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Federal Judge Rules Against Trump Administration on 3-D Gun Blueprint Case (latimes.com)

A federal judge on Monday issued a preliminary injunction continuing a prohibition on the Trump administration proposal to make available blueprints for so-called ghost guns, untraceable weapons that can be manufactured on a 3-D printer, California Atty. Gen. Xavier Becerra said. From a report: California was one of 20 states led by Washington that won the decision from U.S. District Judge Robert S. Lasnik in Seattle. The injunction extends a ruling last month that barred the Trump administration from taking steps that would allow the firm Defense Distributed to disseminate 3-D gun blueprints. "When the Trump Administration inexplicably gave the green light to distribute on the internet blueprints of 3D-printed, untraceable ghost guns, it needlessly endangered our children, our loved ones and our men and women in law enforcement," Becerra said in a statement. "The Trump Administration's actions were dangerous and incompetent."

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  1. Re:DUMB! by ArchieBunker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You're an idiot. The barrel is metal and so is the bullet, along with springs and other items. What is stopping me from making the same device with a lathe and mill?

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  2. It's not like these are the first open source guns by pecosdave · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The AK-47 is way ahead of these on the open-source fire arm bandwagon. The Trump administration is sticking with what the constitution says, this activist judge and all the me-too's from elsewhere are virtue-signaling their left wing stances.

    This is a combined 1st and 2nd amendment issue - shutting it down is violating both, I don't care what the laws of non-U.S. countries are. It's not our job to enforce the laws of other countries, if they don't want their people getting what's on U.S. servers it's their job to block their users, not ours.

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  3. Re:Another judge legislating from the bench by HornWumpus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The judge says you can't download the files from defense distributed

    The files are readily available.

    As are other files that show you how to make usable guns from metal (AK action from a shovel).

    This one has to be tough for TDS people, he's right. Best to just move past it, as fast as possible.

    An all plastic gun is already illegal to have. They are supposed to set off metal detectors. IIRC 10 years federal, same as an unlicensed machine gun/guided missile.

    You can be up for 10 years for purposely bending a semi auto's firing pin, making it slamfire. The whole area of law is no joke. 10 years for a useless plastic gun would be embarrassing. Like a 'petty' crime bust.

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  4. Re:I STILL don't get it. by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What grounds are there for stopping this information from being published?

    It's really simple. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - "The printing press was revolution, the printed gun will cause one!"

    Statist nations are going to state.

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  5. Re:Another judge legislating from the bench by Woldscum · · Score: 4, Interesting

    More Pro gun control Fake News.

    VERY IMPORTANT point. If you are legally able to buy/own a firearm (AK, AR, BB gun, Shotgun, Pistol, etc). You are 100% legally able to build yourself one or 100 of them. Just not for sale, must be for your own use. Making a gun for someone else would make you a manufacturer and need a Type 7 FFL. They would need to ban blueprints and STL files of gun receivers too. A CNC milling machine uses "flies from the web" also.

    https://www.atf.gov/firearms/q...
    ATF FAQs
    Does an individual need a license to make a firearm for personal use?
    No, a license is not required to make a firearm solely for personal use. However, a license is required to manufacture firearms for sale or distribution. The law prohibits a person from assembling a non–sporting semiautomatic rifle or shotgun from 10 or more imported parts, as well as firearms that cannot be detected by metal detectors or x–ray machines. In addition, the making of an NFA firearm requires a tax payment and advance approval by ATF.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(o), (p) and (r); 26 U.S.C. 5822; 27 CFR 478.39, 479.62 and 479.105]

  6. Re:Another judge legislating from the bench by wizkid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The judge says you can't download the files from defense distributed The files are readily available.

    Along with the spec's for a AR15. But those are legal because they're not in cad format. For someone who's worked a c&c lathe, that's not a big obstacle.

    An all plastic gun is already illegal to have. They are supposed to set off metal detectors. IIRC 10 years federal, same as an unlicensed machine gun/guided missile.

    And these guns do have a metal firing pin, so they are legal from this argument.

    It is not illegal to make a gun. It's illegal to make a gun and sell it.. But, what if you make the gun, use it for 20 years, give it to your son, and he sells it?

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  7. Re:Another judge legislating from the bench by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    They'll use the Commerce Clause again.

    They'll say "since you manufactured it yourself, you therefore didn't buy it from someone else, and so thus you've influenced interstate commerce." They made that argument in 1942 with a guy growing wheat to feed his animals, and won.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn