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Southern California Sees Its Longest Streak of Bad Air In Decades (sfchronicle.com)
According to state monitoring data, Southern California violated federal smog standards for 87 consecutive days -- the longest stretch of bad air in at least 20 years. "The streak is the latest sign that Souther California's battle against smog is faltering after decades of dramatic improvement," reports San Francisco Chronicle. From the report: The ozone pollution spell began June 19 and continued through July and August, with every day exceeding the federal health standard of 70 parts per billion somewhere across Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside and San Bernardino counties. It didn't relent until Sept. 14, when air pollution dipped to "moderate" levels within federal limits for ozone, the lung-damaging gas in smog that triggers asthma and other respiratory illnesses. It's not unusual for Southern California summers to go weeks without a break in the smog, especially in inland communities that have long suffered the nation's worst ozone levels. But environmentalists and health experts say the persistence of dirty air this year is a troubling sign that demands action. Regulators blame the dip in air quality in recent years on hotter weather and stronger, more persistent inversion layers that trap smog near the ground.
I hope it kills everyone there.
All the fires they've had this year made things worse too.
And they'll use it to fine gross polluters dumping their trash in the atmosphere and hopefully bit by bit put them out of business and into a better one. Yep. It's nice to see even Republicans can grasp basic concepts like this.
Then all the human feces spread all over the place can fuse with the floating plastic trash pile through the miracle heat of the fact that California is always on fire and the world will be better off
Tax the air until it complies with federal standards. That will teach it.
Probably that jackass with the smoke stacks coming out of the bed of his diesel truck.
Iâ(TM)m gonna vote trump and then give you a swirly
...they need to take a bath.
Don't drop your iphone in the toilet, drop your personal integrity into the toilet instead by supporting Trump?
Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside and San Bernardino? That's an area bigger than South Carolina, West Virginia, and 8 other States. For our European friends, that's an area larger than Belgium. So, SOMEWHERE in that area it was above the limits. Yeah, doesn't seem quite so bad now...
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a lot lately?
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Pretty much... I have been in all four counties at least 4 days in the past three months, and never really noticed it especially bad... aside from the feedlot in Ontario. Mostly in the morning, so it would usually be less then, but not especially bad.
I live by the ocean though, so I am not getting it consistently bad; this could skew my perception.
How could there be that much moisture in the air? It's a desert not a rainforest.
every day exceeding the federal health standard of 70 parts per billion somewhere across Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside and San Bernardino counties
Not the ENTIRE area, just somewhere in that area. AC needs to learn to read, rather than spending all that time trying to dream up snarky remarks...
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Let's welcome another 10 million immigrants into CA and see if that improves the air quality.
Not the ENTIRE area, just somewhere in that area.
I wish there was a way to concentrate it right at the Trump apologists.
Pictures of naked girls are overrated. As are you.
My argument is that you're too stupid to understand that ~150 PPM 02 displacement isn't reducing the rate at which fires burn enough to matter compared to the insulating effects warming and drying the climate, you fucking moron.
And you've already proven me correct about that, because you have no science background and that retarded line of thought was the best you could come up with, lol. (QED, go look that up. It's Latin for "you're a moron")
Morons like you are the reason human civilization can't continue in representative governance, you're just too fucking dumb for the species to carry as we are. You literally revel in your retardation.
Learn or die, those are your options. I don't care which you pick, but you've got 10 seconds or I'm deciding for you, for the benefit of mankind.
Retard hour is over. Science will take over from Republican children of pollution now. You are simply too dumb for this job, you blew it.
The standard for O3 changed in 2015, dropping to 70ppb from previous 75 in 2008 and 80 in 1997 and 120 before that. So the headline that Federal standards were exceeded for the longest streak in 20 years is misleading since that standard has not been standard.
Probably a lot of that smog is the result of the huge wildfires that have happened (and probably continuing right now) this year?
Not those entire counties. The stuff west of the mountains and what amounts to the sprawl that is called LA if not from the area. Still a good area but not bigger than states.
The counties extend all the way to Arizona but are still fairly pristine due to being uninhabited desert.
"OMG THEY AVERAGED THE DATA" Congratulations, trashmind GOP retard, you have finally comprehended that most data is averaged. You graduate at the top of your retard denialist party with a D- in basic shit, magna dumb loud.
That doesn't make the air any better for children, seniors, athletes, athsmatics. You're just demonstrating how dumb you are for slashdot, again. Nothing changed.
Meanwhile, the air WAS BAD and your TAPDANCING FAGGOT DENIALIST ACT doesn't actually AFFECT THAT AT ALL, whether or not you actually COMPREHEND what the data says or even look at it.
Which you haven't yet even done, you whiny tapdancing denialist faggot.
So, again, without moving the goalposts, does increased pollution increase oxygen levels?
Just a yes/no answer please
... aside from the feedlot in Ontario.....
I know this place!
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We feel your pain... I live in Ventura, to stay as far away from that lot as I can, and still be in the "greater LA area"...:)
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Federal standards were exceeded for the longest streak in 20 years might be more meaningful if the standards were the same for the last 20 years, which they are not. Current ozone standards of 70 PPB were lowered from 75 in 2015, and again in 2008 and 1997. So it's hard to say if it was actually a long streak on an objective scale or on a moving target. I'm not arguing that standards shouldn't change over time, just when you say it's the worst streak in 20 years based on a "standard" that changes, it's not useful information.
So, again, you're too stupid to be able to comprehend the effect that ~150-200 PPM reduction of 02 does not affect flames at sea level (or any environment really) noticeably. It's measurable in a lab, but insignificantly tiny compared to the effect that raising the temperature or lowering the humidity have on flames and by extension forest fires. The amount of c02, methane and other insulants is very tiny compared to the overall atmospheric composition but because of their IR-reflecting properties even a slight increase to the entire atmospheric composition traps a significant and EXPONENTIALLY INCREASING additional heat, which both dries and warms areas traditionally cooler in the recent epoch and with substantial fuels. Hotter fires also drive faster winds, and all of these drying, heating and blowing effects have a massive effect on actual wildfire intensity and occurrence, as any "red flag" fire warning sign explains even to illiterates like yourself, if you manage to read it. DRY/HOT = FIRE DANGER. Increasing 02 by 150-200 PARTS PER MILLION does not nearly have the same effect. QED, you're a fucking moron. Class dismissed.
Smog is a global problem.
"Somewhere" doesn't mean "87 days of smog in at least one place in at least one of the counties". When the air quality index is bad it tends to be bad over a large area, particularly in the inland valleys. Take a look at this map. On a typical day the coast (except SoCal) will be 'good' while the inland areas and SoCal will be 'moderate' or worse.
The word "somewhere" means that a reading or readings were above the limits, up to the point where the entire area exceeded the limits.
Your SOMEWHERE minimisation is as improper as saying that EVERYWHERE was over the limits.
Were these just single point failures - just one point failed across the whole expanse on any given day? I don't think so.
I have filed you under "those who would snarkily deny a real problem".
How about fixing the problem, so you don't have to reveal your true nature?
so, again, you are gay and dumb
I wish there was a way to concentrate it right at the Trump apologists.
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You should heed your own sig's advice. Trumpers have guns. Lots and lots of guns. And they love any excuse to cap an SJW and watch him bleed out.
Jerry Brown doesn't spend "money" banning straws, industry creates a better way than littering the ocean floor with plastic shit. You're a shit eater by nature, obviously.
Stick your guns into your asshole and pull the trigger, don't coward your way out of war like Trump. You're a faggot, you know nothing about killing lol. Retarded inbred white faggots get shot to death everyday lol.
We are replacing you.
The chemicals concerned (e.g. NOx, O3) have a low lifespan in the atmosphere and so are not going to make the trip across the Pacific. A more interesting question is how much of China's smog is as a result of USA manufacturers moving their production to China.
Stick your guns into your asshole and pull the trigger, don't coward your way out of war like Trump. You're a faggot, you know nothing about killing lol. Retarded inbred white faggots get shot to death everyday lol.
We are replacing you.
Really ?
Of your 30+ genders how many can actually breed ?
Also says this
"Further complicating the picture is climate change—the major factor behind the longer fire seasons and bigger fires. This creates a feedback loop, where megafires exacerbate climate change, which then encourages even bigger wildfires. One study found that from 1984 to 2015, climate change doubled the area burned by wildfires across the West, compared to what would have burned without climate change."
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In a victory for justice, the air was convicted of violating regulations and sentenced to 20 years imprisonment - all air is to be sucked out of the state within the next two weeks and stored securely until 2038.
You took the blue pil dident you you retardistan
....liberals/socialists/illegals there, are you surprised? They're all full of hot/bad air
You liberal morons hate science when it talks about there actually being differences between genders, or that there actually are genders--or when it talks about differences in intelligence levels across populations (even populations of the same race, so leave that out of this). When science doesn't fit your narrative you don't just ignore it, you actively suppress it.
Also, the last time I checked, California is governed by not just liberals but actual total leftists and has been for quite some time. They have stricter regulations on just about everything imaginable and pretty much get their way on anything that gets proposed--and yet you still have this problem while other areas don't have that problem. Now why might that be? Geography certainly. As others have pointed out and you've roundly ignored, it's been proven (again, by science) that suppressing wildfires is bad for forests and leads to bigger and worse wildfires when they finally do break out. Nobody in California wants to hear that though because naturally occurring wildfires may be beneficial for forests and a part of the natural cycle of things but they are of course not good for real estate developers and other bigwigs who make up the top end of the "small class of wealthy people and huge underclass of poor and illegal aliens with no middle class" that your ill-conceived social experiments have wrought.
In other words, you mindless twerp, all of this really proves that leftists are total failures at governing, that their policies objectively and provably don't work because nature doesn't give a damn about your political opinion, and that leaves you with the only options leftists ever have open to them--suppress the message and, when you get in power, literally kill the messengers. It is you who are obsolete and since you're probably young and stupid, let me give you some advice: being obsolete before you even get started is a bad position to be in.
Now, for the rest of you, conservatives are scarcely perfect. Conservatives do favor big business too much, they have in the past allowed the few to get away with way too much and push the costs of their messes off on the public. Leftists may be off the handle about global warming causing specific things but pollution is bad and should be held to a minimum--and people who cause environmental disasters like dumping chemicals into rivers and such should be held criminally accountable and financially accountable for their mess. That's the problem with pollution--it doesn't cost anything. Sincere minded people who want it to cost something aren't wrong about that because that's using economics to solve a problem caused by economics. In other words, everyone needs to grow up and figure out how to make things work.
California is one of the most regulated states when it comes to emissions, have an area of the country with the least amount of heavy industry per capita, less cars (due to taxes), much more expensive living (and thus smaller areas to heat/cool, also due to taxes), yet when you look historically, they've been the top violators of CO2 and O3 standards.
Now it seems either, all the regulation is counterproductive to the end goal or it doesn't do anything but cost money and thus energy (money spent = energy spent). People and businesses across the world are slowly changing (you can't just replace 200 years of progress in 15 years) and it seems like less regulation eventually wins out.
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Who could have have seen this coming"
Even though somewhere in that large area was not above the limits that long for the previous 20 years?
Its all that smug.
Really ?
Of your 30+ genders how many can actually breed ?
BREED? To breed denies the basic right to abortion! Breeding is a sign you hate genders which include a feminine part and are a bigoted, racist, Nazi who should be punched in the face! Breed? You're SICK!
Given the previous O3 levels have changed historically, we may well have been above the current limit - but it wasn't newsworthy because the limit was higher.
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But in good news, thanks to California climate change policy, LA had the lowest levels of CO_2 in decades...
no u r.
That really surprises me, but I agree that the source appears valid.
Leave the smog, we're moving house to Bel Air.
You should get a job as a beamer, the only thing you can do is projecting.
You smelly buggers!
You can pump as much pollution in the air as you want. Unless you actually remive oxygen from it, the level of oxygen stays pretty much the same. Pouring sand into water does not decrease the overall amount of water in the system.
Blame it on my popularity.
I wish there was a way to concentrate it right at the Trump apologists.
Ironically, this story would indicate it's concentrated at those who oppose his views.
"pretty much the same" - synonym, "not the same"
And I'm sure you've done the research showing the difference in wildfire strength between the micro-differences in the amount of oxygen in the air?
Reading the article I can't help but to think it's a Democratic commercial. They like regulation. We need more! Yea, not so fast. Nothing on what's really the cause, just a guess.