's still tons of software out there that makers no longer support or distribute, tons of TV shows that Netflix doesn't stock. As fragmentation of the online streaming market grows (Disney Online) Expect piracy to grow back in as people's $10/month subscriptions fail to deliver them the content they want and rather than pay $80+ for 8+ different streaming services they just go back to piracy.
When it's more inconvenient to pay for a legitimate version than to use an unauthorized copy, you lose.
When I want the download of a single song to take a week, it's eDonkey FTW!
-- You are in a maze of little, twisty passages, all different... --
I really wish people would get ths straight.
"Copyright piracy" is a legal term that has been around for about 150 years. Though some copyright owners (I'm looking at you, Disney) certainly want to make people think it means something else. That's why they call everything piracy.
But actually it refers to people who make unauthorized copies and distribute them, usually for personal gain (like profit).
In other words, "piracy" basically means people who make copies and sell them.
Piracy is a crime. But just downloading -- if that's all you're doing -- is NOT piracy, and is not a crime. It is a civil violation, comparable to making a personal copy of a videotape.
People who upload videos to torrent sites might be pirates -- if they do it for some kind of personal gain -- but not people who just download.
Having said that: many (but not all) torrent programs force you to upload at the same time you are downloading. Technically, that might be considered piracy in some cases, but usually isn't. It's a pretty damned hard case to make in court.
Also, there does exist software that does not force you to upload when you download. Though you might have to look hard to find it.
well theft is theft.
For the majority of the people east to the iron curtain. They could try geolocking and sell it at a reduced price, but the EU won't allow that for the member counties, and the market is too small to bother.
Haven't studies shown that pirates (as a whole) are also big consumers of non-pirated goods? The industry needs to stop whining and start capitalizing.
Are you drunk or high or something?
"Copyright piracy" is a legal term
No. Never has been.
In other words, "piracy" basically means people who make copies and sell them.
Bullshit. It's been known as "pirate copying" and "pirate copies" since we were trading floppies in the school yard 30 years ago, obviously completely non-commercial. You just made up your own terms, your own definitions and is going on a rant because nobody gets it "right" even though you're the one trying to redefine everything.
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
Duh? The files still aren't for sale, even in 2018. You can wave your money in their faces but you cannot force the video industry to take it.
So for most shows, if you want to watch it on standard equipment, piracy is the only option. Your money is unwelcome.
Most "piracy" is freeloading, very little "piracy" is actual piracy i.e. distributing other people's work for your own profit. But please do not pretend the latter doesn't exist, or that the worlds don't intersect.
Still, word of the day: Freeloading.
Comment removed based on user account deletion
(emphasis mine, because apparently it's needed)
the shit however hollywood is putting out ....im at about 5% of what used to do cause 95% IS 100% BULLSHIT GARBAGE
Grand parent is absolutely right. Piracy used to be the unlicensed distribution of unlicensed copyrighted material, while unlicensed copies for private use were just mere infringements. Noone would ever call the creator of mix tapes a pirate, when he only gave them to his friends.
Interestingly, the cambridge dictionary sticks with the old definition, while the RIAA already got to merriam webster
cambridge dicitonary
Merriam-webster
You can't own anything anymore. You can only purchase access to view/listen/use it through some service... services aren't always available, and even when they are, the internet isn't always available, and even when it is, your hardware might not be up to snuff.
With my personal collection, barring some out-of-left-field tech issue, I know it's going to work every time and be right there where I want it.
With online services, the price might increase, there might be updates or patches that force you to cough up personal information.
It's like, no... I just want to give you money, and then you give me a product, and we part ways. Not, I give you money, and then you keep spying on me and sending me ads and essentially "following" through the cloud.
Wow this rant went all over the place, but seriously, for all it's advantages, I'm fed up with streaming anything.
I wonder what data they used? TFA talks about P2P web traffic, but P2P does not use the web.
>"Copyright piracy" is a legal term
Infringement is. In fact, one judge actually ruled against a prosecution that kept saying pirates/piracy, after the defense had enough.
Infringement isn't limited to distribution.
"Just downloading" is still infringement.
Go ahead and seed, pussy. Your delusions were never protecting you.
no you dipshit you are a clueless fuck who probably still has pimples. piracy is when you MAKE MONEY from your warez.
It's true that many pirate videos and music because they don't want to pay. But it is also true that many, probably many more, do so because piracy (e.g ThePirateBay.org) is a very convenient way of getting the material; sometimes the only way. Content owners insist in making it difficult to access the material, in curtailing where it can be played, in creating artificial scarcity, in treating consumers, first and foremost, as potential thieves.
Content owners, make the material, all the material, available all the time, on all platforms, at a reasonable cost, without unnecessary complications, and millions out there will pay for the privilege of consuming it. Carry on doing what you are doing, and piracy will flourish. Which implies that piracy will flourish, for there is no chance in hell that current content owners will pull their heads out of you-know-where.
Max Planck famously said that science advances one funeral at a time. That's probably true as well of the entertainment industry.
I'm doing my part!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3ywBX1OGeE
Moreover, the real piracy is the copyright lawyers denying access to the public domain. When the copyright MONOPOLY rule was established, it was a deal: A LEGAL MONOPOLY for 14 years, in exchange for the work reverting to the PUBLIC DOMAIN after that.
Today the lawyers call the LEGAL MONOPOLY "intellectual property", implying it is perpetual, and they have indeed made it so.
This is the piracy, not some bloke downloading bits off the Internet.
I'd be willing to pay a subscription to watch UKTV here in Germany. It simply isn't possible. So what do I do, accept the geo-blocking or find a way around it ? I found a way around it.
What is "piracy" anyway?
"the practice of attacking and robbing ships at sea."
When children in school are accused of being a cross between Henry Morgan and Jack Sparrow, you know that the RIAA, MAFIAA etc are full of s**t. It may, or may not be theft. I think it is but it is not, by any stretch of the imagination anything like what still happens off the Horn of Africa!
I'll see your Constitution and raise you a Queen.
"Copyright piracy" is a legal term that has been around for about 150 years.
In that 150 year old case you are referring to it wasn't a lawyer using the word pirate. It was the plaintiff comparing the defendant to literal pirates.
Even then "pirate" only meant someone committing robbery on the seas.
The copyright lobbyists have pushed this comparison ever since and people who are susceptible to propaganda swallowed it.
If you think pirate is an interesting "legal" term you should hear what the non-lawyers calls each other in custody cases.
But just downloading -- if that's all you're doing -- is NOT piracy, and is not a crime.
That's why they sue people for distribution. P2P platforms rely on you not only downloading but redistributing the content.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
True.
And unless the law has recently changed, here in Canada sharing is still legal.
Downloading is not stealing; despite what Hollywood wants you to believe.
Accusing kids in school of being Jack Sparrow is maybe not what the MAFIAA wants to do, especially when at the same time depicting him as a hero and overall cool guy...
Kids just might get that wrong.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
When do i get to do a job and sell the results a million times
when i get to dig a hole and sell the results a million times... thats when ill stop pirating
media is typically one-sided and only promotes the artists they are paid to promote indoctrinating the young into tasteless garbage who dont have a buck to find anything else...and any artists that have artistic integrity aren't creating art for the money they are doing it for expression...anything else is a business and business isnt art.
Bullshit. It's been known as "pirate copying" and "pirate copies" since we were trading floppies in the school yard 30 years ago, obviously completely non-commercial. You just made up your own terms, your own definitions and is going on a rant because nobody gets it "right" even though you're the one trying to redefine everything.
Because you were progagandized into believing it. Not my problem, ace.
30 years isn't much compared to about 150. And your misuse of a legal term is not my problem.
Here are some citations from around 1900.
In 1852 France accused the US of wanton "copyright piracy".
You really shouldn't open your mouth when there are no facts in the brain driving it.
I covered this in my comment.
I already said it.
And they can only sue for distribution if there is intent to gain personally... i.e., piracy.
Well... to clarify, they can sue, but they probably have no chance of winning unless they can show that your motive was personal gain.
Distribution per se is no crime. Only unauthorized distribution with an intent of personal gain.
If you let me copy your DVD, you haven't "distributed with intent of gain", unless I pay or trade you something for that DVD.
Are you drunk or high or something?
Actually, Kjella, this time it's you who appears to be way, way, waaaaaay off base.