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YouTubers Will Enter Politics, And If They Do, They're Probably Going To Win (buzzfeednews.com)
A group of twentysomethings leveraged their huge YouTube audiences and actually won seats in Brazil's federal and state elections. What happens next is anyone's guess. Ryan Broderick, writing for BuzzFeed News: Kim Kataguiri is known in Brazil for a lot of things. He's been called a fascist. He's been called a fake news kingpin. Is he a YouTuber? He definitely uses YouTube. He's definitely a troll. A troll with a consistent message, though, he points out. Maybe he's Brazil's equivalent of Milo Yiannopoulos. His organization, Movimento Brasil Livre (MBL) -- the Free Brazil Movement -- is like the Brazilian Breitbart. Or maybe it's like the American tea party. Maybe it's both. Is it a news network? Kataguiri says it isn't. But it's not a political party, either. He says MBL is just a bunch of young people who love free market economics and memes. One thing is very clear: His YouTube channel, the memes, the fake news, and MBL's army of supporters have helped Kataguiri, 22, become the youngest person ever elected to Congress in Brazil. He's also trying to become Brazil's equivalent of speaker of the House.
[...] Kataguiri's political awakening is a textbook example of the way algorithms beget more algorithms. During his last year of high school, his teacher started a debate about welfare programs in Brazil. So Kataguiri started googling. He discovered Ron Paul and the Brazilian libertarian YouTuber Daniel Fraga. "Then I did a video to my teacher and my friends at school to talk about what I had found out," Kataguiri says. "There was one problem: I posted this video on YouTube. So it was public and it went viral." He says people kept asking for more videos, but he didn't know anything. So he went back to googling, and then made more videos about what he learned.
[...] Kataguiri's political awakening is a textbook example of the way algorithms beget more algorithms. During his last year of high school, his teacher started a debate about welfare programs in Brazil. So Kataguiri started googling. He discovered Ron Paul and the Brazilian libertarian YouTuber Daniel Fraga. "Then I did a video to my teacher and my friends at school to talk about what I had found out," Kataguiri says. "There was one problem: I posted this video on YouTube. So it was public and it went viral." He says people kept asking for more videos, but he didn't know anything. So he went back to googling, and then made more videos about what he learned.
Communism is the dictatorship of the proletariat.
Democracy becomes more and more the dictatorship of the proles.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
in the United States voter suppression makes this moot. For one thing young people don't like to register because it increases the odds you get jury duty. Polling places are kept away from college campus, student Ids are not valid voter Id (while gun permits are). The list goes on and on.
Young folks aren't just lazy and stupid. There's a concerted effort by the powers that be to keep them from voting.
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Isolated cases where You Tube may or may not have influenced elections does not mean that You Tubers in general have all that much power. I really doubt many people will vote XYZ just because someone on You Tube told them to.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
Now you know that if the politics were of a different slant, this would be celebrated.
So, when any politician or person running for office is banned by youtube, the company can be charged with Election Tampering ?
How about we start with a mandatory by law 2 hours off work paid on voting days when part or all of your shift intersects voting hours? We can follow up with making a reasonable number of polling places within reasonable reach of the local population accessible by public transit and prohibiting gerrymandering by appointing independent governing boards and straightforward districting. Even the requirement for an identical name on all government records is BS; is a clerical error on one of the 318 government documents on me get me out of paying taxes? Right now a large portion of voters are disenfranchised or about to be disenfranchised due to one of those reasons.
I know what a troll is, but the way people use it today makes no sense. It seems to have morphed into "someone who says something I disagree with, so I can't fathom how they could truly believe something different than me, so I am going to call them a troll"
Off course it comes from Buzzfeed, the left's Breitbart but just because someone has a platform you do not agree with or understand, does not make it bad, fake, non-existent.
Going through YouTube and similar platforms is just the modern equivalent of sending out flyers in your mailbox and placards in your yard.
Not sure what this guy's message is per se, but the left's lunatic identity politics is turning off young men and working people across the world. You can't just re-categorize an entire population of people with mental disorders as "freedom fighters" and hope that it works.
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If you don't like identity politics, you REALLY won't like the modern right with their constant appeals to the straight white male persecution complex/privilege loss anxiety.
And I think this is less likely the end of leftism than it is the violent, desperate death throes of the right as a mainstream political force. Leftism hasn't become any less common or made any sudden moves in the last few years. It's the right that has taken off its gloves and mask, taking the complacent left by surprise, even as it has become less common. Leftism appears to be losing right now because it's still marching in formation against an enemy that's suddenly started using ISIS-level guerilla tactics.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
As for removing polls from campus, google.
Not one of the search results says anteing like polling places are *moved* off campus, and ignores that most colleges across the U.S. HOST polling places for the reasons I specified. Hell, one of the links talks about free buses from one campus to a polling place... making it easier for students to vote, not harder.
I said this elsewhere in this thread but, well, nothing I say is going to convince you.
You are going to have to try reality based arguments instead of describing things you imagine are true but are not.
The best we can hope for is that you're in the minority and that as more folks become aware of Voter Suppression it will be ended.
Don't worry, all of the folks pushed away by imaginary voter suppression are made up for by imaginary dead and illegal votes.
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I used to think this. Recently, the way the Democratic party is running, I feel we are now in an era of Minority rule. Take any hot topic item, whether its abortion, gay marriage, forcing a baker to make a gay wedding cake, etc. Lets take the gay wedding cake one.. Now look at the demographics of the democratic party. While the LBGTQ(insert-more-letters-here) group is solidly democrats, so are the black southern baptist and blue dog democrats. Latinos are typically very devout catholics. These groups have a very different set of ideals when it comes to certain social issues. Now if this was a national vote where it was not party driven, you would probably see only 15% come out and say "Yes, a baker should be FORCED to make any cake he or she disagrees with, regardless of religious belief". But because this 'coalition' exists to force all its members to tow the party line, this 20% suddenly jumps to 47% of the population, and members are being represented against their beliefs. As if there was some shortage of gay bakers to make a cake. This is why we are now a country of minority rule. We keep making exception after exception for every minority group instead of demanding people be treated exactly the same. Same means Same, not "All Animals are created equal; some are more equal than others".
The same thing happens in the Republican party, but its not quite as fractured as the Democratic party. There is a large number of people that vote republican that identify as libertarian, so they don't agree on social issues nearly as much as they do on fiscal and economic ones.
Georgia is purging them from the rolls left and right while moving polling away from campuses. This isn't propaganda, it's fact
No, it's propaganda. The people who filled out the registration form incorrectly have 26 MONTHS to fix it, and they can vote in this upcoming election. Your "facts" are disingenuous at best and are therefore propaganda. Also, I never said anything about moving polls. I didn't comment on that so why are you bringing it up?
That means you don't get to plead ignorance.
I'm not.
having decided that some people shouldn't be allowed to vote because they disagree with you.
When the hell did I say any of this? You sure are good at putting words into people's mouths.
What I hate about folks like you is you.
Folks like me? You mean, folks who can read between the lines and critically think? Folks who aren't sheep?
you won't just come out and say "I don't like Democracy"
Because I DO like democracy.
You hide behind talking points to fool people.
What talking points are those? I simply called you out on your totally incorrect statement about the 53,000 people not being allowed to vote.
Democracy is good, but only when _everyone_ votes.
False. Democracy is good when INFORMED people vote. Not sheep who just look look for the little "R" or "D" behind the name. Sorry I triggered you by pointing out your B.S. statement. Get out of your echo chamber a little more often and maybe you'll toughen up a bit. And please, for the sake of all of us, get informed before voting.
now its been redefined to be anyone they dont like or agree with. Identity Politics.
Jesus. Just when I think you can't possibly say anything dumber than last time, you prove me wrong.
That sounds like Soviet propaganda or North Korean tripe. Those who do not care enough to want to vote should absolutely not vote. That's not voting. That's throwing darts at a dartboard. Why not just pick names out of a hat?
"Progressives" like to throw this bullshit around thinking that the default vote for the lazy shits that can't bother to show up 90% of the time are for "their" guy. FFS, If you can't show up for four years straight or figure out how to re-register when you finally get around to voting, maybe you should bone up on civics first. What's next? Are you going to bitch about how unfair and discriminatory it is to have to renew your driver's license or register your car every year?
If you do not pay taxes, like the ~44%-plus of Americans who pay no Federal income taxes, you have no right to vote on how those taxes are spent.
As far as the 'rich' not paying their 'fair share', the top10% of Americans in income pay two-thirds of Federal income taxes while the bottom 50% pays ~3%..
The USA is rapidly becoming a full-on Authoritarian Oligarchic Kleptocracy with merely the trappings of a mock-democracy, a democracy no more valid than those 'Democratic Republic of [insert_name]' dictatorships thanks to the Leftists and their 'useful idiots' in media and academia.
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Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
I don't agree with your analysis, I think weaponized identity politics was invented on the left. Concepts like intersectionality, white privilege and so on are all products of the left. Just look at how many things are now considered racist acts and how trivially easy it is to accuse someone of racism as part of political fight about any topic.
I think it is wishful thinking on your part to think that mainstream could somehow be in a death throes - after all masculinity, heterosexuality, and to a degree whiteness are still in plurality if not majority. Trying to intimidate and guilt such large population into submission will go only so far, especially if every concession is immediately followed up with more demands.
Leftism is hopefully losing because it became regressive, dogmatic, and frequently eats its own. I hope its demise means return of left that advocates worker's rights, welfare and economic equality, freedom of speech, and so on.
As far as the 'rich' not paying their 'fair share', the top10% of Americans in income pay two-thirds of Federal income taxes while the bottom 50% pays ~3%..
I hate this argument because of the wealth distribution in the US. Granted this is just one of the first easy to read sources I found but you'll notice that the top 10% hold 75% of the wealth while the bottom 50% hold 1.1% (according to this chart). Given that, one could argue that the bottom 50% pay too much and the top 10% pay too little.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/203961/wealth-distribution-for-the-us/
ask "Should the Baker be FORCED" then you'll get a lot of 'No's'.
ask "Should the Baker be allowed to refuse service" and you'll get a lot of 'No's'
The end result is the same. LGBTQs are denied access to a public resource (in this case a publicly available bake shop).
Me? I just replace the word "LGBTQ" with "White Male Christian" and if I would say "that shouldn't be allowed" then there's my answer. Once you can use religion to discriminate you can do damn near anything. It'll start with baking cakes and end with riots and apartheid.
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The right wing took over the Democratic party. It happened when Clinton moved the party right to win the presidency (he needed a ton of money and couldn't get the big money donations without selling us out). Take Al Franklin, a real lefty. He was shut down by Kamala Harris and other right wing women to pave the way for her presidential bid.
Speaking as a White guy, White Privilege is real. Us White Guys are painfully aware of it. We've had decades of preferential treatment in loans, school admissions, job interviews and the like. I'm not going to argue this point, it's a historic fact. Go google a bit and educate yourself.
But thing is, so the fuck what? Your angry at people for pointing out that you started on first base, but you should be mad at the billionaires who not only started on third but sent armed goons around to kick you back to home plate (and kick your teeth in while your at it).
I keep saying this, your enemy isn't the fat chick who runs your local women's studies dept. She's powerless unless you sign up for her class, and here's a trick, just take Chinese History. It meets the requirement for "multi-culture" and it's chalk full of manly wars. Your enemy is the guy who sits on a gold throne and tells you he's a man of the people.
You've been had buddy. I know that's gotta make you pissed to think it, but the sooner you face facts the sooner you can do something about it.
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