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National Theater In London Offers Glasses With Live Subtitles (nytimes.com)

The National Theater in London has introduced "smart caption glasses" that display dialogue on the lenses as actors speak (Warning: source may be paywalled; alternative source). The glasses should drastically improve the experience for audience members who have hearing difficulties. According to The New York Times, "The glasses can be used without charge for the play 'War Horse' and for the musical 'Hadestown,' and they will be available for all of the theater's 2019 season." From the report: Jonathan Suffolk, the theater's technical director, said that the glasses had taken two years to develop. "We could have offered the scripts on a phone, but we wanted a technology that was much more discreet and immersive and wouldn't disturb anyone," he said. The biggest challenge was creating software that allowed the words to be displayed in real time so that people wearing the glasses reached important moments -- such as jokes -- along with everyone else, Mr. Suffolk added. It is easy to load a script into a subtitling system and hit "ego" at the start of the play, he said, but problems would then arise if actors spoke quicker or slower than expected.

The software used by the theater follows live speech and recognizes certain stage directions, like lighting changes, to ensure the subtitles appear in the right place. The words are then transmitted to the glasses over Wi-Fi. According to Andrew Lambourne, a professor at Leeds Beckett University who worked on the project, a major obstacle that the software had to overcome was recognizing speech even when actors were talking over each other or being bombarded by sound effects. Mr. Suffolk said it was difficult to know how many people would use the equipment. The theater has bought 50 pairs, at a cost of around $1,050 per pair. The National Theater will make the glasses available to some other British venues next year, including during a touring production of "Macbeth." The Barbican Theater in London said in a statement that it was in talks about using them.

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  1. Not a subtitle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being displayed on a screen separate from the performance (glasses in this case) makes it a surtitle or supertitle.

    Source: I do the surtitles for local opera performances.

    1. Re:Not a subtitle by cre1mer · · Score: 0
      Caption is the word you're looking for.

      Movies, Television. the title of a scene, the text of a speech, etc., superimposed on the film and projected onto the screen.

      https://www.dictionary.com/browse/caption

    2. Re:Not a subtitle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Caption is also incorrect, and was just a made-up word when surtitle already existed and has the exact same definition, just trademarked by some Canadian company.

    3. Re:Not a subtitle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surtitle predates caption by a long, long time, almost a millennium, roughly 4th century AD.

      Canadians happened to trademark it almost two millennia later doesn't matter.

    4. Re:Not a subtitle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    5. Re:Not a subtitle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "diet" is the word you should be looking for!

  2. Do they offer dentistry too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems like that would be more useful over there.

  3. you insensitive clods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I already wear glasses

  4. Duh by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

    It is easy to load a script into a subtitling system and hit "ego" at the start of the play, he said, but problems would then arise if actors spoke quicker or slower than expected.

    The software used by the theater follows live speech and recognizes certain stage directions, like lighting changes

    Meanwhile, the software used by /. follows text on a webpage, translating "go" into "ego".

    Seriously, though, it shouldn't be news to anyone that live theatre doesn't work like a pre-recorded movie. Theatre techs need to follow cues on the stage for controlling light and sound, and this involves timing at fractions of a second. I wonder if their speech recognition system could be used to automate those too; I guess it's not perfect if they need the lighting cues as well.

    Also, subtitles in theatres aren't exactly a new thing, though I mostly recall seeing them in operas. There it makes more sense, given they are less commonly translated into local languages, and timing precision is less important.

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    1. Re:Duh by Calydor · · Score: 1

      Also, subtitles in theatres aren't exactly a new thing, though I mostly recall seeing them in operas. There it makes more sense, given they are less commonly translated into local languages, and timing precision is less important.

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    2. Re:Duh by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Is Fat Lady singing?

      That's not politically correct. The correct term is "weight-challenged"*.

      * I actually wrote that as a joke, but searching for "weight-challenged" I see it's actually a thing now.

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    3. Re:Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  5. This is silly. by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It would be a lot simpler to install a prompting screen at the back of the hall, and give an aimable mirror that can be plugged into the back of the seat ahead and that the patron could simply aim at the prompting screen.

    A simple, low tech solution that will always work because it is so simple.

    1. Re:This is silly. by religionofpeas · · Score: 1

      But how is your solution going to provide us with huge profits ?

    2. Re:This is silly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A simple, low tech solution that will always work because it is so simple.

      Except when it doesn't. How do you know that the back wall is suitable for projection? How do you know these mirrors don't obscure the view of the people arround it? Doesn't this have the same problem as the smartphone app solution that was rejected?

    3. Re:This is silly. by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      Instead of a third party developing these and selling them to individuals, the National Theatre apparently ate the cost of development. And is not charging a fee for them.

      Profit was not the motive. Improvement was. They can patent the idea and/or sell the system to other theatres if it catches on but that doesn't seem to be the goal.

      Theatre is not known as being a hot spot for tech entrepreneurs, nor profit generation.

    4. Re:This is silly. by religionofpeas · · Score: 1

      Theatre is not known as being a hot spot for tech entrepreneurs, nor profit generation.

      Obviously not, but I wasn't talking about the theater, but about company providing the solution. For them, a complicated system with electronic glasses is much better than simple mirrors.

    5. Re:This is silly. by Calydor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Your solution is quickly made far more difficult by different focal points and angles throughout the theater. Also obstruction by the guy behind you stretching his arms because he's been sitting still for too long.

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    6. Re:This is silly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > It would be a lot simpler to install a prompting screen at the back of the hall, and give an aimable mirror that can be plugged into the back of the seat ahead and that the patron could simply aim at the prompting screen.

      Spoken as someone that is able-bodied.

      Hint: This wouldn't work. Source: Because I'm actually deaf. Others have already commented on how this affects others around you and possibly breaks. For such a "simple" solution, it's not as simple as you make it sound.

    7. Re:This is silly. by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      You're insisting that the theatre went with this design after taking a look at only this option? Or that there were better options and it chose the expensive one, when it has to eat the costs?

      You're cynical, but not smart enough to use it properly. This is nonsense.

      Simple mirrors are the same problem as projecting text above the screen, except you have breakable objects st every seat. Finger smudges that have to be cleaned after every performance. This solution allows the viewer to look directly at any part of the stage, and have the text stay in the same predictable location. Like tv subtitles. Consider displaying t.v. subtitles on the wall above the display.

      Think before you cynic.

    8. Re:This is silly. by CODiNE · · Score: 1

      They already have these. I believe the IMAX in Los Angeles had them some years back, they use a glass pane. It was the worst system I've used. The problem is the angle has to be just perfect to see the text, and any slight movement of your head makes you lose it. It really made my neck sore trying to keep my head in the same spot. That's a lot easier than trying to reposition it during the movie.

      Other more common systems are a cup holder mount with a long bendable neck that holds a 3 or 4 line old school LCD display and a pair of glasses with wires that go down to the battery pack. The nice thing about those is you can walk to the restroom with them on and catch all the dialog. The disadvantage is you look like a weenie.

      Both of those common systems suffer from connection issues and frequent missing lines. Hopefully the WiFi system in the new one makes them more rock solid.

      It's easy to solve problems from your armchair, but nothing beats actual end user testing.

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    9. Re:This is silly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The mirrors might obstruct the view of people behind, or simply be distracting (in the same way as a lit mobile phone screen is distracting in a theatre).

      Plus that solution means the user has to keep their head pretty much still throughout the performance, or they'll lose the angle they set up.

      Plus the (mirror-imaged) captioning may be distracting to performers. I know, usually they wouldn't be able to see it because of the stage lighting, but there would be occasions when they could.

      It may be simple-and-low-tech, but it also has several downsides.

    10. Re:This is silly. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Anyone with the smallest amount of geometric intuition can see that's utter rubbish.

      If the seats are raked steeply enough that row N can see the stage over row N-1's heads (which is usually the case, because architects aren't utter idiots) then it stands to reason that the view the opposite way must be blocked.

      Yeah, you could mount the mirrors on tall stalks or something like on a mod's scooter. Can't see any problems with that. Can't see the stage either.

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    11. Re:This is silly. by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      It would be a lot simpler to install a prompting screen at the back of the hall, and give an aimable mirror that can be plugged into the back of the seat ahead and that the patron could simply aim at the prompting screen.

      A simple, low tech solution that will always work because it is so simple.

      You may think you're joking, but actually, that's the system used by movie theatres to offer captioning for the hard of hearing - the back wall of a theatre is basically a large scrolling LED display with the captions and you wear special glasses that let you see it. It's not as bright as the projectors so you don't really see the light it projects, but it's large and big and generally near the projection window.

    12. Re:This is silly. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      It would be a lot simpler to install a prompting screen at the back of the hall

      As the article said, the hardware was the simple part. I however do not welcome your neck straining option.

    13. Re:This is silly. by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      Come on... Just a tad bit jaded, right?

    14. Re:This is silly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You'd be focused a lot on the seat ahead and the person in front instead of the stage.

  6. I appreciate the idea but ... by AlanObject · · Score: 1

    Down this track there will come some point where you just might as well issued everyone a VR helmet to correct or improve everything about a live performance.

    Then they don't even need to show up at the theater.

    That's progress I guess.

    1. Re:I appreciate the idea but ... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      And if you're going to use VR anyway, you might as well drop the actors and just use 3D models instead.

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  7. Such a bummer... by MindPrison · · Score: 1

    ...when someone just walks out with them, whoops - seems like I forgot to return those. "Roots Google Glasses".

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    1. Re:Such a bummer... by Calydor · · Score: 1

      RFID tag and scanner at the door similar to the anti-theft scanners at the supermarket and clothes stores.

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    2. Re:Such a bummer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They look like epson's movario glasses. Which begs the question, why they paid $1050 per glasses when they retail for much less.

  8. Re:Not subtitles by theNetImp · · Score: 2

    Unless you go to the Disney Live performances here in Japan where they rent out these same glasses to foreigners so they can see subtitles in their language. All the performances here are Japanese as you would expect, so if you want to read along in english you can.

  9. This is GREAT. Here's why..l. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is simply amazing. Imagine seeing the Rolling Stones and actually understanding what they're saying for a change? I bet you can't get no sadiscfarction from dat.

  10. Great for opera by williamyf · · Score: 1

    Especialy in international teaters.

    In Vienna, they have a small screen on the back of each seat, and you chose the language of the subtitles (spanish in my case).

    But reading the subtitles in the back in the seat in front of you means less time looking at the stage.

    In other places, if they have just one set of subtitles, is in a screen at the very top of the stage, again, reading subtitless, less time looking at the actros and decors.

    With this, one can have the cake and eat it too...

    Great. Hope it gets to my area soon enough!

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  11. Carbon-based ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    ... subtitles.

    GMO shit. No thanks and stuff.

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  12. Leeds Beckett (pronounced bouquet) University by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    For the benefit of our colonial readers: with a few exceptions, any UK university named city + ( famous person, region, or geographical feature) University is a second-rate former poly. A community college, more or less.

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    1. Re:Leeds Beckett (pronounced bouquet) University by mvdwege · · Score: 1

      And yet they delivered. So sod off with your snobism.

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    2. Re:Leeds Beckett (pronounced bouquet) University by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Snobbism. The second b is necessary to preserve the short o sound.

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    3. Re:Leeds Beckett (pronounced bouquet) University by mvdwege · · Score: 1

      Oooh, the typo police is in.

      Since that is apparently the whole of your counterargument, thank you for conceding the point.

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  13. Need this with instant translation by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    I want to hear what people are saying and how they are saying it, but I want translated subtitles for what they're saying. At minimum it should be hilarious.

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  14. Where is this? by I_Wrote_This · · Score: 1

    There are no Theaters In London - only Theatres.

  15. Speech Recognition - Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure I understand why speech recognition is a major problem - if the actors have microphones on (as I thought most do to feed the hearing aid T-Loop at the very least), then providing clean speech only feeds to the subtitling system from these mics should be a piece of piss.....

  16. tracking live theatre is complex by John_Sauter · · Score: 1

    I do sound effects and sound reinforcement for local community theatre groups. Tracking the performance so I can make noises at the appropriate times isn't just a matter of dealing with speaking tempo. There is also the possiblity that the actors will get confused, and skip a page or two of dialogue. That is when the crew intercom becomes very helpful: "they are on page 52" gets the lighting guys back on track.

    I think operating this subtitler will require a dedicated operator who will follow the script as it is being performed, line by line, sending each line of text as it is spoken. It is no easier to automate than lights, sound, and curtain.