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Artificial Sweeteners Are Toxic To Digestive Gut Bacteria, Study Finds (cnbc.com)

According to a study published in the journal Molecules, researchers found that six common artificial sweeteners approved by the FDA and 10 sport supplements that contained them were found to be toxic to the digestive gut microbes of mice. CNBC reports: Researchers from Ben-Gurion University of the Negev in Israel and Nanyang Technological University in Singapore tested the toxicity of aspartame, sucralose, saccharine, neotame, advantame, and acesulfame potassium-k. They observed that when exposed to only 1 milligram per milliliter of the artificial sweeteners, the bacteria found in the digestive system became toxic. According to the study, the gut microbial system "plays a key role in human metabolism," and artificial sweeteners can "affect host health, such as inducing glucose intolerance." Additionally, some of the effects of the new FDA-approved sweeteners, such as neotame, are still unknown.

However, the study found that mice treated with the artificial sweetener neotame had different metabolic patterns than those not treated, and several important genes found in the human gut had decreased. Additionally, concentrations of several fatty acids, lipids and cholesterol were higher in mice treated with neotame than in those not. Because of the widespread use of artificial sweeteners in drinks and foods, many people consume them without knowing it.

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  1. These results are not correctly referenced by fredrikv · · Score: 5, Informative

    Please correct the text, the referenced study is about neotame only and does not investigate the other mentioned molecules or products. The CNBC article is probably to blame as it is misleading on which results were obtained in which study.

    1. Re:These results are not correctly referenced by mentil · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I skimmed through that study. It found that neotame disrupted the balance of the microbiome, metabolism of certain vitamins and other nutrients, and the metabolic pathways. However, body weight of the experimental and control groups were the same after 4 weeks, which was buried in the end although it'd been predicted that body weight should've dropped. I'm unsure if the disruption is enough to potentially lead to malnutrition, although metabolic syndrome and various gut disorders are specifically mentioned in the paper as possible effects.
      Also, apparently it's considered humane to euthanize mice with CO2? I'd think that'd cause painful asphyxiation.

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    2. Re:These results are not correctly referenced by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The CNBC article confuses two studies: Neotame in mice and Artificial sweeteners on a bacterial panel.

      The second of these does indeed test the toxicity of all the named sweeteners, albeit only on a model of gut bacteria (bioluminescent E.coli) in a laboratory setting.

      Sucralose and neotame were found to inhibit E.coli bioluminescence. Saccharin, aspartame and ace-k induced it.

      What does that mean? Your guess is as good as mine.

    3. Re:These results are not correctly referenced by afxgrin · · Score: 5, Informative

      Directly from the paper in the summary:

      Department of Environmental Sciences and Engineering, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, NC 27599, USA
      Department of Environmental Health Science, University of Georgia, Athens, GA 30602, USA
      Department of Population Health and Pathobiology, North Carolina State University, Raleigh, NC 27607, USA

      None of these are Ben-Gurion University or Nanyang Technological University.
      The correct paper is:
      Measuring Artificial Sweeteners Toxicity Using a Bioluminescent Bacterial Panel

    4. Re:These results are not correctly referenced by jtgd · · Score: 4, Informative

      No, you're thinking of nitrogen. CO2 will make you die in extreme panic.

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    5. Re:These results are not correctly referenced by oldfrog · · Score: 2

      There is more than 1 study, a quick click on the "artificial sweeteners" keywords at the end of the abstract, will provide the other studies.

    6. Re:These results are not correctly referenced by Rei · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The study was published in a MDPI journal. MDPI has some serious reputational problems (more here).

      The concentrations given were around a thousand of times a normal neotame dose (equivalent to dozens of milligrams for an adult human, where normal daily neotame intake is in the dozens of micrograms) (or over a hundred times a normal dose if you accept their 12,5x human:mouse exchange factor, although that seems misguided since they're testing effects on bacteria, not direct effects on the animal). One thing that's notably absent IMHO is the glaring omission of discussion of the mice's food consumption. It's not even clear whether the pelleted diet is ad libitum or whether just the water is ("standard pelleted rodent diet and tap water ad libitum"). If the pelleted diet is ad libitum then it seems utter incompetence to not discuss changes in dietary consumption when doing a gut flora study.

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    7. Re:These results are not correctly referenced by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Also, apparently it's considered humane to euthanize mice with CO2? I'd think that'd cause painful asphyxiation.

      That's a common misconception. It actually depends on the concentration. In a pure CO2 atmosphere, the oxygen levels in the blood will drop so fast that the body will lose consciousness before the brain becomes aware of suffocation. It only gets painful if CO2 levels rise slowly enough, for example when breathing in an enclosed space.

    8. Re:These results are not correctly referenced by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wait. So how much Diet Coke do I need to quaff before my shit glows in the dark?

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    9. Re:These results are not correctly referenced by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Informative

      Also, apparently it's considered humane to euthanize mice with CO2? I'd think that'd cause painful asphyxiation.

      It depends on the air mixture. Inhaling a dense cloud of CO2 results in immediate unconsciousness followed by death.

      This phenomenon has been documented as it happened to a village by a lake where tons of CO2 spewed out from a lakebed and killed many people by the lake. The people who suffered were the ones who survived but were still exposed as it caused them to cough until they bled.

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    10. Re:These results are not correctly referenced by necro81 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Or maybe CO, which is OK because it's one less.

      Actually, yes, death by carbon monoxide poisoning would be preferrable to carbon dioxide.

      In the former case, you get drowsy, fall asleep, and eventually asphyxiate. CO binds to hemoglobin, preventing your blood from taking up oxygen. You die of hypoxia, which is generally thought of being pretty painless. (If hypoxia were painful, then high-altitude mountaineering would be impossible, rather than just merely hard.) A similar death would occur in a depressurized airline cabin if you don't put your mask on. CO poisoning happens to a 100s of people each year in the U.S. due to faulty heating systems. One reason deaths result is because people aren't aware that it's even happening - they just fall asleep, then die. This is why your home should have at least one CO detector per floor.

      Carbon dioxide poisoning, on the other hand, is definitely a rough way to go. Hold your breath for a while and you'll see what I mean. That panic you're feeling, the tightening of the chest, the burning, that's caused by your brainstem realizing your blood has built up too much CO2. At low levels, high CO2 concentration in the air will make your irritable, give you a headache, and generally make it hard to function at your best. (Astronaut Scott Kelly complained about this a lot during his year on the ISS.) Taken higher, and your entire body becomes acidotic, and that feeling of drowning becomes all-encompassing. Eventually, your metabolism will break down at a cellular level as your blood becomes saturated with CO2. You'll have passed out long before that, but your last conscious moments will probably be in agony.

  2. Editors! Huh! What are they good for? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    To be clear here, because TFS is a mess, there are two separate papers by two separate research teams. The paper described in the first line of the summary is this one, looking at a mix of supplements and how they affected bioluminescent reporting in bacteria. The paper which is linked in the first sentence ( this one ) is the one which looked at Neotame exposed mice, referred to in the last paragraph of TFS.

    1. Re:Editors! Huh! What are they good for? by ath1901 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Thanks for the links! Both the summary and the cnbc article link the wrong one.

      As for the CNBC article, they say "They observed that when exposed to only 1 milligram per milliliter of the artificial sweeteners, the bacteria found in the digestive system became toxic" but is that really what the study shows?

      The bioluminescent bacteria, which luminesce when they detect toxicants, act as a sensing model representative of the complex microbial system. Both induced luminescent signals and bacterial growth were measured. Toxic effects were found when the bacteria were exposed to certain concentrations of the artificial sweeteners. In the bioluminescence activity assay, two toxicity response patterns were observed, namely, the induction and inhibition of the bioluminescent signal. An inhibition response pattern may be observed in the response of sucralose in all the tested strains: TV1061 (MLIC = 1 mg/mL), DPD2544 (MLIC = 50 mg/mL) and DPD2794 (MLIC = 100 mg/mL). It is also observed in neotame in the DPD2544 (MLIC = 2 mg/mL) strain. On the other hand, the induction response pattern may be observed in its response in saccharin in TV1061 (MLIndC = 5 mg/mL) and DPD2794 (MLIndC = 5 mg/mL) strains, aspartame in DPD2794 (MLIndC = 4 mg/mL) strain, and ace-k in DPD2794 (MLIndC = 10 mg/mL) strain

      I am not a chemist/biologist and can not decipher that but

      a) Bacteria in the gut did not become toxic. It was a genetically engineered bioluminescent strain of e-coli that signals when it detects toxicants.
      b) There are many reported numbers ranging from 1 mg/mL to 100 mg/mL as well as different responses to different sweeteners.

      So if I just assume the limit for toxicity is 1 mg/mL like they say, a can of diet coke contains 125 mg of Aspartame and is 8 oz = 240 mL which is about 0.5 mg/mL and thus not-toxic. Also, if the other fluids in the body dilute the coke it should be even more safe since it is the concentration that matters. Is that a reasonable conclusion?

    2. Re:Editors! Huh! What are they good for? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2

      Is it concentration? Or net dosage? Many diet soda drinkers can consume a 2-liter bottle in the course of a day quite esily.

    3. Re:Editors! Huh! What are they good for? by religionofpeas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The gut has many different bacteria. This study only tested e-coli.

      Many different foods and spices could influence gut bacteria. This study didn't do any controls.

      Many sweeteners are already broken down/absorbed in the small intestine, whereas e-coli only lives in the colon. This study didn't compensate for that.

      Conclusion: lazy and deceptive study. What is alarming is that fairly obscure/crap (not published in major journal) studies like this show up all over the place. I've seen it pop up several times in tweets, reddit, and now on slashdot. Makes you wonder why so many news outlets feel compelled to pick up such a poorly done study.

  3. Re:The reporters did not even read the article by Sique · · Score: 2

    They were actually more diligent than you, as the second link goes to a CNN article, which quotes from a press release that links to a different article, and this article indeed was reporting about six artificial sweeteners: "In this study, the relative toxicity of six FDA-approved artificial sweeteners (aspartame, sucralose, saccharine, neotame, advantame and acesulfame potassium-k (ace-k)) and that of ten sport supplements containing these artificial sweeteners, were tested using genetically modified bioluminescent bacteria from E. coli." So before complaining, always wonder if it is your fault.

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  4. Metabolic effects. by GeLeTo · · Score: 2

    The summary is a mess. Still, there are quite many studies that indicate that non-nutritive sweeteners are associated with increased risk to develop obesity, metabolic syndrome, type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular disease: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p... And their effects on gut bacteria is the main suspect for this.

    1. Re:Metabolic effects. by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2

      Since diabetics, obese people, and those with related coronary disease often try to reduce weight, the association would seem to be cause and effect of those disorders causing the use of non-nutritive sweeteners. High insulin levels at the onset of Type 2 diabetes are also associated with causing increased hunger and weight gain, _before_ the weight increase of many victims of Type 2 diabetes.

      I'm not discounting all effects described in the study you mention, merely trying to point out that "association" does not mean cause and effect, As an example, I think we've all seen people with poor diets eat rich desserts and "make up for it" by drinking diet soda instead of regular soda, or order a fast food "large" meal with a diet soda. The cause and effect of obesity or type 2 diabetes and non-nutritive additives may be reversed.

  5. Re:Saccharin is made from coal by Sique · · Score: 4, Insightful
    And the problem being...?

    If you look at the materials something is created from, you could also say that organic food is made from dirt, mud and manure.

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  6. Re:The reporters did not even read the article by txoof · · Score: 2

    The second article is indeed better, but it is an in-vitro study. While the in-vitro results are interesting and definitely an indicator as to how these substances might act in-vivo, it is not the whole story.

    The slashdot headline and summary is a little misleading and alarmist, but the takeaway, that artificial sweeteners might not be good for our gut biome, is probably worth further investigation.

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  7. Re:"only one milligram per milliliter of sweetener by wierd_w · · Score: 2, Informative

    AC, this is not difficult.

    The substances being tested are crystalline solids at room temperature. They are dissolved in a solvent.

    In this case, at a concentration of 1mg : 1mL, as an aqueous solution.

    Granted, that is pretty damn concentrated. But still.

  8. Re:"only one milligram per milliliter of sweetener by hrafn42 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Granted, that is pretty damn concentrated.

    Particularly for sucralose, which is 600x as sweet as sugar. 1mg/ml would be sickly sweet. I generally use 0.1mg/ml in making my own sugar-free cordials (I'm diabetic).

  9. Re:That's just gut-wrenching by religionofpeas · · Score: 5, Informative

    They didn't become dead. The specially engineered e-coli strains become luminescent. Whatever that means for your gut health is anyone's guess.

  10. Original article by Tough+Love · · Score: 2

    Link to the original paper. Not paywalled, sweet. (see what I did there?)

    The summaries, mindlessly cut and pasted several levels deep including in the /. summary, really suck. According to the summaries, the bacteria "became toxic". No they didn't, please get a clue.

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  11. Re:That's just gut-wrenching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Okay, just to make this clear because it's useful knowledge. Bacteria may produce toxic waste, and these toxins can be the reason why you may get inflammations, may bleed internally, may have to vomit and/or get diarrhoea when your stomach gets infested by the wrong bacteria. Some of them produce so strong toxins that they perforate your intestines, leading to life threatening conditions (e.g. typhus does that). Dying and dead bacteria also produce toxins for a while. Part of the problem is the reaction of the immune system, part are the toxins emitted by bacteria. Chronic diseases of the stomach and intestinal system can also be caused by an improper balance of bacteria. Anything that changes the balance of bacteria in the stomach - which strains are present in which quantity - can be potentially dangerous or beneficial, depending on which strains are boosted or hampered.

    Just wanted to make this clear because your comment was upvoted (only God knows why) and is pretty pointless.

  12. Re:Saccharin is made from coal by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Interesting

    a) very few savanna living prehistoric people, as we evolved to be, encountered actual coal;
    b) even your coal eating county dweller tends to encounter either raw coal or the combustion products of coal - specially made chemicals from coal a bit less so

    Widespread encounters with coal really didn't happen until the start of the industrial era - and yes that does mean we are starting to evolve, but the way that happens is by some people dying which isn't always great.

    If only humans could change and adapt to living conditions/diets outside of the savanna.

    eg. Pale skin, lactose tolerance ... to name a couple of the most glaringly obvious examples.

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  13. Re:"only one milligram per milliliter of sweetener by Rei · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Neotame is 7000-13000 times as sweet as sugar.

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  14. Read the paper by Karmashock · · Score: 2, Informative

    ... if you read the paper... they are administering 2.5 times the FDA recommended dose of Sweat and Low... the mice showed no signs of ill health or altered behavior... and the "toxic" is a little bit of a stretch... there were changes in gut bacteria populations but that happens whenever you change a diet to anything else.

    Did someone else get a different read on this thing? I went through the "method" section which is where I always start whenever I read a paper. Straight to the method... aka what did you actually do?

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  15. Re:That's just gut-wrenching by dfghjk · · Score: 5, Informative

    Except, Jane, you're "dead" wrong. "became dead" appears nowhere in the article, neither does "dead" appear nor is there any claim that "toxic" means death. Furthermore, the article states "bacteria growth rates were also affected" which is a bit hard to understand if the bacteria were "dead". "Toxic" refers to a positive response with one or more toxicity indicators, that is all. Try to get it straight next time.

    There were egregious errors, though. First, it wasn't "bacteria found in the digestive system" that "became toxic", it was genetically modified bacteria that showed a toxic response. Second, only one sweetener caused this response at 1 mg/ml. None of the others did.

    Furthermore, "only" 1 mg/ml is a lot. These sweeteners are much stronger than sugar and these concentrations would not exist in actual applications. Lower concentrations did not demonstrate a toxic response in the study.

    Isn't it curious that so many artificial sweeteners all cause this "calamity" as shown in a single study? I wonder what special interest group would have interest in an outcome like this, particularly considering the gross misrepresentation of the results.

    You know what known to be toxic? Sugar. Not toxic merely to gut bacteria, toxic to you.

  16. Re:"only one milligram per milliliter of sweetener by dfghjk · · Score: 2

    Absurdity is not defined by whether something is more or less absurd than something else that is absurd.

    1 mg/ml is vastly higher than would actually be used. Furthermore, it was the minimum threshold for a positive response for only one of the tested sweeteners. All other required higher concentrations still, including neotame which is at least 10x stronger than Sucralose (the one with a response at 1mg/ml). With neotame, the concentrations required would be 100 - 1000 times stronger than what would be typically used. Sounds pretty absurd.

  17. All part of the plan... by atrex · · Score: 2

    Step 1) Get the country hooked on sugar - Check and Profit
    Step 2) Make a fortune of diabetes treatments - Check and Profit
    Step 3) Develop and market tons of different artificial "no/low calorie" sweeteners and market to people now suffering from obesity - Check and Profit
    Step 4) ???
    Step 5) Profit Profit Profit!

  18. Re:That's just gut-wrenching by drkoemans · · Score: 2

    You know what known to be toxic? Sugar. Not toxic merely to gut bacteria, toxic to you.

    Just for fun I looked up the LD50 for sugar. A 180 lbs person would need to consume 5.2 lbs of sugar to get to a 50% chance of dying from it. Toxic yes, but at impossibly high amounts. I get what your saying, sugar isn't good for you, but its toxicity level is pretty damn low.