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DNC Says Reported Hack Attempt Was a False Alarm (wsj.com)

furry_wookie writes: A suspected attempt to hack into the Democratic National Committee's voter database was actually a cybersecurity test [Editor's note: the originally submitted article might be paywalled; an alternative source], the organization said. The DNC, which was [allegedly] hacked by Russian intelligence officers during the 2016 presidential campaign, said Tuesday it had contacted the Federal Bureau of Investigation after being alerted to an apparent phishing scheme by the computer security firm Lookout Inc., which uncovered a replica of the login page to the DNC's Votebuilder database during an online scan. In a statement early Wednesday, Bob Lord, the DNC's chief information security officer, said the DNC and its partners who reported the site 'now believe it was built by a third party as part of a simulated phishing test.'

115 comments

  1. Russians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The russians are clearly playing a desensitization game. They create one false alarm after another. It is quite humourous if you think about it. Once everyone has let their guard down, then russians attack. And only then.

    1. Re:Russians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're just mad we named their APT "Fancy Bear".

    2. Re:Russians by anegg · · Score: 5, Informative

      In what way did this event involve the Russians? I don't have any problem believing the Russians are bad actors. Their whole "pretend we are doing nothing and that it is sad how everything thinks we are bad guys" while they are busy playing every dirty trick in the book is so time-worn that it deserves nothing but raised eyebrows at this point. But...

      The news article that this Slashdot post is about describes how a cybersecurity exercise that involved an external web page (built by a third party involved in the test) had that web page spotted by yet another third party (who then reported it to the DNC) and whereupon it ended up being reported by the DNC as an action by a malicious actor. This can happen when the cybersecurity response function isn't 100% up to date on what the cybersecurity testing function is involved in, unfortunately. But there is no evidence in the report that it is part of a desensitization action on the part of the Russians (in this case), because the Russians didn't create the false alarm.

      You might be able to make a case that the DNC cybersecurity response function was overly sensitive due to previous Russian actions, but properly evaluating threats is something every cybersecurity function has to deal with.

    3. Re:Russians by JackieBrown · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The CNN article on the original submission did a very good job linking this to the Russians while leaving themselves a way to act like they didn't

      https://edition.cnn.com/2018/0...

    4. Re:Russians by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Does "third party" here means a group trying to hack the DNC and then when discovered quickly said "nope, we're just third parties, the good guys, testing your security for freeeeee, honest"?

    5. Re:Russians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did the Russians hack the US elections? No. I know of no voting machine that was hacked. It would also take a good amount of voting machines hacked to steal an election. Did the Russians try to influence the election? Probably along with every other nation, Hollywood celebrity and billionaire. Only mindless drones do not think for themselves and vote for a particular candidate because someone told them too.

      The elections were not hacked.

  2. Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    These guys are pathetic. Absurd incompetence on an epic scale.

    But; 'Give us control.We know how to fix the country.'

    More shit show ahead folks.

    1. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      I wouldn't trust the democratic party to do anything but increase crime and welfare.

    2. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      And I would trust the Mexican billionaire who runs WSJ even less.
      Either side of the same criminal coin.

      If the demonrats win the house, get ready for several years more of this utter FUD.
      And if Trump is impeached, they will just make up crap about Pence instead. They will never stop..
      They love their Fear Porn but normal people will just #walkaway

    3. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They did the right thing, which is to report it.

      The GOP disavows, hides, and stay silent.

    4. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Highly unlikely Trump is impeached and close to 0 chance convicted by the Senate if he is.

      Clinton was acquitted despite actual evidence that he lied under oath (which, despite how much of a butthurt loser you are, is why he was impeached). The only thing Trump's impeachment will be about is the pure hatred the Left harbors for him.

    5. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      They did the right thing, which is to report it.

      The GOP disavows, hides, and stay silent.

      DNC: The sky is falling! The sky is falling and we blocked it with our fancy umbrella. Oops, no. It's just raining.
      AC: They did the right thing reporting it. The other side just tries to hide the important information like this.

      You lefties are a hoot. It's like your brains are wired for 2+2=5.

    6. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't trust the democratic party to do anything but increase crime and welfare.

      Oh yes, because the GOP has done such a wonderful job /s

    7. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Epic! Pathetic!

      I would suggest that this is not any of that hyperbolic nonsense. Its a perfectly normal mistake.

      You want to look at pathetic, look at the national security and intelligence apparatus that can't seem to keep anything secret or seems to provide "Intelligence" that has no basis other than serving the interests of their political bosses. The difference is when they make a mistake, they don't admit it and then double down since no one can call them on it. We spent billions of dollars on a cold war countering what turned out to be the Soviet paper tiger. In part, because our intelligence agencies were counting cardboard cutouts of tanks as real tanks. It wasn't that they couldn't tell the difference, its that no one had any interest in noticing.

      Don't put the DNC in charge of the economy!

      Don't put the RNC in charge of the economy either. In fact, no one has seriously (or even jokingly) suggested either one of those things.

      Our real problem is this is what passes for public debate.

    8. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by arbiter1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If liberals really go down the road using only their hate for him as the justification for his removal then just like Nuclear option they put in place it will turn out to haunt them in the future

    9. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by arbiter1 · · Score: 1

      plus i don't think support in their own party is there to get vote through as sure some of them know its a dangerous road they are gonna travel.

    10. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Things were running pretty well until you clowns took over with your Russia treason bullshit.

      The DNC made a mistake. You would prefer they use the RNC method of just not ever admitting a mistake? Because that's better???? Or are you just a hyper-partisan muppet who looks to whine about anything and everything?

    11. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by arth1 · · Score: 1

      You lefties are a hoot. It's like your brains are wired for 2+2=5.

      That's because we're rational and understand measured quantities and not just countable numbers.

      I walked the dog for 2 miles yesterday, and 2 miles today. We walked a total of 5 miles.

    12. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And still you blindly trusted a known scam-artists, who drove countless businesses and personal projects to bankrupcy, and accumulated more than 1300 civil lawsuits against him in his career, when he said he would "Make America Great Again".

      But of course, instead of trying to explain your choice in a rational fashion, you'll simply downmod this post to -1, which, by the way, is what you always complain about "liberals" doing the same to you.

      Your irrationality and bias are only rivaled by your hypocricy.

    13. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

      I take home more in my pay check then I did under obama. This congress has passed more bills then the previous party did. "he data shows that the House in the 115th Congress passed 321 bills. The next highest of the past five first-term Congresses was the 111th Congress (2009), when 270 bills were passed in the House. But Tauberer offers a caveat.Sep 12, 2017" Go put your Antifa mask on and ask your mommy if you can go out to play.

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    14. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

      Epic! Pathetic! I would suggest that this is not any of that hyperbolic nonsense. Its a perfectly normal mistake. You want to look at pathetic, look at the national security and intelligence apparatus that can't seem to keep anything secret or seems to provide "Intelligence" that has no basis other than serving the interests of their political bosses. The difference is when they make a mistake, they don't admit it and then double down since no one can call them on it. We spent billions of dollars on a cold war countering what turned out to be the Soviet paper tiger. In part, because our intelligence agencies were counting cardboard cutouts of tanks as real tanks. It wasn't that they couldn't tell the difference, its that no one had any interest in noticing. Don't put the DNC in charge of the economy! Don't put the RNC in charge of the economy either. In fact, no one has seriously (or even jokingly) suggested either one of those things. Our real problem is this is what passes for public debate. Wish I had mod points. insightful, truthful, interesting. +1

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    15. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hate ? You want to know something about hate, mister 5,Insighful ?

      Conservatives are so utterly, completely and totally consumed by their hate of liberals that, just like captain Ahab, they were ready to sacrifice their family, their children's future, their country, the entire planet, everything, by electing a known con-man, scammer, crook, sexual predator, child abuser and psychopath to the oval office, just because they knew that would piss-off that damn liberal white-whale.

      You will never find a better example of hate than if you look at yourselves in the mirror, trumptards.

    16. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Train0987 · · Score: 1

      Project much?

    17. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another republican idiot. Just in case you weren't paying attention, Trump payed off two porn stars he fucked (while he was married and with kid) hush money. This is a federal crime; his lawyer is looking at five years of prison for being part of this scheme.

    18. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Train0987 · · Score: 1

      More importantly, lessen the importance, scope and reach of the GOVERNMENT in our lives period. That's the difference between conservative and liberal. Government is the problem, not the solution.

    19. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by No+Longer+an+AC · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure how passing more bills than previous legislatures in and of itself is either good or bad.

      Some have argued that we'd be better off if they stopped passing so many laws and with one party in control of both Houses as well as the Executive Branch it could be interpreted as them just ramming through everything they can think of while the opposition can do little to stop them.

      We see the GOP pushing hard to ram Kavanaugh onto the Supreme Court just as we see the Dems trying hard to hold off confirmation hearings until after the elections. Of course the GOP did that to Merrick Garland for nearly a year so they have no moral standing to blame the Dems for trying it now.

      Maybe it's always been this way, but it seems like our major parties have become much less about compromise and coming together than gaining power and dividing our country.

    20. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The ONLY reason the DNC made this announcement was to stoke the Russian, collusion, and hacking fire. It wasn't ever about transparency or anything other than political purposes.

      I'm really surprised they owned up about the screw up....I suspect someone was about to tell and they decided to go ahead.

      POLITICS, pure politics rules the day. What is good for the nation or the voters is secondary. Hang onto power. If the Rep say black, they say white. Disgusting.

      And, BTW, the Reps did the same -- maybe not quite as hysterical -- to the Dems withe O was in office.

    21. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, I'm not the one who intentionally put a child molester in the white house and gave him the nuclear codes, trumptard.

    22. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I take home more in my pay check then I did under obama.

      Yes, you do, but only because that's what it took for them to push through their massive tax break for corporations and wealthy. Their original proposal, which they touted as a wonderful deal, was a windfall for the wealthy, but the majority of the middle class were actually seeing pretty massive tax INCREASES (for me, making under 100k, it was going to be an increase of like 3-4k per year in taxes). And they repeatedly talked about how good of a deal this proposal was. When it became clear to them this was not going to be swallowed by their base, they changed their proposal again. Still a windfall for the wealthly, but now more like neutral for the middle class. Again, this was a wonderful deal, but they still couldn't get the public to swallow it. So they finally had to actually give SOMETHING to the middle class just so they could get their tax break for the weathly. Finally people swallowed because, hey FREE MONEY!

      I get something like $100 a month extra now. Sure, that may be nice, but look at the evidence of how this went down and you can see it was simply a matter of you got bought off for the minimum price they could buy you off for. They gave you a token amount so the rich could get their windfall. You should also note that your tax cuts have an expiration. For some odd reason, the same is not true for the corporate tax cuts.

      And yes...you will certainly find it easier to pass bills when you have control of all branches of government and have no need to compromise. That said, I'm not sure what the QUANTITY of bills passed really says about their performance. Wouldn't it be more important to look at WHAT they passed?

    23. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      palace coup: noun, the nonviolent overthrow of a sovereign or government by senior officials within the ruling group.
      That wont happen in America. (The nonviolent part)
      Its been 651 days since Trump won election and they have been spying on him a lot longer than that. If there was hard evicted of Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes AND Misdemeanors it should have been presented by now. If they attempt to overthrow him for political reasons instead of convicting him based on evidence, then we are in uncharted and bloody territory. "Defend the Constitution against all enemies Foreign and Domestic": It's the oath we take when we swear into the military. I assure you that millions of Americans are deadly serious about that oath and the vast majority of them are well armed. They should step lightly, and maybe just wait and vote in 2020. If they lose then, get used to disappointment or maybe MOVE.

    24. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry, but there is a pretty big difference between ordinary rain falling from the sky, and discovering on your server that there is a mysterious fake login page for which there is no immediate explanation. You might notice that even know it doesn't sound like they are quite positive how the page got their. However, they've probably inspected the code thoroughly, been unable to figure out any way in which that could could have been used to pass captured credentials to 3rd party, and concluded that a simulated phishing test is the only explanation that makes sense.

    25. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They've already managed to get drawn in to altering the norms of politics that we won't have a functional government for years. They renormalized vandalism and threats as regular "discourse" during elections. They've drawn the confirmation process to make it impossible for the administration to get a stable set of people apart from what Trump is doing to his own cabinet. They've thrown litigation after litigation after the administration itself, the members, the policies. I know you think Republicans did it first, but if you take the high ground and don't allow the Republicans to move the bounds of civil behavior then civil behavior doesn't move and Republicans are the mustache twirling evil people. If you say I've got more where that came from then you are agreeing to accept the same when you are sitting pretty with all three branches.

    26. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I get something like $100 a month extra now. Sure, that may be nice, but look at the evidence of how this went down and you can see it was simply a matter of you got bought off for the minimum price they could buy you off for. They gave you a token amount so the rich could get their windfall." Well it certainly doesn't make up for the several hundred dollars a month the last administration's health policy changes continues to cost me, but it is a start. BTW how many middle class families is that helping?

    27. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm really surprised they owned up about the screw up....I suspect someone was about to tell and they decided to go ahead.

      There may have been someone about to tell the truth but that's not needed at all.

      This is how the newscycle goes.

      1. Break news! Hacking attempts against DNC servers.
      2. Rampant speculation from opinion heads that the Russians were up to it.
      3. Viewers/readers reading the news have their Russia Collusion narrative bias confirmed.
      4. 24 hours later DNC issues retraction statement. This gets updated on Internet articles about the story but rarely issued as a new story.
      5. Retraction isn't covered, because it's not a "new" story, viewers/readers continue operating under the assumption that Russians tried to hack the DNC.
      6. If it gets pointed out, the DNC can point to the retraction and say they were being truthful while simultaneously getting the benefit of lying because the lie was initially distributed and disseminated while the retraction not being disseminated is not their fault.

      This is the way news works because everyone wants breaking news and news within the hour of it happening and they don't have healthy skepticism because they're more than happy to listen to confirmation bias.

    28. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by JackieBrown · · Score: 2

      They reported it to keep their narrative of "we can't trust elections" alive.

    29. Re: Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The word you are looking for is âthanâ(TM).

    30. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Conservatives are so utterly, completely and totally consumed by their hate of liberals . . . You will never find a better example of hate than if you look at yourselves in the mirror . . .

      The simple reason conservatives hate liberals is because liberals hate freedom. To hate freedom is to hate your fellow man for simply living their life the way they see fit. Liberals hate freedom because they can't tolerate others with views different from their own.

      Wait, I thought liberals were tolerant and held diversity in the highest esteem? No! They only prefer diversity of skin color, race, and gender, not diversity of opinion. They only prefer diversity in order to divide the American people for their own political gain. Unfortunately, many "useful idiots" fall for it hook, line, and sinker. Did I mention conservatives hate liberals because they are some of the most dishonest people that walk the Earth? They even lie to themselves half the time.

      Liberals are well on their way to becoming the new Nazi. If you don't pass their politically-motivated litmus test, you don't deserve to exist. This is why Trump was elected, flaws and all, and why he will absolutely be elected again. There will be no indictment, subpoena, or impeachment -- real American patriots will make sure of it, just like they did the first time around. The ultimate check-and-balance if you will.

    31. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, I'm not the one who intentionally put a child molester in the white house . . .

      Can you say, FAKE NEWS?

      You were close, though. A child molester did almost end up in the White House and was actually a previous resident. Bill Clinton was a frequent flier on Epstein's Lolita Express. Unfortunately, that news is as real as it is sad. Guess you missed that one . . .

    32. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure how passing more bills than previous legislatures in and of itself is either good or bad.

      The same can be said for executive orders, yet you have never defended against the claim that Trump using more of them was a bad thing.

      Maybe it's always been this way, but it seems like our major parties have become much less about compromise and coming together than gaining power and dividing our country.

      It's been that way since Seneca and Cato. Nobody knows how to run a state. Some states have a structure where people that deserve power the least: the ones that want power, fight against themselves and cancel each other's bad habits out. That is the best political science has come up with.

      Democrats admit to it by insisting on high regulation and accountability. Republicans admit to it by insisting on a federal government with less power.

    33. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Clinton was impeached because of the pure hatred the Republicans had for him. The investigation took many years and turned up nothing except a "nope, I didn't cheat on my wife!". High Crimes and Misdemeanors! Even Ken Starr has expressed regret that the took on the Lewinsky case, despite it being the only "win" of his investigation.

      I don't think Trump necessarily has anything impeachable either. He certainly hangs out with a lot of crooked people though, and has some terrible lawyers (the worst being Guiliani). The thing that will get Trump in trouble though will be Trump's attempt to make this all go away, the same thing that got Nixon in trouble. Can Trump maintain a level of self control here?

    34. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absurd. Paying hush money isn't illegal. Being blackmailed is. You have no evidence, (like DNA on a blue dress), that Trump did any of them. And if he did, MOVE ON. Its his personal life! Remember? Congress has a fund that has paid millions in hush money from tax payer funds. Bill Clinton paid $800,000 to Jennifer Flowers. Remember "Drag a $100 bill through a trailer park"... all quotes from the Bill Clinton campaign.

    35. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He lied under oath, which is a big thing, and especially important when you're supposed to trust your president. The slippery slope created when people tried to hand wave it away as nothing is why we now got politicians like Trump running things. Remember when politicians at least had the sense to pretend to be sorry for what they did and step down? Or at least just step down (like Nixon)? Now they just fly in the face of truth. This line of thinking is what got us there.

    36. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait what??? You're saying you have an increase in taxes of 3-4k but you're taking home an extra $100 per month. I'm no math major, but it seems to me your take home income increased by $1200.

      Granted the federal tax code is complex, don't start there instead start with basic arithmetic and comprehension skills.

    37. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes, a conspiracy theory believing nutcase. For Trump to not have had relations with those women requires three people to lie:

      Keeping in mind that Trump's story is inconsistent, the evidence shows that

      • Trump had relations with both women
      • He paid them both hush money

      But, hey, if you believe conspiracy theories, maybe you're also one of those idiots who believe the Earth is flat

    38. Re:Ooh! We blocked one! Never mind... by McFortner · · Score: 1

      Well, it all depends on what your definition of "is" is.

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  3. They finally learned... by mi · · Score: 4, Informative

    So, as Equifax and Ashley Madison — to name just a few — before, DNC has learned to take data-security seriously the hard-way. A welcome change nonetheless, for sure.

    Would it to be proper to mention, that the RNC has successfully foiled such an attack back in 2016? No? Too partisan? Ok...

    Or, maybe, it is not too partisan to call out the same guys, who have once mocked an opponent for being computer illiterate?

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    1. Re:They finally learned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't say the DNC is technologically inferior if their competition is both the US AND Russian governments. That just isn't fair.

    2. Re:They finally learned... by mi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can't say the DNC is technologically inferior if their competition is both the US AND Russian governments

      in 2016, DNC was the US government. And they failed anyway...

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    3. Re:They finally learned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in 2016, DNC was the US government. And they failed anyway...

      Oh mi, just because you assume a political party is an authoritarian regime, doesn't mean it actually is.

    4. Re:They finally learned... by arth1 · · Score: 2

      in 2016, DNC was the US government.

      There are three branches to the government, and none of them were exclusive to DNC.
      Even if you mistake DNC for the Democratic Party, it's patently false.

    5. Re:They finally learned... by mi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are three branches to the government, and none of them were exclusive to DNC.

      Not "exclusive". But certainly run by the Democrats — as is normal for when the Executive branch is headed by a Democrat, of course.

      Even if you mistake DNC for the Democratic Party

      Distinction without meaningful difference to the topic at hand.

      it's patently false

      Oh, it is quite true. It is no secret at all, that Obama's administration (ab)used its power to spy on Republicans and help the fellow Democrats. And not only was the NSA-collected data used that way, Comey's FBI was "doing its part" too.

      "Patently false" my tail...

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    6. Re:They finally learned... by Vitriol+Angst · · Score: 1

      The RNC was also hacked but that information, for some reason, was not let loose on WikiLeaks.

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    7. Re:They finally learned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since the "hacking" was 99% social engineering via FaceBook and Twitter, along with recruiting assets in the GOP, witting or unwitting, I don't see how you can blame the US government.

      The US government warned the Trump campaign, Obama warned Putin and put sanctions on Russia, other country's IC all worked with the US, and Russia was exposed as a bad actor.

      But you go ahead and blame the DNC for things Russia did. Next, tell us all how America had it coming because she was wearing a short skirt.

    8. Re:They finally learned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      in 2016, DNC was the US government. And they failed anyway...

      Oh mi, just because you assume a political party is an authoritarian regime, doesn't mean it actually is.

      You might want to remember that when you (or your compadres) claim that the RNC is an authoritarian regime.

    9. Re:They finally learned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're holding up an >OPINION PIECE in USA Today as evidence of...anything?! Talk about fake news.

    10. Re:They finally learned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's hard to embarrass an organization we already know is corrupt as shit.

      Besides, the proles love Trump! Trump! Trump! What are they going to expose? That Trump did something-or-other that cost Lyin' Ted or Little Markie the nomination? WhoTF was fired up for either of those. I might have voted for Kasich, but Sanders got my vote instead, and they sort of only let you vote in one primary.

      Everybody I know who voted for Clinton hated her and wanted Sanders instead. Whoever the leaker was is a hero.

      The DNC was exposed as just as corrupt as the RNC. Get over it!

    11. Re:They finally learned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was no assumption of authoritarianism there. Let me dumb this down for you : in 2016, DNC was not competing with "both the US AND Russian governments", because Obama is a democrat and he was in power at that time.

      Not that it ever was since this comment was basically meaningless.

    12. Re:They finally learned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, we blame the DNC for shit the DNC did. You still refuse to grapple with the fact that the DNC fucked over Bernie Sanders, which directly led to Trump being president.

      You dipshits are delusional.

    13. Re:They finally learned... by mi · · Score: 1

      The RNC was also hacked

      Was it? No, it was not.

      for some reason, was not let loose on WikiLeaks

      Such a fresh, beautiful conspiracy theory, nipped in its innocent pink bud...

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    14. Re:They finally learned... by Train0987 · · Score: 1

      Maybe because there was nothing salacious there? Also note that the RNC cooperated with the FBI to investigate, whereas the DNC to this day will not allow the FBI to look at their servers or evidence.

      I don't believe for a second that any foreign power hacked John Podesta's gmail account or the DNC servers. Every bit of evidence points to the gmail hack being incompetence on his part and the DNC leaks being an inside job.

    15. Re:They finally learned... by mi · · Score: 2

      The "opinion piece" cites an article with the actual declassified government documents...

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    16. Re:They finally learned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty much anything on CNN and CBS news today is speculation and opinion...

      That's the news today in America. No one does any work on reporting anything. They just speculate and opine.

    17. Re:They finally learned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Equifax takes data-security seriously? Perhaps you mean semi-seriously? Equifax profited off of the data breach by creating a demand for credit monitoring.

    18. Re:They finally learned... by pots · · Score: 1

      ... What? Do you not know what the DNC is? It stands for Democratic National Committee. It's basically a fundraising and support organization for Democratic political candidates. It is not and has never been the US government, it is not the Democratic Party, it has no influence over politicians, it's leaders are not politicians (though many of them have been in the past).

      There's a comparable organization, the RNC, which is also not the US government, and not the Republican Party, etc. These are support organizations.

    19. Re:They finally learned... by Glarimore · · Score: 1

      Or, maybe, it is not too partisan to call out the same guys, who have once mocked an opponent for being computer illiterate?

      Good job conflating a candidate's computer literacy with the competence of an IT department.

    20. Re:They finally learned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which say nothing about spying on Republicans. They just say more spying on Americans and more unmasking.

    21. Re:They finally learned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As if this 'opinion piece' was all the evidence out there. Do you need to be spoon fed?

    22. Re:They finally learned... by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

      Just before died, Seth Rich may have revealed to the police why he didn't also leak the RNC's emails. Unfortunately the DC police still won't turn over the bodycam video, so we'll probably never know.

    23. Re:They finally learned... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in 2016, DNC was the US government. And they failed anyway...

      Oh mi, just because you assume a political party is an authoritarian regime, doesn't mean it actually is.

      You might want to remember that when you (or your compadres) claim that the RNC is an authoritarian regime.

      I'm certain what he's saying is that just because your party is an authoritarian regime, don't assume that the DNC is authoritarian.

      And in that point, he would be correct.

  4. The FBI by TykeClone · · Score: 4, Funny

    Must have asked for access to their server.

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    1. Re:The FBI by quantaman · · Score: 1

      Must have asked for access to their server.

      Haha, very funny.

      The FBI HAD access to the server last time, images of the server VMs which is exactly what the FBI wanted.

      I know it's a dumb joke, but lets not let this become the new "Al Gore claims he invented the Internet".

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    2. Re:The FBI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know it's a dumb joke, but lets not let this become the new "Al Gore claims he invented the Internet".

      You mean, true? (Al Gore did claim to have created the Internet. Not invented, he claimed that he was the one who transformed it from a research project into the modern Internet.)

      The DNC had "wiped the servers (like with a cloth)" before handing them over to the FBI. The FBI got no useful information from the servers and there's still no evidence that it wasn't an inside job and a lot to suggest it was.

    3. Re:The FBI by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      I know it's a dumb joke, but lets not let this become the new "Al Gore claims he invented the Internet".

      That's just poppycock. Everyone knows that he actually invented the algorithm.

    4. Re:The FBI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Must have asked for access to their server.

      Haha, very funny.

      The FBI HAD access to the server last time, images of the server VMs which is exactly what the FBI wanted.

      I know it's a dumb joke, but lets not let this become the new "Al Gore claims he invented the Internet".

      True. Whether or not the FBI actually had the DNC server images is irrelevant when they were all but flying an "I'm with her!" flag on the HQs flagpole while they were working on whatever that "insurance policy" was.

      Hmmm. Maybe that "insurance policy" was a special counsel investigation where any attempt to clean out corrupt sleazeballs that used the NSA to spy on a rival campaign - guys like Andy "$1 million from Hillary! went to my wife!" McCabe and Bruce "my wife worked with the guys Hillary! paid to create the Steele dossier!" Ohr or James "I sat on the Hillary! email investigation until Carlos Danger's laptop forced my hand right before the election!" Comey - from the DoJ could be painted as "obstruction of justice".

      Nevermind addressing the use of the NSA to spy on US citizens for political reasons in the first fucking place.

    5. Re: The FBI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Old lies are the best lies apparently.

    6. Re:The FBI by Train0987 · · Score: 1

      "The FBI HAD access to the server last time, images of the server VMs which is exactly what the FBI wanted."

      Except that is a very recent cover story that the FBI denies. The DNC hired Cloudstrike (a supporter/contributor) to "confirm" that the evil Russians had hacked their servers instead of legitimate law enforcement..

  5. Did they wipe the server? by Oh+really+now · · Score: 5, Funny

    You know, like with a cloth?

    1. Re:Did they wipe the server? by Daralantan · · Score: 1

      Don't say anything about "bleaching" or "acid bath" though. You might have a fact checker saying that you lied because you used the wrong term!

  6. How about some context here? by onyxruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Saying someone was trying to hack the DNC doesn't mean anything. Any organization of a certain size or reputation deals with hack attempts 24/7/365. Many organizations have their own SOC just to deal with the non stop attempts. Smaller organizations will often outsource their SOC to a specialist company when they don't have the resources.

    Low level hack attempts are a bit like CMB. It's everywhere you look, in any direction you look, it never ever stops and quickly becomes background noise.

    1. Re:How about some context here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Context:

      Hostile foreign governments engaged in wide ranging sophisticated online manipulation and hacking targeting the US' ENTIRE political system. Yes this is a common threat. The political leader of the US has done jack shit about it aside from ask to be friends with said hostile foreign government's dictator. Feeling empowered about the lack of consequences, online manipulation and hacking is ongoing (see fb and uSoft press releases) and Iran is doing it too now! Good thing we haven't made any new enemies lately...oh wait...

  7. You are idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    FBI to this day have not had access to hacked DNC servers.
    To this day there is no expert witness who has viewed DNC servers willing to state Russia hacked them in court.

    Pakistan intelligence has the contents of that DNC server, but our FBI does not.
    26 people from the FBI/DOJ have now been fired or forced to resign because of their inappropriate behavior on the job concerning this and investigating Trump. Does this sound like actions of "its just normal stuff" to you?

    We have the #2 at the DOJ on perjury and abuse of power in signing a FISA warrant with known false information to spy on a citizen for political reasons. Yes, a program to catch terrorist was abused by the DOJ to spy on citizens for political reasons, and now he runs the Muller investigation. If Muller had any credibility he would insist on Rosenstein being fired immediately for corruption, but he doesn't.

    Instead we get retards like you claiming using FISA warrants against citizens who have done nothing wrong is ok as long as it helped Clinton.

  8. Surprising by cyberchondriac · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm a little pleasantly surprised they came clean and didn't just continue to run with it, to stir up more "ruhssian treason" sentiment.
    OTOH however, they also know that the first accusation that goes out gets repeated and retweeted the most, and relatively fewer people pay attention to retractions or corrections, most particularly if those don't align with their political confirmation bias. In many people's perspective, this will continue to be yet another russian "hack" of the DNC.

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  9. Re:This Republican apologist faggot should hang al by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Name one felony

  10. Hmmmmmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Right - oh, no! It was just a test! We aren't hackable!

    1. Re: Hmmmmmmm by jrumney · · Score: 1

      Not a test. A simulation of a test. By an unknown third party. Nothing to see here...we didn't get hacked.

  11. Re:This Republican apologist faggot should hang al by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He cant name one, its just sperging at this point. I doubt that borderline downs syndrome kid even believes it anymore, he just bet his fucked up life on the wrong horse and now cant cope with his mistakes

  12. Even better... it wasn't a HACK, was JUST PHISHING by furry_wookie · · Score: 0

    Good greif, now I read that the whole DNC thing yesterday was not even an "attack" it was just a phising email sent to some people. And they cried "muh rushians" over that.

    The Nigerian Prince who sent these super scary emails to people at the DNC which made headlines in every #fakenews organization yesterday, was unavailable for comment.

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  13. Re:Even better... it wasn't a HACK, was JUST PHISH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should try to find more reliable sources to read.

  14. Good Lord by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

    So they hit the media claiming an attack because of an internal phishing test??

    I mean, kudos for finally watching for this stuff now, but ...

    1. Re:Good Lord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More like their false flag "russian hacking" got busted and linked back to a company connected to the DNC, so now they're backpedaling and saying the whole thing was all a test. I mean, seriously, what do you think happened? Do you honestly think the DNC is so incompetent that they went off half-cocked, called up all their friends in the media, and created a national news story about some nefarious hacking story before finding out the facts? These people are professionals!

  15. Maybe that's their actual security plan by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    In the event of intrusion attempt:

    1. Alert the media

    2. ???

    3. Profit!

  16. You're Gonna Have To Explain That New Math To Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You lefties are a hoot. It's like your brains are wired for 2+2=5.

    That's because we're rational and understand measured quantities and not just countable numbers.

    I walked the dog for 2 miles yesterday, and 2 miles today. We walked a total of 5 miles.

    You're gonna have to explain that new math to me. OP says leftie brains are miswired to accept incorrect math. You counter with incorrect math as evidence that OP is incorrect?

    In all seriousness, WTF are you talking about?

  17. Re:This Republican apologist faggot should hang al by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    A word of advice.

    When you call Trump things like

    punk faggot traitor ass

    it comes across as hate.

    I think he's very likely guilty of felonies
    I think he is a traitor.
    I think he's hateful.
    I wouldn't call him a Nazi, but I do think he's racist.
    I'm doubtful that he will "hang" in any sense.
    I suspect the worst fate that he faces is losing the election in 2020 and being judged a terrible and corrupt president by history.

    And when you use extreme rhetoric as you've done in your post it only strengthens Trump's base. It could be that's your goal.

    Of course Trump supporters are guilty of hateful rhetoric as well and I know it's tempting to respond in kind but that only feeds into the hate. Maybe that's your real goal.

  18. trolls unite by SoulRider · · Score: 0

    OMG its a troll feeding ground!

  19. Re:When Trump goes to Federal Prison though... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What are you going to do when this doesn't actually happen? He's not going to prison, he probably won't be impeached. Even if he is impeached, he won't get convicted.

    You're going to be disappointed and then you're going to need your Therapy puppy and coloring books.

  20. Re:This Republican apologist faggot should hang al by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Giving porn stars he fucked with hush money. This is a federal crime, especially during a presidential campaign.

    To quote that article:

    But a media company makes an illegal corporate contribution if it acts outside its "legitimate press function" in coordinating with a campaign to spend money to influence an election.

  21. Is anyone surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was just a tactic to establish president for colossal butthurt when the DNC loses seats in the fall. More interesting is that Microsoft was publicly complicit in these 'hacks'' 'discovery'.

  22. Re: This Republican apologist faggot should hang by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Preach it, Comrade Wang!

  23. Re:You're Gonna Have To Explain That New Math To M by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Once you understand gaslighting you'll understand the joke.

  24. Re:You're Gonna Have To Explain That New Math To M by arth1 · · Score: 1

    It's correct math. Measured numbers are not like cardinal or rational numbers.

    My daily walk with the dog is typically around 2.3-2.4 miles, depending on whether we cut corners or not. That rounds to 2 miles.
    In two days, we will have walked twice that, or 4.6-4.8 miles. That rounds to 5 miles.

    But you don't even need that additional information. 2 as a measured quantity without qualifying further is 2 +- 0.5, and 5 is within twice that.

    When you drive, do you feel a bunch of donkey kicks as your speed increase instantly from 40 mph to 41 mph to 42 mph ...? Or do you call Ford and bitch because it never tells you that your speed is 41.37593122205 mph?

  25. No applogies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No apologies to the Republican party which they incinuated was behind this with the Russians? Amazing fake news. Fact is, Democrats have always sided with the Russians, for as long I've been following politics which is over 50 years. Socialist and Communists vote Democrat, 100%. Always. The Russians have always hated the Republican party. They didn't want to help Trump win the election. They wanted to destroy democracy, which they are doing with the medias help very easily by spreading false information, hate, and distrust, If you've kept abreast of this issue you know that the Russians created fake news against both parties. It's sole purpose is to cause unrest in the world.

    American's, mostly Democrats have fallen for this hook, line, and sinker with the help of American news outlets. They actually believe that all of the sudden, after nearly 100 years that the Republican party is in league with the Commies and that the Democrat party has done a 180 and is not longer a left-leaning socialist party, (socialists integrated into the Democratic party in 1932). Most would say that the Communist party joined the Democrats officially in the 1980's as their one and only candidate that ran for president finally called it quits, Gus Hall.

    History doesn't repeat, just people with no memory of it. In the 1960's Russia, then the Soviet Union performed these tactics on US college campuses. Now they have the Internet to spread lies, and the ignorant are eager to feast upon their gruel.

  26. Re:You're Gonna Have To Explain That New Math To M by martinX · · Score: 1

    What made you assume he was talking about measurable numbers and not cardinal or rational?

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  27. Re:You're Gonna Have To Explain That New Math To M by arth1 · · Score: 1

    What made you assume he was talking about measurable numbers and not cardinal or rational?

    Why assume? Making assumptions is bad, being open-minded is not. And there seems be a strong correlation between being open-minded and being liberal.

  28. Politicos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only thing I am absolutely sure of is that until politicians and government employees learn that they can be individually held accountable for clicking on the suspicious email and installing the back door, nothing will change. My employer told us that we could be fired for being the person who let a hacker in if it could be traced to our machine. Suddenly people stopped clicking on the emails that were clearly not work related.