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New Yorkers Sue Trump and FEMA To Stop Presidential Alert (cnet.com)
Not everyone is pleased to hear that President Trump has the power to use communications systems in case of an emergency. According to CNET, three New York residents recently filed a lawsuit against President Trump and William Long, administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, to halt FEMA's new Presidential Alert messaging system.
The lawsuit reads in part: "Plaintiffs are American citizens who do not wish to receive text messages, or messages of any kind, on any topic or subject, from defendant Trump. [Trump's] rise to power was facilitated by weaponized disinformation that he broadcast into the public information sphere via Twitter in addition to traditional mass media." From the report: Presidential Alerts are similar to Amber or other emergency alerts on your phone -- you hear a loud noise comes along with vibration. The messages come from the Integrated Public Alert and Warning System (IPAWS), which attempts to send the alert to every cell phone within the U.S. operating on a network run by a carrier opting into the Wireless Emergency Alert system. IPAWS is used in the event of natural disasters, acts of terrorism or other disasters or threats to public safety. The plaintiffs' main complaint is that Presidential Alerts are compulsory -- there's no way to opt-out of receiving them. They argue that under civil rights law, government cannot use cellular devices to compel listening, "trespass into and hijack" devices without a warrant or individual consent.
The plaintiffs are also concerned Trump might use the alerts to spread disinformation because IPAWS doesn't regulate the content of the messages. That means Trump may be free to define "act of terrorism" and "threat to public safety," and may broadcast "arbitrary, biased, irrational" messages to "hundreds of millions of people," the plaintiffs say in the lawsuit.
The lawsuit reads in part: "Plaintiffs are American citizens who do not wish to receive text messages, or messages of any kind, on any topic or subject, from defendant Trump. [Trump's] rise to power was facilitated by weaponized disinformation that he broadcast into the public information sphere via Twitter in addition to traditional mass media." From the report: Presidential Alerts are similar to Amber or other emergency alerts on your phone -- you hear a loud noise comes along with vibration. The messages come from the Integrated Public Alert and Warning System (IPAWS), which attempts to send the alert to every cell phone within the U.S. operating on a network run by a carrier opting into the Wireless Emergency Alert system. IPAWS is used in the event of natural disasters, acts of terrorism or other disasters or threats to public safety. The plaintiffs' main complaint is that Presidential Alerts are compulsory -- there's no way to opt-out of receiving them. They argue that under civil rights law, government cannot use cellular devices to compel listening, "trespass into and hijack" devices without a warrant or individual consent.
The plaintiffs are also concerned Trump might use the alerts to spread disinformation because IPAWS doesn't regulate the content of the messages. That means Trump may be free to define "act of terrorism" and "threat to public safety," and may broadcast "arbitrary, biased, irrational" messages to "hundreds of millions of people," the plaintiffs say in the lawsuit.
how clueless, President Barack Obama signed the Integrated Public Alert and Warning System Modernization Act of 2015.
And the messages are from FEMA.
Beside this fools in major media outlets are embarrassing themselves with their ignorance, spewing about "Trump's messages"
...because it is idiotic, and could apply to EAS, or EBS before it, delivered via any medium, including radio and TV, or even warning sirens.
https://nypost.com/2018/10/03/...
One of the chief purposes and reasons for being for EAS (and EBS) is for the President to get a message directly to the American people in the event of a major national emergency.
It's a system that is desperately needed, and was expanded to include Wireless Emergency Alerts (WEA) via the IPAWS legislation signed into law by President Obama.
And though we hope the system is never used, it does need to be tested.
https://slate.com/technology/2...
...you guys are still butt hurt over the 2016 election.
But really, you don't want FEMA messages because they "come from Trump"? You know this system was authorized by President Obama, right?
-Styopa
Yeah, no shit. I recall this being set up during the Obama Administration, and I also remember how badly it failed due to problems integrating it into the larger national alert system.
The original bill that created this national FEMA alert was passed in 2006. Bush then signed a bill that modified it in 2008. The original test was scheduled to happen during the hurricane Florence. So it was moved to today. Just another opportunity to smear Trump.
"Presidential" alerts actually go back to the 1960s when people were afraid of nuclear attack by Russia. It gave the president (Kennedy) the power to alert Americans "We are under attack. Held to your shelters."
Fast-forward to now, it's still the same system to provide Fast warning to the citizens, but expanded from TV and radio to include cellphones.
Big deal.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
They are buried to be sure, but on my Android Pixel 2 running 9.0 Pie I can find them here:
Apps & Notifications -> Emergency Alerts -> Emergency alert history
Look, I hate Trump probably as much as anyone. But this lawsuit is dumb.
You do not need to qualify it. Just say it:
This is dumb. The people doing it are dumb or partisan.
That is it. Adding in the wink and nod means you are trying to impress people who, if they do not agree with you on this stupidly obvious point, are not going to be convinced anyway.
Because he is using the federal emergency system to test.... the federal emergency system?
This is why I fucking hate the Democrats. It's not a "good thing" or "bad thing" with them. It's a bad person, and EVERY SINGLE THING HE DOES is resisted and casted in the worst possible light, every time. It gets old.
Besides, you can't sue the president for something the law essentially requires him to do.
I'd understand if people hated some of the things he says or does, and I've been a supporter of democratic candidates, but such unbridled hatred towards him has made me so fed up, I hope he just crushes them in the mid terms, gets his judge appointed, and is re-elected in 2020. Not because I am a fan or care, but because I think it's not as bad as the democratic behavior which is purely obstructionism and hatred at this point. I want to see them lose just because of the vitriol they spew.
Ultimately, he won the election. No matter who does, I want them to succeed, because success is success for my country.
> You can also, as amply demonstrated by yourself, falsely claim that any witnesses at all(let alone every one of them) refute and deny claims even as what they really said is that they don't remember any specific incidents
So why doesn't Ford's life long friend remember the party where her friend was almost raped, where she had to flee down a short, narrow stairwell, and where she had no way home, due to cell phones not existing yet?
âoeSimply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford,â Howard Walsh, an attorney for Keyser, wrote.
Somehow, no one but Ford remembers this party at all. Somehow her friend didn't notice her missing from a gathering of 4-6 people (depending on when Ford was asked), despite her having to flee from two drunks and out the door. Ford did not know how she got to this party, who introduced her to the gathering, or how she got home.
Remember how she kept pushing for the dates that Kav's friend worked at the grocery store to pin things down? Pity it wasn't built until 1986, when Kav was no longer there. How did she meet Kav's friend there shortly after a party in 1982? Oh, and the second front door they went to counseling over? It was built in 2008 according to public records, not 2012, when they were fighting over it. It also doesn''t provide an escape route, just a second access for people who were renting the place. The notes don't mention Kav at all, either. The polygraph? I love how she changed the date on her account on the paper, doesn't know when it happened, or who paid for it.
The lady who questioned her goes into great detail as to why there's nothing to substantiate the account.
Oh, and the ice thing? Try reading the actual police report. I doubt it says what you think it does. But yes, feel free to regurgitate second-hand allegations without looking at primary sources, like the various property records, maps, etc. that show how her story keeps changing in response to people discovering it couldn't have happened the way it was remembered earlier. But yes, please tell me how speculation regarding various nonsense words that were more recently defined on Urban Dictionary (which also did not exist in 1982) is somehow "proof" of something, because you got caught in a lie when trying to attack a man who lives a life orderly enough to have calendars from 1982.
Oh my goodness. No. I live in Los Angeles. Jokes on you.
Besides. I didn't say I supported Trump, I said I don't support the vitriol and obstructionism. I'm sorry, but Obama never was sued for issuing alerts. This is just pure bullshit.
Well, they can be but it depends on a several factors such as distance, yield and number of hits.
I built a a high end bomb shelter (decontamination showers, weapon lockers, air handling, etc.) when I was a contractor in the 80's. If you're far enough away from a single blast, you can survive the flash burn in almost any building. Even then, the serious problem comes from multiple hits, e.g., a sporadic exchange. Very difficult to deal with that. The fallout is actually the easiest to deal with. The over pressure is the problem from a construction standpoint.
>>Basically, and I am no expert, a few minutes could give you enough time to go into a bunker which would protect you from the initial explosion and irradiation, and from there, you might be able to plot an escape from the fallout zone.
Step 1: Build a serious bunker. Oops, don't have one and your very cooperative neighbors don't either? Screwed, you are..
Peace is easy to achieve, just surrender. Liberty is much harder get/keep.
Talk about blind fanatics.
So we'll believe she has "indelibly etched in her hippocampus" fantastically detailed, second by second replay memory of events in a closed room, which no one else was privy to, but then cannot remember where it was, when it was, how she got there, who drove her home. If she was in fact so traumatized as to be "afraid he'd kill me", she would definitely remember these details, but she can only remember those things which cannot be verified or debunked. Isn't that convenient. Her own best friends says she has no idea what she's talking about. There are no verifiable facts to work with here, nothing but her heresay.
Therefore he has no way to "prove innocence" as many say he must (a disgusting term to begin with, and leftists bitch about Russia??) because there is NO evidence to work with.
False accusations happen, but particularly when politics are at stake.
Stop watching CNN and their "drunken frat boy" character assassination. Just about every college kid drinks. Obama smoked weed and snorted coke, but he became POTUS. So I guess he wasn't fit for his job either, by this same logic.
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