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Fully Self-Driving Cars May Hit US Roads in Pilot Program: NHTSA (reuters.com)

Fully self-driving cars may be on the fast lane to U.S. roads under a pilot program the Trump administration said on Tuesday it was considering, which would allow real-world road testing for a limited number of the vehicles. Reuters: Self-driving cars used in the program would potentially need to have technology disabling the vehicle if a sensor fails or barring vehicles from traveling above safe speeds, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said in a document made public Tuesday. NHTSA said it was considering whether it would have to be notified of any accident within 24 hours and was seeking public input on what other data should be disclosed including near misses. The U.S. House of Representatives passed legislation in 2017 to speed the adoption of self-driving cars, but the Senate has not approved it. Several safety groups oppose the bill, which is backed by carmakers. It has only a slender chance of being approved in 2018, congressional aides said.

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  1. Dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    If they already know the cars are going to hit the roads, why are they launching them anyway?

    1. Re:Dumb by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because without a trebuchet, how else would you make them hit the roads?

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  2. Can we suggest test markets? by damn_registrars · · Score: 2

    I've lived and visited some places where many of the locals really shouldn't be licensed to drive, ever (Upstate New York in particular). It would be a great place to test self-driving cars as it couldn't possibly make their situation worse.

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    1. Re:Can we suggest test markets? by commodore64_love · · Score: 2

      I have to disagree. I spent time in Upstate New York, and the drivers seemed courteous & respectful...... a dramatic contrast from Southern California where even the cops say "I give up" as people speed-by at 85.

      - BTW visitors from Baja California, and residents of Socal

      - The left lane is not the slow lane. If you're driving 55, that is just fine, but please more to the far right. (Yes that's why everyone is blowing their horn at you.)

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  3. All sensor data should be made public by AlanBDee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    After any accident all sensor data should be made public so that it can then be used to further train AI systems. If it's not a law then companies will keep it to themselves so that they can only improve their AI and not their competitors. The net result is that different companies' AI's will have to "learn the same lesson" multiple times instead of once.

  4. speeds by dkman · · Score: 2

    Self-driving cars used in the program would potentially need to have technology disabling the vehicle if a sensor fails or barring vehicles from traveling above safe speeds

    Why is this necessary? Half the point of self driving cars is that they can go slower because I don't need to focus. Go 40 mph (64 kph) for all I care. I can be doing something else. I don't need to "hurry" at 70, just get me there.

    Though I suppose I do see why it legally "needs to be said". During the introductory phase it would be best to "flow with traffic", but once the majority are self driving they could lower the speed limits so any accidents that do happen are less dangerous.

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  5. Driverless Cars Cost Jobs, Decrease Safety by BrendaEM · · Score: 2

    Ask any elevator operator.

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  6. What about Liability? by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 3

    What about Liability?

  7. Re:It's time for a trial & make roads safer by commodore64_love · · Score: 2

    > It's all her fault.

    She was jaywalking in the middle of a highway, so yes, it was her fault. Plus she stepped in front of the car when it was only feet away. Even with instant braking, that car would not have stopped in time to miss the impact. SHE caused her own damn death.

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  8. Re:Specious argument by commodore64_love · · Score: 2

    Here's the automated rate: U.S. elevators make 18 billion passenger trips per year. Those trips result in about 27 deaths annually,

    - I can easily imagine the pre-automated elevators had accidents due to operator stupidity or carelessness.... like closing the door on a passenger & killing him. Or moving the elevator up a floor as someone is trying to exit, and then they plunge to their death.

    Automated elevators don't do stupid stuff.

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  9. Re:What about it? Owner vs manufacturer? by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

    Why would it be your fault? Did you tell your automated car to hit the pedestrian? Did you tell your automated car to do anything that would cause you believe the trip would not be safe? If the answer is no., then it's not your fault.

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