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Apple Pulls iOS 12 Beta 7 Update Due To Performance Issues (macrumors.com)

Posted by msmash on from the oops dept.

Apple has quietly pulled iOS 12 Beta 7 software, aimed at developers and enthusiasts, less than a day after rolling it out. Even as the company has not offered an explanation -- or an acknowledgement -- according to users, performance issues might be the reason. MacRumors: On the MacRumors forums, there are multiple reports of problems when tapping on an icon, which can result in a very noticeable pause before the app launches. As MacRumors reader OldSchoolMacGuy explains: "I'm seeing apps take 10 seconds or more to launch on my X. Restarted and still seeing the same issue." Some users have said that the pausing issue disappeared for them after five or 10 minutes of using the iPhone, while others appear to be having continual problems. Prior to when Apple pulled the update, several MacRumors readers had warned other users against installing the update on their iPhones.

44 comments

  1. This is an outrage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    All I want, the one goddamn thing, is to be able to face time with 31 other apple users. Also I need to be able to superimpose animoji over my face so no one can see it. The only two goddamn things I want are 32 person facetime chat and animoji over my face. Also I need it to mask my voice.

  2. Pretty sad at beta 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When you reach beta 7 and you have to pull it that's pretty sad and makes me not want embrace the IOS 12 release right away. I was hoping IOS 12 would be a release that fixes a lot of what was wrong with IOS 11.

    1. Re:Pretty sad at beta 7 by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's a beta. Bugs happen in beta. The whole reason why they have a beta is to find bugs. You should be glad that they were willing to pull a late-stage beta for bugfixing because it means their system works. It found a bug that they presumably couldn't catch with their more limited internal tests. How? I don't know. But it doesn't matter.

      I'm running PB5 and most things are good. I'm still filing bugs because software is never perfect, but this is barely news. Let me know when they pull an official release of iOS 12 (or worse, DON'T pull an official release of iOS 12) because a major bug like this is found.

    2. Re:Pretty sad at beta 7 by dysmal · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Newer iOS versions aren't about fixing issues from previous versions. They're about more emoji's, tighter integration with their music services, and trashing the performance on older devices.

      The reality is, Apple doesn't give a flying fuck about what's broken and anyone who hasn't bought the latest iThingy. Their solution to everything is forcing people to buy a newer iThingy so they can throw more horsepower at it (after shitting on their battery life) rather than actually address the underlying performance issues.

    3. Re:Pretty sad at beta 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At the _seventh_ beta though? This is the kind of thing you'd expect in the first iteration of a codebase hitting the wild for the first time. You're telling us it's not worrisome that performance went down from beta 6 to 7 yet somehow it passed QA?

    4. Re:Pretty sad at beta 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of the key points of iOS 12 is making it faster on older hardware than iOS 11

    5. Re:Pretty sad at beta 7 by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      It's true that it's a beta but it's pretty rare they pull a beta after release, I think it's only happened a handful of times... something really bad must have slipped in. But better than final release!

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    6. Re: Pretty sad at beta 7 by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2, Informative

      The fact that they pulled a beta for performance issues seems to counter your argument that Apple doesn't care. If they didn't care, they would have kept the beta out there.

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    7. Re:Pretty sad at beta 7 by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      I remember Tim Cook saying (after iOS 11 release, one of the buggy disaster since Apple Maps), roughly, "you want all these bugs fixed... we heard you! the next iOS will focus on that mainly, less on new features". This is not a good start...

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    8. Re:Pretty sad at beta 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every release they do several betas. Then they release the production code and alarms are broken again (whether they are broken due to daylight savings time change or due to January 1st or whatever is randomized in their process).

    9. Re:Pretty sad at beta 7 by Merk42 · · Score: 1

      Well they pulled a new feature, so I guess that's a step in the right direction!

    10. Re:Pretty sad at beta 7 by joh · · Score: 1

      Your reality obviously is not the reality iOS 12 runs in. If you try the public betas on older hardware you will find that it runs much faster than iOS 11. This at least is my experience. On which device(s) do you run iOS 12?

    11. Re: Pretty sad at beta 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      apple just could not think of a good enough spin to blame their users on the issues.

    12. Re:Pretty sad at beta 7 by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Well they pulled a new feature, so I guess that's a step in the right direction!

      Not sure about that. That sounds more like a desperate move to remove a feature that will never be ready for the September "event". Not really reassuring, the guys made plans to integrate the feature, and a month before public release they give up the whole thing. Looks like nobody seriously controls the developments anymore [and yes the Jobs effect is completely fading away].

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    13. Re:Pretty sad at beta 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The most likely scenario is that a developer introduced a bug in the last round of development between b6 and b7. When something like this happens, Apple has two choices, release an updated beta, b6A or something to that effect or pull the beta. Seeing how they pulled the beta, this tell you that they weren't able to fix the issue fast enough to get a new build out.

    14. Re: Pretty sad at beta 7 by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      It's a beta. How would they blame that on the users? One of fhe few times that a software company can release buggy software is with alpha and beta releases.

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    15. Re:Pretty sad at beta 7 by jimbo · · Score: 1

      iOS 12 loads apps about twice as fast on a five year old iPhone 5s, completely breathing new life into this device. This is measurable and independently documented online.

    16. Re:Pretty sad at beta 7 by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 1

      Introducing regressions is, unfortunately, something that happens in software. It's easier than you think, and harder to catch than you'd expect. Sometimes it's the confluence of several things that didn't interact in a way that was expected.

      It's very likely that it passed all of Apple's internal tests for performance, but once it went out into the wild and ran into apps that haven't been updated for iOS 12 (which is nearly 100% of them, on a developer device, and literally 100% of non-Apple apps on a public beta device) there were some unexpected issues.

      Again, the whole reason why Apple has a public beta is because the number of phone setups in the wild is significantly larger than anything they could reasonably test in-house. This is the process working as intended: a release was made, there were issues when it was installed on developer devices, the updates were pulled down and someone (probably several someones) is trying to get to the bottom of it.

      Once projects get this big and complicated, all you can do is your best and then rely on the process to catch your mistakes and let you correct them.

    17. Re: Pretty sad at beta 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What, so they took out all the throttling? What's going to make everyone buy a new model? Don't expect this to last long.

    18. Re: Pretty sad at beta 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly this. apple didn't sudden realise how to write good software. They removed some of the sandbags they have thrown in their code over the years.

    19. Re: Pretty sad at beta 7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that if you can't get the Icon click to launch a program after 12 versions of the OS, them something is very wrong with Apple.

      Realy....what could have possibly needed rework in that area of the UX after all tis time?

      (Sound's like iOS is written poorly to me)

    20. Re:Pretty sad at beta 7 by antdude · · Score: 1

      But it's beta 7. It is getting close to the final release to the public. Unless Apple wants to delay its release date.

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  3. millions of j public made websites... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    chugging along until the advent of being taken hostage by search engines payperclick AD scams.. phewww..

  4. Awesome apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you suck at software.

  5. When QA fails. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ladies, if software can be pulled for "performance issues", so can one's SO.

  6. Doesn't look good. by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Since a couple iOS back, the UI deteriorates each time a little more. Unlocking the phone (fingerprint) while looking at the timer makes the iPhone go to several states before showing a stable screen. Sometimes, the icons get redrawn (like some older Windows). The other day, after using Music a while, playing a song and switching quickly to another one made the interface stay on the previous title. Not mentioning the various bugs that are never fixed, every year the UI is losing something.

    This doesn't look good, because those are not bugs that seem easy to fix. That sounds more like deep bugs, maybe some race conditions also, that show the Apple team has lost it, either because they're not motivated, or because the most competent ones abandoned the ship.

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    1. Re:Doesn't look good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The last properly working IOS was IOS 8. The last properly working OSX was 10.6.8...

    2. Re:Doesn't look good. by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      The last properly working IOS was IOS 8

      iOS 8 included Apple Maps...

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    3. Re: Doesn't look good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be a one of those antifa people
      I keep hearing about. Anything you don't agree with is automatically a troll.

    4. Re:Doesn't look good. by Jerry · · Score: 1

      Not good indeed!
      I have an iPhone 6+ with iOS 11.4 installed.
      My battery health says "Maximum Capacity 78%" and "Your battery is currently supporting normal peak performance".

      When I open an app sometimes the interface will blink wildly as if someone was punching controls randomly and repeatedly.
      On occasions, while residing in my pocket with no app running, the phone will get hot and when I look at the battery percentage it is dropping at about 10% per minute. Just today it dropped from 97% to 63% in five minutes while I was looking at the Storm Radar map connecting via cellphone tower.

      I've taken to powering it down when those misbehaviors occur, waiting a minute or two, and then turning it back on.
      Prior versions of iOS never behaved as poorly as 11.4 has.
      I've become suspicious that 11.4 was designed to remove trust in older iPhones and convince folks to "upgrade" to the iPhone 10 and wonder if installing 12 would be a good idea. Regardless, IF I have to upgrade it will be to a Samsung iPhone. I'm done with Apple's poor products and anti-1A stance.

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    5. Re: Doesn't look good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moron.

    6. Re: Doesn't look good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be a one of those antifa people I keep hearing about. Anything you don't agree with is automatically a troll.

      You must be troll - or really stupid. Because obviously everybody the Antifa don't agree with is automatically a Fascist. And since you are either an anti-Antifa troll, or really dumb, you are probably a Fascist.

  7. That IS news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A large platform pulling a software update because it's too slow? And not blaming it on the hardware or the operator?

    Someone must have accidentally let an end-user into the decision making room.

  8. It's called a "beta" for reasons... by joh · · Score: 1

    Apart from this version: I'm running the iOS 12 public beta on my old iPad mini 3 and it runs considerably faster than iOS 11.

    1. Re:It's called a "beta" for reasons... by Iwastheone · · Score: 1

      I'm running the latest version of Apple, having many issues. Not going to switch from Android to Apple though. Help!

  9. You talk... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...like a god damned faggot.

  10. How different firms are viewed with beta bugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    one is criticized for pulling back a beta

    one ignores it until after release and people complain

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/08/google-pixel-xl-users-say-android-9-pie-causes-quick-charging-problems/

    I prefer the first approach - although no one gets this right all the time

    1. Re:How different firms are viewed with beta bugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair, most people complain of the company being opaque or non-response about big issues. Google gets roasted on the same thing, beta or not.

  11. Ob by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    It just about works!

    Seriously, does nobody test their shit before releasing it these days?

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    1. Re:Ob by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Someone ought to invent a "beta testing" phase to iron out the bugs before the official release. Oh wait.

    2. Re:Ob by antdude · · Score: 1

      Companies don't care about QA anymore. :(

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  12. Meh.... Beta Software Pulled because of bugs by Wild_dog! · · Score: 1

    Situation Normal.
    Seems like this is what Beta Software is for.
    To work out the kinks.