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A Future Where Everything Becomes a Computer Is As Creepy As You Feared (nytimes.com)

schwit1 shares a report from The New York Times: More than 40 years ago, Bill Gates and Paul Allen founded Microsoft with a vision for putting a personal computer on every desk. [...] In recent years, the tech industry's largest powers set their sights on a new target for digital conquest. They promised wild conveniences and unimaginable benefits to our health and happiness. There's just one catch, which often goes unstated: If their novelties take off without any intervention or supervision from the government, we could be inviting a nightmarish set of security and privacy vulnerabilities into the world. And guess what. No one is really doing much to stop it. The industry's new goal? Not a computer on every desk nor a connection between every person, but something grander: a computer inside everything, connecting everyone.

Cars, door locks, contact lenses, clothes, toasters, refrigerators, industrial robots, fish tanks, sex toys, light bulbs, toothbrushes, motorcycle helmets -- these and other everyday objects are all on the menu for getting "smart." Hundreds of small start-ups are taking part in this trend -- known by the marketing catchphrase "the internet of things" -- but like everything else in tech, the movement is led by giants, among them Amazon, Apple and Samsung. [American cryptographer and computer security professional Bruce Schneier] argues that the economic and technical incentives of the internet-of-things industry do not align with security and privacy for society generally. Putting a computer in everything turns the whole world into a computer security threat. [...] Mr. Schneier says only government intervention can save us from such emerging calamities. "I can think of no industry in the past 100 years that has improved its safety and security without being compelled to do so by government."

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  1. Bruce is forgetting everything before the 1960s by raymorris · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Bruce Schneier] argues that the economic and technical incentives of the internet-of-things industry do not align with security and privacy for society generally."

    THAT part is an insight that might merit further thought. How can one arrange the system such that what is good for the company is good society? When you do that, it can work really well.

    As far as the "I can think of no industry" but, Bruce is generally a smart guy, so I'm surprised to hear him start the interview with a statement that is so flat out wrong on the facts. More than that, anyone who knows a little history KNOWS it's completely wrong.

    "There's no industry that's improved safety or security without governments forcing it to do so.", he said.

    Has Bruce never heard of Underwriters Laboratories (UL listed, UL registered, etc)? Underwriters means insurance companies. That's not government, that's insurance companies offering guidance and an incentive. How about the National Fire Protection Association, which writes the fire codes? That's another safety organization started by insurance companies, and insurance companies wouldn't insure a building unless it met fire code. Later, local governments ALSO said "me to", but the NFPA and fire codes were created by insurance companies, not government.

    The auto companies were advertising safety innovations for half a century before there was any major legistlature. From Dusenberg advertising hydraulic brakes in the 1920s to Ford marketing safety glasses in all its cars in the 1930s to padded dashboards, safety cages, and disc brakes in the 1940s - it wasn't until the 1960s that the government got involved.

    So it's simply factually incorrect, plain wrong, to say "There's no industry that's improved safety or security without governments forcing it to do so". My side gig is pyrotechnics, fireworks. A LOT of what we talk about and work on in the industry is safety, sometimes talking about how to convince the government official to allow us to do things the safer way rather than insisting on outdated procedures, or things that are a bad (dangerous) fit for the situation.

  2. Re: Libertarian fantasies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    There are two flaws with your argument.

    1) you don't know what you're talking about

    2) everything else

  3. The government of all things? by gweihir · · Score: 3, Informative

    You mean the creeps that want to backdoor everything and compromise all security in order to be able to listen to and record everything? Fat chance. These people will only make everything worse.

    Bruce Schneier has an irrational trust in authority. He really should know better by now.

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