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Elon Musk Says Investors Convinced Him Tesla Should Stay Public (washingtonpost.com)

Weeks after Tesla CEO Elon Musk expressed his intentions to take his company private, on late Friday, he said investors have convinced him that he shouldn't take the company private, so the firm will remain on the public stock markets. From a report: The eccentric and sometimes erratic CEO said in a statement late Friday that he made the decision based on feedback from shareholders, including institutional investors, who said they have internal rules limiting how much they can sink into a private company. Musk met with the electric car and solar panel company's board on Thursday to tell them he wanted to stay public and the board agreed, according to the statement. In a blog post, Mr. Musk shared the rationale behind his decision, to which he arrived after speaking with investors, both large and small, banks and others. He said: Given the feedback I've received, it's apparent that most of Tesla's existing shareholders believe we are better off as a public company. Additionally, a number of institutional shareholders have explained that they have internal compliance issues that limit how much they can invest in a private company. There is also no proven path for most retail investors to own shares if we were private. Although the majority of shareholders I spoke to said they would remain with Tesla if we went private, the sentiment, in a nutshell, was "please don't do this."

I knew the process of going private would be challenging, but it's clear that it would be even more time-consuming and distracting than initially anticipated. This is a problem because we absolutely must stay focused on ramping Model 3 and becoming profitable. We will not achieve our mission of advancing sustainable energy unless we are also financially sustainable. That said, my belief that there is more than enough funding to take Tesla private was reinforced during this process.

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  1. Great Story by Brett+Buck · · Score: 3, Funny

    You be sure and tell them that down at the police station...

    1. Re:Great Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      when did changing your mind become a crime

      When it involves lies to manipulate you’re stock price.

    2. Re:Great Story by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Interesting

      when did changing your mind become a crime

      Disseminating or manipulating information that can affect stock prices is tightly regulated by the SEC. Doing so in a false or misleading way can be a criminal offense.

      Elon used Twitter is make an announcement that caused a big movement in Tesla's stock price. He profited big time from this by forcing many shorties to abandon their positions at a loss. Then he comes back and says "Nevermind".

      There should be an SEC investigation, and if it turns out that the "investors" never existed with the capital to privatize, then there should be criminal charges.

      Disclaimer: My wife owns a Tesla, and I have been accused in the past of being a Tesla-fanboi.

    3. Re:Great Story by vtcodger · · Score: 2

      "There should be an SEC investigation"

      Of course there's going to be an SEC investigation. It'll probably find that Musk had no malign intent, but that he broke some rules. They'll lay a substantial fine on him more as an example to others than a punishment. He'll pay out of petty cash.

      OTOH, you'd think the CEO of a substantial company would have the good sense to check with a lawyer before sending out a post on twitter (for God's sake) that might affect his company's stock price. Anyone who was looking for a reason to bail out of Tesla stock sure has one. The company is apparently being run by a guy who is, to understate the case, not a detail man.

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    4. Re:Great Story by sphealey · · Score: 2

      Did Musk make a statement about taking Tesla private without the approval of the Board of Directors, and did that statement result in significant movement of the stock price. Did Musk have a plan in place to ensure that the information was disseminated to all investors with reasonable expectation of simultaneity - usually accomplished with a temporary stock trading halt and/or an announcement when the major stock exchanges are closed. Did Tesla actually have $45 billion USD "arranged" when he announced that he did?

  2. Elon Musk is a fraud by fozzy1015 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm sure the persuasiveness of Cathy Wood of ARK on CNBC today convinced Musk and the board that Tesla is worth $4K a share and should stay public. Even to a six year old it's plain Musk is a conman and fraud.

  3. But, but, but... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 3, Funny

    Funding Secured! $420 per share! Done deal!

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  4. Pure market manipulation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    There is a name for this kind of action — market manipulation.

    Get ready to enjoy the show when SEC deal with him.

  5. ah by ChoGGi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So, is Musk's way of saying if he tried to take Tesla private the board would've ousted him?

  6. Musk hasn't "changed his mind" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He is being told to let go and he's letting go.

    Tesla needs a serious amount of fresh money to overcome losses, stalling demand, talent loss and the incoming high and low cost competition.

    The Tony Stark wannabe attention whore isn't the answer, an adult manager is, if Tesla is to have a good chance of a turnaround.

    It shedding the crazy buy at any price stock fan club is another.

    But the most important will be hiring people who know how to make cars, and hope they can reverse the damage from Team Amateur.

    1. Re: Musk hasn't "changed his mind" by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

      Those roads would have been bid at 2 years, and at $100 million per mile, but he'd get them done in 4 years, at $200 million per mile - and the self-paving requires you to have your hands on the asphalt machine at all times. But other than that...

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    2. Re: Musk hasn't "changed his mind" by Rei · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Those roads would have been bid at 2 years, and at $100 million per mile, but he'd get them done in 4 years, at $200 million per mile

      Only if the normal cost and time for said roads would be 8 years and $1B per mile.

      As a general rule, Musk sets "ridiculously aggressive" targets for his companies, but only hits "quite aggressive" ones. But better to shoot for the stars and miss than shoot for the gutter and hit it. As a reminder: even with the half-year delay** on the Model 3 production scaleup, they still scaled up faster than the Bolt, which was built on an existing line with an existing workforce. And now Tesla's volumes now make everyone else look like they're missing a zero.

      ** Then again, the *original* schedule for the Model 3 wasn't to start production until the end of 2017 anyway; they only missed the *moved up* schedule, not the original one.

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    3. Re:Musk hasn't "changed his mind" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      LOL. Why is it that Americans always forget that there's a world outside of America?

      LOL back. A lot of us here on Slashdot aren't Americans, and in the world outside of the Soviet Republic of California, demand for Tesla is non-existent.

      One reason is, of course, the absurdly high prices of what is otherwise a pretty unremarkable vehicle.

      In places like Western Europe, where it is within financial reach of the affluent minority, the sales outside of the two countries that provide a significant subsidy are down sharply: https://twitter.com/auto_schmi...

      The Dutch subsidy is disappearing next year, so the "success story" there will closely follow that in HK, where Tesla had a bunch of sales pre-2017, and these went down to practically nil when the HK subsidy disappeared and customers realized at the real price a Tesla isn't a bargain.

      But the major shift in the interest away from Tesla in Europe is due to new models, real cars from real car manufacturers that actually have adequate finish and pleasant interior, becoming available this or next year. The demand will fall further when people see the horse carriage that is the Model 3 in real life.

      I tried one the other day, and frankly, I liked the dashboard of my Trabant in 1987 better. Compared to the Polski Fiat 125p, M3 is abysmal. Maybe Kalashnikov isn't far off with their electric car, you know.

      Model 3 sales are only open to the US and Canada - and I watch even people from there trying to pass the time waiting for their cars every day on the Tesla forums.

      It is very interesting that despite the "pent up demand", Tesla has a huge number of vehicles that aren't being shipped to those waiting customers even in the US. Why would that be? Does it have to do with the terrible quality?

      It's really frustrating hearing shorts and short-aligned people

      Yawn, that "short" thing is really getting old.

    4. Re: Musk hasn't "changed his mind" by Rei · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nice concern trolling; it's funny how the shorts and Tesla opponents vocally "care" way much more about the timing of the base model than the actual reservation holders. Because Tesla is doing the exact same thing as Jaguar is doing, as Hyundai is doing, etc (selling higher-optioned-out variants of their EVs first).

      They can sell every LR+PUP they produce, even without opening up three quarters of their global market. But they should totally sell lower margin versions instead in order to make a bunch of trolls happy, right?

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    5. Re:Musk hasn't "changed his mind" by Rei · · Score: 5, Insightful

      LOL back. A lot of us here on Slashdot aren't Americans

      And yet somehow pretend that the US plus Canada is Tesla's total market nonetheless - rather than it being a quarter of their market.

      One reason is, of course, the absurdly high prices of what is otherwise a pretty unremarkable vehicle.

      Highest-polling consumer satisfaction year-over-year of any brand.

      ...the sales outside of the two countries that provide a significant subsidy are down sharply: https://twitter.com/auto_schmi

      Per-country month-by-month sales are mostly a reflection of delivery allocation. You people have been nonstop predicting a Tesla demand cliff ever since it founded - every year, every month. You'd think a broken record would have been right once in all this time.

      The Dutch subsidy is disappearing next year

      The subsidy in question only concerns commercial buyers. It's a 4% currently, but will go to 22% for the amount of a car's price over €50000. So, say, for an €80000 Model S the tax for commercial buyers (again, reiterating that aspect) goes from €3200 to €8600, or €5200 more expensive. Meaningful, but not dramatic either for someone in the market for an €80000 car; nothing remotely like, say, the HK case (which wasn't just about commercial cars). For a €50000-or-less Model 3 (arriving in NL early next year), it will have no impact whatsoever. For, say, a €60000 well optioned Model 3, it only adds €1800 to the price.

      This is your trump card? To overcome the huge annual year-over-year EV demand growth? *snicker*

      But the major shift in the interest away from Tesla in Europe is due to new models, real cars from real car manufacturers

      *snicker*. Why, yes, cars being produced in tiny volumes are going to totally kill Tesla.

      Econoboxen: Maybe it'll be the Hyundai Kona that kills them? Yeah, with global annual production volumes equal to three weeks of Model 3 production (which itself is far from at max), that's totally going to destroy them. Niro? Same. Meanwhile, a number of older econobox models are declining or disappearing. Hey, maybe Leaf can overcome its order-of-magnitude falling behind Model 3 with its new cooling system fixing #Rapidgate! Except, um, the same was said about the E-NV200, and its cooling system is terrible, and only slightly reduces the consequences of #Rapidgate. Here, name your "Tesla killer", go on!

      Luxury EVs: What about the (delayed) I-Pace, that car that eats 275 Wh/km@88 kph (Model 3 = half that) but can only charge at 70-80kW at rarer higher power CCS stations for only 30% of its SoC before taper (Model 3 = 50% SoC @ 117kW from current superchargers, more from V3) and only ~45kW from the much more common lower power stations, has no more passenger "area" inside than a Model 3 (just higher) despite laughably pretending that it's X sized because it's a "SUV", has a hilariously awkward nav system and an AP that drives like its drunk, and is only planned at production volumes of (estimates vary) 10-30k per year, with the largest chunk of those going to Waymo, not private buyers? My god, Tesla should fear for its life! ;) E-Tron looks to be in the exact same situation of low volumes and guzzling energy without comparable charge rates, meaning you can't actually use it like... well, a car. Aka, a device you can actually use to drive between point A and point B even if A and B aren't near each other. If it can only take you around your local area, that a neighborhood electric vehicle, and it's at best a second car. The first one in the luxury segment that looks like it will be interesting is the Taycan (though their burn-out-your-cells charge rates are concerning, they at least understand the importance of streamlining), although t

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    6. Re:Musk hasn't "changed his mind" by Rei · · Score: 2

      No. It takes profit. They're very different things.

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    7. Re:Musk hasn't "changed his mind" by Rei · · Score: 2

      The Dutch tax is still just for company car drivers; let's not pretend it is about people just randomly buying themselves a personal car. And doesn't have any affect at all for vehicles under €50k, and only incremental over that.

      "around 15000" -> 18600. And the production rate has been widely reported on. Yes, the Kona is already overbooked by years in some markets. Estimates in Norway are that a new order now won't be filled until late 2020.

      If you're fine with "econoboxy" interiors / less sporty performance and handling, not having an app to preheat / precool / etc, and having a rather small interior, as well as having highway charging speeds (assuming you have high power CCS stations en route, not 50kW stations) half that of Model 3 LR and probably around 70% of Model 3 SR - and if you can get ahold of one - Kona could be right for you. While it's not up to Model 3 charging rates, it's certainly way better than most other lower-end EVs (and makes #Rapidgate Leafs look like a joke ;) ). But don't delay if you want one.

      ** Model 3 LR RWD Aero: Up to 117kW 0-50% (50% * {310 nominal miles, 334 measured} = 155 nominal, 167 measured miles). Kona LR: Up to 70kW 0-58% (58% * 258 miles = 149 miles = less than Model 3, so we'll be nice to the Kona and use the point where its (sharp) taper begins as our cutoff, not the Model 3's). EPA hwy efficiency: Model 3 LR AWD = 123 MPGe, Kona LR hwy efficiency = 108 MPGe). (70 / 117) * (108 / 123) = 52.5%.

      Model 3 SR is 7% lighter, so should be about 3% more efficient. The difference in charging between the S/X 100 packs and the 75 packs is that the former charges at near 120kW, while the latter charges at nearly 110kW; both begin taper around the same point. So one could assume something similar (but perhaps slightly more of a difference) between the LR and SR packs. Also, the Model 3 SR will begin to taper before you get to the Kona's taper point, although Teslas use a gentle linear taper (Kona under goes a series of sharp instant tapers).

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    8. Re:Musk hasn't "changed his mind" by Rei · · Score: 2

      M3 is only sold in the US.

      US and Canada. And they'll sell it outside of them whenever they need to. They're not, so they don't. Obviously.

      Is international travel unheard of

      Right. Again, note my totally-believing-you face that you, a person who hates Teslas, took time out of your vacation (or what it a trip specifically for this? ;) ) to test drive a Model 3. You were planning a family trip to the US some time in the past several months and thought, "You know what? I'm going to get in touch with a Tesla store representative and book a test drive, and take time out of wherever it was that I actually planned to do in the US in order to drive to them (they're hardly "everywhere") and test drive it, just so I could sound more authoritative when I complained about it on the internet.

      Focus on the eyes. See the totally-believing-you stare? That's because I'm totally believing you.

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  7. Re: Tesla is a good investment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    You should have sold at 320. Tesla is a liability even at $4.20. And the free ride is gone, the competition both at the top and at the bottom has come and is better.

  8. Re: Wut? by Mr.+Dollar+Ton · · Score: 2

    Probably, considering the announcement, because the actual announcement is "No buyers, dilution secured."

    We'll see how the stock fares over the next few weeks.

  9. Re: Wut? by Rei · · Score: 2

    Here's to hoping it drops below 300. I've got a buy order in place :)

    One thing I love about TSLA is the guaranteed volatility. People freak out about short-term news, and then forget all about it, then freak out about the next thing, then forget about it. You look at a graph of the stock, all of the spikes and plunges, and you have to struggle to remember what exactly it was that the market was freaking out about on any given low and why it didn't matter just weeks later.

    As a long, you can always trust that no matter how good the news, the shorts will find some way to spin it as not actually being good news. There will always be another low to for you to buy low, so go ahead and sell high :) This might change after the Q4 report... I really doubt the Q3 report alone will do it, though. They'll just spin the profit as a "one-time thing" and then go back to your regularly scheduled doomsaying.

    BTW, you guys should really diversify your arguments. Here's a tool that may help.

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  10. Re:Very little respect by 110010001000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Total bullshit. There was no request from the rescue team for Musk's sub. It was just an ego thing. You are a liar, Rei. Even you will realize your drugged God is nothing but a narcissist conman.

  11. Re: Wut? by Rei · · Score: 2

    They were already at positive margins in Q2 without any AWD and P (heavy profit margins) in the mix. Now they're 50% of the mix. Deliveries this quarter will be three times what they were in Q2. It's not difficult math. Combine it with the restructuring in Q2 that added costs in Q2 (such as severance) to save money from Q3 onward, the cars stockpiled in Q2 (to avoid hitting the 200k limit) that have been delivered in Q3, and of course the continuing increases in production rate (reduces depreciation and labour per vehicle) and margins (reduced scrap, reduced rework with time**)... again, it's really obvious to see where they're headed.

    ** It's funny when shorts complain about Tesla's rate of scrap and rework without realizing that they're laying out a solid case for Model 3 having massive margins as the production process continues to get refined over the coming quarters. If they're already having slightly positive margins with such "high" scrap / rework rates, what exactly do you think happens to the margins when scrap / rework rates are low?

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