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Trump Administration Sees a 7-Degree Rise in Global Temperatures By 2100 (washingtonpost.com)

Last month, deep in a 500-page environmental impact statement, the Trump administration made a startling assumption: On its current course, the planet will warm a disastrous 7 degrees by the end of this century. From a report: A rise of 7 degrees Fahrenheit, or about 4 degrees Celsius, compared with preindustrial levels would be catastrophic, according to scientists. Many coral reefs would dissolve in increasingly acidic oceans. Parts of Manhattan and Miami would be underwater without costly coastal defenses. Extreme heat waves would routinely smother large parts of the globe. But the administration did not offer this dire forecast as part of an argument to combat climate change. Just the opposite: The analysis assumes the planet's fate is already sealed. The draft statement, issued by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), was written to justify President Trump's decision to freeze federal fuel efficiency standards for cars and light trucks built after 2020. While the proposal would increase greenhouse gas emissions, the impact statement says, that policy would add just a very small drop to a very big, hot bucket.

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  1. Solved, and then some by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Space Force will fix it by orbiting thousands of sun umbrellas, and all the rockets will be made in the former rustbelt in bustling rocket factories. We thought he was a babbling lunatic, but it all makes sense now! Sorry I doubted. MAGA!

  2. Why bother with climate science? by ilsaloving · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I dunno why climate scientists even bother anymore.

    Scientists: "The world is going to overheat if we don't do something!"
    Everyone else: We don't believe you cause I had to put on a sweater yesterday! And your data is wrong and sketchy!

    Scientists: "Ok it's even worse than we thought and we're already starting to see the effects!"
    Everyone else: Oh well, too late now. Fuck it. *throws environmental standards out the window*

    It's awe inspiring. It really is.

  3. Re:science not emotion by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 5, Informative

    So the US produces 3x as much CO2 output per person than China?

  4. Re:science not emotion by Barsteward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Currently but the USA is the biggest per capita. China is actually investing heavily in renewables and leading in the field so their output will start to decline at some point. So you can help by not buying cheap chinese goods and not being so individually wasteful with resources and bring down the per capita usage levels.

    --
    "The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
  5. Re:science not emotion by thegarbz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are loads of far lefties here combined with trolls that will scream that China deserves to pollute.

    They do not. But what they also don't deserve to do is get criticised for producing 1/3rd of the emissions per capita compared to the USA.

    Physician heal thyself.

  6. Re:science not emotion by ath1901 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Your numbers do not support the statement "the big emitter is not the USA, it doesn't matter what the USA does.". 5 Gt is not insignificant compared to 10 Gt. But, even if it was, the argument would still be flawed which can be easily seen if you bring it full circle:

    1. France only emits 300,000 kt which is "nothing" (6%) compared to the US 5,000,000 kt so it doesn't matter what France does.
    2. USA only emits 5,000,000 kt which is "nothing" (50%) compared to Chinas 10,000,000 kt so it doesn't matter what the USA does.
    3. China only emits 10,000,000 kt which is "nothing" (30%) compared to the total of 36,000,000 kt so it doesn't matter what China does.

    So, by that logic it doesn't matter if China reduces its emissions unless everyone else does since China emit "nothing" of the total. But all countries (like France) emit "nothing" of the total so it doesn't matter what anyone does.

    The obvious solution is of course global cooperation and international agreements but... I guess you don't like that either, especially since good arguments are made why the developed world should take a larger part of the costs than the developing world (historical emissions, economic headroom, emissions per capita etc).

    I used the numbers from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  7. Corollary by DavidMZ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A more fuel efficient car may be trading passenger lives for higher miles per gallon.

    A heavier, less fuel efficient vehicle may be trading safety of the occupants of other vehicles it may get into an accident with for the safety of its occupants.