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Twitter Publishes Archive of 10 Million Tweets From Russian, Iranian Bots (boingboing.net)

AmiMoJo shares a report from Boing Boing: To enable "further research of information operations on Twitter," the company today published a dataset of tweets posted by known Russian and Iranian troll farms. "These large datasets comprise 3,841 accounts affiliated with the IRA, originating in Russia, and 770 other accounts, potentially originating in Iran," the blog post reads. "They include more than 10 million Tweets and more than 2 million images, GIFs, videos, and Periscope broadcasts, including the earliest on-Twitter activity from accounts connected with these campaigns, dating back to 2009." You can download the Russian and Iranian datasets here. The Russian dataset is comprised of 1.24GB of tweets and 300GB of media, while the Iranian dataset is comprised of 168MB of tweets and 65.7GB of media.

144 comments

  1. International Troll Farms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where is the dataset of US troll farms?

    1. Re:International Troll Farms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      SuperKendall
      c6gunner
      RayMorris
      Luckyo
      ShanghaiBillfromSanDiego
      Miserable old faggot Archie Bunker
      Wumpwuss
      > ---hit tab to continue--- >

    2. Re:International Troll Farms by BeauHD++(5555555) · · Score: 0

      You left out PUTIN.

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    3. Re:International Troll Farms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "These large datasets comprise 3,841 accounts affiliated with the IRA..."
      Jeez, the Irish Republican Army is still a thing? Well, there is that whole Republican aspect...

    4. Re:International Troll Farms by Antiocheian · · Score: 1

      Luckyo isn't a troll. He may have strong opinions about issues, but I didn't feel that he tried to enforce them upon others.

    5. Re:International Troll Farms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Where is the dataset of US troll farms?"

      We farm those out of course.

    6. Re: International Troll Farms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder how many of my posts are there. Democrats constantly call anyone who disagrees with them a Russian troll. I would like to see the evidence if there is any.

  2. uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They aren't archiving all the ISIS posts? ISIS had 100s of accounts all spamming terrorist propaganda 24/7 basically Obama's whole second term. Can we get an archive of THAT? Started around 2013 when John Brennan became CIA director, and ended around 2017 when Trump took over and replaced Brennan with Pompeo.

    1. Re:uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      ISIS is muslim and Twitter is run by lefties, so publishing ISIS tweets would be racist or something.

    2. Re:uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Shh, Russian bots stole the election, the TV man said so.

    3. Re:uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2018/10/18/trump-family-misled-potential-investors-propublica-investigation-newday-vpx.cnn

    4. Re: uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool! They patched the client to post CNN articles!

    5. Re:uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by Njovich · · Score: 2

      If they put up an archive of ISIS material they would be blamed for spreading terrorist propaganda by idiots. Idiots like the UK government.

    6. Re:uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by quantaman · · Score: 0

      They aren't archiving all the ISIS posts? ISIS had 100s of accounts all spamming terrorist propaganda 24/7 basically Obama's whole second term. Can we get an archive of THAT? Started around 2013 when John Brennan became CIA director, and ended around 2017 when Trump took over and replaced Brennan with Pompeo.

      What are ISIS posts? Posts by people claiming to be official members of ISIS? People in Syria who seem to be posting pro-ISIS propaganda? What about people who seem to be from other similar groups? What about the ISIS fanboys? ISIS posts actually ends up being a lot harder to define than you realize.

      The Russian and Iranian bots however, that's relatively straightforward. Groups affiliated with the Russian and Iranian governments make a set of bots, and these bots network together and generate comments. Once you find the networks and figure out what bot posts look like you can identify the bots and publish their tweets.

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    7. Re:uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Informative

      ISIS don't bother to disguise their posts with fake accounts. That's the issue here, not the content but the deception.

      Also, PROTIP, when attempting what-about-ism don't put "what about" in the title of your post. Best to be at least a little bit subtle.

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    8. Re:uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Orange man bad

    9. Re:uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Dude you just said "There is no way to tell who is posting the pro isis stuff."
      and then turned around to say all but "Any bots we say are russian or iranian bots are real!" How can you not know one, but know the other? Better question, How do you know who the bots belong to? People all over the world write bot sources.

    10. Re:uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Who keeps modding up Amimojo? Protip, lmao

    11. Re:uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by helpfulcorn · · Score: 2

      Yeah Iran has no Muslims or Islamic agenda of any kind.

    12. Re:uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      ISIS don't bother to disguise their posts with fake accounts. That's the issue here, not the content but the deception.

      Also, PROTIP, when attempting what-about-ism don't put "what about" in the title of your post. Best to be at least a little bit subtle.

      There's nothing wrong with "whataboutism" if it makes a valid point.

      People sure work hard to try to magically make (sometimes) effective arguments be out of bounds.

    13. Re:uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What valid point is it making?

      The concerns Twitter are addressing relate to professional troll farms, not ideological extremists. ISIS tweets would add absolutely nothing of value to the survey, and it's extremely hard for me to comprehend the logic that says "Oh, so Twitter is publishing information making it easier to do research on bad faith tweets from fake accounts built by governmental organizations trying to interfere with an election, WHAT ABOUT ISIS?

      What the fuck does ISIS have to do with the price of tea in China?

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    14. Re: uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Orange man so bad literally shaking!

    15. Re: uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Irans Muslims are of different kind. Just like Irelands Christians are as a rule not Protestant .

    16. Re: uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but what Iranians have to do with IRA which stands for Irish that's right Oireesh Terrorist Army?

      Isn't it clear that these bot farms were just for hire, because of cheap labour in Russia or Iran?

    17. Re: uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by helpfulcorn · · Score: 1

      Child soldiers made to walk over landmines in the Iran-Iraq war, death fatwas on authors, forced sex changes for homosexuals or death, gunning down protesters, fixing elections... I don't think you know much about Iran, or Ireland for that matter.

    18. Re:uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny because I can find 100s of ISIS accounts and their activity is almost twice what it was before Trump. Sad when direct data can disprove your assertions, huh?

    19. Re:uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      way to miss the point.

      we knew those were isis. these were meant to be average users when they were in fact propaganda. worth checking them out, pretty fascinating stuff.

    20. Re: uhh, what about ISIS? Archive of that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet, Irans Moslems have nothing in common with Saudi funded wahabists that did the 9/11 and Iranians are actively fighting your ISIS buddies.

  3. Wait a minute, Iranian?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That means they hacked Twitter to get the nuclear agreement passed! Or maybe they are now hacking to get it stopped or reinstated!

    I never know what to think unless CNN tells me!

  4. What about US & Five Eyes bots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know, given that their budget is more than an order of magnitude bigger.

    Also, who verifies that they are actually bots? Or what their intent is? Or if that intend is good or bad for me?
    Or that they ever existed? Or that they weren't created by the opposite "side" under a false flag.

    Things like this always strike me as awfully nationalist and willfully ignorant propaganda terrorism. (So just like such bots.)
    No matter which "side" publishes whatever about which other "side". I'd be saying the same, if it was Pravda (or whatever) publishing US propaganda only.

    1. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by vux984 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Things like this always strike me as awfully nationalist and willfully ignorant propaganda terrorism. (So just like such bots.)"

      Yes. And?

      I mean, it is what you say it is. The US surely runs it's own too. And we're not going to get to see it unless or until someone leaks it. Which at some point will likely happen.

      And then perhaps you'll speculate it was a false flag to make us look bad? Which it might be.

      At some point you have to choose what you will believe, and determine what sources are likely to be as credible as is reasonable.

      So... where does that leave us?

    2. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "and determine what sources are likely to be as credible as is reasonable." - But we do this and the Republicans cry "Academia and science and unions and women are against us, how can we trust anything they're involved with?"

      The math is EXTREMELY CLEAR ALREADY. https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/tv/fox/

    3. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by AHuxley · · Score: 4, Informative

      Re 5 eye efforts
      "GCHQ has tools to manipulate online information, leaked documents show" (15 Jul 2014)
      https://www.theguardian.com/uk...
      Welcome to CLEAN SWEEP and UNDERPASS.

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    4. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So... where does that leave us?

      People need to step up and do their damn job. Freedom isn't free. It takes constant vigilance. A reasonably educated person that tried could have spotted much of this crap.

      Of course you have the problem of tribalism where people either believe, state they believe, or flat don't give a crap that their tribe is embracing lies if it serves their purpose, directly or indirectly. I particularly love it when it is the people who think they are super moral by doing so as if their tribes goals are the right thing, no matter how many sins must be committed to see them done. That too we must fight against.

      People need to think of voting as the single absolute most important action they do in their lifetimes, because it is, because if they don't vote, then they have effectively spit on the freedom given to us by our government. In short people that don't vote are a drain on society. Unless you physically can't make it to the polls you need to vote.

      Like it or not, we are at war, with a countless set of possible enemies that are ready willing and able to manipulate us in ways that are not in our best interest, and from now on likely always will be. It will get more and more sophisticated. Hell it won't be that many years before they can fake everything with video. Just imagine, a decade or so from now when someone like Trump can not only embrace conspiracy theories for his gain but can easily dig up "evidence" that is very difficult to discount. The job of a voter isn't getting any easier, but we have to do it.

    5. Re: What about US & Five Eyes bots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well said. I dont know who you vote for and I dont care.

    6. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      We know for a fact that GCHQ uses these tactics because their manual on how to do it was leaked.

      However, it doesn't appear that the west does it on anything like the scale that Russia does. You can't really hide something that large, Russia certainly can't. It doesn't matter though, it works because people see a meme or post confirming their existing biases and making them feel that it's okay to say those things, and don't pause to ask "is this a Russian fake account?" or wonder if they are being manipulated.

      I'm not saying that the US/UK/etc are any better, just more subtle and clandestine about it. They tend to target smaller groups and individuals with specific goals in mind, rather than carpet bombing social media to cause maximum division and chaos.

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    7. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It's a shame we don't have more evidence of how these techniques are actually used in practice. For example we know that the Russians organized events in the US via their fake social media accounts, which people went to. I'd imagine that GCHQ does the same but would love to see an example.

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    8. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by houghi · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Yeah, but in America the bots are humans that are brainwashed by one of the two party systems news sources.

      (Self test: If you are offended by the information above, you are re-programmed.)

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    9. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by Crass+Spektakel · · Score: 1

      > The US surely runs it's own too.

      Nope, it doesn't. There is not even one single account of false flag propaganda by the executive branch of the US.

      Maybe some US citizens do in their spare time but most likely they are not paid by the goverment.

      I know that because I have been watching troll propaganda on the internet since the 1980ths. And I have never ever found even the slightest evidence for false flag propaganda by western goverments. On the other hand there where MILLIONS of such events by Iran, Russia and - a lot less but still - some thousand events by china, north korea, syria and some more. Especially the iranian propaganda was at times incredibly easy to spot by using word-for-word translation of persian language and using totally strange metaphores. They have gotten better over the years but still drop a clanger from time to time (those guy think "canine devotion" sounds bad to westerners but the opposite is usually true). The russian trolls where usually a lot more competent. Still, a clanger from time to time, mostly when they mix up their russian daily life with western daily life. My personal favorite: I was backtrolling a russian troll about Woolworths in the US. He totally fell for it and postet about how horrible Woolworth is towards its customers and workers and so on.... thing is, there is no Woolworth in the US for like 20 years... there are lots of Woolworths everywhere else but not in the US. But still Woolworth is very well known in Russia as the typical "western super market". I also backdroll them a lot about western sports (which i know absolutely shit about but these guys know even less) and they always fall for it.

      On some forums there are like 50% of all posts by bots and foreign drolls. Just get along and live with it.

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    10. Re: What about US & Five Eyes bots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't vote. There hasn't been a candidate I would support in decades. Each one is as bad as the other, and my action voting would make no difference to me, since the outcome will be mostly the same.

      Drain on the system my ass. Go fuck yourself with that, that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

    11. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The US and UK versions would be in nation as far as ip range and in the same language.
      The tech used to create content would be perfect and isolated for that nation and mission.

      The art work, persona created and time zone spent would often just be strange and the tell the West had rushed into for a few reasons.
      The only real tell for US and UK operations was a lack of trusted translators and the ability to quickly create a normal back history of years on another nations version of social media.
      Time zone use also matched UK office hours due to the total amount of accounts created, needing the same messages and art work, slogans and not having enough staff with the needed language skills and clearance.
      A few people in UK 9-5 office hours got creating too many new regional and language connected accounts to go back and fill in normal account details.
      The mission as to get the slogan out and people protesting via social media.
      A name with no face, no past but urging people to join a slogan with a banner and art work in the local language kind of stands out.
      Again and again with protest slogans and links to safe "free" proxy and VPN like services to join the protest.
      Also accounts that just resurfaced that a nations rather telco skilled security services could not "contain".
      Accounts that only joined just as a protest movement started and only repeated protest slogans.

      The next steps for the West is a lot more translators. A lot more staff to work non UK 9 to 5 shifts to blend in with a local time zone.
      The ability to totally create an entire back history with images, events and a past online history of an account to make the account seem "human" for that region.
      From within that social media product and searches on US "search" engines. Back dated to show they have history on the site.
      An advanced trick usually saved for embassy staff with a very fake resume and an under cover mission. So their searchable created past is back dated on the real time "internet".
      Expect a lot better online profiles and images, photo history.
      Down to hair cut, fashion for that nation, slang, years of account use and then post on regime change, protest movements.

      The next issue is the face for a profile. Get that reverse look up wrong and a very local person is suddenly a citizen all over long lost social media in the UK, USA?

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    12. Re: What about US & Five Eyes bots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So basically, you can tell by the pixels.

    13. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It doesn't matter though, it works because people see a meme or post confirming their existing biases and making them feel that it's okay to say those things, and don't pause to ask "is this a Russian fake account?" or wonder if they are being manipulated.

      "and making them feel that it's okay to say those things"????

      So the real problem is that it might undermine our little domestic cultural revolution, which otherwise would successfully make people feel that it's not OK to say unapproved things?

    14. Re: What about US & Five Eyes bots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ami, you are being lazy like that, your MI6 curators will find out and cut your cookie allowance. Pray be agood girl and explain us every point.

    15. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drink x3!

      First for AmiMojo using the slur freeze peach to insult and dehumanize people he doesn't like

      Second for AmiMojo telling people what they're thinking (obsessing)

      Third for AmiMojo excusing himself from having any meaningful honest dialogue with others while saying it's the other side who makes discussions futile.

    16. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

      There is not even one single account of false flag propaganda by the executive branch of the US.

      Uh huh. The Smith-Mundt act that bans propaganda on domestic audiences must have been gutted in 2012 for absolutely no reason at all, just in time with the rise and popularity of social media.

      Furthermore, the agencies that routinely do troll propaganda on foreign populations are also entities beholden to themselves, with their own interests and motivations to protect their own budgets. Perhaps you'd also like to claim that the oversight and accountability congress has over these sprawling massive agencies is so good as to make this impossible.

      But if you say so....

    17. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're advocating for the pissed off majority to go ahead and go out slaughtering the right wingers that fuck it up for all of us? That is the logical conclusion of your post. While that would be a somewhat permanent solution, it would also be very messy. Plus I have some non-retarded right wing friends that are salvageable.

    18. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you don't believe when the FBI and CIA readily admit to using propaganda? Did you know that literally every "counter-revolution" in a socialist country was started by the CIA? If you did any amount of research at all you would know this. They still readily admit to doing it. Why don't you believe them when they provide millions of pages of hard evidence that they do?

    19. Re: What about US & Five Eyes bots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only a very specific kind of science, the one real scientists (like the CERN Italian guy) are themselves very much fed up with.

    20. Re: What about US & Five Eyes bots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ami has a problem with troll farms form the poor countries . They compete against him or should I say them. Every time the Irish buy an Iranian troll shop, the MI6 job Ami and other semi literary hacks does looks more and more obsolete.

    21. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Pass the bottle. After being randomly accused of wanting to control people's speech for the Nth time, despite being a bigger proponent of most of these freeze peach losers who want to stop people disagreeing with them because it might have consequences, I really can't be bothered.

      I'll happily have an honest dialogue, but I've been here before and I don't think cascadingstylesheet will believe it if I tell him that's not at all what I meant. And I have little faith that they would respond in good faith, rather than just making further accusations based on their own misconceptions about me.

      We can try a little experiment if you like. My explanation is that I was talking about what people feel able to say openly in society. For example most people would probably be embarrassed to discuss their sex life in public, especially on national TV. Not saying that's a good thing, it would actually be better if we could talk about it more. What I'm observing is that due to people like UKIP recycling Nazi propaganda it's become socially acceptable to repeat certain myths or say really quite bigoted stuff. Again, that's their right, free speech means they can say it (if they accept the consequences), all I'm doing is observing that the Russians were working to make this happen as a way to divide us.

      In short people used to be embarrassed to be racists and we mostly got along, now they are open about it the country is massively divided. How could it not be, when racism in particular is often very personal?

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    22. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Re "would love to see an example."
      Uncovering British spies’ web of sockpuppet social media personas
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    23. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I'm going to watch that later. Trust the CCC to find it!

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    24. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      freeze peach losers

      Already drank on the dehumanizing slur

      being randomly accused of wanting to control people's speech for the Nth time

      who want to stop people disagreeing with them

      New drink! AmiMojo is dreaming up conspiracy theories where he's the victim (just like those "freeze peach warriors" he makes fun of, btw, but oh it's only those freeze peach warriors who are the losers)

      I'll happily have an honest dialogue

      Drink for AmiMojo making empty claim about himself with no evidence...

      I have little faith that they would respond in good faith

      ...but then provide counter evidence of how little faith he has for other people!

      Hint: this is AmiMojo's way of saying "I'd have a battle of wits but other people are unarmed". It's an insult masking itself as a genuine argument *in good faith*

      My explanation is that I was talking about what people feel able to say openly in society.

      So you go beyond just telling people what they're thinking, but what they're feeling too!

      Drink for more typical AmiMojo "it's ok when I do it, but if other people do it to me, I get triggered and make a journal post complaining that other people are telling me what I think!"

      all I'm doing is observing

      Drink for AmiMojo ignoring his own previous post where where he insults cascadingstylesheet as "freeze peach warrior"!

      Typical AmiMojo contradicting himself. Someone like Mashiki is crazy, but he's at least consistently crazy.

    25. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Drink for AmiMojo making empty claim about himself with no evidence...

      That's not a claim, it's an offer. Admit you don't want to take it up or address the point directly.

      My experiment is not going well.

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      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    26. Re:What about US & Five Eyes bots? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not a claim, it's an offer.

      Drink for AmiMojo failing to even read what he wrote himself that was quoted as himself being happy to have an honest dialogue! He's way ahead of Mashiki in being (deliberately?) obtuse!

      My experiment is not going well.

      Drink for AmiMojo continuing to ignore everything else said by others and go off on his own thing ("experiment") he made up, trying to move the topic away from what other people were talking about.

      This, for anybody else who still reading this, is the alt-right trick of trying to control the conversation. Look it up. It's on youtube even.

  5. Bad job twitter by NuclearCat · · Score: 4, Informative

    As native russian speaker, just in first lines directly i see posts have nothing to do with "farms". For example, f9dded769bb2275fc6531c1b4d10cf05272c48806fbd73265ef318fac0a22962 is just reposting _in russian language_ russian (Kirov) city news. Most likely just some kind of automated bot, reposting newsfeeds from aggregator.
    Can't see anything how it makes it "troll farm". And news even, seems, not biased, they reposted news from various websites pro and against government.
    I feel i will be considered criminal, by default, just because i'm posting sometimes in russian language

    1. Re:Bad job twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's part of the basic trolling toolset, to establish yourself by linking to real news before you start on the disinformation. Effective trolls mix and match between reality and distortion, thereby infecting the reality with their distortion.

    2. Re:Bad job twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I feel i will be considered criminal, by default, just because i'm posting sometimes in russian language" - Not unless you happen to lie exactly the same way as 700,000 Russian trollbots pushing the party message, right comrade? Strovia.

    3. Re:Bad job twitter by NuclearCat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Good point, possible.
      At the same time, you can blame for same any person who often repost the news.
      It smells bad and creates a conditions for action resembling repressive regime of Stalin.
      Proverb associated with such logic: "If there is a man, there is always a criminal article for him"

    4. Re:Bad job twitter by rtb61 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It is straight forward calling every Russian who uses twitter a troll. If you are Russian or Iranian and ever used twitter in English, you are now a troll and a Russian or Iranian agent. Seriously any post originating in Russia or Iran, any?!?

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    5. Re:Bad job twitter by ISayWeOnlyToBePolite · · Score: 1

      It is straight forward calling every Russian who uses twitter a troll. If you are Russian or Iranian and ever used twitter in English, you are now a troll and a Russian or Iranian agent. Seriously any post originating in Russia or Iran, any?!?

      3841 Russian and 770 Iranian accounts are the exact number accused. I'd guess the number of legit accounts are at least 1000x higher making you sound a bit hyperbolic.

    6. Re:Bad job twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work with some decent russians. There are even some who post sensible posts. But the vast majority simply attack everything they can with desinformatiya.
      Antibodies are kicking in, however. Even the slow and dumb recognize you now.

    7. Re:Bad job twitter by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Informative

      It's also a way to avoid Twitter bans and to help get Russian news sources some visibility through increased numbers of followers and retweets.

      The determination that the account is part of the troll farm is not just based on content or association, it's also stuff that Twitter has like IP addresses, operating times (Russian office hours), use of stolen profile images and occasional screw-ups like forgetting to remove the geolocation metadata from images that are posted.

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    8. Re:Bad job twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At the same time, you can blame for same any person who often repost the news.

      Not everyone is constantly posting distortions mixed with actual news. Admittedly, a lot of places do, but then that's someone I try to avoid as much as reasonable possible.

      It smells bad and creates a conditions for action resembling repressive regime of Stalin.

      I avoid Twitter almost exclusively. You couldn't avoid Stalin's repression in any meaningful way.

      Proverb associated with such logic: "If there is a man, there is always a criminal article for him"

      If it comes to the point that people are in any way being criminally published for this without serious proof that they were paid agents engage in substantial fraud, I agree it'll have gone to far. So long as this is almost exclusively a public company choosing to ban people of their own volition--so all the Congressional meddling is worrisome--especially based upon and verifiably on well established non-exclusionary policy, then I have no issue with this.

      There is definitely reason for this to be news and for people to be watchful/mindful of this so that it does remain what it is. I do not believe we're yet to the point that we need to worry of actual governmental or de facto governmental abuse.

    9. Re:Bad job twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's wrong with posting from a Russian IP during Russian working hours? Aren't Russians allowed to use twitter to procrastinate from their work? :)

      Also, if I lived in Russia, I'd most likely use an online pseudonym and perhaps even fake being a foreign citizen, just because I didn't want the government to come after me if I posted something "wrong". Online fake identities doesn't necessarily make you a state-sponsored online propagandist and troll.

    10. Re:Bad job twitter by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with posting from a Russian IP during Russian working hours? Aren't Russians allowed to use twitter to procrastinate from their work? :)

      Sure they can. And if they're posting "Hillary Clinton sucks" with a profile that says "Accountant at St Petersburg Insurance, retweets not endorsements" written in Russian, then that's fine.

      But if they're pretending to be a housewife from Minnesota then it's a bit of a dead giveaway that they post from Russian IP addresses during Russian working hours.

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      You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
    11. Re:Bad job twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut up Ivan. Pretending to be a retired auto worker from ohio when you're clearly from russia should get you banned.

      Won't be long before some of your identities are uncovered and one of you squeals on the rest. Sure when you were trolling for fun you were safe in Russia. It may have felt the same when you did it but this is a much bigger deal.

      You will be treated like a known spy by the international community. Relatives will lose their visas and you will never get one from anywhere unless it's to lure you off to foreign prison.

      If reality winner tells us anything, your identities will eventually be leaked out of the intelligence community. Not a list of names I'd want to be on.

    12. Re: Bad job twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Says the anonymous coward. Go report on yourself for posting on slashdot withiut including your real SSN.

    13. Re: Bad job twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Russian retard, the only AC claiming to be someone other than an AC is apk. Did you just not understand impersonsation vs privacy? What fucking terms did you agree to to post as AC?

      Now fuck off.

    14. Re: Bad job twitter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No SSN then,only bunch of f-words? How predictable.

      I bet you cannot pronounce this line about the fine distinction between anonymity and impersonation in a proper William Buckley accent. So lame for an American patriot you know.

    15. Re:Bad job twitter by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      Has anyone turned this into a searchable archive? At the moment you need to download and process x GB of gunk in order to check whether random tweet X was a troll or not, it'd be useful to have this in an online searchable archive.

  6. This is news... by mschaffer · · Score: 0

    ...about fake news.

    1. Re:This is news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      10 print "Our news is the best news\n"

      20 print "All other news is fake news from Nazi Russian bots!\n"

      30 print "Orange man bad ! \n"

      40 goto 10

    2. Re:This is news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're giving the NPC's too much credit. They get their instruction set directly from their handlers.

    3. Re:This is news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >It's predictable, I guess, but it's still hilarious that Russian trolls would be posting comments pretending to be generic American conservatives to a Slashdot post about Russian trolls pretending to be generic American conservatives.

      I literally only came into this thread to laugh at them.

    4. Re:This is news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up. This is the reality of internet discourse now. The reasonable people must deal with betas calling everyone NPC or cucks just because their toxic personalities cannot get them laid.

      State sponsored vouchers for prostitutes would eradicate right wingers forever. The evidence is absolutely overwhelming.

    5. Re: This is news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will you SJW feminists even allow for the existence of the prostitutes in the first place?

  7. There are no Chinese bots by mschaffer · · Score: 2

    Chinese bots would be too costly. In China it is probably less expensive to hire many people to pretend to be bots rather than have actual bots.

  8. And wasn't Iran back to friendpuppet status? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought Iran was the USA's best friend (read: puppet) in the region again, now that Russia is back in their "convenient enemy to take out and fearmonger with, whenever things don't go well at home" closet. Just like the last time, in the 60s, when they were the "stronghold against communism". Especially with Turkey falling our of favor.

  9. If you *believe*, the game is already lost. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is the path to schizophrenia/religion/superstition or however you want to call it.
    Just like the word "opinion".

    There are only two things:
    That which you experience. (In the sense of what scientists call "observation".)
    And that which you predict with a certain likeliness, given the patterns of commonality in those experiences.

    Feelings also are a form of prediction, by the way. But their problem is, that the parts of the brain that those are coming from, can't tell fantasy from reality. But they are the basis of all thinking, according to neuro-scientists. So if the logical thinking that they lead to, cannot keep them in line with outside experiences, you get "belief". And when the generated emotions are strong, you they are called triggers.

    Hence, I chose to only base my inner model of reality on that which I experience, and, while trusting the predictions that, in my experience, are useful, be aware that they are only assumptions too. I also accept that I am merely the way in which the experiences I received are put together, and therefore, my reality can only ever be the result of my what my brain's bias makes out of my experiences.

    Anything else, including your comment (and my comments, from your POV), TFS, TFA, and the entire described reality in the media, are not real.
    Reality is what happens, when I go outside. (Unless I look at a billboard or hear something being said.)

  10. It's also part of the basic toolset, to say *that* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's called "false flag" and "poisoning the well". And it's a technique mentioned in the NSA leaks. It's extremely old though, and definitely used by every single spying and propaganda agency, big political organization, big lobby group and big corporation.

    E.g. you take a valid criticism, and start posting it, posing as your enemy's side. But you join it with some utter bullshit, that is easy to attack, ridicule, and not take serious.
    Spam this enough, and whoever posts the valid criticism, will be ridiculed, even if he did not mention or even know the bullshit. They are now associated. The criticism is poisoned.
    On top of it, the bullshit, if nicely nuanced, can even be picked up by the "dumb mass" part of the group, and spread by them themselves. Or even just by people who didn't notice the flaws with it, before repeating it. So now the ridicule even becomes actually valid! At this point, the valid criticism is completely drowned.

    Sorry, I know having a nice and simple scapegoat gives the day structure, but you're not gonna get any useful or reliable bit of view out of this whatsoever. None of us were there. It's just wind blowing against wind, in a silly game that swarm heads play, to grow the biggest body of swarm drones (<- that would be us).

  11. Twitter Published Them Once by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this mean Twitter is retweeting these trolls?

  12. Precedence: Any Tweet is no longer private by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So now any private tweet can be republished by the company, even if that tweet was for a private group?

    1. Re: Precedence: Any Tweet is no longer private by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You gave them copyright and ownership of the content by posting it. It's in the agreement you made when opening an account.

      It's 2018. This is knowledge from 2008. How do people not know this yet?

  13. Twitter is Toxic Liberal Dumpster Fire by supercell · · Score: 0, Troll

    It is a complete liberal progressive, algorithmic , echo chamber that should be TLD to 127.0.0.1 It is harmful to the internet.

    1. Re:Twitter is Toxic Liberal Dumpster Fire by shplopt · · Score: 3, Informative

      Twitter is whatever you want to hate. Conservatives think it's liberal, radicals think it's centrist, liberals think it's alt-right, etc. And they're all, to some degree, correct. It's mirror in which you see your enemy. This is the nature of a feedback loop that runs on instantaneous emotionality. If one believes there's an existential threat to one's people, ideology, way of life, whatever, they'll spend time on the platform reinforcing that narrative. There's a bogeyman right outside all of our houses.

    2. Re:Twitter is Toxic Liberal Dumpster Fire by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

      While you do have a point about confirmation bias in perception, in this case there is no evidence to suggest that Twitter is impartial. The policy towards blue checkmark status as a form of social affirmation not identity, and the double standard in which bans are enforced has already been well established.

      Even participating in the recent NPC meme to mock leftists to make a point about the ideological conformity, highlighting the methods of indoctrination and conditioning, is sufficient to get an account banned. Twitter's response was to rewrite its written policy and then take extreme and immediate action for the benefit of this specific group. It doesn't leave much room for doubt.

  14. Re: AntiTermite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Real Jews that actually practice their faith won't vote Democrat

    I did a project similar to this for a Political Science class back in the 70's. Using whatever database it was to show that the more orthodox one's faith (not just Jews) the more likely they would vote Republican.

  15. MSM and Hillary's troll army tweets not included?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Ignoring the elephant in the room?

  16. The US twitter troll army by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    was so good at this that Twitter didn't include them in this dataset.

  17. Bots? Not likely. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Twitter doesn't have the computing power to give their NPCs the ability to identify bots.

    But really, the mass bannings of late of artisanal trolls while Jack "You wouldn't believe how wide I gaped my asshole!" Dorsey screams, "MUH BOTS" should tell you all you need to know here.

  18. Might be fake news about fake news aswell. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not like we could even remotely tell.

  19. What about the Souther Poverty Law Center? by ASCIIxTended · · Score: 0

    They are just a troll farm, just like the Russian and Iranian ones mentioned here. The only difference is they are funded by idiots in this country instead of the governments of others.

    --
    I do not belong to the church of the lowercase 'i'
    1. Re:What about the Souther Poverty Law Center? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The only difference is they are funded by idiots in this country instead of the governments of others.

      Well, that's a pretty big goddamn difference, isn't it?

      When an American or American organization tries to sway and election, it's called "campaigning". When a foreign government tries to do it, it's called espionage, treason, invasion.

      One is legal. The other can get you bombed, at least if we had a President instead of a punk like Trump who foreign dictators use like a woman.

      --
      You are welcome on my lawn.
    2. Re:What about the Souther Poverty Law Center? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you think the SPLC is a troll farm.......makes me wonder, what group are you a part of that they call a hate group? Judging by your pro-gun right wing stance and your age my guess...proud boy perhaps?

    3. Re:What about the Souther Poverty Law Center? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh come on now, everyone knows that everyone right of Lenin is a NAZI! /s

      There, saved you some time with your innuendo.

    4. Re:What about the Souther Poverty Law Center? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The former President of Mexico just endorsed a US political candidate and encouraged Mexicans in the US to vote for him.
      This is foreign interference in the US elections. Should the US now start bombing Mexico?

      China took out several full page ads in US newspapers recently, encouraging people to vote against Republicans.
      This is foreign interference in the US elections. Should the US now start bombing China?

    5. Re:What about the Souther Poverty Law Center? by Torvac · · Score: 0

      trolling your own people is fine (like fox news ok, rt is not)

    6. Re:What about the Souther Poverty Law Center? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Without getting in to the merits or otherwise of allowing organizations to campaign in elections, the fact that they are domestic means they are subject to domestic laws. If it was legal for foreign organizations to interfere then they would all just set up shell companies in the Caribbean and there would be no way to control them.

      I'm not an expert on the US but there are rules around stating who paid for ads and stuff like that, right? And in the UK there are strict spending limits.

      Also, WTF was that last sentence?

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    7. Re:What about the Souther Poverty Law Center? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Russians fund the SPLC?
      God bless 'em!

    8. Re:What about the Souther Poverty Law Center? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the lefties have no upper ground here. They are literally calling normal/non racist people Nazis, for things such as enforcing border control, stating there are 2 genders, etc

      Most people have now switched off from listening to that term, as "everyone I disagree with is a Nazi" has been the left mantra for the last 2 years.

    9. Re:What about the Souther Poverty Law Center? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Also, WTF was that last sentence?

      It's a literary reference.

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      You are welcome on my lawn.
    10. Re:What about the Souther Poverty Law Center? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are literally calling normal/non racist people Nazis, for things such as enforcing border control, stating there are 2 genders, etc

      Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, and Mitt Romney all believe in those things. So my question still stands.

      The reason you merely asserted the same shit I debunked without naming a single prominant liberal who has called any of those three a "Nazi", "Racist", or "White Supremacist" is because you can't: because liberals are not doing what you claim they're doing.

      Because, when it comes down to it, you'd rather put your fingers in your ears and make the problem worse than accept that your party might have a few bad apples in it.

      And that makes you complicit BTW.

      Also, FWIW, no liberal has ever called someone who said there are only two members of the social-construct "gender", we call them ignorant.

    11. Re: What about the Souther Poverty Law Center? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Obama fixed North Korea, beat Isis, renegotiate trade deals, lowered taxes bringing business back to the US, removed crippling regulations, forced the government to buy US goods, stopped sending Iran piles of cash...."

      That's a defective way of looking at things.

      There's no deal with rocketman, they are still in negotiations and last word was NK whining about how US is not negotiating in good faith, something Trump keeps demonstrating.

      Isis just captured like 1000 guys, some American. Wtf are you even referring to?

      Trump makes threats and insults his closest trade partners. Forces a deal to a deadline that his government dragged their feet and will not vote in this year. He whines and whines about false trade stats and fails to make improvements on what he said was getting ripped off on. He's pulled out of two trade deals. That's Not renegotiation.

      Please name two businesses that brought business back as a result of Trump's changes and not previously planned moves before Trump, and not companies that moved significantly more business outside US than brought back (Harley Davidson).

      Crippling regulations about the environment. That's putting your health and environment below businesses that are not profitable without government making special laws. This is cock holster evil.

      Trumps renegs on Iran deal. He's fucking up future deals. Trump is two-faced and his word is useless. Stop listening to the toxic shit he spews.

  20. Re: Brazil is electing a nazi because they're lazy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    We're not playing your definitions idiot. That's the problem: you're boxed in by what marx said and he's a 19th century drunken clown. You fools have no imagination. It's why you're losing.

  21. Re: Brazil is electing a nazi because they're lazy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hitler was also elected, doesn't mean that he wasn't racist.

  22. Scary definition of "Russian bot" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's basically anyone from Russia who shares an opinion on the internet. Remember that when you gasp at the numbers, and understand that Russia and Iran, or whoever they are accusing, has got _nothing_ on America when it comes to propaganda machinery.

    1. Re:Scary definition of "Russian bot" by Torvac · · Score: 1

      a) its only wrong if you get caught
      b) you only get "caught" if you dont let the others do their stuff in your country (like the netherlands a few weeks ago)

      out of ca. 195 nations only like 3 get it all the time ?

    2. Re: Scary definition of "Russian bot" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can not catch hasbaranicks can you?

  23. How Many... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    are from american bots?

    Publish that !

  24. Wow, Them Pesky Russian and Iranians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, Russia and Iran did it!

    Slashdot, please stop repeating stuff as fact. How about you understand and use words like 'Alleged','It's Twitter Conspiracy Theory that,' or 'Pot and Kettle', or 'Trust Twitter, they wouldn't lie'...........

    This rubbish deserves no place on Slashdot.

  25. Re:American Dataset? 1 TB?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I blame the US accent for introducing horrible spelling mistakes such as "terrabytes" or "meggabytes"

  26. Clinton is a traitor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So Clinton/DNC paying Steel in the UK to collect propaganda from Russia to influence the 2016 election is called treason.

    Good to know you think Hillary and the DNC are traitors.

  27. "Use like a woman"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sexist comment if I ever heard one. You sound just like, well, Trump.

  28. Found the Russian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:Found the Russian by qaz123 · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with whataboutism? whataboutism = calling out hypocrisy.

    2. Re:Found the Russian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's wrong with whataboutism? whataboutism = calling out hypocrisy.

      No, usually whataboutism is trying to distract from something you don't want to be discussed. For example, ISIS posts are completely irrelevant to the matter at hand, bot postings, but hey, perhaps people will start discussing that.

    3. Re:Found the Russian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The chain of hypocrisy is endless, and we're all bound to it. Anyone who wants hypocrisy solved first is actually demanding that nothing be solved, ever. Many of them are doing it deliberately. It's an easy checkmate on any argument that will be lost on the actual merits. For that reason, it's a favorite go-to of propagandists. If you find yourself pre-occupied with hypocrisy, you should consider re-evaluating your frame of mind and the media you consume.

      In most cases, hypocrisy is irrelevant. If the Chief of Police murders his wife, it doesn't mean we have to let all of the other murderers go. If systemic corruption fails to hold him to account, it still doesn't mean we should let all of the other murderers go.

      There seems to be a group of people who think hypocrisy is the worst thing a human being can do. It was stupid when the left used it to defend Bill Clinton, it's stupid when the right uses it to defend Trump, and it's stupid when Russia and China use it to defend authoritarian governance.

      Yes, America does shitty things. Those things should be addressed. But suggesting the America has a stench anywhere near as powerful as Russia's is laughable.

    4. Re:Found the Russian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, fellow Democrat, let us discuss bad orange Putin bots. There is nothing to fear from Muslim jihadis; it is extremely extremist to suggest that celebrating beheading journalists and women and children on Twitter is wrong and we are not bigots, like bad orange...

      No, you know what? This is too serious for shitposted memes. You're a stupid fuck, parroting your 101-level buzzword while completely failing at even elementary school logic.

  29. Re:MSM and Hillary's troll army tweets not include by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shut up Ivan we know you pretend to be SJWs too.

  30. Did BASIC interpreters need newlines in the USSR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did BASIC interpreters need newlines in the USSR?

  31. real slashdotters know how moderation system works by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They get mod points... well I know how they get mod points. All real slashdotters know how the moderation system works. You might also know except when slashdot was popular you were too busy using toilet paper and dildos for currency and committing genocide in chechnya.

    People may call you trolls but most Slashdotters started trolling when accessing the internet without a permit was still a high crime in your country. You stick out like a bent nail here and it makes it easy to spot you guys on the rest of the internet.

    Your boss should fire you for the exposure you're giving to your operation right now.

  32. Re:MSM and Hillary's troll army tweets not include by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ignoring the elephant in the room?

    Of course asking for any proof that these armies even exist is pointless. This is not an elephant, it is a Squirrel!

  33. Dating back to 2009 by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

    Wow, ten million spanning almost a decade, against the backdrop of the hundreds of millions of Twitter posts per day. Trump's own account has 55 million followers, by comparison.

    Oh and glad to see Iran lumped in there too; we definitely need to be singling them out more, because reasons.

    Well there's this analysis that graphed the data over time. There's no bell curve in the number of tweets during that time period leading up to the election. How curious.

    It's as if the excuse for heavy-handed political censorship is all that matters, not what actually happened.

  34. When will Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Release the Russian bot posts?