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Many Pay High Investment Company Fees For Services They Don't Use, Survey Shows (consumerreports.org)

Penelope Wang, writing for Consumer Reports: If you are investing in stocks, bonds, or mutual funds, you have a wide range of options to help manage your portfolio -- everything from traditional brokerages to mutual fund companies to online financial firms. But as consumers search for an investment company, many pay little attention to the fees they're being charged, according to a just-released Consumer Reports survey of more than 46,000 CR members. Four out of 10 surveyed said they weren't sure what they paid in fees. And of those who knew the costs, only 60 percent rated their investment company in our survey as Excellent or Very Good on the amount charged.

"Hidden and confusing fees are proliferating across the marketplace, making it hard for consumers to know what they're getting for their money, and to comparison shop across providers," says Anna Laitin, director of financial policy at Consumers Union, the advocacy division of Consumer Reports. "It is concerning that so many investors don't know how much they are paying in fees and that many of those who do understand the fees don't appear to think they are getting their money's worth," she says.

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  1. Fees Don't Matter When You Don't Trade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unless you're a very high net worth individual, you probably don't have access to the sorts of funds that charge a percentage of assets under management and even if you did you'd be better off without the professional traders. Instead you probably pay commission on trades and the financial industry is setup to get you into a trading mindset. They're always trying to get you into this or rotate out of that so that they can make extra trade commissions off of you. Warren Buffet was right when he observed that you should treat trades like an extremely scarce commodity. The example he used was of a punch card with 25 punches on it representing all of the trades that you will make in your lifetime. If you don't want to own a security for 10 years then you sure as hell don't want to own it for 10 hours or 10 minutes. If you think that's crazy then consider this. Warren Buffet defeated all challengers in his ten year charity benefit investment competition starting in 2008. How did he do it? He bought the S&P 500 Index fund and sat on it. Buffet won handily with an average 7.1% return, including the time period of the Great Recession, against a runner up of 2.2% average return for the next best actively managed portfolio. Think about that the next time an investment broker pitches you a financial product or a trade. The old adage still applies. If it sounds to good to be true it probably is.

  2. a 0.5% reduction is fees is a 40% INCREASE in 401K by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just remember that people...a 0.5% reduction in fees is often a 40% INCREASE in your pension when you retire. The numbers are so small i.e 0.5% that most people don't seem to do the math or care. But here's how it works

    Your average return is probably around 4-6% each year if you are 60/40% bonds/equities or similar (this can be higher or lower obviously) for general employee 401Ks that most people don't look

    So your REAL return is minus inflation lets say that's around 2.5% - so you are actually only getting 1.5%-3.5% ..

    Your 401K provider then takes 0,5-1.5% of this!! That's basically saying they take no risk and can take 40-100% of your return for providing an IT platform, some customer service and linking to exchanges and brokers...

    Frankly its ridiculous - its like Microsoft charging you a % fee for how much you make from its products...investment products should obviously be charged at a flat fee i.e 40USD/ mth like any other service...but then, that's why they can afford to lobby politicians and drive a porsche whilst the people who retire on their 401Ks live out a meager lifestyle and wonder where their money went!? All because they can't be bothered to look at their 401K or plan for the future...its a great system for the motivated to rob the unmotivated.

    Take heed...investigate what your paying and move to index trackers or trusted funds that charge more BUT RETURN MORE TOO!

  3. Investment companies are a racket by bradley13 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For normal people, investment companies are a racket. They exist to take your money...and keep it.

    If you go to an investment brokerage that actively manages your money, they not only have their own fees, they also love to buy into high-fee mutual funds that give them a kick-back. My mother had her money with a name-brand brokerage, with a broker she considered a friend - and they still kept buying and selling these high-fee mutual funds. The buying is bad enough, but cashing out and buying into another fund a year later is... Well, it's very clever. For the broker. Who is fulfilling their primary goal of keeping their clients' money for themselves.

    Normal people wanting to invest really have only two choices:

    - Take charge of your own investments. Learn what you're doing, and buy stuff for the long-term. If you buy a stock, buy it with the intent to keep it for several years.

    - If that's not your thing, they buy low-fee index funds. In addition to the market index funds, there are also more specific ones out there. The point is, they are funds with little management, and hence very low fees. Buy into index funds, and sit on them for the long term.

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    1. Re:Investment companies are a racket by nealric · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Do yourself a favor. Ignore the financial adviser and just open an account with Vanguard or Fidelity. Put 70% of your money in a total stock market index, and 30% in a total bond market index. Rebalance annually (i.e. reallocate so you don't drift too far from 70/30). That's literally all you need to do. The financial industry wants you to think it's complicated so they can skim fees for "managing" or "advising."

  4. Obama's Admin had a rule going in place by rsilvergun · · Score: 1, Insightful

    that investment firms would be legally required to have their clients best interests at heart (Fiduciary Responsibility and all that).

    I'll give you 3 guesses what happened to that rule when the administration changed....

    BTW, what the *bleep* is this doing on /.? I get that we're an aging demographic but is this a slashvertisement or something? Does the parent company of /. own the linked article? Ah well.

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