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Before It Was Hacked, Equifax Had a Different Fear: Chinese Spying (wsj.com)

Two years before Equifax stunned the world with the announcement it had been hacked, the credit-reporting company believed it was the victim of another theft, only this time at the hands of Chinese spies, WSJ reported Wednesday. From the report: In the previously undisclosed incident, security officials feared that former employees had removed thousands of pages of proprietary information before leaving and heading to jobs in China. Materials included code for planned new products, human-resources files and manuals. Equifax went to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Central Intelligence Agency. Investigators from the company and the FBI came to view events at Equifax as potentially a huge theft of data -- not of consumers' personal data, as happened with the subsequent 2017 hacking of Equifax's files, but of confidential business information. Equifax security officials briefed the then-chief executive, Richard Smith, at a fall 2015 meeting, spreading high stacks of paper across the length of the boardroom table. The voluminous printouts represented what they feared was stolen. Adding to suspicions, the Chinese government had recently asked eight companies to help it build a national credit-reporting system. At one point, Equifax grew so worried it began building a way to monitor the computer activity of all of its ethnic-Chinese employees, according to people familiar with the investigation. The resource-heavy project, which raised legal concerns internally, was short-lived.

47 comments

  1. So just like... by hackingbear · · Score: 2
    1. Re:So just like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was the times of war!
      If today is similar spying and done by China, US and China are in a trade war for sure then!
      Then maybe Chinese spies of today should be treated the same way spies were treated in those war times!?

  2. Chinese spy and steal, let's face it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Investigating that shouldn't be newsworthy at Equifax, it's a target for both. Doing it incompetently is just par for their course.

  3. Security officials by nwaack · · Score: 0

    "Equifax security officials briefed the then-chief executive, Richard Smith, at a fall 2015 meeting" - wait, what? Equifax has security officials?

    1. Re:Security officials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes they had 2.

    2. Re:Security officials by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      "Equifax security officials briefed the then-chief executive, Richard Smith, at a fall 2015 meeting" - wait, what? Equifax has security officials?

      Yes, for security of their "proprietary" information. Not of the stuff in their primary database (i.e., your information). Their marketing plans, their payrolls, etc. That's what they were protecting.

    3. Re:Security officials by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Protecting, oh no, they were engaged in racist activities selectively targeting any employee Asian looking (what is ethnic Chinese meant to mean) and spying on them. It is a corporation, anyone could have sold it and typically look at the top not the bottom, in fact look right at the person who thought it was a good idea to target Asian looking employees in a racist fashion.

      How much would they have paid, millions, well they only pay that to top because they get lock in (extortion value, high level source and they protect their privacy to hide their corrupt interactions with their own government, enabling the hiding of corrupt interactions with foreign governments, the higher up they are, the reality now stop with the lies, the more corrupt they are likely to be in the modern era).

      Look at the top executives of the corporation and check the offshore tax haven accounts.

      --
      Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
  4. The Chinese are coming! The Chinese are coming! by The+Original+CDR · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The background file for my national security clearance got stolen by the Chinese a few years ago That contained a lot more information than the credit reports that Uncle Sam requested from all three bureaus.

    1. Re:The Chinese are coming! The Chinese are coming! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Mine too. The SF86 thing seems to have been sanitized to the point where it is not compared to these other breaches. My clearance form had my info, wife and children, relatives, etc. Much worse in my opinion.

    2. Re:The Chinese are coming! The Chinese are coming! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    3. Re:The Chinese are coming! The Chinese are coming! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Creimer is... an African-American... and a registered Republican. You Trump supporters crack me up!

    4. Re:The Chinese are coming! The Chinese are coming! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Creimer's new video got an extra 44 views today. You should call him a pedophile more often.

    5. Re:The Chinese are coming! The Chinese are coming! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now 100+ views.

    6. Re:The Chinese are coming! The Chinese are coming! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now 150+ views.

    7. Re:The Chinese are coming! The Chinese are coming! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get my family friendly Goat C shirt! ~ CaptainDork

    8. Re:The Chinese are coming! The Chinese are coming! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice try, Chris. Looks like you managed to change the information. The archived copy I have is accurate!

  5. And then credit sessamie debuts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coincidence?

  6. Well Done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The CIA used Equifax to train the Chinese wrong on purpose! Now we will be able to breach their data whenever necessary!

  7. Nonstory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chinese espionage doesn't matter. The Chinese appear to limit themselves to compromising Democrats (Feinstein) or influencing elections on behalf of Democrats (Clinton fund raising etc.) No one in the establishment and its media care about any of this; the targets and beneficiaries are all "good" people immune to questions. Every time another Chinese spy turns up with the inevitable ties to (D)s it gets a day or so in the news cycle and then it quietly disappears.

    I guess Russia could take a page from all this; back the correct side and forego all the drama.

  8. It wuz haxx0rz! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh noez! De haxx0rz did done de haxx1n!!1!

  9. Yet more commie baiting from the deepstate by najajomo · · Score: 1

    I can remember when this was a technology site, instead of a conduit for neocon waffle.

  10. When Republican faggots lie, they go to prison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Keep talking moron, we have a room for that rent free.

  11. China, NK, Iran ARE still hacking all US companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    China, NK, Iran ARE still hacking US companies, so we all need to be ready. If not today, tomorrow. Expect to be hacked.

    China got my data through the USGovt leaks for clearance information.

  12. No prison time = GUARANTEE for repeat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why should they give a flying F about security, if all they do is pay a stupid fine? Gov response has been a joke. Law enforcement: JOKE. Blatant insider trades prior to announcement, and STILL no prison. Consumers are being a$$ raped in every direction as there is no rule of law left in merica.

  13. Cultural credit rating in China by qubezz · · Score: 1

    Sounds like China stole the technology for their own "social" credit rating, where a bad twitter can bar you from employment and your children from getting into a school.

  14. If I were Chinese, I'd steal secrets too by alternative_right · · Score: 1

    Blood is thicker than politics.

    Your ethnic origin is part of your personal identity, at least for 95% of humanity.

    The USA has fought two proxy wars against Chinese and killed over a million of them.

    If you were Chinese, whose side would you take -- your own, or the global shopping mall the USA?

  15. Re:China, NK, Iran ARE still hacking all US compan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its not hacking if the Chinese were employed by Equifax. Which they probably were. As far as I'm concerned, if your company has any Chinese nationals or immigrants, you should make sure none of them are in positions were they have access to all of your data and programs...or they'll download all of it and drop it off and the nearest Chinese embassy.

    You have been warned.

  16. Why do the Chinese need to steal from Equifax? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They're already the undisputed masters of operating a totalitarian surveillance and control system, these days.

    1. Re:Why do the Chinese need to steal from Equifax? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're already the undisputed masters of operating a totalitarian surveillance and control system, these days.

      When an American white guy steals something or is part of a crime, there is almost sympathy. What went wrong that this guy ended up doing this? When any other race or nationality does it, it's either thugs, terrorists, spies etc.

      On the other hand, we have cases like Aleynikov. He took open source software home. Not only was Goldman Sachs not obeying open source licenses, they actively ruined the life of Aleynikov by tangling him up in all sorts of made up charges.

  17. They were horrified... by mschaffer · · Score: 1

    They were horrified that the Chinese would steal the information because they wanted to sell the information for top dollar.

    1. Re:They were horrified... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, no. This was confidential IP that they based their business on. The secret sauce, so to speak.

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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  19. I'd beware of Natives and anyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    who doesn't worship an american flag. Or those that buy american flag toilet paper.

  20. Why they cashed out stock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Right after We The People heard about the equifax breach there was news about many execs and C-levels exercising stock options.
    The excuse given was that these stock transactions were setup before the breach, so it was ok.

    This possible loss of data to China was probably what started the stock activity.

  21. Re: The Chinese are coming! The Chinese are coming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He is not an African American. He just has really social status. His lack of hygiene is is really high though.