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New App Lets You 'Sue Anyone By Pressing a Button' (vice.com)

Jason Koebler writes: Do Not Pay, a free service that launched in the iOS App store today, uses artificial intelligence to help people win up to $25,000 in small claims court. It's the latest project from 21-year-old Stanford senior Joshua Browder, whose service previously allowed people to fight parking tickets or sue Equifax; now, the app has streamlined the process. It's the "first ever service to sue anyone (in all 3,000 counties in 50 states) by pressing a button."

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  1. Time to incorporate by rickb928 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Own nothing.

    Control everything.

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  2. With great power... by QuadEddie · · Score: 2

    So, do you just start the app, point it at someone and push?

    1. Re:With great power... by 110010001000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually you need to fill in the details, then it fills out and downloads a form for you, then you need to print it out, then you need to submit it to the courthouse, then you need to appear in court. But the downloading step requires you to push a button. The AI does the rest. Except for the filling in the details, downloading, printing out the form, submitting to the courthouse and appearing in the courthouse. The AI does pre fill out the form for you though. Pretty amazing stuff.

    2. Re:With great power... by DarkOx · · Score: 4, Informative

      So its basically TruboTax for small claims cases. 1993 called and they'd like their definition of amazing back.

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    3. Re:With great power... by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

      Completely different. It uses IBM Watson to fill out the form for you. And that is AI, as well all know. TurboTax just uses regular old boring programming to fill out forms.

    4. Re:With great power... by magarity · · Score: 2

      then you need to print it out, then you need to submit it to the courthouse, then you need to appear in court.

      Unfortunately for everyone on the end of a frivolous suit made even easier by this, they have to appear in court too.

  3. Re:I'm sure this won't be abused by Gilgaron · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I suppose the pay version of the app will let you respond to dismiss the suit with prejudice. Or multiple tiers of payment level that get you access to better written boilerplate so you can beat the app users on the lower tiers... I guess that's basically how the legal system works anyhow.

  4. Bummer - won't work by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

    I just tried to download it (I am thinking of suing people). Unfortunately my iPhone is a 4s and it needs iOS 11.0. How can I sue anyone if I can't even afford to upgrade my 4s? Truly the system is stacked against people like me.

    1. Re:Bummer - won't work by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Unfortunately my iPhone is a 4s and it needs iOS 11.0. How can I sue anyone if I can't even afford to upgrade my 4s? Truly the system is stacked against people like me"

      1. Buy an iPhone XS.
      2. Sue Apple
      3. Return Xs
      4. Profit

    2. Re:Bummer - won't work by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

      Good thinking. I should get all my advice from Slashdot from now on.

    3. Re:Bummer - won't work by magarity · · Score: 3, Funny

      Good thinking. I should get all my advice from Slashdot from now on.

      Ye gods, no, please, not all your advice. Only get all your LEGAL advice from Slashdot.

    4. Re:Bummer - won't work by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2

      You should sue the maker of the app to support your phone.

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    5. Re:Bummer - won't work by apoc.famine · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure how to do that. It would be really helpful if someone made an app to do it for me.

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    6. Re:Bummer - won't work by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ye gods, no, please, not all your advice. Only get all your LEGAL advice from Slashdot.

      Also advice on women. Slashdot’s got a lot of users knowledgeable regarding women.

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  5. it's a litte more than just push a button by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    you have to feed in all sorts of details and mail the documents to the appropriate place and you may end up being called to court... but with the push of a button it seems anyone can start the process

  6. Was this really needed? by anegg · · Score: 2

    Does the United States really need a service that makes suing people easier? Automation that removes "natural" limits of process rates (like the time/effort to file a suit) often cause disruption in other parts of the system that haven't evolved to handle the load that can be presented once the "natural" limit is removed. Or perhaps this was the intent?

    1. Re:Was this really needed? by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

      It isn't really for suing. It is for challenging tickets, etc in small claims court by pre-filling out forms for you. The app developer is good at marketing though.

  7. Re:I'm sure this won't be abused by Drethon · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Sovereign Citizen movement is going to love this.

    Can I use the app to sue the app?

  8. This is the App for me. by commodore64_love · · Score: 3

    I'm so tired of businesses thinking they can screw-over customers & get away with it. I'd also like to sue the telemarketer that keeps calling my cellphone every day, even though I told them "Put me on you Do Not Call list". Per US Law if they continue calling, then they can be fined in small claims.

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    1. Re:This is the App for me. by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 2

      The govt should split that with you, 50-50.

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  9. The Ts & Cs you signed by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    when you bought virtually anything of substance from a merchant will have an arbitration clause. If you're in the US our Congress just passed a law that makes arbitration legally binding (it used to be you couldn't sign away due process rights). Our Supreme Court upheld the law thanks to a conservative majority.

    Sorry my friend, but this app is useless as a tool against businesses.... The moral of the story is elections have consequences.

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    1. Re:The Ts & Cs you signed by commodore64_love · · Score: 2

      Arbitration clauses don't stop you from rejecting the Arbitrator's solution & going to court.

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  10. Re:I'm sure this won't be abused by sheramil · · Score: 2

    Yes, but then the app can sue you, or at least sue your app, leading your app to sue their app in an appy loop of appy app apps.

    Apps!

    Perhaps the whole legal system will devolve into some kind of app-based card trading game, or if someone sues you, you can send Charmander in to court to fight for you.

  11. Re:How does it serve the complaint? by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 2

    Uber's next business plan!

  12. Filing is no big deal, collecting is the problem by Pharmakeus+Ubik · · Score: 2

    I filed against my former landlord for keeping my deposit without a walk through, violating both the lease and local rental law. I was awarded the value of the deposit, plus 200% by the judge. Since this scofflaw has decided to ignore the court's judgement, I have to serve him again before I can get any discovery of his bank accounts or place a lien on his property. He's had a fence built so process servers can't get to his front door without trespassing. Next step, the servers want to charge me $125/hour to stake out his place. He's now moved out and appears to be living with relatives, so I can't track him down. The burden on the victor can be too high for justice to actually be served.

  13. Re:Will there be a counter-sue button by sjames · · Score: 2

    Second definition:

    vexatious litigation or incitement to it.

  14. Re:Legal issue by Zmobie · · Score: 2

    I think it would all be considered pro se representation since it isn't actually giving legal advice necessarily just providing the forms and scripts for one to do it themselves. Technically even if they did have an issue with that, if an attorney provided that initial information (which I would assume they did though TFA didn't mention it specifically) it would be perfectly fine I believe. As always, I am not an attorney, merely a surfer of the interwebs that half-assedly can parse legal jargon. I may be wrong, but I would think this is all fine as long as he doesn't try to add anything that would be disallowed from pro se representation such as class action lawsuits or arguing before the Supreme Court (not thinking that one is likely feasible anyway...).

  15. Re:I'm sure this won't be abused by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 2

    I have a neighbour called Susan, who's a native American sous chef. Can I use the app to sue Sue? As she's a Sioux, would I then sue Sue the Sioux? Its over her cooking, so I'd be sueing Sue the Sioux over being a sous.