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US Lawmakers Urge Canada To Snub China's Huawei in Telecoms (reuters.com)

Two leading U.S. lawmakers, both sharp critics of China, urged Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Friday to consider dropping China's Huawei Technologies from helping to build next-generation 5G telecommunications networks. From a report: Senators Mark Warner, a Virginia Democrat, and Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican, said they had "grave concern" about the prospects of Huawei equipment in Canada's 5G networks on the grounds that it would pose dangers for U.S. networks. "While Canada has strong telecommunications security safeguards in place, we have serious concerns that such safeguards are inadequate given what the United States and other allies know about Huawei," the lawmakers wrote in the letter to Trudeau. Warner and Rubio are on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

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  1. "Nobody tells us what to do!" [Buys China's stuff.]

    [Insert resignated Pepe meme.]

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    1. Re:Next by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Shaddap nazi Trump faggots you retards of no value or consequence are being replaced!" [The entire world]

    2. Re:Next by green1 · · Score: 4, Informative

      except at the usual reaction from the Canadian government is to do exactly anything that the US says. When they say jump, we ask how high?

      which is sad, because this is a very transparent ploy to get Canada to buy more US equipment. It's well known that the US equipment manufacturers have put back doors into their equipment in the past, and yet the Chinese ones have never been caught doing so. So really which one should we trust?

    3. Re: Next by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Canada and US are 5-Eyes bros.

    4. Re: Next by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The US that wasn't in a trade war with us that didn't call us a national security threat as a matter of policy, we'd probably pay attention.

      But as a Republican president once said: "you're either with us or against us", and apparently you've drawn the battle lines.

      Oh well. You've made your bed. Now sleep in it.

  2. Selling Nortel's IP back to Canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Huawei is built off of what was stolen from Nortel Networks years ago.

    If Canada allows them in, it would show they haven't learned anything since a crown jewel of Canadian IT was taken from them. They should have aggressively fought Huawei's attempts to sell internationally. It never happened. I always wondered why

    1. Re: Selling Nortel's IP back to Canada by Shikaku · · Score: 1

      Yeah it's called Android. An American made product, for every cell phone that isn't iPhone. You meant that right?

    2. Re:Selling Nortel's IP back to Canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nortel was raped and dismembered by American Vulture capitalists, why you blaming the Chinese?

    3. Re:Selling Nortel's IP back to Canada by kent_eh · · Score: 2

      If Canada allows them in

      All of The Telus cell network is already Huawei. Has been for several years.
      And Much of the Rogers western wireless networks well (though they are in the process of reverting to 100% Ericsson.)

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    4. Re:Selling Nortel's IP back to Canada by William+Baric · · Score: 1

      Nortel? A crown jewel of Canadian IT? Really? Will you tell us next that Canadian Tire is the epitome of quality and customer service?

    5. Re: Selling Nortel's IP back to Canada by William+Baric · · Score: 1

      I thought Android was based on Linux and several other open source softwares. Thanks for teaching me that it is instead an American made product.

  3. Why does it matter about the brand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    When everything now has boards with chips made in China, why even bother?

  4. I guess you could go with by bobstreo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Samsung, Ericsson and Nokia instead...

    So South Korea, Sweden and Finland instead of China... Unless they get their chips from China of course...

  5. Here's what it translates to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "We claim that Huawei telecom equipment is rigged, but even after a whole decade of accusations there is no proof. Nothing. You know since before that our own equipment is rigged, but we still want you to buy it so we can tap your communications."

  6. and in the other news by hackingbear · · Score: 1

    ... Iraq possesses WMDs pointing at our heads.

    Maybe it is time to review documents from the Snowden leak.

  7. Support your neighbours. by XB-70 · · Score: 2

    Now that USMCA is in place, it is absolutely wrong to buy inferior hacked Chinese equipment when the U.S. has products with superior back doors. Let's support 'MADE IN USA' so that the FBI, CIA etc. etc. can listen in instead of the Chinese.

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  8. Such warning might carry more weight... by hyades1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...if it wasn't coming from a treasonous bottom feeder who has consistently turned a blind eye while Russia raped Lady Liberty and put a puppet ruler in the White House. And a Democrat who has proved to be, at best, inept when it comes to managing the worst excesses of Rubio, John Cornyn a couple of other Republicans on that committee.

    As a Canadian, I want to be crystal clear: I am NOT saying China is trustworthy. Far from it. China is one of the most terrifying governments on the planet, with their efforts to meet and exceed George Orwell's worst totalitarian nightmare. I certainly haven't forgotten that the technological sell-out giving this appalling regime access to Nortel's patents is Canada's fault. It occurred under the Conservative Party government of Stephen Harper, Canada's most recent contribution to North America's apparently limitless capacity for breeding treasonous right wing pricks. Speaking of which...Marco Rubio is the last person who should be yapping at another country about security when he has sold out the United States of America without a second thought. And Warner should shut up because he's been such a little bitch while his own country is being sold out from under him.

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    1. Re:Such warning might carry more weight... by dk20 · · Score: 1

      As a fellow canadian i wouldnt mind hearing your first hand experience iwth the "most terrifying government on the planet".
      Clearly you have been there, experienced it first hand and have some interesting "totalitarian" stories to share.

      Signed.. a canadian who actuallly owns a house in there (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilin) and has been there many times.

    2. Re:Such warning might carry more weight... by Miles_O'Toole · · Score: 1

      So you're well aware that if you said what I said, you'd lose your house. If you were actually in it when you said what I said, you'd lose your freedom, too.

      I'm fortunate to know people who lived and grew up there, and got out.

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    3. Re:Such warning might carry more weight... by Stealthey · · Score: 3, Interesting

      As a fellow canadian i wouldnt mind hearing your first hand experience iwth the "most terrifying government on the planet".
      Clearly you have been there, experienced it first hand and have some interesting "totalitarian" stories to share.

      Signed.. a canadian who actuallly owns a house in there (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilin) and has been there many times.

      I generally don't comment much here but I just had to reply to this. I grew up in Punjab, India before migrating to Canada in early 90s. Anyhow, I still vividly remember going to Leh, Ladakh & Dharamshala during my summer vacations. While there one would notice the refugees which at the time looked like outnumbering the locals. All those refugees were either Chinese or Tibetans fleeing Chinese persecutions. It was indeed really a sorry sight, and at the time me and my friends did whatever we could at the moment to help them. We didn't have much cash, but we tried to help by giving whatever we had and also extra clothes that we had for our trip.
      I recall seeing 2-3 year old kids who were rescued by fleeing refugees and nobody knew who they belong to, because Chinese government had killed indiscriminately when annexing Tibet. With annexation of Tibet,Chinese government knew then, that they can do anything and rest of the world either doesn't care or too scared to get involved. Yes there was sanctions and noise...but nothing of effect.

      My second trip the next was literally a helping mission, when we asked for donations from nears and dears to take there. I still remember how much they appreciated getting old clothes, pots and pans. But to the see the suffering of those people was gut wrenching. Indian government was trying to do whatever it could by providing some(barely) medical services etc. But yeah, Chinese government (not people) if not the most terrifying certainly is up there in committing atrocious crimes against its own citizens and that of its neighbors.

      It may very well be that my experiences might have influenced my bias, but Sir, you cannot in good conscience say that Chinese government doesn't commit atrocities. They may very well do lot of good and humane things but that doesn't negate the facts.

      I shall end this with an obvious references to:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    4. Re:Such warning might carry more weight... by dk20 · · Score: 1

      Ah yes.. the classic "Tiananmen" reference. .My wife was there.. Were you or your family?

      Does china do bad things? Yes, absolutly and there is no denying that fact.

      Do we here in North America have a clean track record?

      I'd say things like this were not the best things to do to your own people : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      The dr's and people doing the experiments didnt seem to want to volunteer their own familys, so i guess they had a good idea it wasnt good right?

      Current China is probably similiar to 1950's north america.. polution, McCarthyism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... all that bad stuff.

    5. Re:Such warning might carry more weight... by djinn6 · · Score: 1

      For you, yes. The government isn't going to mess with a foreigner who has no political agenda. Try starting an anti-government protest though, you'll be deported faster than you can say "but article 35 of the Chinese Constitution promises the right to freedom of speech and assembly!"

      Though I agree the government is probably the least of people's worries. If you work in a tier 1 city, education, healthcare, housing, transportation are all insanely expensive for anyone with a Chinese income and you actually need those to live.

    6. Re:Such warning might carry more weight... by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      Thank you for that. It's pretty clear we've uncovered a Chinese troll account. We're far from the only ones here who actually know Chinese people who have fled that odious regime, often carrying no more than the clothes on their back.

      Few people find themselves at a place and time where they can make a real difference to the lives of others. Fewer still act. I honour you for your service.

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    7. Re:Such warning might carry more weight... by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      Don't bother with this creep. Look at his other comments on this thread. It couldn't be more obvious he's a Chinese government troll.

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    8. Re:Such warning might carry more weight... by dk20 · · Score: 1

      thats right.. i am at my house in Canada at the moment.. but you spotted the "chinese troll" account.. You and your friends going to do some "area 51" research later tongiht too?

      because someone has a different opinion then you doesnt make them a "troll"..

      Same post i made earlier.. Do share some of your own FIRST HAND experience from your time in China.. What.. Never been there.. Shocked.. Shocked i tell you...

      My long term girlfriend is Chinses.. and yes, she fled china as well (for many reasons)... but it isnt nearly as bad as many make it out to be. her family is still there, she goes back several times a year to see them.

      Most chinese are more interestsed in making money then taking about their government.. unlike here, where we seem to enjoy taking about their government a lot.. mostly from people who have never been there..

  9. Justin Trudope will be too busy... by dstyle5 · · Score: 1, Troll

    hitting his bong every day now that his boyhood dream of pot being legalized dream has come true. Maybe he will embarrass us on the world stage again soon. Dare to dream.

    Perhaps we'll see him in Doritos and Mountain Dew or McDonald's commercials soon.

    1. Re:Justin Trudope will be too busy... by Miles_O'Toole · · Score: 1

      Harper was our national embarrassment, and all the fascist cocksuckers who supported him.

      Please try to keep up.

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  10. An honest politician? by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure if Justin is an honest politician.

    One that stays bought.

  11. US vs China by sit1963nz · · Score: 2

    BOTH contain spyware. The US has a long history of doing the things they accuse china of, and they do it to their so called allies just as quick. So now you look at who is being the bigger asshole.....and currently that is the USA.

    1. Re:US vs China by currently_awake · · Score: 1

      Given that China copies foreign products you should assume that the American installed back doors are still there.

  12. Canada isn't subject to the US Senators' opinions by gavron · · Score: 1

    It's cute that they can't get along on anything meaningful, like putting a second rapist on the Supreme Court, nor can they actually get the Senate itself to do or say anything together, but two senators (1% of the US Senate) can "urge Canada" to not use a vendor because "we said so."

    Canada has its own researchers, which use science to determine whether a vendor is worth doing business with, not voodoo. Canada has its own parliament, which other than the obvious advantage of having people who are still alive practicing politics, and not trying to return to 1973, allows a wide range of opinions to circulate.

    Frankly the US would be better off if we listened to Canadian opinions, and not those of evil old men hell bent on destroying our freedoms like Mitch Mcconnel, Lindsey Graham, and Chuck Grassley. These evil old men have one goal in mind -- remove women's rights. Everything else is to be mowed down in this quest to restore the past.

    Go, Canada!

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