After Court Order, 3D-Printed Gun Pioneer Now Sells Pay-What-You-Want CAD Files (arstechnica.com)

CaptainDork writes: In a surprising announcement, Defense Distributed founder Cody Wilson announced Tuesday that while he would continue to comply with a federal court order forbidding him from internationally publishing CAD files of firearms, he would also begin selling copies of his 3D-printed gun files for a "suggested price" of $10 each. The files, crucially, will be transmitted to customers "on a DD-branded flash drive" in the United States and won't be available as downloads.

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I have no issue with this

[oldgraybeard]

Trying to hide knowledge never protected anyone from anything.

Just my 2 cents ;)

Yep - he is

[Okian Warrior]

What a Patriot. I'll bet he going to be protecting our freedoms real soon now.

Actually, he pretty-much is.

You don't see that because you're on the other side of the issue, on the side of speech you don't like.

We often say that freedom of speech means freedom for others to say things we don't like.

You don't like it, I get that.

Do you believe in free speech or do you believe in suppression of speech?

Re: Yep - he is

[DRJlaw]

Just about all of them, I can't list every single way nor am I 'rooting' either way. There's no explicit right to manufacture your own firearms, never was. Read it again Sam. And they meant muskets, militias, as initially written.

It's simply not the case that there are no restrictions on firearms manufacturing because of the 2nd amendment, though some would like to espouse that for their existing ideology. That's new law that doesn't exist yet.

Well then it's a good thing that this is only information about how to manufacture firearms, and it's governed by old law that says: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Wrong amendment, Buckaroo.

Re:Yep - he is

[blindseer]

What about my right to bear nuclear weapons? Isn't the government suppressing my rights by not selling me nukes?

This is a First Amendment issue. This is about the right to "keep and bear" documents and information. If you want the schematics on building a nuclear weapon then you can certainly find them on the internet, at your local library, and in book stores. If you want schematics on building a machine gun then I know where you can get them, the United States Patent Office. They also have schematics on building a handgun far more durable than what Defense Distributed is offering. This whole case is quite silly and it appears Cody Wilson is enjoying his 15 minutes of fame from it.

There's laws on building nuclear weapons, and on building handguns. This case is not about building either of those, these laws were not being challenged.

Re: Yep - he is

[DRJlaw]

It's not really a First Amendment issue though.

Why can't you shout "fire" in a theatre?

Censorious trope two. Who says that you can't shout "fire" in a theater, especially when it's true?

The Pentagon Papers case did not allow for suppression of true information where the consequences of that speech were "dire." The Federal government agreed that this information was not within the scope of ITAR and that it could not prohibit publication. The judge in issuing this very injunction admitted that "Regulation under the AECA means that the files cannot be uploaded to the internet, but they can be emailed, mailed, securely transmitted, or otherwise published within the United States."

Note: personally I support DD here, I'm just refuting the argument that it's a simple 1st Amendment issue.

Then why are you attempting to justify the outrage here using exception-to-the-first-amendment arguments?

Re:Yep - he is

[DRJlaw]

Can I get a recipe complete with required equipment list for the manufacture of LSD or methamphetamine off the internet too since all information is just so legal now?

Yes, you can. Or would you prefer detailed instructions direct from the U.S. government?

The preferred method is:

An alkali metal, preferably sodium, is oxidized with ferric nitrate in liquid ammonia to form the alkali metal amide, e.g. sodium amide. The dry acid H is added and after a few minutes the resulting alkali metal salt is mixed with the desired organic halogen compound R Hal. 2 to 10, preferably 3 to 5 atoms of alkali metal and 2 to mols, preferably 4 to 6 mols of the organic halogen compound are used per mol of acid.

The ammonia may be evaporated a few minutes after addition of the organic halogen compound. To isolate the compound I the reaction mixture is shaken between Water and ether and the aqueous phase filtered through a tale layer. The procedure which is then followed depends on the acid and the organic halogen compound used. The isolation of l-methyl-D-lysergic acid in pure, crystalline form is particularly simple, it being sufficient for the aqueous solution to be brought to a pH value of 4.5 to 5 with acetic acid. Otherwise, the aqueous solution may be evaporated to dryness and methanol poured over the dry residue, the inorganic salts and the small quantity of l-methyl-isolysergic acid present going into solution and the l-methyl-D-lysergic acid remaining undissolved.

HowStuffWorks provides another helpful description. Quick, call the police, because I've posted a mass of not-illegal information right here...

Re:I have no understanding of this, FTFY

[Anonymous Coward]

Everyone should have access to chemical/biological/nuclear weapons tech

We already do. Check out your local college library.

In this case, the 2nd Amendment is being stretched well beyond its original intent

Quite the opposite. The intent was to allow citizens to own military hardware. Remember the first US Navy ships were privately owned, cannons and all.

the supporters ... we still have law and order to maintain ... Nobody is being realistically oppressed ... ridiculous an argument

Leave tribalism to baboons. Humans have moved on and the wise among us have decided certain rights are necessary to retain every other right.