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It Only Took 37 Seconds For Two Bitcoin 'Celebs' To Start Fighting on a Cruise Ship (mashable.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: The cruise ship wasn't big enough for the both of them. On September 10, somewhere in the Mediterranean, two well-known rivals -- Jimmy Song, a venture partner at Blockchain Capital LLC and Roger Keith Ver, an early investor in bitcoin-related startups and Bitcoin Cash evangelist -- in the cryptocurrency space stood awkwardly poolside. A crowd, sporting a mix of cryptocurrency-themed t-shirts and bikinis, lounged nearby on the ship's upper deck. One man, sweatpants sloshing in the water, steadied a tripod. The Bitcoin versus Bitcoin Cash debate was about to begin. It only took 37 seconds to spiral out of control.

It was perhaps to be expected that the debate wouldn't go smoothly, but just how quickly it went off the rails surprised even those in attendance. Song, cowboy hat atop his head and microphone in hand, attempted to introduce the format of the event -- a "Lincoln-Douglas style debate" -- but was soon interrupted by Ver. Shouts of "no Roger" emanated from the crowd, as Ver told the audience to "calm down." It quickly spun out from there, with Song repeatedly telling Ver to "sit down" as Ver angled for the microphone. "Do you want to debate me or not," Song demanded. "OK then sit down," he repeated as he stood behind the podium. Bickering over whether or not Ver would get a one-minute introduction before the official start of the debate continued on, with Song addressing the crowd and Ver shouting at the top of his lungs. They heatedly yelled over each other as the crowd jeered. Three minutes had passed, and things were not going well. And then someone handed Ver a mic. You better believe Song wasn't having that, and so he stormed offstage saying he was "refusing to do the debate." Finally with the stage all to himself, Ver attempted to speak but was immediately shouted down by an angry, shirtless man yelling from the pool. And that's all just the first five minutes. The video is over 40 minutes long.

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  1. Re:Who are we to judge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In my judgement, Bitcoin Cash BCH is still the better coin to date and suitable for continuing commercial use over near term 1-3 year future... low fees, fast, decentralized... that's a good set.
    BCH is closest to the original whitepaper, AND since all coins naturally evolve after their first release, BCH is properly exploring and taking a less complex, simple and natural path to scalability.

    Whereas Bitcoin Core BTC is developing all sorts of crazy new protocols to try to scale.
    Crazy new protocols and sidecoins are in fact fine, but ONLY if other simpler means have been exhausted first. That hasn't happened yet.

    The simple fact is that the formerly anarchic voluntary libertarian BTC of old has sold themselves out to centralized sidecoin forces for profit and control. That's what lightning is. And that's what humans do when they are unable to hold themselves to higher philosophies of non control. That's bad and BTC will thus die a slow death as people migrate to more free choices.

    BCH did the simplest first and obvious evolution of raising the blocksize, duhr.
    And I'm looking forward to what other distributed decentralized scaling mechanisms they come up with.

    However long term, 5+ years out... for ANY coin to succeed, it will need to not only be fully decentralized and free from control, fast to within a few minutes or less, with fees at or below credit card levels.... but ALSO fully cryptographically encrypted and privacy coins using the likes of Zero Knowledge Proofs. Because right now nearly ALL coins are completely non-financially private and open to all controls and dataminers... that's a terrible loss from even fiat cash.

    ZKP strong cryptographically private coins like Zcash ZEC, Zencash ZEN, Bitcoin Private BTCP, etc are the ONLY option for the coming cryptocurrency clash with fiat. If you don't have the choice to keep your transactions private, you're going to be monitored, reported, taxed and blocked off the net straight back to fiat stone age.

    ps: Monero XMR is not a cryptographically strong privacy coin, it just got shilled into the darkweb market scene by Anti Forces and was thus *believed* to be private and non analyzable by the drug addled retards therein. Monero is nowhere near as strongly private as ZKP is, for example ZEC. Monero also cannot scale due to requiring tons of space just to perform its false privacy claims.