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Like Smartphone Vendors, Laptop OEMs Are Increasingly Moving To Near Bezel-Less Displays (theverge.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: In the past few years, IFA has become a laptop show. It may not be the place where companies like Apple or Microsoft show off their flashiest hardware, but when it comes to the midrange, workhorse laptops that dominate the shelves at Best Buy and desks at schools, IFA is where you'll find them. That's why it's so interesting that there's been what feels like an overnight revolution in laptop screens at this year's show: bezels are dead, and IFA killed them. [...] Now, that wave is coming to laptops: Acer's Swift 7 and Swift 5, Asus' new ZenBook line, Lenovo's updated Yoga laptops, and even Dell's midrange Inspiron computers are all getting their screen borders whittled down. These new laptops are pushing the screen-to-body ratio higher than ever: the Swift 5 is 87.6 percent screen, while the newly teased Swift 7 checks in at 92 percent. And Asus' ZenBooks feature a new ErgoLift hinge design, which is (in theory) to improve typing, but it also cleverly hides the lower bezel so that Asus can claim it's up to 95 percent screen.

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  1. This can't happen soon enough. by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It drives me absolutely nuts that Apple is reportedly implementing bezel-less displays on every device BUT the one they should have done it on FIRST.

    • I don't want a bezel-less cell phone, because that makes it hard to hold without covering part of the screen and accidentally triggering things.
    • I don't want a bezel-less tablet, because that makes it hard to hold without covering part of the screen and accidentally triggering things.
    • I DO want a bezel-less tablet, because I hold it by the keyboard part, so a bezel-less design could improve the screen size without reducing usability even slightly.
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    1. Re: This can't happen soon enough. by Carewolf · · Score: 2

      You appently cared, does people not stepping in line piss you off?

      What are you, a nazi sheep?

    2. Re:This can't happen soon enough. by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      D'oh. Typo. I meant laptop.

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    3. Re:This can't happen soon enough. by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 2

      I don't want a bezel-less cell phone, because that makes it hard to hold without covering part of the screen and accidentally triggering things.
              I don't want a bezel-less tablet, because that makes it hard to hold without covering part of the screen and accidentally triggering things.
              I DO want a bezel-less tablet, because I hold it by the keyboard part, so a bezel-less design could improve the screen size without reducing usability even slightly.

      ^^^^^^^^ THIS, times a million billion.

      Stop with the bezel-less bullshit. Pretty soon they'll have to ship their new shiny shit with a handle on the back because you won't be able to hold the fucking thing any other way.

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  2. news that matters? by iggymanz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    *yawn* this is the kind of crap I'd expect to see on typical consumer electronics fanboy site

    for something the size of a laptop screen there comes the point where the exact thinness of the bezel really doesn't matter; we've past that point in a prior year

    1. Re:news that matters? by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 2

      Well, that can depend.

      I work remotely. When I started a few years back, the company sent me a couple of Dell displays. Nothing too fancy, they do the job fine. No big deal. I was recently at the company offices (which they just recently redesigned) and they have brand new bezel-less Dell displays on the desks.

      I really liked it when working with external displays. And I'd imagine I'd like it even more if my laptop were bezel-less to go along with those displays.

      No, I don't think it makes any difference in a measurable way--it just looks better.

  3. One side effect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We all look forward to the camera that looks up your nose. So keep it clean!

  4. such a shame... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What a nice new laptop and now even more fragile device you got there.

    Such a shame if it were to get so easily damaged and you didn't purchase our extended expensive warranty from one of our inconvenient authorized repair shops.

    So frustrating would that be, so frustrating would that be.

  5. Increases screen size to fit in your bag by tepples · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A smaller bezel means the laptop is physically less bulky for a given screen size. This means you can carry a 11.6" laptop as easily as an older 10.1" laptop, or carry a 13" laptop as easily as an older 11.6" laptop. (Granted, it also means less space for rechargeable batteries.) Conversely, it increases the screen size of a laptop that fits in a given bag.

    1. Re: Increases screen size to fit in your bag by tysonedwards · · Score: 2

      The bezels on a the current generation MacBook Pro 13 are 1.3 inches on a 13.3 inch display. By reducing the bezel sizes to that of the current generation Dell XPS 13, one could fit a 14.1 inch display in the same external housing dimensions. Yes, it is mere millimeters, but they do add up.

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  6. screen ratio more then bezels by xlyz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    while it's nice that thin bezels help to keep the size down having a 4:3 or at least a 16:10 screen ratio would be a much better improvement

    1. Re:screen ratio more then bezels by phalse+phace · · Score: 2

      Definitely prefer a 16:10 aspect ratio to 16:9.

      And instead of shrinking the body of laptops down to match the size of the new bezel-less display, I'd prefer that they keep the body size from the previous bezeled display model and just give us a larger bezel-less display because when they shrink the body size, we end up getting less of other things too: less battery life, less ports, smaller cramped keyboards, etc.

  7. Re:Not really surprised by Z00L00K · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Until you crack the display from a simple bump.

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  8. Why? by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2

    What is so great about bezel-less? What is the functional improvement?

    1. Re:Why? by QuietLagoon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ... Think about it. "damn I wish this screen was smaller" ...

      I have thought about it. For me a slightly larger bag is far less expensive than the purchase of a new shiny object. The "I don't want a larger bag" seems to me more like you're trying to find a justification, any justification, to buy a new shiny object. :) But that's just me.

  9. Re:What for? by rl117 · · Score: 2

    "Tougher" means little. Materials are strong, or hard (Mohs), but rarely both. Making glass harder makes it more likely to shatter if there's an impact. It's more likely to crack. Which is why you see so many people around with crazed screens. It's true that a lot of engineering effort has gone into improving glass, but it's still a terrible compromise. Glass is a poor material for covering a solid object which needs to withstand impacts with hard objects.

  10. Closer and closer to bricks of epoxy by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We seem to be moving inexorably towards devices that are just solid bricks that you toss in the trash when they stop working, and away from things that are serviceable. If we had Federation-style replicators that can recycle them as energy and make you a new one, great, but we don't, it's wasteful, and it's stupid.

  11. 2mm thinner phone, in my inch-thick OtterBox by raymorris · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I just HAVE to buy a new $800 phone so it'll get rid of the 2mm bezel. Can't have 2mm around the screen before I put it in the big ass OtterBox case.

  12. Bezels and screen ratio are interlinked by Solandri · · Score: 2

    If you have bezels, 16:9 to 16:10 ends up being the best ratio. If you look at a page of a paperback book, the area of the printed text is about 16:9 (portrait) or even 2:1. The surrounding margins bump it up to about a 3:2 ratio. Same for a printed page. The printed area of A4 ends up about 16:10, while the printed area of a letter-sized page is about 3:2. These are the aspect ratios the publishing industry has settled on as optimal for reading and viewing after hundreds of years of trial and error. It's only after you add in the margins that you get a 4:3 aspect ratio. Books and magazines whose text area is close to a 4:3 aspect ratio is typically broken up into two columns, because that aspect ratio is not optimal for displaying text (it's too broad or too squat).

    So on devices like tablets and phones, the bezels substitute as a margin, and the best aspect ratio for the screen ends up being around 16:10. The 4:3 aspect ratio on the iPad is only best if you waste valuable screen space displaying blank margins on the screen. Why do that when you can just use the bezels to substitute as your margins? (Incidentally, margins are useful for holding pages in a book. But they were really invented so the page edges deteriorating over time and being eaten by bookworms wouldn't result in the loss of printed material.)

    But as you move towards smaller bezels, suddenly you're forced to display margins on the screen so text and images don't get covered up by the hand holding the device. And the 3:2 and 4:3 aspect ratios become better.