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SEC Charges Elon Musk With Fraud Over His Statements To Take Tesla Private (bloomberg.com)

U.S. securities regulators have sued Elon Musk for allegedly making false statements related to his abandoned efforts to take Tesla Motors private. Bloomberg News broke the news Thursday, citing docket entry in Manhattan federal court. Last month, Musk had expressed his intentions to take Tesla private, and that he had secured the funding. Taking Tesla private, which would have helped the company avoid making short-term commitments and goals, would be the "best path forward," Musk had said at the time. Even as investors had shown agreement to Musk's move, a few days later, he announced that after further discussions, everyone believes that Tesla should remain public. Amid all of this, some argued that Musk made the "false" claim just to hurt short-sellers. From the lawsuit: This case involves a series of false and misleading statements made by Elon Musk, the Chief Executive Officer of Tesla, Inc. ("Tesla"), on August 7, 2018, regarding taking Tesla, a publicly traded company, private. Musk's statements, disseminated via Twitter, falsely indicated that, should he so choose, it was virtually certain that he could take Tesla private at a purchase price that reflected a substantial premium over Tesla stock's then-current share price, that funding for this multi-billion dollar transaction had been secured, and that the only contingency was a shareholder vote. In truth and in fact, Musk had not even discussed, much less confirmed, key deal terms, including price, with any potential funding source. During a press conference, Stephanie Avakian, co-director of the SEC's division of enforcement, said: A chairman and CEO of a public company has important responsibilities to shareholders. Those responsibilities include the need to be scrupulous and careful about the truth and accuracy of statements made to the investing public, whether those statements are made in traditional forms such as a press release or an earnings call or through less formal methods such as Twitter or other social media. Neither celebrity status nor reputation as a technological innovator provide an exemption from the federal securities laws. In a statement to CNBC, Musk said, "This unjustified action by the SEC leaves me deeply saddened and disappointed. I have always taken action in the best interests of truth, transparency and investors. Integrity is the most important value in my life and the facts will show I never compromised this in any way."

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  1. Well, it isn't unexpected. by Mr.+Dollar+Ton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It was probably more an act of stupidity under influence than a premeditated attempt at a short squeeze, but if you're wearing the CEO hat, you have less leeway for stupidity.

    So, fraud charges secured.

    1. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by Rei · · Score: 5, Informative

      Slashdot article is wrong. It's only against Musk, not Tesla. As longs have been pointing out for ages that it would be, while shorts kept insisting it would be against Tesla. He's also not been charged, he's been sued, in a civil case. "Civil Action No. 1:18-cv-8865"

      But come on people, get that price down! I've got dry powder and it's right before the Q3 deliveries numbers ;)

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    2. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by Rei · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why exactly should I be asleep before 9 PM?

      It's always also a sort of strange bewilderment on my part why you seem to think of Iceland as some sort of fictional place where nobody actually lives.

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    3. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by lgw · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's always also a sort of strange bewilderment on my part why you seem to think of Iceland as some sort of fictional place where nobody actually lives.

      "It's fantasy, like Elves and Eskimos" - Homer Simpson

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    4. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by Mr.+Dollar+Ton · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is a very subtle distinction, as Mr. Musk is Tesla for all practical purposes - he's the face, the chief salesman and the chief reality distortion wizard there. Without him, Tesla, Inc. would have folded long ago.

      Also, it is quite possible that more charges will be filed. This is likely the first action, not the last. The outpour of executives in the last few weeks virtually guarantees it.

      I don't expect you to admit that Mr. Musk's behavior is utterly irresponsible, but that's what it is.

    5. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 2

      Slashdot article is wrong. It's only against Musk, not Tesla [pacermonitor.com].

      Problem is, and as clearly stated in the complaint you linked, one of the remedies the SEC is seeking is "that Defendant be prohibited from acting as an officer or director of any issuer that has a class of securities registered pursuant to Section 12 of the Exchange Act [15 U.S.C. 78l] or that is required to file reports pursuant to Section 15(d) of the Exchange Act [15 U.S.C. 78o(d)]."

      In other words, Musk wouldn't be able to be a director/officer of Tesla anymore.

      That could be one itsy bitsy reason why Tesla stock is tanking.

    6. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Slashdot article is wrong. It's only against Musk, not Tesla. As longs have been pointing out for ages that it would be, while shorts kept insisting it would be against Tesla. He's also not been charged, he's been sued, in a civil case. "Civil Action No. 1:18-cv-8865"

      But come on people, get that price down! I've got dry powder and it's right before the Q3 deliveries numbers ;)

      Sued is worse than criminal charges. If found guilty, and given that this happened in a public forum, he will be, the SEC has the potential to ban him from running a public company, just like they did to Elizabeth Holmes. In addition, they can fine him sufficiently high enough to force him to sell Tesla stock to meet the fine, if he doesn't then he goes to prison in contempt of court. The result is the SEC has the power to remove him from Tesla completely.

      And despite your corrections, Tesla has had 3 class action lawsuits filed against it related to the stock tweet, 2 from short sellers and one from a long-position buyer who trusted Musk that the stock woudl be bought at $420, and bought in when the stock was low. https://www.wired.com/story/wildest-lawsuits-tesla-right-now/

      So I would hold off on your Tesla stock buying right now. They are not looking like a winning bet anymore.

    7. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by jeff4747 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Also, it is quite possible that more charges will be filed. This is likely the first action, not the last.

      You generally don't start with the smallest possible action when you are planning more than one.

    8. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by lgw · · Score: 4, Informative

      I dunno, seems like he has a solid defense: "no reasonable person would believe anything I promise".

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    9. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Informative

      Given the Tesla burn rate, they need access to that capital in the next few months. They cannot let it drag on past November. Stock issues typically have 30 to 90 days requirements on announcement, meaning that if Telsa is burning capital at the rate it's been burning, they'll be out of cash around February 2019. So if they have a 90 day announcement period for more stock sales, they would need to announce by the end of October. Having yourself locked down at that time is basically a death sentence.

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    10. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by RhettLivingston · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm honestly not sure how to play those delivery numbers now. I was fixing to jump in for the expected 10% plus jump (trader here, no long investments with a recession in the wind). But, I'm in the camp that believes that Tesla without Musk at the helm will be just another car company instead of a company headed for a full vertical stack business in Transportation as a Service that is the only thing that can justify it being amongst the highest valued companies. To be valued in the $50+ billion range at this point in its life can only be justified by an expectation of a value that is a multiple of the top car company in the world in the decade out time frame because values don't stay flat while the company grows to its target.

      Without his dynamism, they may not fail, but they will only succeed in having sparked the transition to electric, not in the more far-reaching task of rewriting the automotive business model which likely has another 15 years to critical mass. He also badly needs a Tesla worth several times more than today to gain the finances he'll need for Mars at about that same 15 year time frame. He needs a Tesla providing a few hundred billion miles a year of TaaS.

      The SEC has to be very careful here because in punishing Musk for a 10% increase that hurt a few minority shorts, they could spark a 50%+ decrease that would be of far greater total monetary harm to the majority longs.

      Many of the older, calmer investment experts I've read comment on this battle from the POV of experience say that the SEC will talk big but balance what they do to Musk with concern for their own potential of causing more damage than the momentary glitch Musk caused. 10% increases and decreases in Tesla are an expected norm. I personally consider the stock to be unchanged from a long-term POV as long as it stays between about 250 and 370. It is that volatile.

    11. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The SEC has to be very careful here because in punishing Musk for a 10% increase that hurt a few minority shorts, they could spark a 50%+ decrease that would be of far greater total monetary harm to the majority longs.

      That's not the result of the SEC - that's the result of Musk's actions. Commit fraud, you get busted and probably removed from leadership of your company - which will probably tank the stock. That's entirely on Musk trying to be cool for his girlfriend ($420 - get it, 420!) and attack the shorts. The SEC isn't responsible for the harm for the longs - Musk is.

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    12. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2, Informative

      OK, please show the financial report to back up your numbers. Because the financials filed with the SEC say they lose money. Or is this yet another case of Tesla fraud? The reality is - based on Tesla's own numbers - they lost $17,600 per car sold in Q2 2018, and they lost money before accounting for things like R&D or interest (let alone principal) on debt.

      So - put up or shut up. What numbers are you using - real numbers, official financial statement numbers - that say they're making $10,000 profit on each car? I'm not remaining willfully ignorant - I'm looking at the numbers, I've asked you for your backing before, and all you ever give is vitriol and silence. Put up or shut up.

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    13. Re: Well, it isn't unexpected. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      Exactly. This argument trumps all the others.

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    14. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

      Good grief, even the SEC says that Musk is "Charged with Securities Fraud for Misleading Tweets". So you know better than the SEC? Sorry - you're wrong.

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    15. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      he SEC has to be very careful here because in punishing Musk for a 10% increase that hurt a few minority shorts, they could spark a 50%+ decrease that would be of far greater total monetary harm to the majority longs.

      Whoa there hoss. The SEC isn't punishing him because he hurt a minority of shorts - they're punishing him because he broke SEC regulations.

      And frankly, anyone in a long position who expects TSLA to remain at it's current value is dancing on a knife edge because it's current value is a nothing short of a bubble.

    16. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Reality, a corrupt hedge fund, paid a corrupt lobbyist, to buy SEC action. CEO can tweet pretty much anything, it is not a company press release. Normal SEC role, would be to request a confirmation as a company press release (investors should pay far more attention to company press releases than to CEO tweets).

      As a company press release, you claim funding has been provided there better be there, as a CEO with a tweet, you claim funding is available, any one can provide that letter. So he goes to his favourite bank manager and asks for a letter saying they would have (heh heh) provided funding and the SEC looks as stupid as fuck. As a last ditch super lame effort, they claim the letter is after the action, as a retort, yeah, we did a verbal and a handshake (100% legally binding in the eyes of the court). The SEC, well, the particular stooge who fronted the case, might well lose their job because Tesla can counter claim that the only reason prosecution was brought was to actively seek to damage the share price to favour the shorts and well, demand an FBI investigation to find the lobbyists and the hedge fund manager doing the shorting.

      The SEC in this case is doing far more to try to damage the price of Tesla in favour of the hedge funds doing the shorting, on purpose, then Musk did with his tweet ie the SEC has launched a court case to specifically cripple Tesla share price affecting all investors compared to a fucking tweet only affecting hedge funds doing shorts and guess fucking what, protecting all other Tesla investors.

      So who is guilty of the greater stock price manipulation, Elon Musk or the SEC (the unknown lobbyist and hedge fund managers shorting the stock), obviously not Tesla, so guess who will have the case tossed and guess who will be facing major ramifications.

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    17. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      CEO can tweet pretty much anything, it is not a company press release.

      From the complaint:

      On November 5, 2013, Tesla publicly filed a Form 8-K with the Commission stating that it intended to use Musk's Twitter account as a means of announcing material information to the public about Tesla and its products and services and has encouraged investors to review the information about Tesla published by Musk via his Twitter account.

      How do you like them apples?

    18. Re:Well, it isn't unexpected. by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      You didn't understand it the last three times it was explained to you, what good would explaining it in more detail do?! You apparently need less detail. Just stick to, "Yer rong!"

      Following this as a disinterested and broadly uninterested observer, the counter-argument to "Tesla is making a net loss as set out in their published accounts" seems to be just "well, they're making a gross profit so it doesn't matter".

      As anyone who has had anything to do with an actual business knows, it really doesn't matter what your revenue or gross profit is if you're making a net loss and end up going bust because of negative cash flow.

      Clearly, people invest in Tesla because they believe that, in the long run, they will increase sales enough to cover their losses. That is a prediction, not an accurate reflection of the present state of their finances.

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  2. Grand scheme of things by nightfire-unique · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wouldn't it be delicious if this derailed humanity's path to the stars long enough that we didn't make it as a species?

    I honestly can't think of a worse group of folks than financial lawyers, or a better group of people than SpaceX.

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    1. Re:Grand scheme of things by Thelasko · · Score: 3, Informative

      I honestly can't think of a worse group of folks than financial lawyers, or a better group of people than SpaceX.

      I'm not worried about SpaceX.

      1. This suit seeks to keep Musk from heading public companies. SpaceX is privately held.
      1. Gwynne Shotwell seems to be more than capable of running SpaceX.

      However, Tesla may be screwed.

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    2. Re:Grand scheme of things by asackett · · Score: 2

      Yes, let's just trash our home and then move out. Maybe leave an overturned car and some dead appliances stuffed with garbage in the yard, and abandon a few mangy dogs under the porch, too. If that's all the better humanity can do, then I hope we go extinct right here where we are.

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    3. Re:Grand scheme of things by nightfire-unique · · Score: 2

      Hey man, ... I don't disagree. We don't really deserve to spread our seed throughout the galaxy.

      But I think it is our responsibility. If we are the Universe's only life, it's our burden to make sure our descendents have the opportunity to make better choices than we have so far.

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    4. Re:Grand scheme of things by Mr_Silver · · Score: 2

      Wouldn't it be delicious if this derailed humanity's path to the stars long enough that we didn't make it as a species?

      I honestly can't think of a worse group of folks than financial lawyers, or a better group of people than SpaceX.

      I'm not sure I get your argument.

      It sounds like you're fine with him committing securities fraud because he's CEO of a company doing cool things.

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    5. Re:Grand scheme of things by nightfire-unique · · Score: 2

      You probably won't read this, but .. if you do:

      Recognize that people overwhelmingly agree with me (modded +5 within 30 minutes) and people overwhelmingly disagree with you (modded -1 within a few hours).

      It might be time to reevaluate your perspective on life.

      I used the word "delicious" ironically. If you're not a native English speaker, I apologize. I didn't mean to mislead you.

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  3. Re:I saw the update half done by Rei · · Score: 2

    They still incorrectly state "charges". They've sued Musk in a civil case.

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  4. Re:I saw the update half done by mlyle · · Score: 2

    The phrase "civil charges" is in wide use, including by the SEC: https://www.sec.gov/news/press...

    I agree with laypeople it carries the connotation of criminal charges.

  5. So by nightfire-unique · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On the one side, we have someone who could be humanity's best hope for escaping extinction.

    On the other side, we have a bunch of rich assholes trying gambling that he'll fail, and expecting to pull some money out of thin air if they're right.

    Part of me wants Elon to fail. We don't really deserve to spread our seed throughout the galaxy.

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    1. Re:So by Spy+Handler · · Score: 3, Insightful

      On the one side, we have someone who could be humanity's best hope for escaping extinction.

      You fogot the part where Musk also absolves your sins and lead you to the kingdom of heaven.

      On the other side, we have a bunch of rich assholes trying gambling that he'll fail, and expecting to pull some money out of thin air if they're right.

      So rich assholes put a gun to his head and made him say "Funding secured"? Even though there was no such funding? It was an outright lie. Unless you're Bill Clinton and you wanna debate what the definition of "is" is.

      Musk brought all of this upon himself, 100 percent. He should've laid off the Ambien and LSD, and gotten some decent nights sleep.

  6. Well, this will drive down the stock price. by cyn1c77 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe the SEC should sue itself too?

  7. Re:I saw the update half done by mlyle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No, dipshit.

      Section 10(b) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (“Exchange Act”) [15 U.S.C. 78j(b)] and Rule 10b-5 [17 C.F.R. 240.10b-5] thereunder.

    In no place does it say 240.10b-5(b).

  8. Re:Shortsellers are not investors by Comrade+Ogilvy · · Score: 2

    This makes me wonder what would happen if there were no rules about fraudulent claims.

    How would that work out? Would it be okay for a company to outright lie about, say, their profits?

    If I lie on a loan application about my income, I could conceivably be criminally and/or civilly liable. If Iie about certain facts about a car I am trying to sell you (e.g. I claim just had the brakes fixed, when my mechanic just confirmed my suspicion that the brakes were failing and I did not bother to have them fixed), I could conceivably be criminally and/or civilly liable.

    What is so different about a CEO of a company who is offering one millionth ownership of a company on the public market if the CEO lies about everything? What can't that be criminally and/or civilly actionable? What is gained by allowing unlimited leeway for what is fundamentally no different from any other kind of fraud?

    The idea that companies are honest now because they skate on the edges of the rules is laughable.

    The rules are not expected to achieve some generic state of consistent trustworthiness. They are to prevent outright lying about certain things, so that the marketplace is honest enough to consistently attract divers investors. In the long run, that can be a win-win. More access to capital for businesses. More access to different kinds of investments to the general public.

  9. Re:It's civil, not criminal, so it isn't fraud. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Investments in property, plant and equipment (capital investments) are amortized over their useful life (25-50 for buildings, 15 for robotics, 3 for computers, etc...)

    You are attempting to amortize all of the capital investments immediately, which is the only way that you can come up with numbers that show a loss on every vehicle.

    you are only demonstrating your complete lack of knowledge and not really being convincing beyond that

  10. Re:Ivana. 1992. by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

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    She changed her story later, probably in response to threats from Trump. And maybe she'll reveal why at some point in the future. But he clearly raped her, and you're clearly trying to make excuses for rape. That makes you rapey AF.

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  11. Re:It's civil, not criminal, so it isn't fraud. by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2

    You do understand they don't need to buy a robot for every car they make, right? They don't wear out after each car passes by.

    Revenue rises at a steeper slope than operational costs, and at some point they cross over - that would be what is referred to as "cash-flow positive". The question is when that crossover happens.

    This has been pointed out to you many times, but you don't ever listen. Either you're just spreading FUD because reasons, or you're completely daft and refuse to learn anything.

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  12. likely nothing will come from this, but.... by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    Musk really needs to get a president into Tesla to handle day-2-day stuff.

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    1. Re:likely nothing will come from this, but.... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Or just delete his Twitter account.

      The fraud, the accusations of paedophilia, the unfulfilled promises to Tesla owners... They all come from his tweets.

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  13. How's life in the hypocrite lane?