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Coinbase Lets You Buy and Sell USDC Stablecoin (techcrunch.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from TechCrunch: A few weeks after Circle announced the launch of USD Coin (or USDC for short), Coinbase also announced that customers can now buy, sell, send and receive USDC on Coinbase. A USDC is a token that is worth exactly 1 USD. Its value is going to stay stable against USD -- hence the name stablecoin for this type of coins. Unlike traditional cryptocurrencies, you can be sure that the value of your USDC wallet isn't going to fluctuate like crazy. It opens up new possibilities and use cases.

While Coinbase lets you hold USD in your Coinbase account, this isn't safe. If somebody hacks into your account, you could end up with an empty wallet. That's why you should always try to control the keys of your wallet and transfer your coins to a safer wallet, such as a Ledger wallet or at least a software solution like MyEtherWallet. But if you want to short cryptocurrencies without sending your USD back to your bank account, you can now convert your tokens to USDC. This way, it'll be easier to buy cryptocurrencies again in the future. And maybe you can avoid paying taxes by hiding your tokens from taxation authorities
USDC is an ERC-20 token that leverages the Ethereum blockchain and ecosystem. In an effort to regulate USDC, Circle, Coinbase and others have created the CENTRE consortium to define the policies around stablecoins. "For instance, if you want to handle stablecoins on your exchange, you need to send regular audited reports that prove that you have as many USD sitting on a bank account as issued tokens," reports TechCrunch.

53 comments

  1. Plenty more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Idiots to plunder apparently

    1. Re: Plenty more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When it comes to suckers, it turns out computer nerds are at the top of the heap. Its hilarious how many, frankly morons, think being able to install linux makes them an expert in investing and economics.

  2. Or.... by Luthair · · Score: 3, Insightful

    you could just hold a dollar in a bank where the government guarantees your money...

    1. Re:Or.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed.
      I see stablecoins almost as a scam. The whole point of these is to get money into the company's accounts, which can then be used for investing for themselves without any form of protection you'd normally get from a bank account, share dealing account etc.

      The headline mentions an audited report proving that the company has as much USD as they have issued stablecoins. But looking into the CENTRE's whitepaper, they really have to be collateralized assets, which typically can be any form of liquid asset, such as equities, bonds etc.
      The smart stablecoin founder is a hedge fund managerwho will get money from his customers which he can then invest as he pleases and take all the gains without ever have to pay the gains back to his customer.
      If he's a bad hedge manager, it really doesn't matter since the money wasn't his in the first place.

    2. Re:Or.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Almost a scam? Dude, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona that you might be interested in. It's totally not a scam.

    3. Re:Or.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, shut the fuck up! They're not supposed to know they only have 42 years left!

    4. Re:Or.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A stable coin is useful because you can trade them directly for other crypto currency's on an exchanges without having to convert funds back to cash.

      For example:

      A user buy 1 BTC @ $6000.
      The price of BTC goes to $7000 so the user trades the 1 BTC for $7000 in stable coins.
      Price of BTC drops to $6000 so the user trades 6000 stable coins for 1 BTC.

      Now our user has 1 BTC and 1000 stable coins without every having to exchange into currency via a bank account.

    5. Re: Or.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL. "We can use our fake money to buy fake money". Genius! Do you accept Reblic Credits?

    6. Re: Or.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What happens when you know, you want to spend that $6000 to buy something?

      It has to be converted back to cash you say? Well what's the fucking point?

  3. Wrong subject.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    think it should read:

    Coinbase Lets You Buy and Sell USDC Shitcoin

  4. Finally by 110010001000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just transferred all my money into Stablecoin. I make $50,000 in IT in Silicon Valley so I have quite a bit to invest.

    1. Re: Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

  5. Tether was genius to keep the scam going by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Does this have the same clause as Tether that says you absolutely can buy these things with dollars, but no guarantee you can sel them back for dollars?

  6. Re:No USD Coin in FEDERAL PRISON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think you could do us all a favor and die of a stroke the next time you reach for your keyboard?

  7. Enough already by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 1

    We already have USDT which is ostensibly "stable" and backed by "real" money but which has never been formally audited , and now USDC? What is this BS doing on /.?

    1. Re: Enough already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Editors gotta get paid!

    2. Re: Enough already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Editors gotta get paid!

      Given the quality of the edits, I guess they're paid in Stablecoin?

    3. Re: Enough already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dogecoin actually

    4. Re:Enough already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My assumption is that they're expecting USDC to be more trustworthy than USDT, hence the auditing policy.

      Pretty much all discussion that I've seen regarding USDT revolves around it being artificially inflated and likely to crash sometime in the near future. If USDC maintains open books, it might become a reliable fit for USDT's current arbitrage use-case.

      That being said, I'll still only hold actual USD. No USDT or USDC for me.

    5. Re:Enough already by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2

      Somebody else realized that you could announce a digital token, claim it's worth $1 per, make some vague insinuations about hiding from taxes and buying shady stuff, and stupid people would give you actual dollars.

      Odd there haven't been more of these actually. I guess they've all been gambling they can make more than $1 per coin by letting the "value" float.

    6. Re:Enough already by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Uh huh. Let me tell you, inflation is a bitch! The most fucked up thing about our economy is that it's more profitable to be in debt than hold hard currency which devalues over time. It's why property is a good investment; it's like a boat that rises with the tide (inflation). Gold and other precious metals would be a close 2nd, except the banks have won that war. Paper gold (by design) killed that market!

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    7. Re: Enough already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tether was trading below $1 last I saw.

  8. Re:No USD Coin in FEDERAL PRISON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You are deluded and stupid. It's sad.

  9. That name is genius by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    It makes it sound 1000x more legit. Like it's backed by the government or something.

    That said, I can't think of any reason to use this besides money laundering. If I have a dollar I'll spend a dollar. I don't need crypto to do that.

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    1. Re:That name is genius by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Well, it's potential competition for PayPal...

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    2. Re:That name is genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bitcoin is not the way to money launder...

    3. Re:That name is genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just wait for competitors like FDIC(*) DogeCoin.

      (*) Freendley Doge Invesmen Consulting

    4. Re:That name is genius by Jeremi · · Score: 2

      I'll be introducing my StableGeniusCoin currency next month. It uses advanced cryptographic blockchain technology that guarantees that if you lose your investment, the Mexicans will pay for it.

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    5. Re:That name is genius by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      It makes it sound 1000x more legit. Like it's backed by the government or something.

      Pfft. Screw that. I'm starting legitcoin. That will make me infinitely more legit than all those other pretenders.

  10. Leveraging ethereum ecosystem ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lol. On bitshares they could have cheaper and better performing token. Oh wait, it would have a builtin exchange already! Coinbase doesn't WANT that feature !

  11. Such innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They just invented an interest-free money market fund. All the downsides of a cryptocurrency combined with all the downsides of holding USD, it's a sure winner!

    1. Re:Such innovation by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      That's exactly why cryptocurrency nutters will jump on this.

  12. "if someone hacks into your account"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... you're in a bad movie.

    If coinbase announces "hackers did it", they're criminally negligent or criminally incompetent, or criminally both.

    If you claim "hackers did it", then you're just derping around. Which is what most journos do most of the time these days anyway.

  13. This is even stupider than cryptocurrency by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    Why would you even bother with this? It's nonsensical. If you want to hide your money from the government then just bury it in a coffee can in your backyard or somesuch shit. Or get a safety deposit box at a bank and stash your cash in there. Seriously I don't get this shit.

    1. Re:This is even stupider than cryptocurrency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      laundering money.

    2. Re:This is even stupider than cryptocurrency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's just another centralization and metoo scam.
      An attempted worldwide corner of the fake stablecoin market with their own stablecoins.
      Trying to make coin traders think they have safety in USDC when they don't.
      And it's totally centralized, controlled, monitored, tracked, databased, reported, and censorable upon whim of both government and corporation, both of which you have zero control over. Thus you're locked out of your own money.

      If you're in it for the long game, you don't need stablecoin, you'll be spending real cryptocurrency directly instead.
      If you're just a gaytrader, you'll pump the exchanges and networks full of fees, and lose in the end.

      If you don't hold the keys, it's not your money.

      As far as hiding,
      you're not hiding shit with Bitcoin BTC or any other coin,
      except for the lesser Monero XMR and other statistical mix methods,
      and moreso the truly cryptographic privacy of the Z family of coins,
      the ZEC, BTCP, ZCL, ZEN, and so on.

    3. Re:This is even stupider than cryptocurrency by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      Coffee cans rust. For stable hiding money from the govenment I would suggest getting some mason jars and using stainless steel lids with the silicon gaskets. If worried that metal detectors will find it then get some PVC pipe, cap one end with a fixed cap and the other with a screw on cap. Put in some of those air activated hand warmers to scavenge air and other off gassings and bury that.

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  14. Re:No USD Coin in FEDERAL PRISON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We should be kind to Bathhouse Barry, there. It's understandable that he can only gather crowds of twenty, who have to be arrayed behind him to make it look like anybody but media show up to his nonsensical diatribes.

  15. Let's make a real coin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've got a few thousand bucks in gems on-hand. Let's make a real blockchain-exchange based upon real value instead of bullshit, like the old Ambercoin which failed to make its mines materialize in any sort of profitable way.

    I can keep mining gems all day with nearly no monetary repercussions except transportation costs, because I know where to look thanks to ASTER/LANDSAT-7/8.

    Are you in? If so, then let us talk.

    I don't take fucktards that won't join and dig for themselves.

    techkitsune@gmail.com

  16. $50,000 in Silicon Valley? by fredrated · · Score: 1

    That isn't even poverty level.

    1. Re:$50,000 in Silicon Valley? by Jeremi · · Score: 1

      Making $50,000 at a job in Silicon Valley isn't too shabby, provided you are telecommuting from Bangalore.

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    2. Re:$50,000 in Silicon Valley? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mean you'd be silly not to assume a yearly salary, but GP didn't actually specify... ;)

    3. Re:$50,000 in Silicon Valley? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoosh.

  17. "Stablecoin"?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "A USDC is a token that is worth exactly 1 USD. Its value is going to stay stable against USD -- hence the name stablecoin for this type of coins."

    There was a news (last week?) about one of "stablecoin"s that its value had dropped under 1$ (and was keep dropping)!!!

    I am pretty sure lots of people claimed its value would always stay at 1$!!!

  18. Is it April 1 already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's funny, The Onion.

  19. I'd be scared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    First of all, there are great ways to park USD value called banks.

    Second, there is no way the founder of this builds any income considering the value is fixed. So how does he make money? Then he goes and mentions about how to be careful with it so you don't get hacked. The fact that he addresses getting hacked so quickly makes me already suspicious of what his plans are.

    1. Re: I'd be scared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the founder gets $1 for each user, that would allow him to invest that dollar in something proper. Like S&P500 and make about 8-10pct return on it. That is, for every million of usdc, he can make $80-100k for himself. Easy money I would say.

  20. Progress by GeekWithAKnife · · Score: 1


    It is easy ti dismiss the importance of this bit of information. Just look at some of the comments about scams and what not.

    A lot of money still sits in Tether but tether's issue is that it is not publicly available for audit which has eroded trust.

    Why would you use this instead of money in the bank? -Many reasons but I'll name some;

    1. many tax schemes require you to pay tax *every time* you materialize an asset so anytime it goes back to USD/fiat -depending on where you.

    2. It is a more trustworthy solution as it is supposedly audited in a transparent way.

    3. It is a convenient way to send money between exchanges where monetary policy between intermediaries may differ depending on where the exchange is.

    4. It is a method to remove centralized control/single point of failure in tether/Bitfinex

    5. It is likely to be cheaper, safer (due to price volatility) and faster than transferring through most crypto tokens/coins

    6. It is a step towards better regulation which means more criteria of institutional investors are met increasing the odds some may invest/hedge in crypto.


    A regulated "stable coin" is a big deal.

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  22. Post completly misses the point. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stable coins are not about safely storing funds - they are a useful trading tool, allowing users to trade between real currency's (Via other stable coins pegged to...well anything.) or a cryptocurrency (Which by nature exist as a token or coin) without ever having to interface with another institution.

    Welcome to the new crypto economy. Its about tokenizing everything and then trading with said tokens, so you can trade Dollars for Pounds or Pakistani Chickens for Irish goats or any of these for Bitcoin and back again.

    basically like making cryptographic hashes out of anything irl (Coins or tokens.) and trading them on a marketplace.

  23. Wait wait wait by cshark · · Score: 1

    Isn't there already as USDC coin, that already attempted this, and failed miserably in 2014?
    Do we know if it's the same guys?

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