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Colorado Candidate For Governor Wants To Put His State On the Blockchain (gizmodo.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Gizmodo: The Democratic nominee for governor of Colorado, U.S. Representative Jared Polis, wants to add blockchain to the list of items voters consider this year. Polis currently represents Colorado's 2nd district in the House, and he won the Democratic gubernatorial nomination last month. He's held his seat in the House for about a decade and has been a fairly solid progressive. On Wednesday, Polis added a set of limited proposals regarding blockchain to his gubernatorial platform that at least give us an idea of what it means for a politician to campaign on blockchain. Polis told us he would like to resolve some of the "ambiguity" in federal rules, encourage fintech company investment, remove some licensing requirements for token securities, and exempt cryptocurrencies from state money transition laws. He says these companies are "trying to fit what they're doing into an obsolete, outdated, and often obsolete federal law."

Polis also wants to explore how blockchain could be used for voting security. Polis isn't ready to necessarily endorse moving all voting to the blockchain system. He likes paper ballots and told us, "this would be more how the information is generated and stored from those paper ballots rather than doing so in a centralized database it would be done across a distributed ledger." The congressman also thinks that blockchain could be used to streamline the process for storing public records and making them available to the public. "We're talking more about everything from Colorado contracts, expenditures, titles, a lot of the data-intensive aspects of state government can be more secure and more accessible through distributed ledgers," he said.

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  1. voteing where 51% of the cpu power controls the ru by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    voteing where 51% of the cpu power controls the rules? like that will not be fixed by people with deep pockets.

  2. Seemed appropriate by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Insightful
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    1. Re:Seemed appropriate by OYAHHH · · Score: 1

      Nailed It!

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    2. Re:Seemed appropriate by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      Fuck me. Software has got to be the worst possible form of government.

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    3. Re:Seemed appropriate by 14erCleaner · · Score: 1
      But it's blockchain! Blockchain fixes everything!!!!!

      I'll probably vote for him because he's the Democratic nominee, but Polis strikes me as such a phony sometimes.

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    4. Re:Seemed appropriate by Scoldog · · Score: 1

      I would have thought this was more appropriate https://www.theregister.co.uk/...

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    5. Re:Seemed appropriate by grasshoppa · · Score: 1

      I would dearly *love* to have my boss's backing to order blockchain kit and get it installed for several pilot projects.... ...the primary ( and only ) one being to mine ME bitcoins. But you know, we'd have blockchain technology!

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    6. Re:Seemed appropriate by Dr.+Tom · · Score: 1

      came here for this, leaving satisfied

    7. Re:Seemed appropriate by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      Are there any deserts in Colorado? I've got a pair of gloves I can lend out.

  3. What does that mean? by phantomfive · · Score: 2

    It means we haven't hit peak blockchain insanity yet, and probably won't for quite some time.

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    1. Re:What does that mean? by LtUoNXizqxawTj4ofx7t · · Score: 1

      Why is a tech site like slashdot full of tech people constantly bashing blockchain? I remember everybody bashing Bitcoin here since the beginning. Isn't this some kind of a new technology circlejerking denial?

    2. Re:What does that mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because 99% of people talking about "blockchain" aren't talking about something that it makes sense to use blockchains for. Imagine if people started yelling about "splay trees" and "splay tree technology". You'd be like splay trees are great and all, but that's not a valid use for a splay tree when they start talking about making a salad.

      That's what hearing about blockchain and voting (or campaigning) is like.

    3. Re:What does that mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "That's what hearing about blockchain and voting (or campaigning) is like."

      Why are distributed ledgers and voting records like splay trees and salad.

    4. Re:What does that mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe because it is full of people who actually understand blockchain and everywhere else is full of marketers and snake oil sales men who just want to sell you something new and fancy without actually knowing what they are selling you?

      Block chain is a distributed ledger that is verified through a cryptographic process. It allows for there to be no central authority to trust because you are supposed to trust the math. The problems start happening when a specific group controls more than a certain percentage of the processing power. From there you can see that block chain is never economically efficient when you already have a central authority that everyone has to trust anyways, it just adds on to the complexity of the working system. There are really very few problems that can be solved by a distributed ledger and to really consider block chain in any problem there must be a lack of one central authority that holds the majority of the power already. This is why crypto currencies dont really work, first because the government of any country can quite simply outlaw it or manipulate it enough to crash the currency. Secondly the promise of being "anonymous" is complete hogwash, any money transferred between wallets is noted in the ledger thus it is easy enough to track the money as it jumps from wallet to wallet (and the FBI are really good at it!)

      The only reason that blockchain and crypto curriencies are a thing is because they came along at a time when there is little to no innovation in the world and salespeople needed something to try and sell to the gullible. Think about it, pretty much all electronics have hit an iterative cycle with the next version being marginally better than the last ( and yes, VR and AR are just the next iteration of display technology)

    5. Re:What does that mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It means we haven't hit peak blockchain insanity yet, and probably won't for quite some time.

      Great news! That tells me that all the crazy ideas have yet to be dis-proven and some great new innovation may yet be in the works. Perhaps blockchain will eventually have greater use than pump and dump after all!

  4. "Encourage fintech company investment" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As if we didn't already know which side his bread was buttered on.

    I'm voting for Stapleton.

    1. Re:"Encourage fintech company investment" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great. Any other worthless nazis that you are voting for?
      And I am guessing that you are from another state or Russia, so do not forget to vote and vote multiple times. That way, you can help your party. again. and again.

  5. Polis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eight years ago I exit the 120X bus at the 120th station and there is Polis wanting to shake everyone's hand. A bit of show, but at least he tried to meet people unlike his predecessor Udall and whoever the hell his challenger was that year.

    Eight years later I can't think of anything that has changed in the 2nd district of Colorado, except the district boundaries. But maybe he will be a good governor. I don't know. Having lived here for two decades it seems nothing changes. Except the California assholes who have infested this state and raised real estate prices into bubble land, and the pot heads who made Lodo once again a place to avoid.

    But I still think about leaving this place for warmer climates. Or waiting for it to warm up. Eventually.

  6. Be the link in the chain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Block hard! Block harder! Block HARDEST! Trump powa!

    1. Re:Be the link in the chain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you started reading the summary but couldn't make it past "The"?

  7. Hmm ... titles by drew_kime · · Score: 1

    Blockchain for real-estate titles isn't stupid.

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    1. Re:Hmm ... titles by Spazmania · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Blockchain for real-estate titles isn't stupid.

      As a matter of fact, it is.Blockchain would be a terrible idea for real estate. Understand the two key things about it and you'll understand why:

      First, Blockchain is used when there is no suitable central authority to rely on. Each change to a protected asset is cryptographically authenticated by equipment run by multiple organizations. The consensus of those authentications accepts the change. When a central authority like a government agency is readily available, there is no need for this technique. Indeed it's more expensive than using a single trusted central authority.

      Second, Blockchain is intentionally irreversible. Once a change is published and accepted, it can never be removed or undone. In financial transactions, that's actually a bad thing. Combating fraud in financial transactions (such as real estate transactions) critically depends on reversing false changes.

      An asset protected by Blockchain can only be changed by someone who has the key for the most recent change. When your key is stolen and used to publish a false change, that's no longer you... it's the thief. When your key is lost on a crashed hard drive, nobody can publish further changes to the asset. Ever again.

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    2. Re: Hmm ... titles by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      What happens when you lose the key? The property disappears?

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    3. Re:Hmm ... titles by LtUoNXizqxawTj4ofx7t · · Score: 1

      How is central DB secure when admin or a hacker can change records? That is the whole reason why you want to go blockchain for mission critical data. Hackers can't change it on blockchain because it is immutable by design.

    4. Re: Hmm ... titles by LtUoNXizqxawTj4ofx7t · · Score: 1

      It doesn't disappear - it is just a immutable record saying that you own the property - unlike paper/central DB designs where this data can be changed so your ownership can disappear. Does it make sense to use blockchain from this perspective? I think so...

    5. Re: Hmm ... titles by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      I know people who've lost their private bitcoin keys. I don't know anyone who's had the records of ownership lost on their property.

      So let's see if you've thought this through.....imagine I lose the crypto-key for my property. What will happen? I can't sell my property anymore (because a key would be needed for that)?

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    6. Re:Hmm ... titles by Spazmania · · Score: 2

      Re-read what I wrote. I answered that question.

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    7. Re: Hmm ... titles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It doesn't disappear - it is just a immutable record saying that you own the property - unlike paper/central DB designs where this data can be changed so your ownership can disappear. Does it make sense to use blockchain from this perspective? I think so...

      You said as if the ownership of the property will never be changed. No, the property doesn't disappear, but the ability to update does. Does it make sense to use blockchain from this perspective? I don't think so.

    8. Re: Hmm ... titles by drew_kime · · Score: 1

      Wish I'd seen your reply before leaving town. The thing you're missing is that there is no central database of home ownership today. When you buy or sell a house, one of the services you pay for is a title search. The agent pulls all records on the property from the county court and checks to see if the seller has clear title. All that means is the only records on file show consecutive transfers to the current seller. You may instead find multiple claims on a property, which could indicate fraud, or conflicting interests like in a disputed will. Worst case you may find a bank has filed foreclosure, regardless of the fact that the current occupant owns it free and clear. You recall this was in the news a few years ago. Judges just assumed the banks were right in these disputes. Why there isn't a central database for this now is a longer discussion, but my point here is that a distributed immutable ledger would help reduce a type of fraud that has been used in the real world.

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    9. Re: Hmm ... titles by drew_kime · · Score: 1

      Sorry for the wall of text. Didn't realize the mobile app doesn't do preview.

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    10. Re: Hmm ... titles by Spazmania · · Score: 1

      "Now that I've made my final mortgage payment Mr. Bank, please sign the property over to my crypto ID."

      "Sorry, the key we used for your property was lost in the Great Server Crash of '15."

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    11. Re: Hmm ... titles by drew_kime · · Score: 1

      That only happens because Bitcoin is anonymous. Title transfers wouldn't be.

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    12. Re: Hmm ... titles by Spazmania · · Score: 1

      Anonymity has nothing to do with it. If the key is lost you can't perform the cryptography necessary to transfer the asset. Regardless of whether you can legally prove who the lost key belonged to.

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    13. Re: Hmm ... titles by drew_kime · · Score: 1

      It's entirely possible I misunderstand some blockchain details, please correct me if I'm wrong. I understand each transaction can optionally contain additional information besides just the financial details. I thought this information is readable to anyone. If this is the case, I would put the legal names of the parties in that data. Then if someone loses their key you could create a new entry that references the orphaned transaction. The physical property isn't lost like a bitcoin just because you can't transfer it in the normal way.

      This would mean you could still have inconclusive title, but you could make fraud less likely by locking all transactions with the lost key. In other words, if a bank has been a party to thousands of transactions and they say they've lost their key, you'd have to lock all their transactions, making it really painful and expensive to reestablish new records for all properties. If an individual buyer lost their key, the last known-good transaction would still show them as the title holder, with the bank as the lien holder.

      Blockchain is just the ledger. The value is in what the ledger describes. Cryptocurrency is an anomalous use case in that the ledger is also the repository of value.

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    14. Re: Hmm ... titles by Spazmania · · Score: 1

      You're correct, but then you have an origin problem: how do you determine that the first record in the new chain is the authentic descriptor of the property? For that matter, how do you determine that the first record in any chain is an authentic descriptor of the property?

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    15. Re: Hmm ... titles by drew_kime · · Score: 1

      That's what I'm telling you, that's a problem today. I've worked in real estate and as bad a system as physical copies at the county courthouse may be, the solution proposed by the mortgage industry - just let us build a database and we'll take care of it - is a thousand times worse. Unless you're a bank, then it's literally a machine for stealing homes.

      With a blockchain ledger you're no better off in the first step, but every subsequent transaction increases trust.

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  8. Re:voteing where 51% of the cpu power controls the by ole_timer · · Score: 1

    don't confuse how bitcoin works with how voting might work...

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  9. How do I buy shares?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are gonna skyrocket!!! How do I buy in???

  10. just what we need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fucking pot heads and krypto kurrency kweerz. this is part of whats wrong with 'murka.

  11. 3D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, I want MY state to be on the 3D Printed, AI-ML enabled, Blockchain. I understand that it would be web scale!

    PS. Can someone explain to me why some people say that "state is evil"? I am proud of my beautiful state!

    1. Re:3D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you're stoned, you don't know any better. you're part of the problem.

  12. Encrypt the whole state by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    You will need to be decrypted before you leave.

  13. Solid Progressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't forget to wipe!

  14. BS Detector by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "exempt cryptocurrencies from state money transition laws". Hmm... that should be quite convenient for money laundering. Everything in that story tripped my BS detector.

  15. Re:voteing where 51% of the cpu power controls the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, well, I'm from Colorado, and Jared Polis is well known for being an idiot. But he has a D behind his name, he's gay and his seat is Boulder, CO, so he's always won no problem. This guy actually said that anybody simply accused of rape on campus should be expelled immediately because "it's better safe than have a potential rapist on campus". When he was called out for his "guilty until proven innocent" views, he said he misspoke, but never apologized for what he said. If there were a poster child for the regressive left, he'd be it.

  16. Exempt cryptocurrencies by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    exempt cryptocurrencies from state money transition laws? I know it's legal to smoke there but, man, there comes a time when you need to slow down. On the plus side if he pulls it off I could see Colorado being the equivalent to incorporating in Delaware as far as shady crypto currency transactions go.

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  17. Khowl Hog by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of that Family Guy episode where Lois runs for office and replies, "Nine Eleven!" for every question, and is cheered.

    "Sir, how do you feel about state computer cybersecurity?"

    "We will use blockchain technology!"

    "And what about the wildfires?"

    "Blockchain!"

    "And the local millage for the high school swimming pool?"

    "Block..."

    (Everyone leans forward...)

    "...chain!" (Cheers!)

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  18. Blockchain can prevent voting fraud by burtosis · · Score: 1, Troll

    By fraud, I mean inside jobs that paper ballots don't protect against. We aren't looking for the cheapest solution, but the most secure one. The number of times paper ballots have gone missing, or been accidentally destroyed, even when subpoenaed, is astounding. Keep the hand marked paper ballots, count and use them as the primary method, mark each with a digital signature that is the identifying owner and the key in the blockchain that the voter does not see. Have all the voting precincts across the state, or nation, distribute the ledger using the digital credentials to verify the chain. This will put an end to "losing the ballots" and wiping a single server or losing a few USB keys being viable voter suppression methods while still using the paper as the primary method and blockchain to reduce fraud. The sheer number of times this has happened sickens me and something needs to be done besides some paultry fines people gladly pay to change the outcome.

    1. Re:Blockchain can prevent voting fraud by burtosis · · Score: 0

      Go ahead, Mod me a troll because you disagree with reality. Destroying ballots to avoid a recount while subpoenaed for said ballots happens.

    2. Re:Blockchain can prevent voting fraud by davide+marney · · Score: 1

      No, it can't. Voting fraud is a huge topic. It covers everything from voter registration, to selecting candidates, to running an election, to validating the results, to resolving disputes, to controlling equipment, processes, and people. It is an enormous undertaking, and it can't be fixed with a silver bullet.

      And furthermore, a blockchain is not private, it is the opposite of private, it has a technical dependency on not being private, in fact. But votes HAVE to be private. That's why we have physical elections where people go into privacy booths and mark their ballots where no one can see them.

      I urge all software engineers to volunteer as a poll worker, at least once. They need your expertise and your disciplined approach to work.

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    3. Re:Blockchain can prevent voting fraud by doom · · Score: 2

      And furthermore, a blockchain is not private, it is the opposite of private, it has a technical dependency on not being private, in fact. But votes HAVE to be private.

      I was trying to explain this to someone over on reddit just recently. Even if you presume the blockchain end of things is perfectly secure, and no one can check the status of your vote (or vote for you!) without your secret key, you still need to worry about cases like (1) your boss demands access to your key or you're fired, (2) you decide to sell your vote, and auction off your key, (3) your machine is cracked and your key is grabbed by some third party--- I mean, try envisioning a botnet that harvests voting keys and uses them to vote before their legitimate owner has a chance to...

    4. Re:Blockchain can prevent voting fraud by burtosis · · Score: 1

      Lmafo, did you not read my comment??? The key and user info is put on the paper hand filled ballot, by the machine, AFTER the ballot is turned in. It is hidden to the user and preserves the voting data in a secure distributed ledger rather than a centralized location. Paper is the primary method, the blockchain is backup for when legitimate or illegitimate accidents happen. We *already* use image backups of voting ballots, this is a method to ensure those backups are far harder to fake and nearly impossible to delete.

    5. Re:Blockchain can prevent voting fraud by burtosis · · Score: 1

      The user info is just the ballot info^ no information about the name or anything else is used just like the images we already store today. Too many people confuse Bitcoin with an encrypted distributed ledger.

  19. I'm waiting to see Colorado's reaction... by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When they tally the votes and realize their new governor will be Pepe the frog.

  20. Who benefits? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's worth conducting (for any worthy proposal) an examination into the question of "what are the rewards, and by whom are they reaped?"

    Who would benefit from exempting cryptocurrencies from state money transition laws?

    I feign no hypotheses.

  21. Re: voteing where 51% of the cpu power controls th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think he will sweep the state honestly. He is a self made millionare, and his boyfriend is handsome without being too unseemingly young. The Republican, Stapleton, is not a bad sort, but I think he will have a really uphill battle.

    The queerest thing about Polis is that he chose his own last name for market purposes instead of using his birth name.

  22. Bleeding edge politicians by Martin+S. · · Score: 1
  23. Re:voteing where 51% of the cpu power controls the by jythie · · Score: 1

    It is the same basic problem though. Blockchain is only a secure as it is shared.

  24. Re:voteing where 51% of the cpu power controls the by ole_timer · · Score: 1

    that's the security in it - the shared aspect helps ensure no single person or group can subvert it...that's the theory anyhow

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