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Will the Food Industry Botch the Introduction Of Gene-Edited Foods? (sfgate.com)
We've reached a milestone in gene-edited food, according to the Washington Post. "Calyxt's 'healthier' soybean oil, the industry's first true gene-edited food, could make its way into products such as chips, salad dressings and baked goods as soon as the end of this year."
Calyxt's soybean is the first of 23 gene-edited crops the Agriculture Department has recognized to date.... Scientists at Calyxt, a subsidiary of the French pharmaceutical firm Cellectis, developed their soybean by turning "off" the genes responsible for the trans fats in soybean oil. Compared with the conventional version, Calyxt says, oil made from this soybean boasts far more "healthy" fats, and far less of the fats that raise bad cholesterol. Chief executive Federico Tripodi likes to say the product is akin to olive oil but without the pungent flavor that would make it off-putting in Oreos or granola bars.
It has earned praise from the Center for Science in the Public Interest, a consumer group that says public health will benefit from ingredients with less trans and saturated fats, regardless of how they were developed.... Scientists in university labs and at companies such as Calyxt are already designing plants that are more nutritious, convenient and sustainable, they say.... [U]niversities around the country are working on plants that will withstand droughts, diseases and the ravages of climate change. Such improvements, underway in crops as diverse as oranges, wine grapes and cacao, could protect these plants in the future while cutting down water and chemical use, experts say....
While Congress passed a law requiring food makers to disclose genetically modified ingredients in 2016, those rules will probably not apply to foods made with newer gene-editing techniques, said experts who had reviewed it. Calyxt has marketed its soybean oil to food-makers as "non-GMO," citing the fact that it contains no foreign genetic material. But consumers are unlikely to accept this distinction, said Michael Hansen, a senior staff scientist at Consumers Union. Hansen argues that GMOs developed a negative reputation in part because biotech companies botched public outreach in the 1980s and 1990s. Should businesses repeat that mistake, he said, consumers will reject a promising technology.
Non-GM foods are already a multibillion-dollar market, the article points out, adding that according to a 2016 Pew Research Center report, nearly 4 in 10 American consumers believe genetically modified foods are bad for their health.
It has earned praise from the Center for Science in the Public Interest, a consumer group that says public health will benefit from ingredients with less trans and saturated fats, regardless of how they were developed.... Scientists in university labs and at companies such as Calyxt are already designing plants that are more nutritious, convenient and sustainable, they say.... [U]niversities around the country are working on plants that will withstand droughts, diseases and the ravages of climate change. Such improvements, underway in crops as diverse as oranges, wine grapes and cacao, could protect these plants in the future while cutting down water and chemical use, experts say....
While Congress passed a law requiring food makers to disclose genetically modified ingredients in 2016, those rules will probably not apply to foods made with newer gene-editing techniques, said experts who had reviewed it. Calyxt has marketed its soybean oil to food-makers as "non-GMO," citing the fact that it contains no foreign genetic material. But consumers are unlikely to accept this distinction, said Michael Hansen, a senior staff scientist at Consumers Union. Hansen argues that GMOs developed a negative reputation in part because biotech companies botched public outreach in the 1980s and 1990s. Should businesses repeat that mistake, he said, consumers will reject a promising technology.
Non-GM foods are already a multibillion-dollar market, the article points out, adding that according to a 2016 Pew Research Center report, nearly 4 in 10 American consumers believe genetically modified foods are bad for their health.
Depends. Will it be cheaper, including any fines and penalties, than doing it right?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
It has earned praise from the Center for Science in the Public Interest, a consumer group that says public health will benefit from ingredients with less trans and saturated fats, regardless of how they were developed
Who else remembers hearing the same spiel about how trans fats were just plain better than other fats? Maybe that kind of talk is more relevant to why customers tend to be skeptical than any specific paranoia over GMO/editing/selective breeding/etc.
Just slap some kind of a GMO label on it and move on. If idiots that believe it's evil or unhealthy want to use something else that's probably less healthy for them, that's on them. The idiocy and fear-mongering will be there regardless, and if companies don't want to put a label on the products, those same people are just likely to take it as proof of a conspiracy or cover-up. Instead, just own up to it being GMO and point out the health and environmental benefits of the product over alternatives. If those crops really are less resource intensive, then price differences will probably decide for most people more than anything else.
While Congress passed a law requiring food makers to disclose genetically modified ingredients in 2016, those rules will probably not apply to foods made with newer gene-editing techniques, said experts who had reviewed it. Calyxt has marketed its soybean oil to food-makers as "non-GMO," citing the fact that it contains no foreign genetic material. But consumers are unlikely to accept this distinction,
Don't worry, if it helps the bottom lines of ag companies and is contrary to what most people want, the Republican Regime will force the FDA to allow it.
And the regime's Twitular Head will be close behind to tell us how great it is. And you all that voted for him believed him when he said he'd drain the swamp.
Gene editing to take bad trans fats out of soy oil sounds like a good thing. But we want it on the label, and we want to be able to decide for ourselves whether we will buy it or eat it.
developed their soybean by turning "off" the genes responsible for the trans fats in soybean oil.
"Trans fats" are caused by hydrogenation; they don't occur naturally.
I feel like we're a lot safer with gene editing these days than we were in the 50's with Atomic Gardens. They were irradiating entire fields to see what happened, sure we still have peppermint today and other popular produce likes certain types of tomatoes because of the 'IRRADIATE ALL THE THINGS' movement. Though if something mutated in a negative way like an undesirable weed among the crops then we'd be in a bit of a pickle.
We're not going to be able to feed the planet if we don't embrace GMO, we just need more some more focus and care.
GMO is not in itself a bad thing or unhealthy in it self in anyway, it can be quite the opposite. It's the dodgy GMO that should be targeted and shunned, none of this Roundup Ready type garbage so we can drench acres in toxic chemicals bullshit. Focus on less inputs (fertilizers and control chemicals) and maximize yield would be an ideal direction IMO.
Or how about modifying pest weeds to make them spread less and grow smaller or not reproduce at all?
Blanket labeling GMO may not be the right direction, we could in theory make a GMO "organic" plant that requires no inputs. Would this wonder plant have to be binned next to the pesticide soaked produce at the grocery store because it's GMO?
A lot of consumers know nothing about these techniques and won't appreciate the subtleties of them. They are convinced organic food is healthier and no amount of facts or science will change that. They think every piece of produce should be heirloom and grown by a small farming family on an idyllic farm of rolling green hills and happy farmers. They have a completely distorted view of where their food comes from and how 7 billion mouths are fed. You can't fix it because these positions are emotionally justified and not rational. Attacking such an emotional position with facts makes people double down.
Better to just label it made with genetic engineering (because it was) and those labels have had a pretty positive impact. Most folks don't see them or don't actually care. Those that do can live in their fantasy.
An EU court has already ruled that things made with CRISPR must follow the same guidelines as GMOs. Short form -- No GMOs in EU
Perhaps, since an EU member has money in the game, this will be reviewed
Good Science demands proper verification through peer review and testing for safety and efficacy, that stance is not anti-science as the shills suggest. The pharmaceutical industry manages this, there is no good reason GMO should avoid this burden of proof. GMO offer great potential, but a disaster such thalidomide, DDT, asbestos could set progress back decades.
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Seriously, Oreo are candy, and granola bars are a mixture of cereal and sugar i.e. like bread and candy. It's pretty ridiculous to worry about whatever minute oil content there may be in there.
Want to eat healthy? Don't eat children's food! That's all.
could be we are unable to make stuff out of soy beans at home?
Yes, gene edited crops will follow Murphy’s law.
You can keep your LGBTQIAS2N2ZOMGWTFBBQROTFLCOPTER-fats and feed them to your LGBTQIAS2N2ZOMGWTFBBQROTFLCOPTER-friends but leave me out of it.
DDT wasn't really a disaster. It dropped malaria to zero for long enough to get rid of it in many of the places it was used, and the mosquitoes had become resistant so they stopped. No one actually cared about the condors.
I want cold hardy avacados and mangoes.
refactor the law, its bloated, confusing and unmaintainable.
The media has spread the great on gene editing, without informing themselves first.
But can we change them? Fear binds the readers, it brings them money.
By making soy the GMO champion the left will go from anti-GMO to pro-GMO.
Can't make this shit up when reality surpasses memes.
The general public is not going to buy into any artificial distinction between GMO and gene-edited, any more than the tech community was able to sell that "hacker/cracker" distinction. The best strategy would be to openly apply genetic engineering to totally new foods, rather than having it just be a convenience for farmers.
This approach is already working for the Impossible Burger. It's not vegan because it's GMO, but foodies and vegetarians don't care.
Aug. 6, Juche 107 (2018) Monday
Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un Inspects Samchon Catfish Farm
Kim Jong Un, chairman of the Workers' Party of Korea, chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the DPRK and supreme commander of the Korean People's Army, inspected the Samchon Catfish Farm together with Ri Sol Ju.
Going round the room for education in the revolutionary history, the room dedicated to the history of the farm, the sci-tech learning space, the general control room, open-air fishponds, the breeding catfish block and other various places of the farm, Supreme Leader of the Party, state and army Kim Jong Un learned in detail about the production there.
Enjoying the front view of the farm building, he said with great satisfaction that the splendidly and tidily tiled outer walls, which had been painted before, look cleaner and nicer, adding it is a very spectacular and perfect farm flawless in production environment and architectural aesthetic aspects.
He highly praised the officials and employees of the farm for further sprucing up it and overfulfilling the plan for producing 3 000 tons of catfish a year set by the Party.
The farm, which used to turn out 300 tons of catfish on an annual average, produced 3 001 tons last year after its rebuilding on an expansion basis, he noted, adding this means that the farm has produced in just one year what it had to produce in more than 10 years. He said with great satisfaction that it is possible to supply servicepersons with 10 times more fish than before and that the renovation of the farm has taken effect and it is a farm whose modernization has paid off.
Stressing the need for the farm to become an engine leading the fish farming field of the country and a pioneer, educator and pedigree farm for the dissemination of ultra-modern fish farming technology, he set forth the tasks and ways for it.
He gave valuable teachings concerning the management and operation of the farm and the fish farming field, including the issue of keeping researches to meet the goal of shortening the catfish production cycle and lowering the feed unit to the worldwide level.
Watching stacks of frozen catfish at a freezing warehouse, he said they looked like the piled gold ingots, repeatedly praising the farm as an asset farm. He called on the farm to greet the 70th anniversary of the founding of the Republic with proud labor achievements.
He said that the Party is fully relieved as the Samchon Fish Farm is taken charge of by the People's Army, asking the farm to over-fulfill the catfish production plan without fail this year, too, and thus fully display the soldier spirit, stamina and traits.
He was accompanied by Choe Ryong Hae, Hwang Pyong So, Jo Yong Won, O Il Jong, Kim Yong Su and Kim Chang Son.
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Given their track record that isn't exactly known for its eco- or consumer-friendlyness.
We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
It isn't about 'botching', it's about the quality of the food, and GMOs are infinitely sub par. With the level of health consciousness we have today, if they end up anywhere, it'll be in commodotized food, and an awful lot of us have stopped eating that crap altogether. This is yet another ignorant millennial pipe dream, no different than thinking all you need to eat is Soylent. Your parents did not do you favors by doing you so many favors.
Depends. Will it be cheaper, including any fines and penalties, than doing it right?
Really nothing to do with that. It's whether the term "gene edited" will be as aesthetically displeasing as "GMO" has become to consumers. I don't see consumers making a distinction between the two. For one, the antipathy to GMO products was never based on science in the first place. Tests to prove safety or increased benefits really won't change consumers' minds. Neither will "outreach". Not when there is an industry based on fear of GMOs that can and will respond to protect its market share.
For another, sophistry and branding aside, the terms "gene edited" and "genetically modified" are identical. Shotgun insertion of a new gene is an edit. Removing a gene via a CRISPR technique is a modification. Yes, the techniques are vastly different, but the terms are not. If they can't come up with a term that clearly differentiates the techniques for consumers, why expect the consumers will do the heavy lifting of figuring out the difference?
Meanwhile, Europe has already decided that "gene edited" is a subset of GMO, thus effectively banning those foods from the European market.
Strike one.
Many years ago a friend told me to watch nutritionist's position on coffee. It seems to switch from good to bad to good again at least one cycle per year. Do I want non trans fat coffee whitener, or the other spread?
Avoid food coming from USA.
I get shouted down by too many people when I say this so I'm posting it anonymously.. but just like everything else, GMO food crops are rushed to market without adequate time to see how they actually affect living beings that eat them or how they affect the rest of Earth's environment, so we're just as likely to create our own extinction-level event as we are to benefit ourselves and have zero consequences. Of course I'm not anywhere near as upset about this as I used to be because this stuff is already out in the wild, literally blowing in the wind, and being cross-polinated into just about everything, so the wheels are already in motion, nothing can stop it now, so if our reach does truly exceed our grasp and greed has undone us, it's far too late to stop it, and I have the resignation of the doomed. Maybe not in what's left of my lifetime, but in the next, say, 50 years, we might see if I'm unfortunately right, and we've wrecked ourselves. Believe you me, I hope I am wrong, because as much as I hate so many things our species has done to itself and the only planet we can live on, I do not hate my species as a whole and would hope for it to survive long enough to mature out of the bullshit it perpetrates upon itself. But damnit, we, as a species, sure as fuck do seem to be trying to off ourselves.
Organic pesticides are amazingly toxic do not comply with 1950's era environmental regulations, much less current ones. Further, being very broad spectrum killers, they are much more dangrous to the ecosystem and the people eating the food. They're also less effective; target species have had millenia to adapt, and consequently organig farming requires much more pesticide.
Why didn't the article mention CRISPR? This gene technology is not reversible. It would be far better to manipulate the RNA and mRNA what used to be called JUNK DNA by the geniuses.
The food industry successfully managed the introduction of weight-loss & erectile-dysfunction drugs into the food supply...
Just because a company can synthesize a food, it doesn't mean that it will work well with us. The food we usually eat, we have been eating for quite some years, but with the introduction of a new food, a latent problem could wipe out a great deal of the human population.
I think that all GM modified foods should have to go through the same FDA approval process as drugs. If one rouge prion/protein makes it way through, so many people will have a horrible death that the creator's insurer would afford.
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There are very narrow conditions where the government can force someone, or a company, to print something on a label. It's called compelled speech, and courts take a dim view of it, even in the more tightly regulated commercial speech arena.
You can say that you need an ingredients list on the label for food allergies. You can say nutritional information is required for health reasons. What is the exact reason for putting GMO/non-GMO labeling on food? Is there a scientifically acknowledged health concern? No? Then it's not going to hold up in court. Sure, you can parade a bunch of scientists who don't like GMOs for one reason or another, but they can't point to research that says it's inherently dangerous or unhealthy, and that's going to get the law shot down in court (most likely.)
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Its an interesting idea and it might be true but the evidence isn't in. Tedx isn't ted its just whoever wants to talk. In this case it is better than most, he is actually a PhD in charge of a research organization, but his research is based at least in part on falsified results.
https://www.the-scientist.com/...
refactor the law, its bloated, confusing and unmaintainable.
While Congress passed a law requiring food makers to disclose genetically modified ingredients in 2016, those rules will probably not apply to foods made with newer gene-editing techniques, said experts who had reviewed it.
From the DOA standard
"The amended Act defines “bioengineering” with respect to a food, as referring to a food “(A) that contains genetic material that has been modified through in vitro recombinant deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) techniques; and (B) for which the modification could not otherwise be obtained through conventional breeding or found in nature."
So the interesting part is "could not". Evidently Calyxt is claiming that their edits could have resulted naturally.
global warming means we're going to have to do something to maintain crop yields. Period. Like it or not GMOs are happening.
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As long as an MSDS is available and a hazmat warning is added, sure!
The problem is, what needs to be labeled?
Selective breeding (something humans have been doing as long as recorded history) is just as much gene editing as CRISPR editing - the only real difference is how long it takes and how much control you have.