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The Full Photoshop CC Is Coming To the iPad In 2019 (arstechnica.com)
The "real version" of Photoshop is coming to the iPad next year, complete with a user interface similar to the desktop application and all the main tools. Ars Technica reports: Photoshop for iPad has a user interface structured similarly to the desktop application. It is immediately familiar to users of the application but tuned for touch screens, with larger targets and adaptations for the tablet as well as gestures to streamline workflows. Both touch and pencil input are supported. The interface is somewhat simpler than the desktop version, and although the same Photoshop code is running under the hood to ensure there's no loss of fidelity, not every feature will be available in the mobile version. The first release will contain the main tools while Adobe plans to add more in the future. Cloud syncing is a key element of Photoshop on iPad. Edits made on the iPad will be synchronized transparently with the desktop -- no conversions or import/export process to go through. Using a feature not available in the iPad version should then be as simple as hitting save and then opening the file on the desktop, picking up where you left off. Adobe is also reportedly building a tablet painting app called Project Gemini, which "simulates real brushes, paints, and materials as well as the interactions between them," reports Ars. "It combines raster graphics, vector drawing, and the Photoshop engine into a single application designed for artwork and illustration."
What a great feature! Very convenient too in terms of license. All you need to do is pay $99 a month and you can access your content. Just don't forget to pay.
Adobe, you are a bloated piece of hog anus.
Unfortunately its MY hog anus.
I pay you, I swear I must be a sadomasochist.
I'm am trying to leave, I've gotten off of everything but Lightroom, Photoshop and Illustrator.
Photoshop hasn't had one innovation in 7 years. Other than monthly payments ;)
Why would you want that on an iPad? It's such a weak way to work.
I've successfully left Adobe Premiere, for DaVinci Resolve. Thank sweet susie.
There are still people that hold an iPad is for consumption only. The many professional level editing tools already on the iPad should have been an indication this was not the case - but full photoshop on the iPad should put the last nail in the coffin for that notion.
The interesting thing is that performance should be pretty spectacular. More and more Adobe has been leveraging neural networks for editing tasks, and with the new Neural Engine that will undoubtedly also be in new iPads just to be released, there's the possibility performance on an iPad could be significantly greater than on PC's with all but the most powerful GPU's.
I was going to cancel Adobe CC as I had been using the iPad more and more for editing, but now I'm going to stick around and see how Photoshop comes out... if it's anywhere near as good as Affinity Photo, the iPad could be the premier place to edit photos.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Glad to see this option for iPad users, although I have been very happy with Affinity Photo (great photoshop replacement) and Designer (great illustrator replacement so far). Maybe these aren't as feature rich as Adobe, but a one time purhcase of $30 each has made my life a lot easier.
Superfaggot Ken Doll is going to find out soon though there are consequences for lying incessantly. His breathless bitch shilling here is a much lesser crime obviously. There will be consequences for his lies.
"the iPad could be the premier place to edit photos" What a fucking moron lol. It's beyond just dishonest, is he actually retarded?
Definitely. Because it is Neural.
Are you really so ignorant of image and video editing that you have no idea what Adobe is doing?
Do you even listen to yourself?
No I don't talk to myself, I just post informative information based on what I actually know, from reading, developing, and actually using real world applications.
Maybe you should get out more. Or maybe you are out too much, and that's why the modern digital world is eluding you so badly? I mean, Jesus Christ buddy, your response makes you look like you have Alzheimers or something.
I'll let you have the last response out of pity.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
iPad editing is I find nicer because of the stylus (and because of all that Affinity Photo can do). When you can zoom in and out so quickly the fact that you don't have a 32" monitor (which I do) does not matter so much... that's why I've taken to editing more photos on the iPad.
The only thing still a bit clunky is iOS file management but they are getting there, very close now.
For batch editing I still use a "real" computer but final edits on selected photos I use the iPad. Also now for travel the iPad is a much nicer way to go than even a fairly small laptop.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
And Paul Allen was the last thing standing in its way.
#DeleteChrome
You can easily complain about CC (I do) without fabricating things like cost.
I pay $10/month (not $99) and that includes 100GB of storage along with access to the photographic apps (photography plan).
Even for the Full CC suite of apps PLUS Adobe Stock, you are only talking $83/month.
Of course, to me that storage seems so laughably small I would only use it for projects I would then move out of the adobe cloud again. But it's not $100/month as you are absurdly claiming.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Pixelmator is a superior product.
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
Your ongoing dishonesty will lead to real world consequences for you, Ken Doll. Repent, denialist faggot. Save yourself while you still can.
Tablets are only good for consumption.
If you can do your "work" on a tablet, then your work is superfluous fluff. Doesn't even need to be outsourced, it can simply be eliminated at will.
Real men doing real work need real desktops.
They knew the MacBook line was going down the toilet.
The iPad is going to be the only way they keep their Apple user base..
$100 / month, $1,200 / year, would be absurd, wouldn't it.
That would be $6,000 over 5 years
> you are only talking $83/month.
> But it's not $100/month as you are absurdly claiming.
Yeah, only $1000 / year. Not $1,200 - that would be absurd.
If I were a freelance graphic designer, it might very well make sense for me to get Adobe. Fortunately there are many free and open source graphics editors that work as well or better for what I do, including some of the same tools used by Pixar and ILM to paint blockbuster Hollywood monies.
For every fake face and body on all media. They have destroyed society with their lies.
It's too expensive. I use Gimp for iPad.
I wonder if the success of Krita finally made them care about Corel-Painter-X-like software.
Let's see how much code they steal, just like all the closed-source thieves. I fully expect Adobe then to sue Krita, by claiming Adobe came up with the code that Adobe stole.
The interface is somewhat simpler than the desktop version, and although the same Photoshop code is running under the hood to ensure there's no loss of fidelity, not every feature will be available in the mobile version. The first release will contain the main tools while Adobe plans to add more in the future.
If it doesn't have all the features, then it's not really the desktop version of photoshop.
Oooh, Adobe and Ipad in one post!
If they keep the GPU acceleration features intact, I can see it eating through an iPad battery in a hurry.
Who is the best end user ever? It's me.
Given the context of the story I'm curious, which are the free and open source graphics editors that are available on iPad? Do they offer the same sort of seamless mechanism of being able to edit on one device (say your iPad when you're on the go) and then continue editing on another (at your home or office)?
I don't know of any good free image editors (I'm sure there are probably some), but the thing is even the REALLY good professional editors on the iPad are only like $15 or so (like Affinity Photo). They have every feature from the desktop app as far as I know, including CMYK stuff a lot of other advanced things.
As of now any graphics editor on the iPad could have a pretty good workflow moving between iPad and computer, using iCloud Drive. I can place an image in iCloud Drive, edit that directly on the IPad and it will sync back to the computer pretty rapidly and vice/versa (Apple may have problems with some other services at times but iCloud document syncing has worked really well for me, even with very large files like large 16 or 32 bit TIFF files).
The main thing to consider with that workflow is that the iOS application writer has to put a little more work into supporting editing in place - not much, but there are a few things they have to do so not every app may support exactly that workflow. But there's no reason any graphics editor on the iPad cannot easy move between iPad and desktop now.
Photoshop will have its own syncing store, which I am highly dubious about but it could be good - I've not tried using it at all yet even though I have a CC subscription and could technically access it.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
What, has Apple made XCode for the iPad?
Ok, I have to admit THAT would indeed be the very last nail... a lot of us have been calling for that for some time. Frankly some stuff stuff like interface builder I truly feel would be better edited on an iPad with much easier (and working) live previews of custom views...
Swift Playgrounds shows that even code editing can be decent on the iPad.
I'm sure we'll get Xcode on the iPad, at some point, just not sure when. As it is people are already hammering around the edges of that with a variety of coding IDE's for the iPad.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Just wondering if it included all of the background processes? Objective Development needs to port Little Snitch to the ipad.
Is it as overpriced as the desktop version?
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
Pay for it once, use it forever.
Photoshop died when Adobe shut down Creative Suite. No way I'm renting software for $1,000 a year.
The Full Photoshop CC ...
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
not every feature will be available in the mobile version
The worst part is that people are so tripped up on the whole Photoshop cultural phenonomenon that they think you SIMPLY CANNOT paint or draw without Photoshop, that it's the single condition for being able and allowed to plop a few pixels onto the screen, and of course Adobe knows it and are capitalizing on it.
All.iPad models for the last several years are iPad are 9.7". The newest iPad Pro Large is 12.9".
With Android you have a hundred choices, up to at least 21.5" and probably larger. The most popular Android tablet is the Galaxy Tab line by Samsung. The current model, the Galaxy Tab S4, is 10.5". Also popular is Galaxy Tab A, which is 10.1 inches.
You can get an Android tablet in any size you want, the most popular models are a little bigger than an iPad.
That's not to say anything particular Android device is "better" for everyone than an iPad. That's a personal choice depending on what you want to use it for, your budget, etc. But an iPad is 9.7", an Android tablet is whatever size you want.
No thanks.
GIMP is available since a long time.
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No one edits on the iPad. That is the point. The very idea is dumb.
There is no technical reason people cannot edit on an iPad aside from the fact that to date the software for doing that task has sucked to date. Make some better software and problem solved. Nobody is arguing it is the best tool for every job but at the end of the day it's just a computer, barely different from the PCs we've been using. I already do minor edits of photos and video on my iPhone and iPad. I see no reason why anyone could not do more extensive editing with the right software. I could easily see photographers or graphics artists having a use for a portable version of Photoshop, particularly for content that will be viewed mostly on similar devices.
The notion that tablets are only for consumption and not content creation is a ridiculous artificial constraint invented for marketing the early versions of these devices which were more limited in capabilities. Current iPads are more powerful than the laptop I had just a few years ago which was more than adequate for editing photos using... wait for it....... Photoshop. No reason at all they could not be used effectively to create or edit some types of content.
This is just a marketing attempt to try to stem flagging iPad sales.
Or it's attempt by Adobe to reach their product into a new market. Do you have any actual evidence to the contrary or are you just being snarky?
The reason iPad and other tablet sales are stagnant is because software developers (including Apple) have been (stupidly) treating them as either a supersized smartphone or a handicapped laptop when in reality it is neither of those things. Having a 10 inch screen and possibly a stylus should result in software that can do more than is practical on a smartphone. It would be trivial to amp up the operating performance of a tablet if one is willing to add a bit of bulk. And yet almost nobody writes software to take full advantage of what it can do. They just make one application that can run more or less the same on a phone or a tablet and call it a day. It's an opportunity missed.
Apple probably paid Adobe money to port some version over.
Assuming that is true, so what? If it provides a valuable tool for some people then how is that a bad thing? Apple would be stupid to not explore whether this is a viable market segment for them. Not like they don't have the money to give it a try.
I had an iPad for three years and never really used it, because I don't see the niche for it. I already have my large phone in my pocket and it can do pretty much anything an iPad can do, without carrying an extra device.
There is a niche for them but it's something of a missed opportunity to date. For example a 10" iPad with a stylus could in principle be the most awesome device for note taking ever. Every student and many professionals could use one and it solves a lot of problems with paper and laptops. Problem is that nobody has written decent software to solve this problem. Believe me, I've looked and nearly all of it sucks. I could easily see tablet's basically being a replacement for the venerable pad of paper in a lot of circumstances with the right software. Personally I think the primary target market for tablets should be any place you would use a pen and pad of paper.
I think a lot of it stems from the fact that they originally marketed these things as content consumption devices and the idea stuck. They continue to propagate this foolish notion even to this day. They get treated as supersized smartphones rather than a separate category with unique capabilities. That bigger screen is a HUGE missed opportunity because it's just too easy for developers to write software for smartphones that caters to the least common denominator and doesn't take full advantage of what a tablet could do that a smartphone cannot.
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While it wasn't the full PhotoShop, Adobe did for awhile produce versions of PhotoShop for the Android phone and tablet. (Not the silly little red-eye photo editor they call PhotoShop on Android now.)
It had way better functionality than any other image editor I've used on Android, with many of PhotoShop's nicities. It was also surprisingly useful and easy to use with a touch interface, not an easy accomplishment.
I bought both the Phone and Tablet versions (I think they were $10 and $20 respectively), and it easy was (and is) my favorite Android app of all time.
Aaaaaannnd they go and suddenly discontinue the product.
While it isn't visible in the Play Store any more, since I did purchase it, I can still download and install it on new devices, thankfully. But I'm sure those days are numbered.
I'm not sure why they pulled it, I think they gave some vague "focus on other stuff" excuse, but I wonder if they were concerned it's great core functionality might have ended up competing with their desktop product for some users...?
Very sad and stupid situation, wish they'd bring it back.
Glad to see the iPad will be getting some PhotoShop love. Hopefully it will be a $20-ish product like the earlier Android product, but given that they're calling it "full PhotoShop" I'm guessing it will be hundreds, out out of my range.
Too bad, they had me as customer, and could have more of my money in the future, if they had just continued down that road they were on with a powerful, cost-effective, phone/tablet version of their product.
Oh well, there's no use trying to make sense of corporate greed, even if they're missing out on bigger opportunities because of it.
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Using photoshop without a mouse sounds like the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. Oh wait, no, running it on a processor that's in an iPad is the stupidest thing, not to mention the RAM.
That makes more sense. It sounds like it's not so much the *size* you're talking about, but the *aspect ratio*. iPads are 4:3 aspect ratio, most Android tablets are 16:9. That's the ratio of height to width.
4:3 is closer to the aspect ratio of letter sized paper.
There are, of course, some Android tablets that are 4:3, such as the Galaxy Tab S3. Most are 16:9. If you ever find yourself shopping for an Android for whatever reason, Google for 4:3 Android to get the shape that you prefer.
Personally, I like that I can get Android in 16:9, 4:3, 16:10, whatever I want.
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On a 24" screen I struggle to keep Photoshop's bazillion palettes, panels and whatnot from completely obscuring the artwork I'm trying to draw. On a 9" iPad there'll be constant panning/zooming and switching between palettes.
The lack of a physical keyboard makes many types of content creation much less efficient (typing, video editing, etc.).
Which is irrelevant if the content you are creating isn't related to typing. Like I said they should be targeted at replacing paper note pads which would primarily involve fingers + stylus. Laptops already do a more than adequate job of dealing with tasks that require a keyboard for most applications. Yes you can add one to a tablet if needed but trying to make a tablet into a laptop is mostly a fools errand.
The problem with tablets is NOT the hardware. The problem is the (sucky) software which fails to take full advantage of what they can do.
I/O is limited (a single Lightning port for charging and USB-2.0-speed I/O). This will go away when Apple adopts USB-C ports on their iDevices.
This is a good approximation of a non-issue. You seem to be forgetting about WiFi, Bluetooth, NFC, etc. There are innumerable tasks that aren't particular I/O intensive that tablets can handle just fine. It's not like one needs gigabit ethernet to write notes or take pictures etc. I agree that Apple should move to USB-C but I/O speed isn't the primary reason for that.
Tablets have insufficient RAM to work with large projects without constant paging (which would significantly reduce hardware life expectancy unless very carefully managed).
A) "Large" is an ambiguous term and tablets have more than enough memory to do a huge variety of useful tasks right now. B) It is a trivial proposition to add more memory to these devices provided one is willing to add physical size to them.
To make a tablet work well for content creation, you would need to give it a laptop-sized battery, which means a laptop-sized tablet.
Not even remotely true unless you are doing work that should be done on a laptop anyway. And there is no inherent reason tablets have to be smaller than laptops anyway for all use cases. Thinking of tablets as weak laptops or supersized smartphones is precisely the problem. They need to be their own special category or there is no point to them.
Actually, it isn't. That's the point I was trying to make when I mentioned video editing. A LOT of creative tools make use of the keyboard.
You are thinking that the only practical way to do things is the way we do them currently and are having trouble thinking beyond the mouse/keyboard interface. Function and meta keys are useful but reliance on them in far too many cases is a simple case of the proverbial "if the only tool you have is a hammer every problem becomes a nail". They make use of the keyboard because they have a keyboard to make use of, not because it is necessarily the best way to do a given task. Keyboards are great tools but one of the smart decisions Apple (and others) made a while back was to de-emphasize them with tablets because it forced software developers to actually think about their interface instead of absent mindedly relying on a keyboard like they always have and thinking of tablets as a type of laptop. Same thing with a stylus - developers historically wanted to be lazy and treat it like a mouse which is rarely a good interface decision.
Thinking of a tablet as a type of laptop (or as a supersized smartphone) is precisely the reason the software for them sucks and their sales have stagnated. Yes you can find tasks for which a tablet isn't the best tool for the job. The problem is that we don't have the software for SOME tasks where they should be the best tool for the job - note taking IMO being paramount among them.
Wi-Fi is only really viable in the presence of an infrastructure network, because in both IBSS and peer-to-peer modes, you're limited to 802.11g speeds.
So what? 802.11g is plenty fast for lots of tasks and the faster versions of wifi are not hard to find when needed. The wireless network in our company runs that speed and we very successfully run ERP, accounting, and engineering software over it. Our physical ethernet network is still mostly 10/100 and that is FINE. Plus you aren't considering LTE which is plenty fast for lots of uses when you aren't near wifi or only have slow wifi available.
Try importing a few dozen 4 GB video files over 802.11g.
How many people do you think actually do this routinely? If you are doing that sort of work, yeah a tablet probably isn't your tool of choice. But VERY few people as a percent of the general population spend much time working with multiple GB files and heavy duty video editing. Certainly nobody I work with. You are thinking of this technology from a very narrow collection of use cases that don't apply to most of the population. If you want to pick tasks for which a tablet isn't an ideal tool it isn't hard but that's not a very useful discussion. A laptop isn't a great tool for making phone calls even though technically it can do it. Horses for courses and all that. Don't make the mistake of thinking that because a tablet isn't the right tool for some jobs that it is the wrong tool for all jobs.
There's a reason I use my laptop for everything and never bothered to upgrade my tablet hardware, which is now sitting unused. Even right now, I cannot do even 1% of the things I do on my laptop while using a tablet — not because the software isn't there, but because the hardware couldn't support the software even if it existed.
I think that argument is bogus. In any case it shows you are missing my point. Current tablets are plenty powerful enough to do lots of useful work and plenty of people do it every day and I'm pretty sure a lot of what you do could be done just fine with a tablet. My wife is a doctor and her office staff does all their data capture for patient charts on tablets with some software that was developed specifically with their capabilities in mind - works great. I wrote software to enable work instructions and tooling data to be available on tablets in our manufacturing plant - a laptop would actually be kind of clumsy for that purp
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