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Trump Administration Asks For Public Input on Data Privacy (cnet.com)

The federal government wants to know the best way to protect your privacy online. On Tuesday, the Department of Commerce released a request for public comments as it outlined the Trump administration's approach to consumer data privacy. A report adds: In the proposal, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration, a branch under the Commerce Department, recommended privacy regulations focused on giving users control over how their data is used by tech companies. The proposal comes a day before the US Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation is set to hold a hearing on consumer privacy, with companies like Apple, Google and Amazon testifying. The Commerce Department found public concern with how personal information has been used by tech companies and is taking a "risk-based flexibility" approach for privacy regulations. "The administration takes these concerns seriously and believes that users should be able to benefit from dynamic uses of their information, while still expecting organizations will appropriately minimize risks to users' privacy," the department wrote in the document.

117 comments

  1. Like they'll actually listen to us by TomBauserman · · Score: 1, Insightful

    They'll overwhelm the legitimate responses with bot's giving the responses they want. See look we asked the public this is what they asked for.

    1. Re:Like they'll actually listen to us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, considering how the children talk about President Trump, I fully expect the responses to be well thought out, useful responses.

      Who am I kidding, it'll be a bunch of "orange headed, cheeto man" and "small hands" and "impeach!" bullshit.

    2. Re:Like they'll actually listen to us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But you have to admit this is still way more transparent than the Obama administration was ever willing to be.

    3. Re:Like they'll actually listen to us by Kohath · · Score: 0, Troll

      Remember when we found out Trump’s predecessor was using the NSA to spy on everyone?

    4. Re:Like they'll actually listen to us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when has Satan himself needed the help of the NSA?

    5. Re:Like they'll actually listen to us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But, but, but...But OBama!1!

    6. Re: Like they'll actually listen to us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same shit new president. For 8 years all we heard was Obama this Obama that. Now deal with it. It's your turn.

    7. Re:Like they'll actually listen to us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We don't know whether or not the NSA shared this data with the current president or not. They might consider him untrustworthy, for obvious reasons. So therefore, I disagree with your point that he already has the public's input and therefore we don't need to give it. People should speak up, even if they don't think Trump will be in office for much longer, simply because it's too easy to share your opinion.

      Besides, what's the downside?

    8. Re: Like they'll actually listen to us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But MMMMMommmm, they did it first!!!

    9. Re:Like they'll actually listen to us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like what happened with the FCC, right? Oh, wait. That's not what happened with the FCC at all, and you're talking out your ass.

    10. Re: Like they'll actually listen to us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same shit new president. For 8 years all we heard was Obama this Obama that. Now deal with it. It's your turn.

      So proving that the left in spite of claiming to be better than the right they cannot actually lead by example and take the high road by not engaging in childish name-calling.

      tldr; version: Pot called Kettle black.

    11. Re:Like they'll actually listen to us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you tell them you want to limit Google's access they will listen.
      If you tell them you want to limit ISP's access they will ignore.

  2. This should be easy to write by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 1

    Whatever you (the gov't) doesn't want anyone to know about all your "dealings", and the efforts you take to ensure such "dealings" remain secret and hidden from public view....apply to all citizens.

    Problem solved /h (maybe)

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  3. Haters rejecting this out of hand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    ... simply because of the source in 3... 2... 1...

    1. Re: Haters rejecting this out of hand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cnet sucks balls and is owned by CBS -> HBO -> the jews

  4. Bond... James Bond.... by Lab+Rat+Jason · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Require companies that intend to collect ANY personal data to put up a bond commensurate with the type of data they collect. If they are found to have sold the data, or allowed through negligence the data to be stolen, then the bond immediately pays out to the effected people, without so much as a whisper from a lawyer.

    I know that's all a fantasy, but really these companies need to know that they can't treat people like assets.

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    1. Re:Bond... James Bond.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know that's all a fantasy, but really these companies need to know that they can't treat people like assets.

      In the case of Facebook and Google, that's their business plan. They know more about you than you do, and they are willing to sell that information to anyone willing to pay.

      If we do end up in a world where sharing private information is controlled by the public, then companies like Facebook and Google would cease to exist. I wouldn't lose any sleep if that happened.

    2. Re: Bond... James Bond.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is SO predatory, and I know we have not yet SEEN the duck who is quacking, but I for one am certainly "hearing" the quack as it becomes more and more belligerently obvious that TELCO COMPANIES ARE SELLING OUR CALL/TEXT METADATA to advertisers. And Google. Because advertisers = Google. And Facebook.

      I mean, sorry, it's fucking obvious. Why wouldn't it be happening?

      Not to mention that somehow loan-collections agencies are getting cell phone numbers. So those are obviously for sale too. With or without court subpoena? Obviously without, since these Chapter 7-able debts have no legal leverage. Hmmm.

      We need more Snowden docs. It's about fucking time a much greater view of the atrocity be put on exposé.

      I'm not saying corporate CEOs need to be put in jail. That doesn't accomplish shit. Imprisonment needs to be transcended. This is an evolutionary duty of ours.

      This needs to happen from the inside out... so again, we need more Snowden docs. All this bullshit that's happening will be put in its place by a crippling disclosure.

      Just about everybody is going to be fucking pissed. The people who have defended the propagated idea of what America is ("our" troops) will even have their toes stepped on. Who the fuck is going to enforce these bullshit laws when the military forces decide they've had enough of this fucking shit?

      Everybody is getting fucked. It won't last.

    3. Re:Bond... James Bond.... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I like this idea, as long as the pay out is at least $1000/user. For sensitive data let's say $10,000 to start, with yearly automatic inflation increases.

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  5. Can you blame them? by rsilvergun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    After the shit show that was the Net Neutrality comment period? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice and.. well... You can't fool me again.

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    1. Re:Can you blame them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After the shit show that was the Net Neutrality comment period? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice and.. well... You can't fool me again.

      FYI... "Public Comment" by the FCC isn't supposed to be vote count thing, it's only to get information from the public that the FCC may not be aware of. Decisions are made based on the evidence presented, not on how many comments weigh in which way on the question. It's not about the volume of posts, but the provision of unique information from said posts. Those bots that keep posing the same form letter with varying names to the public comments are pointless.

      The comment period for NN was appropriate and the decision, though debatable, was based on specific information either already in the FCC's hands or provided by the public comments. Your opinion of the FCC's choice, doesn't mean the comment process was somehow flawed, or that all the relevant information wasn't considered in some way. You cannot argue the process is somehow flawed or evidence was ignored because you didn't get the results you like, unless you specifically name the flaws in said process.

    2. Re: Can you blame them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have no idea what you are talking about. The OP said none of those things. You just created like 3 straw men in one post. Shame on you.

    3. Re:Can you blame them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fool me once, shame on you. But teach a man to fool me, and I'll be fooled for the rest of my life.

    4. Re:Can you blame them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IOW, you didn't learn what public comments are. Here is a refresher.

      It is not a public vote. Even if X gets more comments in support does not mean X gets done.

      Bots do not help and will be ignored.

      Letter writing campaigns with copy-paste text is the same as a bot.

    5. Re:Can you blame them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way to prove the OP's point. Well done!

    6. Re: Can you blame them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have no idea what you are talking about. The OP said none of those things. You just created like 3 straw men in one post. Shame on you.

      Care to enumerate your claims with specifics? Three straw men?

      FYI means "For your Information" which means I'm providing information that the OP may or may not be aware. I was addressing an issue, which I believe seems to be largely misunderstood by Net Neutrality supporters specifically and those who are critical of the FCC in general. It was a discussion of *how* the public comment process of the FCC works and how it is used by the FCC.

      And FYI, I've been dealing with the FCC for decades and have been involved in advocacy over a number of FCC actions that impact me and my Amateur Radio Hobby.... So, I think I do have at least a vague understanding of their public comment process works and what it is for.

  6. Facebook by BrookHarty · · Score: 2

    You get into the habit of using facebook single sign on for a majority of web pages and apps, then you find out facebook buys financial banking data to tie to your account, then they get voting data, surfing history, contacts. Nobody knew back then that facebook would buy companies up, gobble data, to have such indepth view into everyones lives. Its not a cute and fun social networking site anymore.

    1. Re:Facebook by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 2

      Nobody knew back then that facebook

      Of course some people knew. A bunch of us. We just weren't posting about it on Facebook... cause obvious reasons.

      Of course, whenever someone says "nobody knows", what they almost always mean is "I didn't know".

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    2. Re:Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For starters, it should be 100% illegal to "share" (i.e. sell) an individual's financial data.

    3. Re:Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did. Note the AC. Facebook wasn't the first and wont be the last.

      Be vigilant or be a victim with karma. You made your choice.

    4. Re:Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you f kidding? People have warned about FB the whole friggin goddamn time!
      That and the electronic snooping. Of course it's not just metadata.

      It's the masses not listening. The hipster morons that are the real problem.

    5. Re:Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Or, more accurately, "I didn't think"

  7. Risk-based flexibility by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Commerce Department found public concern with how personal information has been used by tech companies and is taking a "risk-based flexibility" approach for privacy regulations.

    What a load of shit. EVERYONE is going to say, "there's no risk with us!" and they'll do nothing for protections.

    Because when data is stolen, there are no repercussions for the firm that had the data stolen. Ahem! Equifax. Anthem and all those other companies that I forgot about because it happens all the time.

  8. Policy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Data collected about people is private, people do not, and should not have access to it.

    Data sold to companies from people above is private, people should not have knowledge about it, or access to it.

    Data breaches are private, and people should have no knowledge about it.

    There, I just saved a whole lot of effort. This is what Trump legislation will look like.

  9. Dynamism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The administration takes these concerns seriously and believes that users should be able to benefit from dynamic uses of their information, while still expecting organizations will appropriately minimize risks to users' privacy,

    Maybe the first step should be to clarify what the "reasonable" in the reasonable expectation of privacy means? And see what advantages and disadvantages various privacy regulations around the world offer in actual use. Right now the development and assimilation of technology alters the meaning of reasonable all the time. And that "appropriate minimization" is relative and context dependent if it's going to be reasonable for the various companies. The uncertainty around privacy may continue in the worst case.

  10. Re:What a JOKE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hate it when I'm right...

    https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12663310&cid=57374002

  11. I dont expect privacy anymore. by Lohrno · · Score: 1

    If they're not sharing some info now they will later. We don't have enough laws to protect it, and I really doubt we ever will. Even if the laws say they can't do X, how can you prove they are?

    I say the only two options are live in a hermit shack or just accept it.

    1. Re:I dont expect privacy anymore. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they're not sharing some info now they will later. We don't have enough laws to protect it, and I really doubt we ever will. Even if the laws say they can't do X, how can you prove they are?

      I say the only two options are live in a hermit shack or just accept it.

      That's the thing. Corporations are so big, you don't even know who you're subscribing to anymore.

  12. obviously.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    only republicans with russian ties and those who swear a blood oath to the dumpster-fire-in-chief should be allowed to have any privacy online...

    anyone opposed will (continue to) have their online lives hoovered-up by TLAs and the russians.

  13. Meanwhile at AT&T by nimbius · · Score: 4, Funny

    AT&T thug: Sir! the president says he wants Americans opinions on ah...privacy...

    AT&T Boss: Remember the FCC comments?

    AT&T thug: Sure thing boss. Yo! Mikey! fire up the shit-post-o-matic 9000! we've got some "opinions" that need voiced!

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    1. Re:Meanwhile at AT&T by sexconker · · Score: 1

      that need voiced

      [] To be
      [x] Not to be

      That answers that, I guess.

    2. Re:Meanwhile at AT&T by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's Shit-Postal AI 9018, and it's already swamped all forums like /.

      Of course, in exactly 20 years, people're gonna say "I dudn't knew ML culd p0st to some!"

  14. Dear DoC Spam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Dear [DoC]. I strongly [urge/recommend/ask] the DoC to [rescind/overturn/undo] the rules [set in place/laid down] by [Obama/Wheeler/both], which [take over broadband/control the internet]. [Normal people], as opposed to [elitist liberal bureaucrats], should be able to [use/purchase] the [services/applications/products] they want. The [Obama/Wheeler/both] plan is a [betrayal/exploitation/corruption] of [data privacy/the open internet]. It [undid/reversed/broke] a [light-touch/market-based/pro-consumer] [approach/policy/system] that [worked/functioned/performed] successfully for [a long time] with [bipartisan support].

  15. Consumer data policy - everything gets hashed by brxndxn · · Score: 2

    Imagine a consumer data policy where every user has a hash key they can revoke at any point which would leave data encrypted anywhere he or she has shared it. In order to display an unscrambled picture, the social media site or other tech company would run the user's saved key against another decentralized key authority (like the Bitcoin blockchain or one of the many other crypto blockchains). The user could revoke the key by having control over the decentralized address and remove the designated social media site's individual user key.

    Then.. for the law.. Make it illegal for any site to store unscrambled/decrypted photos, video, or other media of user's specifically encrypted content. So, a user could share unscrambled pictures to Facebook.. or encrypted pictures to facebook with an unlock hash key..

    I don't have the idea completely thought out.. but ultimately a user should have control over his or her specifically private shared data. Specifically private shared data would be any data shared explicitly to a single party with no intent to distribute to everyone. ie: sharing data to only my 'friends' on Facebook

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    1. Re:Consumer data policy - everything gets hashed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahahaha...hahahahahha do you actually think this is serious.

      "Privacy" at social media companies is a marketing technique, a way to make you feel okay to let them have more of your data. Governments and especially law enforcement love the treasure trove of info at their fingertips. There is no way any privacy laws will diminish this access to ever increasing data. The laws will be written in such a way to fool people into thinking they have privacy. The cat is out of the bag and there is no way to put it back.

      If you want privacy move to a 3rd world country, only use cash or barter with goods and services and don't get a phone or any type of computer. That might work for the next 10-20 years until systems are good enough to locate, identity, and track every object on the planet in real time via various sensing technologies. This global system will not require any person or thing to be connected to be tracked. Just existing will be enough.

    2. Re:Consumer data policy - everything gets hashed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... don't have the idea completely thought out ...

      Each personal file needs a permission identifier. To decrypt, the identifier is sent to a token-generating web-server for a time-based OTP.

      To prevent data piracy, delete the permission identifier (and OTP key) from the token-generating web-site. There also needs to be a way to allow white-listed databases/web-sites to receive new permission-identifiers for data they already have. Allow permission-identifiers to Include a versioning system as well, so the database/web-site owner knows to contact the customer/subscriber for the latest file.

      Make it illegal for any site ...

      The "protecting prosperity" clause of the NTIA statement translates to 'not outlawing the monetization of personal data'.

  16. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Trump Administration Asks For Public Input on Data Privacy

    Trump's corrupt, useless, so-called "administration" is asking for public input on something, I'm sure so that they can do the opposite.

    As Admiral Akbar said, "It's a trap!"

    So fucking tired of this shit.

    1. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump Administration Asks For Public Input on Data Privacy

      Trump's corrupt, useless, so-called "administration" is asking for public input on something, I'm sure so that they can do the opposite.

      As Admiral Akbar said, "It's a trap!"

      So fucking tired of this shit.

      Sad when one's political proclivities drives them to such statements about their political opponents and shut down debate. They may not decide stuff your way, but that doesn't imply they are not actually willing to discuss your ideas and debate theirs. Opinions can and do differ but nothing will ever get resolved without exchanging ideas. So, Stop trying to shut down debate with such useless proclamations.

    2. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump Administration Asks For Public Input on Data Privacy

      Trump's corrupt, useless, so-called "administration" is asking for public input on something, I'm sure so that they can do the opposite.

      As Admiral Akbar said, "It's a trap!"

      So fucking tired of this shit.

      Sad when one's political proclivities drives them to such statements about their political opponents and shut down debate. They may not decide stuff your way, but that doesn't imply they are not actually willing to discuss your ideas and debate theirs. Opinions can and do differ but nothing will ever get resolved without exchanging ideas. So, Stop trying to shut down debate with such useless proclamations.

      You made possession of marijuana more illegal than rape to shut down our ideas. You've met our attempts to spread messages with fire hoses and tear gas for decades. If you want good faith you're going to need to spend a few decades demonstrating it while suffering from our slings and arrows because you blew up the "political correctness" dam, and if you want civility it's going to be on you to rebuild it. Actions have consequences, no matter how much you pretend that's only for those of us who aren't "Real Americans".

    3. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They may not decide stuff your way, but that doesn't imply they are not actually willing to discuss your ideas and debate theirs.

      Yes, it does. Did you hear Mike Naig, the Republican acting Iowa Secretary of Agriculture on Marketplace yesterday? Asked about Chinese retaliatory tariffs in light of an Iowa State University study released that day indicating that the tariffs would cost Iowa farmers $2B and reduce state tax revenue by $140M, he essentially said 'well, they've got to do something about intellectual property.' He didn't mean right to repair, seed patenting and "licensing", GM food labeling, or any of the top line issues in IP that actually matter to Iowa farmers. He meant Chinese movie piracy and joint venture agreements. It was more important to him to support the talking points coming from on high than to actually do his job to support and promote Iowa agriculture.

      That sounds exactly like the type of person that isn't willing to discuss my ideas and debate theirs.

    4. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck off.

      First, anybody thinking this is a singular party issue is full of shit. Full stop. Period.

      NEITHER of the big parties even pays lip service to giving a flying fuck about the public good. Unless they can frame "public good" in a way where it's clear it's actually about monetary interests for big business. It's not like we're shutting down communication when we call out one side or the other for being dipshits of the highest order. They all are. We just happen to be swinging the hammer this direction today. It'll be the other tomorrow, because the Dem's are just as fuckernated as the Reps. They all need to die in a fire, but luckily for them they got those asbestos underwear paid for buy the bazillionaire cops.

  17. Privacy Freedom Please! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please protect our privacy's freedom by eliminating all regulations and thereby accountability, who's only purpose is to job loss and pedophile. The free market will ensure that any company that causes serious harm to millions of Americans will elect to continue offshore inversion, and the resulting rebranding effort will cost a fraction of their tax savings for that fiscal quarter. Those harmed can then praise Jeebus, because they are blessed with a system that already works!

  18. Kohath the jokebitch making NSA partisan now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You must be some kind of "born in 2013 baby" because the NSA has been spying on everyone since the 70's. Only a moron would try to blame Obama for that lol. #Get tested Kohath you partisan faggot.

    (It's even funnier when you back a traitor like Trump and THEN try to go after Obama using decades old arguments as if brand new)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_Wind
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_(software)
    http://digitalmanticore.com/?tag=national-security
    https://www.businessinsider.com/nsa-prism-keywords-for-domestic-spying-2013-6 * last updated in 1998

    1. Re:Kohath the jokebitch making NSA partisan now? by Kohath · · Score: 1

      That everybody does it defense is incompatible with the my team is Good, the other team is Evil storytelling.

    2. Re:Kohath the jokebitch making NSA partisan now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh Jesus Christ...

      You need a new hobby. Until Mueller actually presents some kind of evidence, Donald Trump is innocent of any crime that the liberals can try blame him for. The list is so long too...

      Treason
      Incest
      Sex Crimes

      You name it, he's innocent until SOMEONE provides some evidence.

      Maxine Waters and Liz Warren came cry "impeach" all they want. It won't happen.

    3. Re:Kohath the jokebitch making NSA partisan now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's still innocent even if they provide evidence. He can only be tried by Congress.

    4. Re:Kohath the jokebitch making NSA partisan now? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Until Mueller actually presents some kind of evidence

      Testimony, is by definition, evidence. We now have sworn testimony that Trump participated in multiple felonies. This testimony was from Trump's own long-time lawyer.

      https://www.apnews.com/74aaf72...

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    5. Re:Kohath the jokebitch making NSA partisan now? by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      Which I personally think is a mistake in the constitution (it may shock some to hear, but it is not a divinely inspired document). Why should every other citizen, politician, and official be subject to the criminal laws of the US except for the president? The impeachment process is ineffective since it's far too political, and of the very few times it has been used it has been highly political and used to get rid of someone unpopular with the congressional majority. In essence, if the president is popular with the party in power (who may also be corrupt) then there are no checks on the executive.

      Some people say the president should be above all this to protect his or her ability to conduct war and run the country rather than get bogged down dealing with a defense. That's bullshit though, that's why we have vice presidents and cabinet members and we're well into the 21st century where the president should not be micromanaging the country.

    6. Re:Kohath the jokebitch making NSA partisan now? by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 1

      Because if anyone with access to a Grand Jury could indict the President, then every election cycle we'd have a half dozen or more local prosecutors creating politically motivated indictments to get their name in the papers and create bad press for their political enemies.

      It already happens at the State level, although typically in States with split political control and a level of animosity like they have at the Federal level.

      If anything, we need more restrictions on criminal indictments, like a Grand Jury process which hasn't been turned into a rubber stamp, rather than less restrictions.

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    7. Re:Kohath the jokebitch making NSA partisan now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the article you cited: "there is no allegation of any wrongdoing against the president in the government’s charges against Mr. Cohen.”

      The article also makes clear that Cohen didn't name Trump in his plea deals nor submitted testimony, nor did any of the prosecutor's statements.

    8. Re:Kohath the jokebitch making NSA partisan now? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      The article also makes clear that Cohen didn't name Trump in his plea deals nor submitted testimony

      You are correct. Cohen's testimony didn't mention Trump by name. It mentioned an "unnamed federal candidate that Cohen worked for". Since Cohen never worked for any other candidate, who do you think it's referring to?

      That's why Trump is referred to as an "unindicted co-conspirator". This is a common formulation in criminal cases that involve elected officials. I remember when an earlier incarnation of Trump, Rod Blagojevich, was indicted and everybody was finking on each other. They didn't name the other parties in the conspiracy because they were being indicted separately (or cooperating), and Justice Department guidelines don't allow testimony to name anyone who is not a defendant in that case. Since the testimony is evidenciary in a case that is still being built, brick by brick, against Donald Trump, he's not a defendant until he's indicted. But make no mistake: Cohen implicated Trump in several felonies, and is still talking his head off to prosecutors in some room in the Southern District of New York.

      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/2...

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    9. Re:Kohath the jokebitch making NSA partisan now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the four years of Trump. Spreading lies like those got him elected the first time. Keep it up for the Red Team.

  19. Re:What a JOKE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Correct what a joke you just never stop crying post some proof or kill your self. What kind of person lets national politics rule your entire life, your local politician effects your life more than who is in the white house. Are you that person screaming on the ground at Trump's inauguration?

  20. Re:What a JOKE by pgmrdlm · · Score: 1

    The only person that should perform late term abrotion on themselves, is you.

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  21. Kohath goes right from partisan to lying faggot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YOU tried to pretend OBAMA was responsible for a 1970's era data collection regime. YOU are a provably lying punk ass bitch.

    1. Re:Kohath goes right from partisan to lying faggot by Kohath · · Score: 1

      He was responsible. The President is responsible for the activities of the people who work for him. That’s the job.

    2. Re:Kohath goes right from partisan to lying faggot by smooth+wombat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The President is responsible for the activities of the people who work for him. That's the job.

      Oh really? Then are we to presume the con artist is responsible for the FCC lying about being "hacked" when the Net Neutrality public response was out, when in reality they were overwhelmed by people who wanted to keep NN in place? Instead, the head of the FCC used at least one person's dead mother to post a fake comment.

      Or how about the former head of the EPA, Scott Pruitt, who was essentially bought by big industry, who spent taxpayer money like it was water, had a security detail to rival the president's, who had secretive rooms installed (at taxpayer expense), and got a sweetheart deal from an energy lobbyist on a condo rental?

      Or the head of FEMA who used government vehicles to drive back and forth between his home in North Carolina and Washington, a six hour trip, each weekend?

      Considering all the scandals in this administration, it doesn't appear the con artist cares one wit about the activities of those who work for him. Even more so when one considers the criminals who worked on his campaign and are going to jail.

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  22. Include digital data in the 4th Amendment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Include digital data in the 4th Amendment. Internet, email, and cellular data should be included in those protections. Get a warrant. Period.

    Put a 60 day limit on federal govt retention of extra data that isn't active in a legal case. Video, audio, cameras included. Especially GPS and license plate data.

    Set an expiration of 1 yr for any NSLs. 1 yr later, they need to be made public.

    Right NOT to be tracked by login, name, IP, when online without explicit permission by any internet company.

    ISPs shouldn't be allowed to track were customers go on the internet in detail. Allowing this will push people to use VPNs to avoid it, which will make law enforcement just a little harder.

    If govt mandates back doors in device encryption, soon everyone will put in add-ons for additional encryption. Instead of 2 problems (iOS and Android), the Govt will have 50 problems.

    Those are the beginning.

  23. So where is the link? by ZoomieDood · · Score: 1

    There's no link anywhere to provide your input. Nothing on CNet's site in the story (well, duh, they don't want the restrictions), but I couldn't find it on the DoC's National Telecommunications and Information Administration's website either.

    Is this a farce?

    1. Re:So where is the link? by sexconker · · Score: 1

      CNET is a farce, yes, as are Slashdot's "editors".
      https://www.ntia.doc.gov/feder...

    2. Re: So where is the link? by ZoomieDood · · Score: 1

      Thank you!

  24. Obama wasn't POTUS in the 70's, Kohath faggot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe it's news to you TRUMP FAGGOTS with your constant HONESTY PROBLEMS, but Obama wasn't the President when the NSA began "collect it all" mandates. YOU ARE A LYING FAGGOT, KOHATH.

    It's sad that your party has made that a virtue.

    1. Re: Obama wasn't POTUS in the 70's, Kohath faggot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not when they began. Funny that you would so carefully slice dice n parse.

      But he was President for 8 painfully long years, knew about it, did nothing to stop it, funded it, expanded it, and used it to spy on his political opposition for political not security reasons.

      Nixon was forced from office for less but this evil prick is your hero.

    2. Re:Obama wasn't POTUS in the 70's, Kohath faggot by sexconker · · Score: 0

      It continued and expanded under his watch, and Obama went to bat for them by lying to the public, on camera, about it.
      Immediately after his lie, the truth was exposed widely (anyone with a brain already knew, but the general populace was willing to believe Obama and his media puppets).

      They ARE listening to our phone calls. They ARE reading our emails.

    3. Re: Obama wasn't POTUS in the 70's, Kohath faggot by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      Do you believe Trump has stopped these programs and what's your evidence?

      Doesn't the continued use of these programs under the Trump administration make Trump just as guilty as you claim Obama is?

      Hypocrite much?

    4. Re: Obama wasn't POTUS in the 70's, Kohath faggot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hypocrisy? None. I never defended Trump. I made factual statements about Obama. So you think whataboutism is a defense for Obamas crimes because Trump Does It Too! Get higher stabdards.

      Yes. It makes Trump equally horrible as Obama. Assuming Trump abused the ability to spy on his political opponents like Obama did.

      If he has not then Obama is worse.

    5. Re: Obama wasn't POTUS in the 70's, Kohath faggot by rahvin112 · · Score: 2

      So why are you so focused on Obama? He's one of a long line of Presidents who've been at best passive participants in this going all the way back to Jimmy Carter.

      Why are you focused solely on Obama if you are as clean and pure of motive as you claim?

    6. Re: Obama wasn't POTUS in the 70's, Kohath faggot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bomb the NSA. Kill everyone at fort mead!!!! Yoga booga

    7. Re: Obama wasn't POTUS in the 70's, Kohath faggot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      False. Trump completely made up the whole "wiretapping Trump Tower" story. If you were better at critical thinking it would be painfully apparent to you, especially when Trump completely buffooned his story by contradicting it repeatedly.

    8. Re: Obama wasn't POTUS in the 70's, Kohath faggot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because in context that was the appropriate direction.

      I also failed to list the crimes of a few dozen other presidents. Why did you focus on Trump and not call me out for all the others?

      For the record I am registered independent and made an active and thoughtful decision to stay home for the first time ever during the 2016 election. Accusations of bias would fall on deaf ears.

    9. Re: Obama wasn't POTUS in the 70's, Kohath faggot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      please explain why a FISA warrant was acquired for Carter Page, and what happened afterwards, if there was no spying on Trump tower.

      seriously, I'm curious as to how you're gonna square that circle.

    10. Re: Obama wasn't POTUS in the 70's, Kohath faggot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm just an internet poster, but I think it's because the "spying" didn't happen at Trump Tower. It was at the other end of the line, where we had a warrant and/or it was foreign soil. That the people being monitored talked to Trump, and Trump said something incriminating, is his own problem. That's certainly how it's worked for anyone tangentially involved with people tangentially involved with "drugs" for the past three decades.

  25. GDPR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The way Europe has dealt with this - via General Data Protection Regulation has exposed one of the biggest cross-atlantic differences - in Europe, the people have the upper hand on large corporations in influencing government. In the US, itâ(TM)s quite the opposite.
    GDPR is a long bit of text, but fundamentals can be summarised as follows
    1. The consumer owns the data companies hold on them
    2. The data can only be used for purposes that the consumer has consented to
    3. Lack of consumer consent cannot constitute grounds to refuse service unless necessary for performance of the service
    4. If a company wants to share the data with third parties, they can only do so with consumer consent

    This will never happen in the US.

    1. Re:GDPR by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      in Europe, the people have the upper hand on large corporations in influencing government.

      Unfortunately it is not that obvious. Lobbies are strong in Brussels, and in fact I still do not understand how the GDPR made its way. Look at how hard it is to forbid glyphosate usage, for instance.

  26. The Elephant in the closet by nanospook · · Score: 1

    How about Trump getting public input on the rampant greed in the Health Care Industry? It's the one thing he has not touched as far as I know. The high cost of health care is rendering our population poor as a third world country.

    --
    Have you fscked your local propeller head today?
    1. Re: The Elephant in the closet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Blue cross blue shield should be tortured and killed

    2. Re:The Elephant in the closet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about Trump getting public input on the rampant greed in the Health Care Industry?

      The man campaigned on gutting public health care, and went to great lengths to do it .. along with passing a spending bill in which the tax breaks for the rich never expire, but for everyone else they do.

      Do you really think he in any way gives a fuck about the greed in the health care industry? Everything he's ever said on health care indicates he wants the opposite of curing greed and profits in it.

      The high cost of health care is rendering our population poor as a third world country.

      Which, let's face it, was pretty much a policy goal.

      I'm pretty sure as far as Republicans are concerned if the poor die off from lack of health care, that's what is supposed to happen, because God said so -- apparently God is a sack of shit too.

      If you can reconcile how the party of "completely selfish bastards" also seems to represent the Christian right, do let us know.

  27. "Nixon was forced from office for less" -TRUMP FAG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Nixon was forced from office for less" - Said the deplorable Trump faggot desperate to save his obese orange traitor-antihero from the firing squad.

    GTFO Ivan, go home you're sober.

  28. Fuck You, CNET by sexconker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because CNET doesn't want you actually expressing your thoughts on privacy, I'll provide the goods: https://www.ntia.doc.gov/feder...

    On behalf of the U.S. Department of Commerce, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) is requesting comments on ways to advance consumer privacy while protecting prosperity and innovation. NTIA is seeking public comments on a proposed approach to this task that lays out a set of user-centric privacy outcomes that underpin the protections that should be produced by any Federal actions on consumer-privacy policy, and a set of high-level goals that describe the outlines of the ecosystem that should be created to provide those protections.

    Written comments identified by Docket No. 180821780-8780-01 may be submitted by email to privacyrfc2018@ntia.doc.gov. Comments submitted by email should be machine-readable and should not be copy-protected. Written comments also may be submitted by mail to the National Telecommunications and Information Administration, U.S. Department of Commerce, 1401 Constitution Avenue, NW, Room 4725, Attn: Privacy RFC, Washington, DC 20230.

    1. Re:Fuck You, CNET by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

      I'll be posting this on FB, if nothing than to have my Trump-hating & privacy loving friends (and "friends") tied in a knot. As for me, I'd say, do it like EU's GPDR, but only for very large companies.

    2. Re:Fuck You, CNET by thomst · · Score: 1

      sexconker announced:

      Because CNET doesn't want you actually expressing your thoughts on privacy, I'll provide the goods: https://www.ntia.doc.gov/feder...

      Somebody with points, please MOD PARENT +1 Informative.

      Also, msmash, please include the above link in TFS.

      That is all ...

      --
      Check out my novel.
    3. Re:Fuck You, CNET by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note, this is not an invitation to send in your pre-prepared essays and rants.

      The government has published specific proposals, and those are what you are invited to comment on. If you want anyone to take the slightest notice, take time to look at the proposals and structure your replies accordingly.

  29. president-trump-has-made-4229-falsehoods-558-days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "and Obama went to bat for them by lying to the public, on camera, about it." - Quote him doing so, otherwise TRUMP is the biggest liar in American history either way.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/08/01/president-trump-has-made-4229-false-or-misleading-claims-in-558-days/

    Treasonous dithering dishonest faggots like Sexconker will not be forgotten when Trump hangs. He'll be remembered with extreme prejudice.

    ALL the traitors will be.

  30. Begging for Campaign Donations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This will go away or be watered down to nothing.

    Trump's administration is the swamp, and the swamp likes money.

    Expect the GOP, and sadly, some Dems, to start raking in the campaign money.

  31. Yeah ... right ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At the end of the day, Trump will do what benefits him and his rich asshole friends ... because he's a crook and con man, and because he's the worst form of mercantilist in terms of his minimal understanding of economics.

    He's not going to give you privacy if it cuts into the profits of the greedy assholes he wants to ensure get their cut.

    But, hey, that's OK .. he can stand in front of the UN claiming to be the best ever in front of a bunch of people who know how much of a lying shitbag he is. The problem is the retards who voted for him believe this shit, but nobody else does.

    Tiny hands, tiny brain, tiny little mushroom penis and all.

    LOL ... America first? Only into the shitter.

  32. Re: "Nixon was forced from office for less" -TRUMP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At no point did I defend Trump or play your hypocritical whataboutism game.

    You are an idiot. See above for my full reply to someone who deserves a full response.

    You are an idiot and hypocrite.

  33. Re:What a JOKE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Either Trump colluded with Russia, or literally everyone around him did and he had no idea. He's either a traitor or a buffoon.

  34. Re:president-trump-has-made-4229-falsehoods-558-da by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should seek therapy. All this social media and mainstream media is causing some very serious psychological problems for you.

    Shut the TV off, go outside and enjoy the real world instead of being a foaming-at-the-mouth idiot.

  35. ajit-pais-fcc-lied-about-ddos-attack- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "but that doesn't imply they are not actually willing to discuss your ideas and debate theirs." Ajit Pai using shillbots to accomplish spamming his "feedback" servers in a pseudo-DDOS with cookie-cutter cut/paste jobs in his favor, that does.

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/06/ajit-pais-fcc-lied-about-ddos-attack-ex-chairs-statement-indicates/

  36. First Amendment by UperPoti · · Score: 0

    Any law restricting the use of free speech of the public that is directed to a private corporation would be violation of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

  37. Interesting suggestions, not bumper stickers, work by raymorris · · Score: 2

    My experience with the public comment process is that some types of comments have worked, some don't. We got changes we wanted, when we used certain approaches.

    Regulators already HAVE the bumper stickers. As you mentioned, saying "impeach Trump!" isn't going to inspire any edits to the regulation. Neither is "fuck Facebook", or anything else that fits on a bumper sticker. A bumper sticker slogan won't give regulators any new information or new ideas on which to base changes.

    My experience is that sending well thought out, specific suggestions which take into account different people's perspectives works. How does privacy regulation affect your job? What would be good changes that make things work better for you, in your personal life and I your job? What proposed changes could create problems? Can you suggest a way to FIX the proposal to make it better?

    That last question is the big one. To pick randomly regulation I commented on, the initial draft off the FAA "drone" defined the terms in such a way that it would apply to a paper airplane. You'd need to register your paper airplane with the FCC before throwing it. The foam glider toys you get for $8, those would need to be registered, under the original definition of an Unmanned Aerial Vehicle. How about only powered objects? That would include the rubber band powered windup plane in the toy aisle of the supermarket. The palm-sized quadcopters that can only fly indoors - do they really need to be registered with the FAA? Lots of people made comments about what a reasonable definition of an UAV would be, and the FAA adopted a sane definition.

    In previous instances it's been "it's been proposed that Foo, Bar, and Baz be exempt. Suggest adding Fum to the list", or "suggest changing 'under 3 pounds' to 'under 10 pounds because ...".

  38. Re:president-trump-has-made-4229-falsehoods-558-da by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your tears fuel me, please continue the weeping.

  39. Laughing stock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He just got laughed at during a speech to the UN where he was trying to blow smoke about all his accomplishments. This is not a president that I want trying to fix anything important.

  40. The NTIA is staffed with good people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The NTIA is staffed with good people. They're not Trump appointees and they do care about the Internet and civil liberties.

    I strongly urge people to submit public input. It will be read.

  41. Re:president-trump-has-made-4229-falsehoods-558-da by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He'll be remembered with extreme prejudice.

    No doubt, I'm sure you'll hatestrangle your micropenis while screaming incoherently at your monitor come 2020, but don't worry - I'm sure Sexconker won't be too weirded out by your Doritos dust-stained clitty. After all, what with never leaving the basement, it's not like he's ever going to actually encounter you outside of Slashdot, is it?

  42. Captain Toad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After the Stormy Daniels eye witness report, of course Trump wants everyone to comment on his privates.

  43. Re:What a JOKE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course the fact that Russian accounts were used to run ads supporting Killary and organize Anti-Trump rallies never enters into the discussion because Trump Derangement Syndrome has infected everyone.

    Honestly, fuck off and die with that fucktarded shit you fucking fuck fucker.

  44. Where you can actually comment by sasparillascott · · Score: 2

    Here's where you can actually comment (sort of the point of the article), go to it folks: https://www.ntia.doc.gov/feder...

  45. If Trump is in favor of data privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    then I'm against it! Resist!!

  46. Re: Kohath goes right from partisan to lying faggo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He drove a lot? Oh Jesus!

    Were you at all upset at the $40m vacation Hillary and Chelsea took to Egypt when Bill was in office?

  47. We have the greatest privacy.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We have the greatest privacy....the best. No one has better privacy than us, okay? The best. An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me our privacy is the best. I have tremendous respect for privacy. Any negative polls on privacy are fake news, okay. We will build a great privacy firewall – and nobody builds firewalls better than us, believe me – and we’ll build them very inexpensively. And make Mexico pay. Mark my words. Our Twitter has become so powerful that we can actually make enemies respect our privacy.

  48. Data Privacy... From Whom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, I don't care so much about corporations seeing my data. They don't assert the right to drone-strike me without due process.

    The government, on the other hand...

  49. ISPs and credit reporting agencies too? by esev · · Score: 1

    I'd be great if this can include ISPs, cell phone companies, and credit reporting agencies too. I'd really like to opt-out of their data collection.

  50. well, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's certainly doing a great job fixing the economy.

    As of today, black unemployment, hispanic unemployment, youth unemployment, and women's unemployment are all the lowest they've been in many years (for those of you educated by unionized school teachers, AKA Democrat activist propagandists on the public dole, that means "better than during Bush or Obama").

    Consumer confidence is higher than at any time in the past 17 years.

    The laughing at that point in the UN speech was probably at how Trump was being Trump with his self-aggrandizing blurb about his accomplishments - but if you listened to the end you would have notices that he did get a pretty good applause. You guys that despise him need to pay a little more attention.

  51. And is told... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To keep your nose out!