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Quantum Experiment Confirms Causality Is Fuzzy (physicsworld.com)

"An experiment has confirmed that quantum mechanics allows events to occur with no definite causal order," reports an article shared by long-time Slashdot readers UpnAtom and jd. Researchers at the University of Queensland in Australia believe this could link Einstein's general theory of relativity to quantum mechanics, according to Physics World: In classical physics -- and everyday life -- there is a strict causal relationship between consecutive events. If a second event (B) happens after a first event (A), for example, then B cannot affect the outcome of A. This relationship, however, breaks down in quantum mechanics because the temporal spread of a particles's wave function can be greater than the separation in time between A and B. This means that the causal order of A and B cannot be always be distinguished by a quantum particle such as a photon.

In their experiment, Romero, Costa and colleagues created a "quantum switch", in which photons can take two paths. One path involves being subjected to operation A before operation B, while in the other path B occurs before A. The order in which the operations are performed is determined by the initial polarization of the photon as it enters the switch.... The team did the experiment using several different types of operation for A and B and in all cases they found that the measured polarization of the output photons was consistent with their being no definite causal order between when A and B was applied. Indeed, the measurements backed indefinite causal order to a whopping statistical significance of 18 -- well beyond the 5 threshold that is considered a discovery in physics.

Science Magazine applauds the experiments for "obliterating our common sense notion of before and after and, potentially, muddying the concept of causality.

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  1. Unpaywalled version by N7DR · · Score: 5, Informative
  2. T violation and Zitterbewegung by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why do we assume we only move forward in time? We move forward and backward in all the other dimensions, why assume we aren't oscillating back and forth in time? What difference would that make if we were? How would we know?

    Physics is not invariant under time reversal and we can unambiguously determine if time were suddenly reversed. Note that this is not related to entropy e.g. a shattered plate would not leap off the floor and reassemble itself if time were reversed this is far more fundamental than that.

    Oscillations of kaon and B mesons have been shown to violate time-reversal symmetry so, if the "direction" of time were suddenly reversed we would know this because these oscillations would have the opposite bias.

    There is a relativistic quantum behaviour similar to what you describe - called zitterbewegung - but only in space. Essentially electrons can be shown to hypothetically be travelling back and forth at the speed of light but direction biased so that the net movement is in the classical electron's direction at the classical speed.