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California Governor Says 100 Percent Clean Electricity Not Enough, State Must Go Carbon Neutral (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: On Monday, California Governor Jerry Brown signed a bill mandating that the state's utilities move to 100-percent zero-emission electricity generation by 2045. Brown also issued an executive order today requiring the state to become carbon neutral by 2045, that is, mandating that the state remove as much greenhouse gas from the atmosphere as it puts into the atmosphere. One of the most interesting aspects of the zero-emissions bill signed today is that it also specifies that California can't increase the carbon emissions of another state to get cheap electricity. It appears that buying electricity from a coal plant in Nevada is fine if that electricity had been supplied prior to the bill's passing, but seeking out new out-of-state natural gas-fired plants to buy from would not be allowed. The bill's ambitiousness is compounded by the executive order that Gov. Brown signed today. The order requires California to become carbon neutral by 2045. "The achievement of carbon neutrality will require both significant reductions in carbon pollution and removal of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, including sequestration in forests, soils, and other natural landscapes," Brown's executive order states (PDF).
State must go Paleo.
Then stop burning all your forests.
> They're called "trees"
I think they're hoping for a slightly less... flammable solution.
=Smidge=
Their educational system isn't that bad once you take out some outlying mismanaged districts.
It's not that bad as long as you don't count the bad parts?
Ah, you work in government, I see.
We cannot do this economically, just like we cannot operate nuclear reactors economically.
Irrelevant. Irrelevant political bullshit.
If the problem of global warming is driving people to expensive energy in the form of wind and sun then we can afford to use nuclear power. If you want to bring capitalism into this then let's do that. Make a true "all the above" energy policy that opens up development for wind, solar, nuclear, or whatever, and have them compete for money on the open market. If people want unreliable solar and wind then let them buy it. If people are willing to spend a bit more for reliable nuclear power then let them do it. Given time I can expect every one to get cheaper from more research and development.
Bringing up the costs of nuclear power is a bullshit excuse. It's as cheap as wind and solar but far more reliable. Add in the costs of storage needed for wind and solar to make them reliable and nuclear starts looking real cheap. No, cost is not an issue. That's a bullshit excuse if we can afford solar and wind.
Is global warming a problem or not? If it is then spend the money to solve it. I've seen engineers show the costs of building a nuclear power plant. The materials, labor, land, and all other costs are the same for nuclear as it is for coal, except one. That one overriding cost to prevent nuclear from owning the market is regulatory. Fix the political BULLSHIT and make nuclear economical. The costs for new nuclear power has been effectively infinite because the government refused to issue operating licenses. Issue licenses and the costs come down.
This is all bullshit. This is all politics. And I am simply tired of all the excuses. There is no excuse, only BULLSHIT!
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