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DOJ To Announce Charges Against North Koreans For Sony Hack, Wannacry Attack (go.com)

The Justice Department is planning to announce charges Thursday against North Korean nationals who U.S. authorities have accused of being behind the massive hack of Sony in 2014 and the Wannacry ransomware attack lack year. From a report: Earlier on Thursday, President Donald Trump praised North Korean ruler Kim Jong Un on Twitter. "Kim Jong Un of North Korea proclaims 'unwavering faith in President Trump.' Thank you to Chairman Kim. We will get it done together!" Trump tweeted. The Washington Post adds: Pak Jin Hyok, who conducted hacking on behalf of North Korea's Reconnaissance General Bureau, the military intelligence agency that controls most of the country's cyber capabilities, is charged in the attack on Sony, according to U.S. officials. He is linked to the notorious Lazarus Group, which has also been implicated in the audacious attempt to use cyber techniques to steal $1 billion from the Bangladesh Bank in 2016, and to the WannaCry computer virus that affected more than 230,000 computers in 150 countries last year.

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  1. Re: Trump colluding with Kim? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because slashdot is all politics now

  2. Just curious by ArhcAngel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Will the DOJ be pressing charges against Sony for installing a rootkit on its customers machines?

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    1. Re:Just curious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YES, PLEASE!

      And those responsible for Stuxnet?

    2. Re:Just curious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stuxnet did not harm U.S. citizens. Sony rootkit harmed countless U.S. citizens.

  3. Your Trump related pull quote has nothing to do with the story.

    1. Re:Huh? by The+Relentless · · Score: 1

      If you don't reference Trump your story is not fit to post nowadays.

    2. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He needed to find some way to dogwhistle for his usual batch of polititrolls. Except this time, the whistle is broken and everyone can hear it, not just the rabid purebreds.

    3. Re:Huh? by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      Your Trump related pull quote has nothing to do with the story.

      I believe the argument is that, considering the total control that the DPRK government has on internet access (very few people even get intranet access, much less internet), any attack done by a North Korean actor has to be state sanctioned and therefore is direct evidence that the Kim regime is still acting against Western companies and states, despite claims to the contrary.

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    4. Re:Huh? by anegg · · Score: 1

      The Trump-related quote is in the ABC News article. You are right, it appears to have nothing to do with the story. But ABC News put it in there for some reason.

    5. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your Trump related pull quote has nothing to do with the story.

      I would argue that while Trump and Kim are having their Twitter bromance, and the DOJ is about to file charges against North Koreans, that it actually has something to do with the story.

      Like Trump finds the timing of indictments 'inconvenient' in terms of mid-terms, he'll likely start bitching in Twitter how holding North Korea to account is bad timing and the DOJ should have held off.

      Never mind that indictments for criminal acts isn't a fucking political thing, it's a crooked politician thing. And that isn't something DOJ is going to sit on to allow seats to be won.

      Disturbingly, Trump is more worried about election outcomes than giving a fuck about the fact that his candidates are breaking the law ... which tells you all you need to know about how Trump views the law.

    6. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your logic would be sound, but the Sony hack was in 2014, prior to all of the current negotiations. These sham lawsuits of Russian and North Korean bad actor are frankly just a sign that the DOJ is trying to make Trump look bad.

      I just hope that the idiots putting these suits together aren't depending on hearsay from a company like the Russian indictment that was proven wrong, and that the DOJ is actually prepared for someone to show up this time. Because when the Russian suit is thrown out, it's going to look pretty bad.

    7. Re:Huh? by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      Your logic would be sound, but the Sony hack was in 2014, prior to all of the current negotiations.

      That is correct, but it demonstrates a pattern. Couple that with other patterns that we've seen come from the DPRK such as vague promises, hollow and bombastic threats (mostly meant for internal consumption than anything else), and posturing and you come to the conclusion that the current "warming" of relations between the current US administration (well, maybe just a handful of individuals in the administration) and the Kim regime is simply more of the same and not destined to last very long or produce anything tangible.

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    8. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "for some reason" is to correlate a 2014 hack and Wannacry attack to the current negotiations and make Trump look like a [bigger] fool.

      There's plenty of crap to ding Trump for, but stroking the ego of a dictator while simultaneously trying to denuclearize said dictator's nation and open it up seems like a righteous act to me and even smart move -- it's exactly what our enemies should be doing to Trump for their own motives. The left's common goal to make everything-Trump look stupid or plainly bad is tiring, and it makes it nearly impossible to sort through the good and bad these days; the fact that the media is actively pulling this stuff on something that could have been driven by facts simply plays into Trump's complaints about harsh media bias with over two thirds of this "article" about the tweet.

    9. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what we always read in Western media. The media tends to follow the same views on international politics and events across different newspapers, TV channels, countries ; in this case the "party line" is that peace talks will fail, are pointless, everything will go back to normal. I think they don't want to lose their cartoon villain, and the weapons manufacturers don't either.
      They never were able to preach for war against the DPRK, due to the danger to the world economy of a war.

      Can things be different today?
      The country has got a new leader this time, a millennial known for playing basketball and the Playstation 1 as a teen. Other things are different from decades past.

    10. Re:Huh? by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but to be fair Trump very well could have said exactly that when asked about this specific issue. He just tends to ignore the question and say whatever it is that he wants to say.

    11. Re:Huh? by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      Can things be different today? The country has got a new leader this time, a millennial known for playing basketball and the Playstation 1 as a teen. Other things are different from decades past.

      Well, he executed his uncle, had someone shot with an anti-aircraft cannon for falling asleep at a meeting, and his father was well known to like foreign films/tv and of course a big buyer of foreign liquor/food. So pretty much new boss, same as the old boss.

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  4. Re:Trump colluding with Kim? by anegg · · Score: 2

    I'm not sure why the parent post was marked down. The entire article from ABC news is cryptic, which could lead one to wonder about meaning, never mind motive:

    The Justice Department is planning to announce charges Thursday against North Korean nationals who U.S. authorities have accused of being behind the massive hack of Sony in 2014 and the Wannacry ransomware attack lack year, sources told ABC News. Earlier on Thursday, President Donald Trump praised North Korean ruler Kim Jong Un on Twitter. "Kim Jong Un of North Korea proclaims 'unwavering faith in President Trump.' Thank you to Chairman Kim. We will get it done together!" Trump tweeted.

    What is ABC trying to say with the quote from Trump embedded in the article about the DOJ pursuing charges against the North Korean nationals? Is ABC News pointing out that Trump is working with Kim Jong Un to bring the criminals to justice? Is ABC News making the point that Trump is out of step with the DOJ?

  5. Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by Stan92057 · · Score: 1

    Why is the US justice doing this? Sony in NOT a US corporation.

    Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational conglomerate corporation headquartered in Knan, Minato, Tokyo.

    why the hell is the us justice system even touching this? That,s Japans job not ours. Why is the US justice system spending US taxpayer money protecting a foreign corporation?????

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    1. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Why is the US justice doing this? Sony in NOT a US corporation.
      Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational conglomerate corporation headquartered in Knan, Minato, Tokyo.

      Sony Corporation of America (SCA), parent corporation of Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCE), is based in New York, and SCE's subsidiary Sony Interactive Entertainment LLC (SIE) is based in San Mateo. HTH, HAND!

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    2. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fairness, I thought the same thing, but the attack was on the US-based Sony entity because they were hacking it in response for the release of the comedy that mocked North Korea.

      I assume the entire purpose of this suit is to make it look like the DOJ is doing something, and to make Trump look bad. I expect that they probably have about as much evidence to prove that it was North Korea (and the named defendants specifically) as the Russian hacking case, which is to say not much. I can only hope that the DOJ doesn't end up looking like fools again when lawyers actually shows up to defend them.

    3. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by jd · · Score: 1

      It was an attack on a server on US soil, in violation of US law. The DoJ is supposed to take attacks on US soil seriously, it's kinda in their job description. Who was attacked is irrelevant. US law applies on US soil, whether or not the victim was American, British, Japanese or a small blue furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

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    4. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      And those are subsidiaries of Sony Corporation which is a Japanese corporation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Jackass.

    5. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      Were those servers on US soil? Just because a subsidiary is domiciled in the US does not mean their servers are.

      Location matters for jurisdiction purposes.

    6. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      And those are subsidiaries of Sony Corporation which is a Japanese corporation.

      You asked the question, I answered it. If you find the answer to be too complicated, perhaps Slashdot is not for you.

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    7. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just had to add "jackass" to your comment to show how stupid you are. Couldn't help yourself. Impulse control - ever heard of it? - ever practise it?

    8. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      I didn't ask the question, Stan92057 did. Perhaps reading comprehension is too much for you.

    9. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I didn't ask the question, Stan92057 did. Perhaps reading comprehension is too much for you.

      I'm not going to go back and see if some douchebag is the same douchebag I was replying to in the first place, if they sound just like the first douchebag. That information is not displayed when viewing a comment directly.

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    10. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by Stan92057 · · Score: 1

      IMO they were attacking Sony,They should also be going after Sony as well because at that time their security was well below industry standards. They are the reason they got hacked. But ya, we should go after whoever attacked us citizens but we should not be doing this for Sony as it sure looks like to me. What your say is if Sony decided to put all there servers on us soil WE are responsible for any one who attacks them well that's a bunch of hoowee. Anyone who get in financial trouble should have gone after SONY that's my thinking anyways cant count on my government to actually protect US but sure will protect a foreign companys interests first. Hell Wall street should have penalized N Korea too.

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    11. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not going to go back and see if some douchebag is the same douchebag I was replying to in the first place, if they sound just like the first douchebag.

      What about the two other posters make them appear to douchebags to you? Honest question, or does that make me a douchebag too?

      That information is not displayed when viewing a comment directly.

      That's why I use tabs in my browser to open up multiple posts. It takes like 2 seconds to check who wrote what throughout a thread. Communication - especially on the Internet - is a lot more difficult than it seems, so I do take some care when engaging (and even then people will make mistakes)

      Not trying to be a douchebag to imply that you're too stupid to figure this out yourself or that your'e just too lazy to do it or anything... ;p

    12. Re: Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they haven't figured out how to add a sig to their posts.

    13. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about the two other posters make them appear to douchebags to you? Honest question, or does that make me a douchebag too?

      Because it's a stupid question to be asking. Everyone who reads slashdot should have already known this is about Sony Corporation of America, which is an American company (doesn't matter who actually "owns" it). That's how corporations work.

      If a Sony division in Japan got hacked, then it would be in Japan's court. Same if a Japanese division of an American company was hacked. That would go to Japan as well.

      COMMON SENSE PEOPLE!!

    14. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And those are subsidiaries of Sony Corporation which is a Japanese corporation.

      Exactly, that's why the US justice department is bringing suit for the subsidiary... Because it is a subsidiary.

      You make your statement as if you believe a parent corporation is fully legally responsible for its subsidiaries or something, when the entire point of a subsidiary is to separate the two entities legally as much as possible.

      The US has jurisdiction over any corporate entity, including subsidiaries, based in the US.

    15. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by jd · · Score: 1

      Yes, the servers were in the U.S., that's been discussed to death.

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    16. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by jd · · Score: 1

      Sony's security was indeed below standards. And if Congress got its act together, it would be a criminal offence for those responsible, with a revocation of the business license on the third offence.

      I have no problems with that. Criminal acts should be prosecuted and substandard security should be a criminal act. Banks aren't allowed to store your money in shoe boxes on the open street, this is no different.

      Sony's reporting was slow and dishonest. These should be two distinct criminal offenses and should be part of the three strikes. Rootkits and viruses in products that could spark retaliatory strikes should also be criminal offenses.

      Sony really would not be doing any better than the hackers, if I got to make the rules. Maybe worse.

      My prior concern is that the U.S. is a nation of laws. There are police, investigative bureaus and prosecutorial departments for a reason and that reason isn't for amusement.

      In this case, the attackers committed an indisputable offence against US criminal code and they should be pursued on those merits through proper investigation and then through the courts in a way designed to ensure justice - as opposed to revenge - is done.

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    17. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by Stan92057 · · Score: 1

      I don't disagree with a word you say.

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    18. Re:Sony Corporation is a Japanese multinational by buravirgil · · Score: 1

      In a word: Shareholders ...America's "interests" are globally framed, beginning with Tripoli, expanded and fluidly emphasized. As far as a legal standing...another poster listing Sony's subsidiaries has basis. As far as popular appeal? It's Hollywood we're talking about!

      Yet I agree discriminating transnational corporations from domestic politics is not a difference other multinationals are incentivized to present rationally when media market shares are more important.

      I disagree with posters asserting ABC's reportage is reasonable which conflates (purposefully or not) partisan, personality politics with issues of trade and national security. An insistence the stalemate of war games is preferable to trade and diplomacy is recklessly hawkish and demonstrably FUD given cyber attacks are economic and Stuxnet disabled a nuclear payload for the "rocket man".

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  6. Two funny coincidences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First coincidence was the indictment of a dozen Russians who were not even on US soil the day after the Trump-Putin conference in Helsinki.

    Now the DOJ attempts to indict North Koreans the day after North Korea agrees to nuclear disarmament.

    Is this a real pattern here, or am I just seeing things? If it is a pattern, why is it a pattern?

  7. Re:Trump colluding with Kim? by jd · · Score: 1

    They're suggesting that Trump hasn't bothered to listen to anything the DoJ have said (they would have briefed him over the past few days). They're implying that the DoJ's announcement will cause diplomatic headaches for Trump, as it will hurt his credibility at home and with the North Korean government.

    However, rather more importantly, they're stating that there is a relationship in time between two otherwise unconnected events.

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  8. Re:US thinking its the policeman of the world agai by jd · · Score: 1

    What does that matter? The US has a responsibility for its citizens on any soil and for events on its soil regardless of the citizenship of those affected.

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  9. Wait isn't NK a poor hermit kingdom?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet they have the software and internet to hack the US and India?

    Come on now.. you're either dirt poor farmers or uber leet hackers. You can't do both.

    1. Re:Wait isn't NK a poor hermit kingdom?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most of the population are poor but families and people useful to the regime have more luxuries. This is why economic sanctions doesn't work. It'll only starve and cause suffering to the regular people and not the elites who are loyal to the dictator.

    2. Re:Wait isn't NK a poor hermit kingdom?? by 0dugo0 · · Score: 1

      They can't even run their propaganda websites and DNS infrastructure on decent servers. This is all for show, there is no expectation NK is going to extradite anyone.

    3. Re:Wait isn't NK a poor hermit kingdom?? by PingSpike · · Score: 1

      I mean, they hacked Sony not the Pentagon. IIRC there was a large word document on the server with all the passwords involved in this breech. So the difficulty level of the hack was probably somewhere between that of breaking your neighbor's WEP secured wifi and falling off a log.

  10. Re:US thinking its the policeman of the world agai by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

    It matters moron because these people can't be extradited. So this is theater, this is just for show. Get a fucking clue.

  11. And yet.... by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

    "New evidence Sony hack was ‘inside’ job, not North Korea" https://nypost.com/2014/12/30/...

    New Research Blames Insiders, Not North Korea, for Sony Hack http://time.com/3649394/sony-h...

    Researcher: Sony Hack Was Likely an Inside Job by a Woman Named "Lena" http://gawker.com/researcher-s...



    So no boys and girls this was not North Korea. This is an attempt by the Military Industrial Complex to gin up tensions with North Korea in order to prevent detente. Because you know war is profitable but peace is not. Stocks for military contracts took a tumble when the US was negotiating with North Korea.

    1. Re:And yet.... by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Maybe Kim sent someone over to do the job because he wanted to know what was going to be in the next Grand Theft Auto?

    2. Re:And yet.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ding ding ding!!!! We have a winner.

    3. Re: And yet.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it is about time someone mentioned this. Would North Korean leaders really care about a mediocre movie?

  12. Re:US thinking its the policeman of the world agai by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice opinion piece there, but it's not written anywhere into the rule of law. All this is is the US trying to flex. No one cares; the obese nation is rotting internally and has bigger things to worry about. Like the fact that its economy is going to go bust in the near future. Most the idiots in office cant even turn on a computer; the fact that some dinosaurs from the DOJ want to try to "pursue" legal action throughout the world; when the perpetrators are right in front of them is absolutely disgusting. Sue the NSA, disband and destroy them. They should have reported the vulnerability so that this DIDNT happen; the fact that it happened and was the result of the NSA tells you that the real perpetrators are the US intelligence community.

  13. Also charge Microsoft by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    Also charge Microsoft with gross negligence.

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  14. Assassinate Vladimir Putin now! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kill the Satanic monster today!

  15. The Sony Hack is on Sony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sony are the ones who installed rootkits on music CDs. Sony did the hack.

  16. Remember that Wannacry patch signed months before? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of the Microsoft patches specific to patching up Wannacry was finalized and digitally signed with one of Microsoft's keys several months before Wannacry was even happening.

    We know since before that NSA/CIA have copies of Microsoft's keys, and this suggests that Wannacry and patches to fix it up was made by NSA months before, everything to be used to 1) probe global infrastructure and 2) shift the blame on someone else who was on the current agenda.

    You can wringe and excuse all you want, but the fact is that the patch was signed months before the fact. It's a smoking gun, and there's no way you can sweep it under the rug.

  17. We Will Proudly Build Economic Power for Ourselve by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sep. 6, Juche 107 (2018) Thursday

    We Will Proudly Build Economic Power for Ourselves

    It is the fixed will and determination of the Korean people to build a powerful socialist country to be envied by the whole world on this land without fail in the spirit of self-reliance and self-development and by dint of science and technology.

    We did not have an idea of building economy with others’ help.

    We have done all by ourselves on the principle of self-reliance and self-sufficiency to perform world-startling miracles.

    The credit for this is just the single-minded unity of all the service personnel and people and the great spirit of self-reliance and self-development and science and technology.

    The entire army and all the people have struggled in the revolutionary spirit of self-reliance and fortitude, more closely united behind the leader to win victory without any deviation in the face of the sustained vicious sanctions of hostile forces against the DPRK and despite severe ordeals.

    Self-reliance and self-development and science and technology are the life and soul of socialist Korea and the driving force of the leap forward and this is the only road we should take. It is the precious truth proved by the army and people of the DPRK in practice.

    The power of Juche Korea is indeed unfathomable.

    No force can check the advance of our people towards the bright future.

    Final victory is in store for our people going ahead by dint of self-reliance and science and technology.

    Ri Hak Nam

  18. NSA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will the people responsible for discovering the vulnerabilities and letting everybody exposed be charged with anything? Or does the military complex get away with yet another fuck up?