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China's 'First Fully Homegrown' Web Browser, Used By Key Government Bodies, Under Fire For 'Heavily' Copying Google Chrome Files (ft.com)

Redcore, a Chinese start-up that claims to have produced a homegrown browser used by key government bodies and state-run companies, has come under fire after users discovered its software was heavily based on Google's Chrome browser [Editor's note: the link may be paywalled; alternative source]. From a report: The company, which says it has created "innovative and world-leading" browser technology, came under scrutiny on Thursday when users looked through the browser's installation directory and discovered an original "chrome.exe" file along with image files of the Chrome logo. "We have launched the world's only purely China-owned browser Redcore, to break the US monopoly," the company said in a statement on Wednesday. The Financial Times verified Chinese users' findings and found with its own examination that Redcore was using components from the v. 49 version of Google Chrome. "Redcore has Chrome [elements] in it," said company founder Gao Jing in response to fierce public criticism. "But this is not plagiarism; rather, we are standing on the shoulders of a giant for our own innovation," she added, according to local media reports. Ms Gao was also quoted as saying that the company had so far been doing very well in terms of customer satisfaction.

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  1. It's Chromium, not Chrome. by richy+freeway · · Score: 2, Informative

    Any danger of getting even the basic facts right?

    1. Re:It's Chromium, not Chrome. by omnichad · · Score: 3, Informative

      There are screenshots of the installation directory showing trademarked chrome icons and a chrome.exe executable.
      https://shanghai.ist/2018/08/1...

    2. Re:It's Chromium, not Chrome. by omnichad · · Score: 4, Informative

      For the shell. Looking deeper in the installation directory, you find Chrome icons and chrome executables:
      https://shanghai.ist/2018/08/1...

      And if the directory names are anything to go by, it's a 2 years out of date version of Chrome at that.

  2. No True Scotsman by sjbe · · Score: 4, Informative

    True innovation is coming up with something that doesn't exist, isn't even an idea, and making it happen.

    Ahh the no true Scotsman fallacy.

    Improvement looks at what everyone else is doing and tries something different, while "standing on the shoulders of the giant". No original thought.

    So you are saying Issac Newton didn't have an original thought. Might want to go back and revisit that line of logic. NOBODY has ideas that don't build on the work of others. If you think you are the only person to have an idea then you are delusional. If your standard for "true innovation" is a thought or product nobody else had considered previously then there is no such thing as "true innovation". Your argument is complete nonsense.

    The reasons any tech is in China is for cheap labor and loose environmental standards

    There are a LOT of reasons why a lot of electronics and other tech are made in China. You mentioned two factors but they aren't the only ones nor the most important ones in a lot of cases.

    I've worked in tech and with the Chinese. We had to QC all of their work.

    I've been to China, worked in global sourcing, and source products from there daily in my day job most of which are just fine. China produces massive amounts of high quality good and services. Yes there is some junk too but your sweeping claims about the quality of work from China is demonstrably false. Sounds like your company hired the wrong people or didn't have the experience to manage them properly. Happens to a lot of companies. Doesn't mean that everything from China is shit.