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AmigaOS 3.1.4 For Classic Amigas Released (hyperion-entertainment.com)
Mike Bouma shares the announcement from Hyperior Entertainment, which holds exclusive rights to AmigaOS: The new, cleaned-up, polished Amiga operating system for your 68K machine fixes all the small annoyances that have piled up over the years. Originally intended as a bug-fix release, it also modernizes many system components previously upgraded in OS 3.9. Contrary to its modest revision number, AmigaOS 3.1.4 is arguably as large an upgrade as OS 3.9 was, and surpasses it in stability and robustness. Over 320K of release notes cover almost every aspect of your favorite classic AmigaOS -- from bootmenu to datatypes. Some of the highlights mentioned include: Over 20 Kickstart ROM modules and many more disk-based core OS components were fixed, updated, or added; Support for large hard disks; A modernized Workbench; and A colorful, professionally designed icon set is included, along with the traditional four-color icons.
Nice, but at the time of publication the slashdot article has no hyperlinks to downloads or release notes (or even to a goatse).
...the submission was sent via snail mail. You must order a floppy disk for $29.99, with a 6-8 week shipping time.
http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz/index.php/where-to-buy/direct-downloads/188-amigaos-314
Gimme some beach balls!
I do all my shopping at ComputerLand.
...gets outsized by a gnat.
Will he make cool patches or focus on DragonFly and occasional FreeBSd patches instead
http://saveie6.com/
I'm that nerdy.
"I'm so moist I'm sticking to the leather." -Kermit the Frog on The Late Late Show
Holy cow people. I swear to god, Amiga people are a thousand times worse than Apple people.
Amiga died...a long, long time ago. Let it lie in peace. Itâ(TM)s long past time to move on. Start dating again...find a new girl. No, she wonâ(TM)t be the same as the one you loved, but at least she will put out.
Says the Apple guy with all his â(TM)s and â(TM)t's.
How does their number work? Shouldn't this be 3.10 or 3.14?
Haage & Partner released AmigaOS 3.9 in the 90's which definitely was an upgrade to 3.1. It had a much better version of the formatting and partitioning tools. It also had a few updates to the user interface and the text to speech voice phonemes were updated. So, it sounded different when you told it to say "This is Amiga speaking." Now, this update is from Hyperion. I haven't seen it yet, but I'm highly suspicious (but nonetheless curious). They have a fairly shady and shaky claim to rights to AmigaOS and Kickstart. However, they are very *loud* about those claims. Notice even in the announcement they want you to know they are the *sole* IP holder. I'm not a lawyer, but Hyperion has always seemed like a jumped up small-game company grabbing for lost Amiga glory. It's rumored that they bought the IP for Kickstart for $1 between a couple of friends. There are several other IP holders such as Cloanto in Italy and a few ex-licensees (or so they claim) in the USA too. One more colorful guy was an ex-trucker who wanted to resurrect the Amiga as a PC (the horror! and no 68k - blasphemer!). Who knows what lost legal deals ESCOM and Gateway did when they owned, the IP, too. The Amiga historical landscape is littered with people claiming to own the various critical trademarks such as AmigaOS, Amiga, Kickstart, and so forth. Nobody will know for sure until there is a knock down drag-out lawsuit and somebody goes home crying. The problem is, there is so few bucks left to make it's not worth the hassle. The Vampire Amiga folks are doing amazing things with their FPGA Apollo 68080 core. I run one in an Amiga 500 and it takes all comers. Not everything is perfect or stable, but it gives you RTG, upgraded sound, HDMI output, half a gig of RAM (a lot for Amiga apps), wifi, MicroSD storage, IDE, and a smoking fast processor that will eat the 68060 alive many times over. Highly recommended.
Cool story, incel.
AROS is a failure. There are like two guys working in the wilderness on it. MorphOS and AmigaOS v4.x both did a bunch of un-Amiga things like adopt Unix-like programming APIs. Now, don't get me wrong. I *love* Unixy stuff. However, it's just not appropriate for the Amiga. It was always meant to be a lean and mean close to the metal programming platform. The custom chips allow you to take control of the hardware in surprisingly straightforward ways. If you have some cop following you around everywhere policing all your memory usage, it's great for stability, but blows for performance. Newer hardware using the PPC is utter trash and total blasphemy against the 68k CISC ISA, too. The PPC sucked for ASM coders and MOS + AOS4 both embraced the new school "let's wrap everything in bubble wrap" philosophy. Yes, it makes them more stable and easier to port things like web browsers over to. However, it also takes away from their microcomputer appeal and hardware hackability. All the newschool Amigas feel sterile and neutered. There isn't anything really cool about them as they just look like low-powered PCs with commodity hardware. To some, that's exactly what they wanted. To others, it sucks balls. What we really need is for a braver group of coders to do a clean room implementation of AmigaOS 3.1 which was leaked years ago. Just ignore Hyperion (they are in .nl anyway). Let them threaten to sue and freak out. They've come with too little WAY too late. AmigaOS doesn't need to morph into Ubuntu, it needs to embrace the 3.x roots that made the Amiga "a console with a keyboard" not "just another PC". I have tried to re-write parts of the OS myself, but it's a HUGE job and I get stuck on the BCPL linker crap every time.
Think of it as an update to 3.1, not as a new entry in the 3.x line.
This is based on the AmigaOS 3.1 codebase and doesn't use code from 3.5 or 3.9. Also 3.5 and 3.9 had higher system requirements, but this version will run on any amiga.
Calling it 3.10 or 3.14 would have been just as confusing because then people would have assumed that it was based on 3.9 and had the corresponding system requirements. It's a bit of a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation because either way somebody is going to be confused.
The press release says "3.1.4 is arguably as large an upgrade as OS 3.9 was, and surpasses it in stability and robustness". They're not saying "this is the version after 3.9", they're just comparing it to the size/reliability of 3.9.
http://www.hyperion-entertainm...
Is there anyone who knows enough to fix this?
Sent as ripples into the electromagnetic field. No single photon has been harmed in the process.
No, the Amiga folks are not really that bad. Now, the Atari ST guys -- those people are freaks! :D
Is IMHO the nearest thing o AmigaOS you can have today .
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How many Amiga users own a Classic Amiga machine in 2018, vs how many nostalgic Amiga fans emulate the Amiga on an Intel platform? For the latter user base, the question remains, how much it would cost to have a legal copy of an Amiga ROM plus a legal copy of the Amiga OS update mentioned in this article?
There were many versions of the Motorola 68K processor. Does this update to the OS apply to all versions of the 68K used on Amiga machines?
Oh that's nothing. Some religious folk keep pretending their messiah is alive after 2000 years of his death!
The RAM requirement to start Amigaos now is 2 megabyte. But on 3.0 it was half megabyte. You have to upgrade your Amiga to run 3.1.4 update.
So you can run 3.0 on your Amiga 500 with 1 or 1.5 megabyte RAM expansion, but there is no way to run 3.1.4 unless you buy more hardware.
It was always meant to be a lean and mean close to the metal programming platform. The custom chips allow you to take control of the hardware in surprisingly straightforward ways.
Not always.
When developing the AGA chipset they realized that it was problematic to have the users hit the hardware so close since that meant that the new chipset had to have complete backwards compatibility for a lot of tricky stuff.
That is why they decided to not release any proper hardware reference manual for the AGA chipset.
Even in the documents floating around you will have problems finding out how to handle PCMCIA interrupts and stuff.
BestWB is an unofficial new workbench pack: "much like BetterWB. It aims to be much like an enhancement, an updated extension to AmigaOS 3.1.4, without all those hardware penalties typically associated with these kind of packs."
http://lilliput.amiga-projects...
Also 3.5 and 3.9 had higher system requirements, but this version will run on any amiga.
Requires at least 2MB of memory, most of it will be used by the OS.
If you intend to use the OS for anything else than changing the backdrop picture you will need a memory expansion.
Note that the common bottom slot memory expansion of A500 only takes you up to 1MB so it won't even be enough to start the OS. Much less to actually run a program.
This is "yet another OS for Amiga with accelerator board".
then you must be a beta tester... I have searched for the V4 version (512 MB memory) for Amiga 500 and Amiga 1200 for almost a year now... yet it is still not released to the public, only v2 is in the wild, except for some beta versions of V4... also... the core must be fairly new? last I checked, they were still trying to get eveything to work on the beta version of the V4 core, something about the new FPGA being vastly different from the one used in V2?
You order electronic download from Hyperion Entertainment. They list 5 separate downloads depending on your Amiga model
http://hyperion-entertainment.biz/index.php/where-to-buy/direct-downloads/188-amigaos-314
You've had 30 years to upgrade your A500. 3.1.4 requirements are almost identical to 3.1
All Amiga's are 'old'. 3.1.4 has almost the same requirements as 3.1, assuming you buy an updated ROM (else it patches the existing ROM, which needs RAM).
>3.1.4 requirements are almost identical to 3.1
yes if you think 2 mb is "almost identical" to 0.5 mb. you dont know how amiga and amigaos works. 3.0 and 3.1 have reasonable 0.5mb requirement. thats a fact, and you can verify using emulator easily.
My A500 has enough memory to use it, and comfortably so.
I still don't intend to install 3.1.4 on it and no, the requirements are not almost identical to 3.1 unless the real memory requirements are closer to 5% of what they claim.
Realistically, its smart if you ever want to see a small time os ever hope to get many developers. I for one wouldn't want to waste my time on creaky old Amiga apis when I could apply posix api knowledge after a fashion... That would make me much more likely to e.g. Consider porting an app..., also could make it easeasier for those with half a clue to gobble together a mostly working app from another odd project, or at least more quickly assuming that they are capable of at least somewhat increasing their cluedness...
Oh crap. I’ve owned both.
But then again, I am married, with several kids. Does that mean I need to turn my back on them?
I do keep thinking about getting the old Amiga going just to play Lemmings the way it should be played.
Microsoft said at the release of Windows 95 that OS/2 was dead. But OS/2 still lives on today and currently runs on all modern hardware. You can find your copies at http://www.ecomstation.com and or https://www.arcanoae.com/
Just because you drank the Microsoft cool-aid doesn't mean everyone else drank it too.
I was there when Hyperion signed the contract to gain perpetual rights to develop Amiga OS "Classic" and distribute it, including Kickstart. They were the only ones interested in doing it at the time, and Amiga Inc. had no money to pay someone and they were more focused on their stupid Java game platform and other "next generation Amiga" nonsense.
The guys, two brothers, doing most of the coding know what they are doing with Amiga OS. They had developed a fair bit of other stuff for the platform... It's a while back now but I seem to recall they did one of the PPC systems, and a 3D API for the then brand new 3D accelerator cards that could connect to the Blizzard accelerator boards or to Zorro-PCI bridge cards. I remember we had extensive discussions about how to overcome the bandwidth limitations of those systems, which were preventing the 68k CPU from keeping the relatively primitive cards of the day operating at anywhere near 100% load. Just copying the scene geometry over was a bottleneck, let alone swapping textures in and out.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Why bother re-writing the OS at all? If you want to treat it like a console, hit the metal directly, you don't need the OS.
Make libraries for self-booting games and enough of a Kickstart to run the bootblock from floppy. Throw in some debugging tools to help cross-compile and download from another machine.
I've been wanting to get back in to Amiga coding for ages. I hear that WinUAE makes a good development environment now... Not least because you can do stuff that was impossible on real hardware, like examine DMA slot allocation for maximum optimization.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
[Hardware] How much is the new Amiga Computers?
[Software] Would it be better for Amiga to sell Amiga Operating System in a virtual environment compared to selling hardware?
YOU *DO WANT* TO BE ABLE TO F****** COMPILE POSIX SOFTWARE. since you don't program, this attitude could be forgiven, but just trust me, it is something you want. so lighten up ok?
You sound like someone who does not write software - Anyone who does, and wants to actually put time in to Amiga, on their own - is going to want to use some standard tools they already know how to use - that is the only way you get serious traction and get seriously good software which already exists, ported to Amiga to take advantage of it's amazing peculiarities.
Open up your perspective a little - Genode/SL4 can run Linux drivers securely in isolation . all this stuff is good and needs to be explored.
Make the new coding languages, Rust, Nim, Go, and a few others, first class citizens on Amiga - and how you have huge libraries to build the next gen of native Amiga apps!
you guys
3.1.4 is 3.1 with bug fixes. The extra memory is to patch the 3.1 modules with updated versions.
If you use a 3.1.4 ROM the patches are not needed. The release contains a 3.1.4 ROM image for you to burn to an EPROM or real ROMs will be available at a later date.
3.x & 0.5mb is only usable if you are running from floppy. Even in the 90s anyone using an Amiga for non-games had a HD.
MorphOS and AmigaOS v4.x both did a bunch of un-Amiga things like adopt Unix-like programming APIs.
This statement is plain wrong. Care to ellaborate which "Unix-like programming API" you disliked on MorphOS? Cause I can't recall any. Both systems provide one or two different libc implementations and MorphOS even bundles ixemul.library which also *DO* exist on classic Amiga, and it's only there to ease porting of POSIX applications. But using these are optional. You can fully use classic Amiga APIs and these are greatly extended too, compared to classic.
If you have some cop following you around everywhere policing all your memory usage, it's great for stability, but blows for performance.
Classic Amiga had a tool called Enforcer, which allowed partial memory protection on systems with MMU. This was primarily a debugging/development tool, because of its performance hit on a 25Mhz 030 or so. However, on next-gen systems the CPUs are fast enough so you can just always leave it on.
I have tried to re-write parts of the OS myself, but it's a HUGE job and I get stuck on the BCPL linker crap every time.
Time to start embracing the work AROS and MorphOS people did then, instead of throwing mud on them in a public forum, I guess.
Amiga is DEAD, only necrophiles love the amiga.
Throw your amiga in the trash asap !!!!
:D amiga is more deader than linux desktop. Also linux desktop has a small chance to be ressurected, amiga no more .
Jesus(as) never died and he will come back with Imam al-Mahdi(ajfs).
MorphOS did no such thing. OS4 on the other hand....
That sounds like a LOT of work, to address a very small audience...
Ah. Looks like you answered your own suggestion here.
I think your time would be better spent contributing to AROS, or taking an existing, fully functional OS and customizing it to include things you like about AmigaOS.