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New Yorkers Sue Trump and FEMA To Stop Presidential Alert (cnet.com)

Not everyone is pleased to hear that President Trump has the power to use communications systems in case of an emergency. According to CNET, three New York residents recently filed a lawsuit against President Trump and William Long, administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, to halt FEMA's new Presidential Alert messaging system.

The lawsuit reads in part: "Plaintiffs are American citizens who do not wish to receive text messages, or messages of any kind, on any topic or subject, from defendant Trump. [Trump's] rise to power was facilitated by weaponized disinformation that he broadcast into the public information sphere via Twitter in addition to traditional mass media." From the report: Presidential Alerts are similar to Amber or other emergency alerts on your phone -- you hear a loud noise comes along with vibration. The messages come from the Integrated Public Alert and Warning System (IPAWS), which attempts to send the alert to every cell phone within the U.S. operating on a network run by a carrier opting into the Wireless Emergency Alert system. IPAWS is used in the event of natural disasters, acts of terrorism or other disasters or threats to public safety. The plaintiffs' main complaint is that Presidential Alerts are compulsory -- there's no way to opt-out of receiving them. They argue that under civil rights law, government cannot use cellular devices to compel listening, "trespass into and hijack" devices without a warrant or individual consent.

The plaintiffs are also concerned Trump might use the alerts to spread disinformation because IPAWS doesn't regulate the content of the messages. That means Trump may be free to define "act of terrorism" and "threat to public safety," and may broadcast "arbitrary, biased, irrational" messages to "hundreds of millions of people," the plaintiffs say in the lawsuit.

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  1. idiots, not from Trump, not authorized by Trump by iggymanz · · Score: 5, Informative

    how clueless, President Barack Obama signed the Integrated Public Alert and Warning System Modernization Act of 2015.

    And the messages are from FEMA.

    Beside this fools in major media outlets are embarrassing themselves with their ignorance, spewing about "Trump's messages"

  2. The request for a TRO was already rejected... by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...because it is idiotic, and could apply to EAS, or EBS before it, delivered via any medium, including radio and TV, or even warning sirens.

    https://nypost.com/2018/10/03/...

    One of the chief purposes and reasons for being for EAS (and EBS) is for the President to get a message directly to the American people in the event of a major national emergency.

    It's a system that is desperately needed, and was expanded to include Wireless Emergency Alerts (WEA) via the IPAWS legislation signed into law by President Obama.

    And though we hope the system is never used, it does need to be tested.

    https://slate.com/technology/2...

  3. We get it... by argStyopa · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...you guys are still butt hurt over the 2016 election.

    But really, you don't want FEMA messages because they "come from Trump"? You know this system was authorized by President Obama, right?

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    -Styopa
  4. Re: idiots, not from Trump, not authorized by Trum by Noishkel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yeah, no shit. I recall this being set up during the Obama Administration, and I also remember how badly it failed due to problems integrating it into the larger national alert system.

  5. Origin was in 2006 by Woldscum · · Score: 4, Informative

    The original bill that created this national FEMA alert was passed in 2006. Bush then signed a bill that modified it in 2008. The original test was scheduled to happen during the hurricane Florence. So it was moved to today. Just another opportunity to smear Trump.

  6. Re:Such a misguided idea... by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Presidential" alerts actually go back to the 1960s when people were afraid of nuclear attack by Russia. It gave the president (Kennedy) the power to alert Americans "We are under attack. Held to your shelters."

    Fast-forward to now, it's still the same system to provide Fast warning to the citizens, but expanded from TV and radio to include cellphones.

    Big deal.

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    "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
  7. Re:There are more than two arthropods by koick · · Score: 4, Informative

    They are buried to be sure, but on my Android Pixel 2 running 9.0 Pie I can find them here:
    Apps & Notifications -> Emergency Alerts -> Emergency alert history

  8. Re: Yeah, I am a trump supporter... by saloomy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because he is using the federal emergency system to test.... the federal emergency system?

    This is why I fucking hate the Democrats. It's not a "good thing" or "bad thing" with them. It's a bad person, and EVERY SINGLE THING HE DOES is resisted and casted in the worst possible light, every time. It gets old.

    Besides, you can't sue the president for something the law essentially requires him to do.

    I'd understand if people hated some of the things he says or does, and I've been a supporter of democratic candidates, but such unbridled hatred towards him has made me so fed up, I hope he just crushes them in the mid terms, gets his judge appointed, and is re-elected in 2020. Not because I am a fan or care, but because I think it's not as bad as the democratic behavior which is purely obstructionism and hatred at this point. I want to see them lose just because of the vitriol they spew.

    Ultimately, he won the election. No matter who does, I want them to succeed, because success is success for my country.