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Oxygen-Rich Liquid Water May Exist on Mars (scientificamerican.com)

Brines suffused with the life-giving gas could offer hope for past and even present microbes on the Red Planet, according to a new study. From a report: New research suggests our neighboring world could hide enough oxygen in briny liquid water near its surface to support microbial life, opening up a wealth of potentially habitable regions across the entire planet. Although the findings do not directly measure the oxygen content of brines known to exist on the Red Planet, they constitute an important step toward determining where life could exist there today. Aerobic respiration, which relies on oxygen, is a key component of present-day life on Earth. In this process, cells take in oxygen and break it down to produce energy to drive metabolism.

Mars's very low levels of atmospheric oxygen have led many scientists to dismiss the possibility of aerobic respiration there today, but the new research brings this possibility back into play. The study appears in the October 22 edition of Nature Geoscience. "Our work is calling for a complete revision for how we think about the potential for life on Mars, and the work oxygen can do, implying that if life ever existed on Mars it might have been breathing oxygen," says lead study author Vlada Stamenkovic, a researcher at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California. "We have the potential now to understand the current habitability." Although Mars is today a freeze-dried desert, it possesses abundant reserves of subsurface water ice, as well as some amount of liquid water in the form of brines. The brines' high salt content lowers the temperature at which they freeze, allowing them to remain liquid even on Mars's frigid surface.

In their new study, Stamenkovic and his colleagues coupled a model of how oxygen dissolves in brines with a model of the Martian climate. Their results revealed that pools of salty liquid at or just beneath the surface could capture the meager amounts of oxygen from the Red Planet's atmosphere, creating a reservoir that microbes might metabolically utilize. According to the research, Martian brines today could hold higher concentrations of oxygen than were present even on the early Earth -- which prior to about 2.4 billion years ago harbored only trace amounts of the gas in its air.

44 comments

  1. Breaking Down Oxygen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "cells take in oxygen and break it down to produce energy to drive metabolism"

    Wouldn't breaking down oxygen by a nuclear reaction?

    1. Re:Breaking Down Oxygen by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

      Fusion-powered Space Microbes! We're DOOMED!

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    2. Re: Breaking Down Oxygen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Large pools of imperial IPA MAY exist on mars according to climate change scientist's

    3. Re: Breaking Down Oxygen by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      Large pools of imperial IPA MAY exist on mars according to climate change scientist's

      Meh! Let's go to Europa, I prefer to drink Stout.

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  2. Or Not by mentil · · Score: 3, Informative

    Brines suffused with the life-giving gas could offer hope for past and even present microbes

    Tell it to the anaerobes

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  3. Yeah, but does... by nwaack · · Score: 1

    oxygen-rich liquid water exist on Uranus? (sorry I couldn't help myself)

    1. Re:Yeah, but does... by thomst · · Score: 1

      oxygen-rich liquid water exist IN Uranus? (sorry I couldn't help myself)

      Hey, nwaack! FTFY ...

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    2. Re: Yeah, but does... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone had to make that joke

    3. Re:Yeah, but does... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      slippery when wet

    4. Re:Yeah, but does... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oxygen-rich liquid water exist on Uranus? (sorry I couldn't help myself)

      you will have to investigate that on your own, it might be less smelly now after 1990, since I heard that it is no longer considered a gas giant

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_giant

        also... the water may no longer be liquid since uranus is now an ice giant... cold ass shit

  4. if there is O2 there is life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If there was no life, and o2, that o2 would soon split and join with Fe or whatever it finds more attractive than its own kind. That contradicts the assumption. Qed.

    1. Re:if there is O2 there is life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just remember, Rust Never Sleeps

    2. Re:if there is O2 there is life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there Fe (Iron) at Mars?

    3. Re: if there is O2 there is life by physburn · · Score: 2

      Iron oxides are why mars is red, the colouring is basicly rust.

    4. Re: if there is O2 there is life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. It gets its red color from ironoxide. There's surely some surplus iron that could satisfy some more O.

  5. But then again .... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    ... it might not.

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    1. Re:But then again .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... it might not.

      Elon Musk's FortNiteBR Gamer's Paradise, Free-for-Life Tesla Charging Station, and Tiki Bar may also exist on Mars.

      But it doesn't.

  6. What if we wake That Which Must Not Be Oxygenated? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Then all of our Space Force will be controlled by our Martian Overlords and we'll have to find allies from another solar system.

    Unless they're originally from Planet X, and then we're good.

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  7. Ok so... by BringsApples · · Score: 1

    Am I lost here? Where does it say that there's water on Mars? And if there's no water on Mars, or if we just don't know about it, then how is this meaningful research?

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    1. Re:Ok so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mars is a dead planet. It's small size rendered a solidified core which killed the dynamo needed to generate a magnetic field. Without a strong field, the solar wind eroded the atmosphere out into space over eons.

      It's dead Jim!

  8. Nobody tell Nestle about this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nobody tell Nestle about it or it'll be gone before you know it.

  9. Wikipedia is your friend, water on Mars by DanDD · · Score: 2

    It turns out there's quite a bit of water on Mars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    1. Re:Wikipedia is your friend, water on Mars by BringsApples · · Score: 0

      Really, a wikipedia article as evidence of water on Mars? No, as far as I know, water has not been discovered on Mars.

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    2. Re:Wikipedia is your friend, water on Mars by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Informative

      Really, a wikipedia article as evidence of water on Mars? No, as far as I know, water has not been discovered on Mars.

      While some caution about Wkipedia is always healthy ... have you bothered to notice (let alone follow, and read) any of the HUNDREDS of references provided on that page? No? I suppose that if you deliberately avoid knowing things, it gives "as far as I know" some strange sort of truthiness.

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    3. Re:Wikipedia is your friend, water on Mars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > While some caution about Wkipedia is always healthy ...

      Heck. Some caution about *any* (primary or secondary) source is always healthy. That said, besides of strong agreement with you, I'd be glad if every idiot out there applied half as stringent criteria to itself as Wikipedia does. World would be a better place.

      Sometimes I feel this "bah, Wikipedia, srsly?" meme, while initiated by this healthy critical sentiment you express above, has since long been hijacked by the anti-intellectual mob (aka "don't think for yourselves, let us do that for you").

  10. So if we go there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So if we go there, folks might get infected with something sketchy and bring it back. One way tickets I'm thinking.

  11. Elementary dear Watson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do you break down oxygen?

    1. Re:Elementary dear Watson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      O3 -> O2 + O
      O2 -> O + O

      Oxygen typically does not exist as individual atoms as it is diatomic or in the case or Ozone, triatomic. The other diatomic elements that can be 'broken down' into individual atoms are Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Florine, Chlorine, Iodine and Bromine.

  12. Breaking down oxygen to produce energy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    C'mon, Slashdot. You can do better than that.

  13. H2O ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Water, by its very definition, contains oxygen. All you need is a catalyst and a power supply. Such kits can be found in many high school science labs.

  14. Re:Elementary dear WatRddson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks!

  15. NASA proves water on Mars exists by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Funny
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  16. Peroxides are not breathing material by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Useful for sterilizing things yes, useful for supporting life, not so much.

    1. Re:Peroxides are not breathing material by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny you should mention that...https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/06/bacteria-can-eat-the-cleaning-products-nasa-uses-to-sterilize-its-spaceships/562016/

  17. Fixation with water and O2 in Alien Search by hviniciusg · · Score: 0

    I do not comprehend why we are so fixated with looking for water and o2 in the search of extraterrestrial life. as far as i know it is completly posible that life generates and is viable on other compounds.

    or are we looking for a place to migrate once we fuck this world?

    1. Re:Fixation with water and O2 in Alien Search by iggymanz · · Score: 2

      that's a complete guess if other compounds can be the backbone of life, some models have been proposed with zero examples in nature of course. since we see organic molecules everywhere in the universe it's not unreasonable to assume that life comes from and is built of those.

    2. Re:Fixation with water and O2 in Alien Search by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's a complete guess if other compounds can be the backbone of life

      It has just as much evidence behind it as the opposite.
      There is no proof either way and we don't even have a proper definition of what life is. (When people try they usually end up with some idea of self replicating molecules which supports parents point of non-organic life.)

      since we see organic molecules everywhere in the universe it's not unreasonable to assume that life comes from and is built of those.

      Huh? That sounds like a brain fart to me, care to elaborate?

      If organic molecules are everywhere and life isn't.. then..
      No, I can't make sense of what you are trying to say.

      Are you suggesting that there is life everywhere and since organic molecules also are everywhere they are correlated?

    3. Re:Fixation with water and O2 in Alien Search by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      We know for a fact life can arise from organic molecules.

      We have zero examples of any other kind of life.

      We see organic molecules everywhere, even detected in another galaxy.

      so, there IF there is life elsewhere, there is excellent reason to believe it will be based on the compounds that made life on earth.

      There is zero reason to believe the other hypothesized life made of other elements would be found.

  18. Oxygen does not matter by Gavagai80 · · Score: 2

    The first aerobic respiration evolved on Earth about 3 billion years ago, after over a billion years of anaerobic life. Aerobic respiration is a consequence of the accidental great oxygenation event in which the waste byproduct oxygen flooded Earth's atmosphere and nearly killed everything. It exists because it has to on this oxygen-polluted planet, not because it's important to life.

    It makes no sense to look for pockets of oxygen to find life on Mars. That may actually be where you're least likely to find life, because the oxygen may have stifled the anaerobic life.

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  19. Re:What if we wake That Which Must Not Be Oxygenat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You behave or K'Breel will have your gelsacs lanced.

  20. Fusion by XArtur0 · · Score: 0

    >cells take in oxygen and break it down to produce energy

    Fission cells are old and dangerous.
    Fusion produce energy by fussing oxygen to produce energy and heavier elements.

    Some will tell you that solar cells are the future, but I ain't no green leaf-tie.

  21. Mars: Where the water is rich in oxygen... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The sand is rich in silicon, and the carbon dioxide is rich in carbon.

  22. Did anyone see the arsia mons by splashbot · · Score: 1

    Dust cloud ? The nothing to see here article from Forbes? Is there water there, will Elon like the taste? I like that scene in Independence Day that talks about the $20,000 hammer and the $30,000 toilet seat.