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NVIDIA Unveils Next-Gen Turing Quadro RTX Professional Graphics Cards (hothardware.com)

MojoKid shares a report from Hot Hardware: We been hearing a lot about NVIDA's next-generation GPU architecture since late last year, and today NVIDIA is announcing the first products based on Turing. NVIDIA is targeting the professional graphics market first with its new Quadro RTX 8000, RTX 6000 and RTX 5000 GPUs. Turing GPU architecture replaces Pascal, which has served both the consumer and professional markets since 2016. But as its 8th generation GPU architecture, NVIDIA is ushering in a number of advances with Turing and it's billed as the "world's first ray-tracing GPU." When it comes to content creators, NVIDIA claims that with the power of Turing, "applications can simulate the physical world at 6x the speed of the previous Pascal generation."

Getting down to brass tacks, the entry-level Quadro RTX 5000 has 3,072 CUDA cores, 384 Tensor cores, and will come with 16GB of 14Gbps GDDR6 memory. Its ray-tracing performance is dialed in at 6 GigaRays/sec, according to NVIDIA. Both the Quadro RTX 6000 and RTX 8000 have 4,608 CUDA cores and 576 Tensor cores; the only difference between the two is that the former has 24GB of GDDR6, while the latter doubles that to 48GB. Ray-tracing performance for both of these GPUs tops out at 10 GigaRays/sec. NVIDIA is also claiming up to 16TFLOPs compute performance for the Quadro RTX 8000. NVIDIA's new Quadro GPUs will also be among the first to support both USB-C and VirtualLink for next-generation virtual reality and mixed reality headsets. Other VirtualLink backers include AMD, Oculus, Microsoft and Valve. The Quadro RTX 5000, RTX 6000 and RTX 8000 will all be available during the fourth quarter of 2018 priced at $2,300, $6,300 and $10,000 respectively.

56 comments

  1. math is hard by psergiu · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... the former has 24GB of GDDR6, while the latter doubles that to 96GB ...

    24 * 2 = ?

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    1. Re:math is hard by psergiu · · Score: 1

      Yes, the /. summary is taken straight from the TFA.
      So Brandon Hill, MojoKid and BeauHD - please pay a bit more attention.

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    2. Re:math is hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hothardware, say not more. The amusing part is they are always behind yet can't even properly copy other peoples published specs. it is 48GB not 96.

    3. Re:math is hard by lorinc · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, that gives you an idea of how this card generation got its performances boost.

    4. Re:math is hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah it looks like when they wrote their content they were reading other peoples articles to copy from as others were discussing dual cards for 96GB of shared memory with NVLink.

    5. Re:math is hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't this the guy who wrote this article?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGEeLtqtNvU

    6. Re:math is hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because of few of them who are oversmart move to US to help its economy keep moving. They welcome genius from every country - this is the thing keeping USA on track. I wish India could do that.(I am Indian)

    7. Re:math is hard by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Maybe they were using common core maths.

    8. Re:math is hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      24 * 2 = ?

      24 * 2 = 96 on the new Nvidia chips. It's an homage to the Intel FDIV bug.

    9. Re: math is hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These new cards are so powerful when they multiply by two you actually get back double!

    10. Re:math is hard by fibonacci8 · · Score: 1

      ... the former has 24GB of GDDR6, while the latter doubles that to 96GB ...

      24 * 2 = ?

      I'm guessing it's more like Wayside School math. GDDR6 is the latter for some odd reason, so GDDR6 * 2 = 96GB.

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    11. Re:math is hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm, all for the price of 1-2 bitcoin shareprice dollars!!
      I can't afford to pay the full price in US dollars until I win the lottery.

    12. Re:math is hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's because companies are forced to hire Negroes and other unqualified individuals as part of social engineering experiments dreamed up by SJWs, who they they themselves are unqualified. The blind leading the blind. Negroes are the dead weight that the rest of society has to carry on its back.

      Judging by your last two presidents, it's not the blacks that you should be blaming, its the oranges.

    13. Re:math is hard by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      And here I am, out of mod points.

      Virtual +1 Funny to you, sir.

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    14. Re:math is hard by tonique · · Score: 1

      I'd think multiplying by four is easy for Quadro cards.

    15. Re: math is hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's got to be that turbo boost. Is there a modifier I can install of the name "solutions shouldn't be rushed"?

    16. Re:math is hard by juancn · · Score: 1

      It actually has 48GB but you can link two through NVLink for a total of 96GB

    17. Re:math is hard by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      That's right up there with the names of video standards:
      240p - SD
      480p - SD
      720p - HD
      1080p - Full HD ( *should* technically be "2k" referring to the total amount of horizontal pixels - 1920px. )
      2160p - 4K Ultra HD
      4320p - 8k Ultra HD

      Nevermind the fact that the human eye with 20/20 vision couldn't differentiate the pixels of a 65" 1080p TV from 10 feet away, but I digress.

    18. Re:math is hard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because of few of them who are oversmart move to US to help its economy keep moving. They welcome genius from every country - this is the thing keeping USA on track. I wish India could do that.(I am Indian)

      That's because in spite of issues the USA is still a more attractive place to live than India for most smart people.

    19. Re:math is hard by MojoKid · · Score: 1

      That was a typo obviously, and associated with the NVLink scaling with two GPUs for a total of 96GB or 2x48.

    20. Re:math is hard by MojoKid · · Score: 1

      That was a typo obviously, and related to NVLink scaling across Quadro RTX 8000 GPUs. Thanks for the kinds words though. Competitor perhaps, AC?

    21. Re:math is hard by MojoKid · · Score: 1

      Hence, the error and typo. Correct and thank you.

    22. Re:math is hard by MojoKid · · Score: 1

      Hothardware, say not more. The amusing part is they are always behind yet can't even properly copy other peoples published specs. it is 48GB not 96.

      Side note: "say not more" ... Grammar and spelling - like gravity, such a bitch.

  2. Math by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the only difference between the two is that the former has 24GB of GDDR6, while the latter doubles that to 96GB.

    Mind running that math again?

  3. 2x24=96 by gravewax · · Score: 1

    "The only difference between the two is that the former has 24GB of GDDR6, while the latter doubles that to 96GB. "

    So does someone need a typing or a maths class?

  4. 24*2*2=96 problem solved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was easy...

  5. Seems like a lot of compute for the money by Cesare+Ferrari · · Score: 1

    If only I had an application that would be tractable on this sort of hardware. The ray tracing side of things is boring to me, i'd be interested to know how this works out for large matrix operations, or signal processing type applications. Still, more is more when it comes to compute!

    1. Re:Seems like a lot of compute for the money by sg_oneill · · Score: 3, Interesting

      big marix math is something CUDA does well on account of being able to parallelize large amounts of simple operations which is ultimately hosw matrices work , just stepwise working through the steps.

      https://www.quantstart.com/art...

      As for signal processing in general, mostly is a pretty great use, however if its real time audio, there has been traditionally issues with latency shifting blocks in and out of GPU ram. Video for whatever reason is a bit better because the discrete timing between frames are large enough that latency isn't a problem, but audio is continuous so a degree of extra buffering needs to happen. But if I was calculating messy convolutions, or something that might make the CPU sweat, the GPU would still be my first port of call

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  6. Professional graphic cards - How much better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are the so-called 'professional graphic cards' really so much better than the non-professional graphic cards?

    1. Re:Professional graphic cards - How much better? by jszpilewski · · Score: 1

      The professional cards are used for a different workflow where stability and visual fidelity matter the most and it involves certification of hardware and drivers for compatibility with various CAD and healthcare applications. This is principally the reason for high prices. Usually they cannot match the FPS scores of non-professional cards from the same generation as the latter ones are used primarily for fragging and in this case they focus on squeezing out every bit of performance while being more relaxed on stability concerns.

    2. Re:Professional graphic cards - How much better? by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      The cards themselves aren't that much different or better. Typically, they have more memory (possibly ECC as well) than your run of the mill gaming card and NVidia might include tensor cores or other specialized hardware in some of these high-end lines, but otherwise it's the same design as their consumer cards. What you're really paying for is the professional drivers. Basically you pay extra to get a lot of optimizations for your CAD program as well as certification that it will produce reliable results in those applications.

    3. Re: Professional graphic cards - How much better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes- my non-professional graphics card often comes in to work late, or drunk, and can frequently be heard making inappropriate comments. Never have those problems with my professional graphics card.

    4. Re: Professional graphic cards - How much better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No there are no better, but I spend 10K on them anyway for bragging rights.

    5. Re:Professional graphic cards - How much better? by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      Yes. You run a week long simulation only to find an error caused by unstable hardware.

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    6. Re: Professional graphic cards - How much better? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Ah, I see your mistake here. I bet you've been buying the latest, younger cards instead of the older, more mature ones. My GTX 650 has always been quiet, on time and never gave me any trouble.

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    7. Re:Professional graphic cards - How much better? by Ed+Avis · · Score: 1

      The pro cards (Quadro, and also some NVS cards) nowadays come with four DisplayPort outputs. The consumer cards tend to have one DisplayPort and a mishmash of HDMI and DVI. That is annoying, since there are converters from DisplayPort to both of these but not the other way round. The GeForce cards also tend to be dual-slot, power-hungry monsters while the lower-end Quadro cards fit in a single slot and don't need auxiliary power.

      So I think there are reasons to prefer the Quadro line, apart from the question of "certification" (which does look like like a bit of a racket).

      In principle you can license and build a GeForce card with four DisplayPort connectors, but they are very hard to find. The best I was able to buy was a GeForce 1060 with dual DisplayPorts.

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    8. Re:Professional graphic cards - How much better? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Triple Displayport did get common on gaming cards, real common I think. The HDMI can be used as is or converted to VGA. DVI if still there, it sucks but if your monitor is dual link DVI that's good.
      There may be a trend of dual HDMI because one goes to the TV and one goes to VR. That cuts your three Displayports to two. Next they'll put a damn USB-C for VR but it carries Displayport.

      Hmm I looked shit up and some/many cards have their weird layouts. But I also found EVGA, MSI and ASUS with three Displayport on a GTX 1060.
      RX570, RX580, Vega 56 too.

      A mention for the FirePro W4100, it's what you describe and low profile and you overpay but it's a relatively cheap pro.

      The professional driver wasn't very useful even a decade ago for 3D graphics professionals (media creation) so a low end "pro" card seems useful for some CAD mainly.. even then software will run on Intel and/or have a Direct3D renderer. Some software say Intel or AMD graphics are not supported but Geforce is supported. Funny that! Devs may dev against the nvidia proprietary driver. Overall, graphics vendors can't cripple their consumer graphics so it's unstable or really slow, anyway.

  7. now with 10% more evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tensor cores, that's a thing now? Google better not be getting some kind of licensing fee for every single graphics card ever made in the world. Fuck those pricks.

    1. Re:now with 10% more evil by dromgodis · · Score: 1

      I don't believe that Google gets a licensing fee on common math. Yet.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  8. What are these good for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean, I do calculate the neutron flux for various reactors at work, but people like me are a very small minority. What does Joe Idiot Average use these "professionally" for?

    1. Re: What are these good for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Complex CAD like, rendering a 3D model of a fully simulated, working airplane in interactive real-time or rendering out high resolution physically accurate 3D images, etc.

    2. Re:What are these good for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any production house that renders out images for whatever reason. A 2x speed up is worth investment. It is does get 6x then that card is a bargain.

    3. Re:What are these good for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gaming card will carry out your generic computations for cheaper though. If you don't do oil&gas, CAD etc. nor use some special features like virtualization support, what you mainly get with these "pro" cards is the larger memory capacity.

  9. It Figures... by pipingguy · · Score: 1

    Crap, I just bought a P4000.

    1. Re:It Figures... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Similar thing here, damnit. I just bought the Bates 4000!

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  10. 96GB is 48GB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Note that if you do RTFA, it's still badly explained, wrongly written but you get 48GB on the top end Quadro (not in the article : it's up from the older 24GB on GDDR5, because GDDR6 is available with twice the density)
    If you have two Quadro RTX 8000 linked with a bridge, you get a real and genuine 96GB memory space in the same way it happens on modern dual CPU systems. Coherent, seamless but bandwidth is much slower if you go over the border of course. This feature was already available on Quadro GP100 (Pascal with fast double precision floating point ; 16GB HBM2 on each of two cards, combined 32GB)
    It is a NUMA system, much like Opteron and dual Xeon E5 before.

    Accessorily the article says the bridge feature (NVLink) is available on all three new boards, so two RTX 5000 is 16GB + 16GB, two RTX 6000 is 24GB + 24GB.

    On the picture with the boss showing two artistic (stylized, unrealistic) representations of Pascal GP102 vs Turing, it's written : 24GB for the GP102, 48GB + 48GB for the large Turing.
    (GP102 is using on GTX 1080 Ti with 11GB GDDR5X RAM, on Titan Xp with 12GB RAM, on Quadro P6000 with 24GB RAM)

  11. This will reignite the crypto miners by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Expect all of these cards to be out of stock world wide as miners start buying them.

    1. Re:This will reignite the crypto miners by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      at 10k a card for the top end and 6k for the mid range I doubt it. specialist cards like these are unlikely to be profitable for any mining, especially with the crypto currency collapse.

  12. Sounds really really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    gay.

  13. We been? by SinGunner · · Score: 1

    Couldn't make it TWO WORDS without a grammatical mistake? Literally the minimum necessary number of words for such a mistake. That's damn impressive.

  14. Hard Decision by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Should I buy a small car or a graphics card?

  15. But does it mine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many DOGE can I mine with this thing?