Tim Berners-Lee on the Huge Sociotechnical Design Challenge (techcrunch.com)

In a speech discussing ethics and the Internet, the inventor of the World Wide Web, Sir Tim Berners-Lee, has tasked the technology industry and its coder army with paying continuous attention to the world their software is consuming as they go about connecting humanity through technology. From a report: Coding must mean consciously grappling with ethical choices in addition to architecting systems that respect core human rights like privacy, he suggested. "Ethics, like technology, is design," he told delegates at the 40th International Conference of Data Protection and Privacy Commissioners (ICDPPC) which is taking place in Brussels this week. "As we're designing the system, we're designing society. Ethical rules that we choose to put in that design [impact the society]... Nothing is self evident. Everything has to be put out there as something that we think we will be a good idea as a component of our society." If your tech philosophy is the equivalent of 'move fast and break things' it's a failure of both imagination and innovation to not also keep rethinking policies and terms of service -- "to a certain extent from scratch" -- to account for fresh social impacts, he argued in the speech.

He pointed to how Wikipedia had to rapidly adapt its policies after putting online the power for anyone to edit its encyclopedia, noting: "They introduced a whole lot of bureaucracy around it but that actually makes it work, and it ended up be coming very functional." He described today's digital platforms as "sociotechnical systems" -- meaning "it's not just about the technology when you click on the link it is about the motivation someone has to make such a great thing because then they are read and the excitement they get just knowing that other people are reading the things that they have written."

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some people code to make money

[Anonymous Coward]

Most software programmers I know are coding to make money. Making humankind better is not on there agenda.

Re:some people code to make money

[iggymanz]

pointless anyway, humankind will not be "made better" by any amount or type of software.

Re:some people code to make money

[bobbied]

Most software programmers I know are coding to make money. Making humankind better is not on there agenda.

The implication being that making money is contrary to helping mankind better?

I don't think these two are logically related. You can make money and be out to make humankind better. You can make money by cheating the next guy out of his, making human kind less well off. Further, You can make money and not care. The two concepts are not related.

Now if you are arguing that a lot of folks don't give a flip about others in today's self absorbed world, I'm going to say welcome to reality. History is rife with examples of such bad behavior.

Re:some people code to make money

[Anonymous Coward]

It can sure be made worse by software though.

Re:some people code to make money

[Anonymous Coward]

Some people design and build houses for money. They have responsibilities towards the clients and the society in general, inscribed into law and regulations, to create a better environment and promote goals of the society as it sees fit at the time of design and construction.

Re:some people code to make money

[Anonymous Coward]

Sounds like you are about 17 years old and only interested in semantics.

Re:some people code to make money

[Anonymous Coward]

I think that you should look into the business ethics model that most business people are taught in school.
It comes from the Chicago School of economics, with Milton Friedman as the main proponent.

It says that their highest ethical responsibility is to 'Enhance shareholder value"
Of course, to an MBA that is measured in dollars.

So, the end result is that business people will pursue money first, and will break laws, and work AGAINST the needs of the community, as long as it makes them more money.

You can see the efforts to lower legal penalties for misbehavior and propagandize people to accept this sort of behavior as normal, as a continuation of these ideas

Re:some people code to make money

[Tailhook]

Home builders build houses for profit. Full stop.

They comply with laws and regulations. Compliance, however, is not their motivation. Relying on a home builder to adopt these other matters as their motivation is folly. That's why we have building codes and inspectors to enforce them. If we could rely on home builders to promulgate all our supposedly good goals we wouldn't maintain codes or employ inspectors and instead use the money to bump city manager bonuses.

Relying on the vaunted wisdom of Tim Berners-Lee and the good graces of giant corporations — populated by their "armies" of imported coders, managers and executives most of whom have zero clue who Tim Berners-Lee is or why they should listen to him, having gotten off the boat a decade or more after TBL last mattered — is likewise folly.

Re:some people code to make money

[AmiMoJo]

The software that runs MRI scanners makes humankind better. The software that lets us communicate securely or encrypt our personal data makes humankind better. The software that allows us to understand our own DNA makes humankind better. The software that took us to the moon made humankind better.

Re:some people code to make money

[cowpie]

Disagree. People can make the world better or worse. They might choose to use software or not to achieve their goals, but in any case, software is just a tool used by people.

You can write software for a company that has the best of intentions, but stuff happens. Perhaps down the road some other people end up in charge of that intellectual property and do things that are bad for humanity with it. Your software didn't suddenly go from good to bad, but it was just a tool used first by well-intentioned people and later my ill-intentioned people.

People make moral choices. Software does not.

Re:some people code to make money

[bobbied]

It says that their highest ethical responsibility is to 'Enhance shareholder value"

Shareholder value is NOT enhanced by unethical or immoral behavior by a company or it's employees. Both Civil and Criminal penalties are expensive. Civil damages can cost many times more than the ill gotten gains and Criminal fines can seriously hurt a companies profitability.

Do some get away with such things? For awhile perhaps... Emron was such a company, but eventually they got caught and now where are they? Their share holder value is ZERO now and many of their principles have served time.

Re:some people code to make money

[Anonymous Coward]

Enron committed stock fraud and was sued by the SEC and the corporate officers found guilty of felonies.

Certainly a severe case

However, we find many companies treading across the line of legality when it comes to how they treat their customers (how many unexplained fees do you find on your monthly bills, or charges from third parties which the company refuses to remediate or remove?

The old line WAS that criminal punishment, fines, or public opinion would turn against the companies and they would lose more money than they gained.

I say that corporations, via rulings like citizens united, are able to get laws re-written to allow them to profit at the cost of the societies that they operate in.

Just look at all the people who shill for the fossil fuel industry by denying climate change at the very moment in time we should shun oil for solar and nuclear power.

Even when global habitability for the human race is at risk, pursuit of profits rule

Re:some people code to make money

[Anonymous Coward]

More people is bad for the planet. The world went billions of years without technology and will do so long after we make ourselves extinct because of technology.

Re:some people code to make money

[Hognoxious]

Shareholder value is NOT enhanced by unethical or immoral behavior by a company or it's[sic] employees.

It is if they don't get caught.

Heck, it sometimes is if they *do* get caught. Naughty naughty, take a slap to wrist!

Re:some people code to make money

[iggymanz]

No, not talking about curing a disease.

Talking about mankind and improving it.

we've had more war and atrocities from the century that brought us MRI than any other. Humanity is getting worse.

Re:some people code to make money

[Anonymous Coward]

>Civil damages can cost more than the gains
No shit dumbass, that's exactly what your parent said, "as long as it makes them more money."

Notice that ethics has no presence in the equation. Id est GP's point.

Wikipedia super bad example

[SuperKendall]

Wikipedia is in control of a cabal of zealots that you cannot get even a single word change in any page of significance without proving you "belong"

Think of any movie you have every seen where small groups have been isolated from civilization for thousands of years, that is what little fiefdoms of controlling Wikipedia editors are like at this point.

Re:Wikipedia super bad example

[bobbied]

You act as if that's a bad thing. I mean, how do you think the Linux Kernel has made it this far? Talk about a cabal of zealots... Yet good things have come from that.

Re:Wikipedia super bad example

[UnknownSoldier]

Agreed.

Their bullshit "No Trivia" section just proves how clueless / out-of/touch-of-reality they are.

One mans's trivia is another man's data.

**I** decide what information has value -- not you. I personally **like** finding out who has cameos, etc. in movies.

Re: Wikipedia super bad example

[Anonymous Coward]

Apples and oranges bunk.

Re:Wikipedia super bad example

[TuringTest]

That's what Wikia is for.

Re:Wikipedia super bad example

[TuringTest]

Aaaaand that's the reason it works (sort of). Compare it to h2g2, the collaborative encyclopedia that predated it, to see what you get when anything goes.

Re:Wikipedia super bad example

[painandgreed]

You act as if that's a bad thing. I mean, how do you think the Linux Kernel has made it this far? Talk about a cabal of zealots... Yet good things have come from that.

It's a matter of presentation. Wikipedia presents itself as being open to anybody to edit and used that as leverage to goad people into getting to give them money as a matter of sympathy. However, it seems that plenty of people who try to contribute as expected by the way they are told to with valuable information, find they cannot because of administration issues. AFAIK, Linux does not present itself as letting anybody edit the base code and telling them it's ok to do so. Likewise, Wikipedia doesn't present itself as a a walled garden that will vet any submissions.

Re:Wikipedia super bad example

[Anonymous Coward]

Wikipedia is in control of a cabal of zealots that you cannot get even a single word change in any page of significance without proving you "belong"

Think of any movie you have every seen where small groups have been isolated from civilization for thousands of years, that is what little fiefdoms of controlling Wikipedia editors are like at this point.

You would be perfectly happy to defend the status quo if said "cabal" happened to agree with your particular point of view.

You know you would.

Missing the forest for the trees

[apoc.famine]

Coding must mean consciously grappling with ethical choices ...He pointed to how Wikipedia had to rapidly adapt its policies after putting online the power for anyone to edit its encyclopedia, noting: "They introduced a whole lot of bureaucracy around it but that actually makes it work, and it ended up be coming very functional."

Coding is nothing like editing Wikipedia.

You can't be "consciously grappling with ethical choices" while you're implementing a sort function. Maybe that sort function is going to determine which sick child gets priority treatment, or maybe that sort function will figure out which sick child costs too much, and another routine will try to get rid of the kid. If a coder is going too far down the rabbit hole trying to figure out how every last hunk of code will be used, they're no longer just a coder.

If the summary had quotes from TBL about software engineering, architecture, or design it would be a lot more insightful. But a whole lot of code is making function foo handle variable X correctly. There's nothing ethical or unethical in that. It just is.

Code is a tool. And like any tool, it can be used for good or ill. Placing the focus there rather than on the larger design and decision systems seems really dumb to me. Of course, the article might go into these things, but ain't nobody got time for that.

Re:Missing the forest for the trees

[Immerman]

>But a whole lot of code is making function foo handle variable X correctly. There's nothing ethical or unethical in that. It just is.

Of course there's something ethical about that - you're building part of a machine, and as such you carry partial responsibility for the existence and use of that machine. If the machine is intended to be used for the detriment of humanity, don't help build it. If it's *already* being used for the detriment of humanity, don't help maintain or upgrade it. Or at least own up to the moral responsibility for your actions.

Now, if you're writing a public library, and some of the users of that library use it as part of something evil, that's one thing. But so far as I know, the majority of modern programming is still done in-house. Which means that your library was probably built in-house, in service to the "evil master plan", and you can't duck moral responsibility by saying that that part *you* did wasn't actually evil when taken in isolation.

Re:Missing the forest for the trees

[UnknownSoldier]

Agree 100% !

To paraphrase / quote a famous cliche:

You were too busy trying to figure out How that you never stopped to ask Why.

Science by definition is amoral. Most of programming is too since you are just implementing a Mathematical (*) function. There is no ethics involved.

(*) For sake of argument (and simplicity) programming is a higher level order of calculus then Mathematics since it is a combination of Logic, Pattern Recognition, Mathematics, Linguistics, Art and a few other disciplines I'm probably missing.

Re:Missing the forest for the trees

[Anonymous Coward]

(*) For sake of argument (and simplicity) programming is a higher level order of calculus then Mathematics since it is a combination of Logic, Pattern Recognition, Mathematics, Linguistics, Art and a few other disciplines I'm probably missing.

Ethics. You are missing ethics.

The discipline of why is ethics. The science of ought and should are ethics.

Re:Missing the forest for the trees

[apoc.famine]

If the machine is intended to be used for the detriment of humanity, don't help build it.

So coders are now required to be psychics, eh?

There's no real way to tell most of the time if the code you're working on is going to be used for good or ill in the future. If you're the one engineering the whole system, sure, you know. But if you're just a code monkey? No way to tell.

Even if you knew that it was going to be used to some detriment, the question then would be what percent of the time it will be used for ill, and what percent of the time it will be used for good. And then where you draw that personal line? Saying "I'll only work on this if I have a guarantee that it's 100% pure angel magic" is utterly unrealistic.

You seem to think the world is black and white, and everyone has full knowledge of everything. That's really not the case.

Re:Missing the forest for the trees

[Kjella]

Science by definition is amoral. Most of programming is too since you are just implementing a Mathematical (*) function. There is no ethics involved.

I work in a healthcare, you should tell the ethics board that because they seem to think using patient data and experimenting on people has moral implications. I'm sure Dr. Mengele will appreciate having his name cleared too. The distinction you're trying to make is between the generic and the specific. The engineer who designed the gas valve that was used in Auschwitz probably just made a valve, but other engineers designed the whole camp and knew what it was for. Same with making a sort function, some other programmer will write "foreach <Prisoner p> in <Camp> sort by strength descending, if workcamp.size() < 100 then p.toWorkcamp() else p.toGasChamber()". I think very many of us work enough with business objects or know the overall objectives of the project/company that we can't really claim ignorance about what it's for. If not, well ignorance is bliss.

Re:Missing the forest for the trees

[fish_in_the_c]

So, no one should write TCP IP code because it is used to distribute child porn?
And we should all work on solving trajectory optimization so we can effectively defend our country without putting solders in harms way?

Few tools are black and white in their use.

Re:Missing the forest for the trees

[UnknownSoldier]

Scientist !== Science

Engineer !== Science

A good engineer ALSO has morals. A bad one doesn't.

/sarcasm Gee, if only there was a way to lookup the definition of Science: ...

the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

Or, https://www.merriam-webster.co...

1. the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding
2. a) department of systematized knowledge as an object of study
2. b) something (such as a sport or technique) that may be studied or learned like systematized knowledge
3. a) knowledge or a system of knowledge covering general truths or the operation of general laws especially as obtained and tested through scientific method
3. b) such knowledge or such a system of knowledge concerned with the physical world and its phenomena
4. a system or method reconciling practical ends with scientific laws

Or, https://sciencecouncil.org/abo...

Science is the pursuit and application of knowledge and understanding of the natural and social world following a systematic methodology based on evidence

Scientific methodology includes the following:

* Objective observation: Measurement and data (possibly although not necessarily using mathematics as a tool)
* Evidence
* Experiment and/or observation as benchmarks for testing hypotheses
* Induction: reasoning to establish general rules or conclusions drawn from facts or examples
* Repetition
* Critical analysis
* Verification and testing: critical exposure to scrutiny, peer review and assessment

Morals are mentioned WHERE again ???

Hint: They AREN'T.

Re:Missing the forest for the trees

[AmiMoJo]

You can't be "consciously grappling with ethical choices" while you're implementing a sort function.

I was once asked to add webcam functionality to some software. I had to refuse on the grounds that it was an unwarranted invasion of privacy, and my boss accepted my argument.

A few months later I noticed that the people using the equipment had put electrical tape over the webcam anyway.

Re:Missing the forest for the trees

[ortholattice]

For sake of argument (and simplicity) programming is a higher level order of calculus then Mathematics since it is a combination of Logic, Pattern Recognition, Mathematics, Linguistics, Art and a few other disciplines I'm probably missing.

I'm not quite sure I understand what you are saying here, but computer science is a small subset of mathematics as commonly understood, which is the collection of theorems derivable from the axioms of (typically) ZFC set theory. (See wikip. under "ZFC set theory", the website metamath.org, and many other places.) In particular, of those axioms you probably don't need Infinity, Foundation, Replacement, or Choice for (most of) computer science. Logic is a prerequisite for ZFC set theory and thus mathematics, so it isn't "higher level order". And if you're going to throw in Art, you might as well throw in Ethics.

Re:Missing the forest for the trees

[Immerman]

Very little work is creating new systems - most of it is maintenance, in which case you can probably already find out a great deal about how it's already being used.

You can also observe your employer to see how ethically they use the tools already at their disposal. Yours will after all be used no more ethically than those.

It's getting a bit more indirect, but you can also look at how they value the well-being of their employees - after all it's probably more than they value that of the general populace.

There's also a question of... call it corruptibility. If you help build something extremely powerful, and that power can be exploited for evil - it eventually will be. Power reliably attracts the worst sort of people, and tempts even best. So if you're building such a powerful tool you must constantly ask yourself: how can this be used for evil? And how much good is it realistically likely to offer? And how does that stack up against how much evil will it inevitably enable?

Every choice in life is a weighing of the benefits against the prices that will be paid - and you never really have the whole picture. That doesn't mean you throw away the oars oars and disclaim all responsibility for where you're end up. You make the best choices you can in light of the information available, and you live with the consequences. There may not be easy answers, but you should at least ask the questions, and decided whether you honestly believe the inevitable blood on your hands will be worth it.

Re: Missing the forest for the trees

[Anonymous Coward]

If all you're doing is implementing sort functions, you're not a coder.

Re:Missing the forest for the trees

[Anonymous Coward]

Great, go hit the suits upstairs with that.

A steelworker has a very easy time questioning his ethics. "Is this slag alive? Does it suffer? No? I shall heat it without pondering any moral doubt!"

Your demands belong on those who buy and use it. At worst, the suits in the steelmill, but not the grunt supplying raw metal.

It occurs to me that this is very similar to other daisychains of causality. Toyota supplying terrorists with trucks. Walmart failed to stop someone from buying a machete.

At some point (and it can be admittedly hard to determine exactly where) the actors are too many steps removed from the event.

Facerec AI will import libraries that have authors who are obviously immaterial, perhaps dead.

It will also have people who work directly on upper (ie near user) levels, aware of their work's impact and possibly even influencing it.

It will also have people who work on lower levels (ie data load balancing), completely unaware and beyond whiny villifying.

It will also be used for various purposes, some less benign than others.

Even a specific organization X using software Y for purposes Z will have mixed nuances of societal harm/good. What if I tell you to broadly categorize airport security (in general, *not* the TSA) with a sweeping umbrella label? How about all airports globally?

Little-endian fqdns

[Anonymous Coward]

Isn't this the asshole who's responsible for little-endian FQDNs?

Opinion discarded.

It's such a laugh that he was offered a knighthood and accepted it. If there was ever any doubt as to how silly that designation is, it can safely be laid to rest.

Re: Moscow Donald's Terrorist Tard Army

[Anonymous Coward]

Knock it off. Your posts are harmful.

Based on the targets, the most likely scenario would appear to be an act of right wing terrorism.

Americans are far too polarized and the rhetoric is far too divisive. That only promotes anger and encourages this type of behavior. You could have condemned this act of apparent terrorism without blaming all Trump supporters. Rhetoric like yours actually has the potential to incite violence and make the situation worse.

You should be ashamed of yourself for posting that.

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[Anonymous Coward]

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Re: What I put out to help society

[Anonymous Coward]

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Re: What I put out to help society

[Anonymous Coward]

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Re: What I put out to help society

[Anonymous Coward]

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Re: What I put out to help society

[Anonymous Coward]

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You refuse to digitally sign your work, as well, providing a bogus excuse as to why you won't do so.

Re: What I put out to help society

[Anonymous Coward]

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Tim-Berners lee is out of touch...

[blahplusplus]

... the war was won as soon as stupid people got internet. The last 20 years from around 1999 on, I watched as software and games went from something we owned to something corporations controlled. The average person is downright fucking retard level stupid about their puchasing, this is why we have mmo's/f2p/online drm, diablo 3 with single player lag, microtransactions, lootboxes in overwatch even though ALL the content in overwatch already exists in files on your hard drive just inaccessable. A fucking lootbox interface on a game where all the content is already on your drive. We live in a full blown idiocracy here. Windows 10 is the the finishing touch.

To think that Microsoft, game and tech companies got all they wanted in the 90's simply by waiting for the stupid masses to get internet and the masses being idiots would just give it all away. The last 20 years for me have been surreal as a child of the 80's and 90's. I didn't know the future of PC gaming in 1998 would end up in total software theft and removal of games from gamers because the average gamer is such a fucking moron.

Mr Lee is living in some fantasy land inside his head, all the big content companies are moving in to control and sheer the sheep and the sheep are all too happy to bend over and give up their rights and freedoms.

Re:Tim-Berners lee is out of touch...

[Raenex]

Slashdot needs a -1, "Get off my lawn" moderation.

Re:Tim-Berners lee is out of touch...

[Anonymous Coward]

Except the number one OS (linux, it all it's variations) is very much not in the single controlled hands of a corporation.

Sure, we can say, hey the masses won, let's stop fighting and join the sheep or go live on a deserted island or you can try to create some change.
You can start by doing small things (like getting your friends to move to Signal instead of Whatsapp) and try to educate them.

But of course you can always roll over and keep on complaining.

Re:Tim-Berners lee is out of touch...

[blahplusplus]

Except the number one OS (linux, it all it's variations) is very much not in the single controlled hands of a corporation.

Sure, we can say, hey the masses won, let's stop fighting and join the sheep or go live on a deserted island or you can try to create some change.
You can start by doing small things (like getting your friends to move to Signal instead of Whatsapp) and try to educate them.

But of course you can always roll over and keep on complaining.

Ahh yes the linux idealists, you're out of your mind if you think linux can replace windows. Windows as an OS is basically a utility because everyone and their mother develops for it. I'm sure all the cool kids will stop playing gacha mobile games on android/smartphones, stop playing mmo's and "live service based" games like Assassins creed just to jump to linux.

Sorry to tell ya but linux ever wants to break out it's minority it's going to have to software everyone watns to use for it being made for it by billion dollar companies.

Re:Tim-Berners lee is out of touch...

[Anonymous Coward]

Slashdot needs a -1, "Get off my lawn" moderation.

Slashdot needs a -1, "I'm a fucking corporate oligarchic cocksucker" option.

Re:Tim-Berners lee is out of touch...

[Anonymous Coward]

Desktop Linux at this point is for poor people who cant afford good hardware and software. They had their chance to take advantage and become mainstream when Vista came out and then again with Windows 8. Didn't happen.

It's popular in the form Android, but Android is nothing more than a data collection tool, given away freely by one of the world's biggest advertising and data collection companies. Kind of like a pedo giving free candy to lure them into a van.

On the server Linux isn't bad. It makes a good hypervisor and the lampp stack, while being quite insecure is inexpensive to run, even on less powerful devices. Server based Linux is where it's at.

Re:Tim-Berners lee is out of touch...

[TeknoHog]

Ahh yes the linux idealists, you're out of your mind if you think linux can replace windows. Windows as an OS is basically a utility because everyone and their mother develops for it. I'm sure all the cool kids will stop playing gacha mobile games on android/smartphones, stop playing mmo's and "live service based" games like Assassins creed just to jump to linux.

Sorry to tell ya but linux ever wants to break out it's minority it's going to have to software everyone watns to use for it being made for it by billion dollar companies.

News flash: Android is just another Linux distro. Maybe not GNU/Linux but a Linux nevertheless.

Re:Tim-Berners lee is out of touch...

[blahplusplus]

News flash: Android is just another Linux distro. Maybe not GNU/Linux but a Linux nevertheless.

Man you really are a fucking moron, Android is linux no doubt about it, but it's a fucking closed platform. That releases software you don't own or control.

Re:Tim-Berners lee is out of touch...

[Anonymous Coward]

While I get your sentiment, Overwatch is a RIDICULOUSLY poor example to illustrate your point. I don't know how far back you want to go, but pretty much any game except the likes of Galaxian that are just incrementally harder, was there at any point in any of them a level you couldn't get past? If so, then 'you're a downright fucking retard ... ALL the content for the game already existed in files on your floppy disk / CD Rom, just inaccessible'. Having content gated by good play has been standard for computer games since basically day one. What Overwatch gates is purely cosmetic items that have zero effect on gameplay, and meanwhile gives away any new characters / maps / game modes etc. for free to anyone that owns the game.

I only really bring this up because Overwatch is in my opinion, along with Team Fortress 2, one of the INCREDIBLY few examples of 'loot boxes' done right. The game would be just the same without them, but a little less exciting.

Even CHINA copied me (vs. DNS down/redirected)

[Anonymous Coward]

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Re: Even CHINA copied me (vs. DNS down/redirected)

[Anonymous Coward]

China did not copy your work. That falsehood has been debunked repeatedly. Stop repeating that lie.

Re: Even CHINA copied me (vs. DNS down/redirected)

[Anonymous Coward]

A "World-Class" person who is 54 would be employed. You are not.

A "World-Class" person would not have to purchase his house from his parents for $1. You did.

A "World-Class" person would not be obsessed with winning arguments on websites like Slashdot. You are obsessed.

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Security pros etc. QUOTED on hosts

[Anonymous Coward]

"classic Windows hosts trick to block the Coinhive or Crypto-Loot domains" - https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/a-new-player-joins-coinhive-on-the-browser-cryptojacking-scene/ - BLEEPING COMPUTER

ZD NET http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-use-a-hosts-file-to-improve-your-internet-experience/ "Hosts files really shine by letting you block ads, spyware sites, malware sites, & tracking sites"

SANS ("A related approach to the DNS issue is to create a hosts file on each system that sends requests for spyware to some place else" hosts by myself & RAMU right @ START of "malware explosion" mid 2005 on) https://isc.sans.edu/forums/di...

Aryeh Goretsky/ESET/NOD32: hosts = good security https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=7442373&cid=49747129/

Oliver Day (SYMANTEC/SECURITYFOCUS) http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/491/

Spybot S&D uses hosts.

APK

P.S.=> Malwarebytes' hpHosts hosts & RECOMMENDS my program forum.hosts-file.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4290

Hosts efficacy recently vs. threats

[Anonymous Coward]

"It's working: Neville... it's working!" See subject & results from the past month https://it.slashdot.org/commen... https://it.slashdot.org/commen... & https://it.slashdot.org/commen... + https://it.slashdot.org/commen... + https://it.slashdot.org/commen... https://it.slashdot.org/commen... that's only recently while I've been on Linux (few months now only) & 100's of times vs. MANY other botnets/malwares etc. in the past circa 2006-early 2018 while I was on Windows: CONCRETE VISIBLE UNDENIABLE REALITY (see those links as proof).

P.S.=> ... & that's ONLY what /. reported on (there are FAR more)... apk

Registered /.ers reviews #1/5

[Anonymous Coward]

Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising and malvertising is quite valid - by JazzLad April 20, 2016

his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

that APK guy, I use his host file by rogoshen1 Tuesday March 03, 2015

I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017

* For the Win32/64 model...

APK

P.S.=> Linux model's faster/more efficient/better MERGE feature too - More coming... apk

Re: Moscow Donald's Terrorist Tard Army

[Anonymous Coward]

Let me get this straight, you don't like the rhetoric coming from the right. So you respond by... imitating the right.

The rhetoric from Trump and some others on the right is awful. Some on the left have started to respond in kind with their own violent rhetoric. It's not helpful from either side.

You have no moral high ground.

By the way, unlike you, I do not want to accuse everyone on the right or everyone on the left of condoning divisive rhetoric and violence.

Don't be a hypocrite. If you don't like Trump's behavior, then you certainly shouldn't imitate it.

Registered /.ers reviews #2/5

[Anonymous Coward]

Apk has the answer for that - really... kill automatic updates by adding a hosts file entry setting updates.steam.com or whatever to 127.0.0.1. You have to find the right hostname for each software you want to block updates on by raymorris (2726007) on Friday July 06, 2018

APK your posts on this and the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error and/or bad advice by BlueStrat (756137) on Wednesday June 21, 2017

I support APK's stand on the hosts file and can't see why it's not used more than it is. My hosts file is 144247 lines long (4,332 Kb) it & a firewall serves me very well - by Trax3001BBS (2368736)

ABP is insufficient as a solid hosts file does everything APK reminds us about fast turtle September 17 2013

You need APK's hosts file - by Teun (17872) on Wednesday August 06, 2014

* For the Win32/64 model...

APK

P.S.=> Linux model's faster/more efficient + BETTER merge feature - More coming... apk

Registered /.ers reviews #3/5

[Anonymous Coward]

Actually, APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context. Of course, your phone has to be rooted, which isn't the case with Firefox + adblock." - by chihowa on Saturday May 16, 2015

APK solution STILL relevant Thud457 June 11 2015

In a footnote, I would like to note that I find your hosts file admirable - by vel-ex-tech (4337079) on Tuesday November 24, 2015

APK's monolithic hosts file is looking pretty good at the moment - by Culture20 on Thursday November 17

you're right about hosts files - by drinkypoo (153816) on Thursday May 26

APK, I know people give you a lot of shit regarding hosts, but please don't ever stop - by nasredin (958927) on Friday June 12, 2015 @03:34PM

* For the Win32/64 model...

APK

P.S.=> Linux model's faster/more efficient + BETTER merge feature - More coming... apk

Registered /.ers reviews #4/5

[Anonymous Coward]

APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works. - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015

get around to 'installing' a hosts file list, not sure which one, likely the one from someonewhocares.org. If it works as well as what I used for a while about ten years ago, I'll be happy. And grateful to APK for the lesson and the reminder. - by kermidge (2221646) on Wednesday March 27

I actually went and downloaded a 16k line hosts file and started using that after seeing that post, you know just for trying it out. some sites load up faster. - by gl4ss (559668) on Thursday November 17

dammit MS, you proved APK right about something by lgw

* For the Win32/64 model...

APK

P.S.=> Linux model's faster/more efficient + BETTER merge feature - More coming... apk

Registered /.ers reviews #5/5

[Anonymous Coward]

APK is still right a hosts file really does work. It even blocked a some of the video ads that were inserted into a stream OrangeTide February 10 2016

the Host File Engine performs exactly as promised - by mmell (832646) on Thursday February 16, 2017

I do use APK's host file on all my systems at home by OrangeTide December 01 2017

I've never tried to belittle (APK's work), I've flat out said it's good - by BronsCon (927697) on Thursday February 11, 2016 @06:48PM (#51491263)

(Toss on 100,000++ users worldwide too!)

* For the Win32/64 model...

APK

P.S.=> Linux model's faster/more efficient + BETTER merge feature... apk

Re: Registered /.ers reviews #5/5

[Anonymous Coward]

BronsCon retracted his positive review of your software and request you stop using his name to promote your work. Continuing to post your quote of him as if he still recommends your work is dishonest. If you had any integrity at all, you would stop quoting BronsCon to promote your software.

Re: Moscow Donald's Terrorist Tard Army

[Anonymous Coward]

Accurately documenting and attributing the republican party's violent acts to their perpetrators is not an incitement of violence similar to what Trump and the republican party engage in every day.

Republicans think they can incite violence and that when their bombs are sent to Democrats and the media we will all just meekly pretend we didn't notice the incitements to violence that lead to these attacks?

I'm sorry - but I'm not going to ignore the violent attacks perpetrated by republican traitors. It doesn't matter what we do, republicans incite violence when you do something as meek as provide healthcare to sick Americans. So I'm not going to ignore the bloodstained campaign of republican terrorism and treason.

That doesn't mean I'm inciting violence, I'm just refusing to ignore and keep quite about the escalating violence perpetrated by Trump supporters with the encouragement of the entire republican party.

Re: Moscow Donald's Terrorist Tard Army

[Anonymous Coward]

Telling all Republicans to leave the country is inciteful and goes beyond simply documenting the behavior you're condemning.

Shame on you.

Re: Moscow Donald's Terrorist Tard Army

[Anonymous Coward]

I never said that all Republican should leave America, just the traitors and terrorists

In other words you are lying about what I said, much like Donald Trump lies about CNN, and the democrats who were targeted by today's bombs.

Re: Moscow Donald's Terrorist Tard Army

[Anonymous Coward]

False. You claimed that escalating violence was perpetrated by Trump supporters, then said they have the encouragement of the entire Republican party. You blamed the "Republican party" and that could be interpreted to include not only elected officials but also registered Republicans and perhaps those who voted for Trump and other Republicans.

Since you blame the entire Republican party, let me pose a simple challenge. Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski are two very moderate Republican senators. Show me examples of where they encouraged violence. Ben Sasse is a far right Republican senator, but one who tends to be thoughtful and careful with his words. Show me an example where Sasse encouraged violence.

If you're going to blame the entire Republican party, you're at least blaming every elected official who is a Republican. If you're being honest, it shouldn't be hard for you to find the examples I asked for.

By the way, I'm the same AC who's been criticizing you throughout this thread. I'm a Democrat supporter and won't be voting for any Republicans in the midterms. I find your posts offensive.

Re: Moscow Donald's Terrorist Tard Army

[Anonymous Coward]

All of those supposedly nonviolent republicans mostly sit silent as Trump encourages violence against the media and democrats who received bombs today.

Even though you demand that I be silent about the republican party's terrorist attacks against the people Trump incites violence against - that is wrong.

Republicans who are silent about Trump's incitements to violence are accessories to today's bombings. That includes all the so-called moderates who let the republican party decay into the violent terrorist organization that it has become.

Too much trust

[Anonymous Coward]

The World Wide Web, as well as the United States presidency, was designed with too much trust for the participants. WWW placed too much trust in users, companies, and governments. The US presidency was designed with too much trust in the president to support the country instead of just himself. But both the designers of the WWW and the US constitution could not have foreseen the kinds of problems we are having now.

+1

[Anonymous Coward]

Stupid people are ruining the internet. Tech enthusiasts are now a tiny minority, and their ideals are being absolutely buried.

The internet is dying in a very particular way, being fossilizing by corporate control, and the worst thing is this process is completely cyclical.
Every single tech revolution has been led by an avant-garde of idealists, only to be DESTROYED by retards. People were equally idealistic about telephone (the Victorian internet), radio, and TV, thinking they would revolutionize society, but society dragged them down every single time.
Soon most people won't even know the internet is "supposed" to be a certain way.

Your contributions to society are a net negative

[Anonymous Coward]

Your contributions to society are a net negative.

1) You disrupt Slashdot discussions by posting off-topic spam such as this thread.

2) When criticized, you respond with extreme anger and make personal attacks. You are a bully.

3) You vastly overstate the ability of your software to provide security. This leads to users having misplaced confidence that their systems are secure, which likely results in them being more vulnerable than they might otherwise be.

4) You have a history of bigotry and racism, especially directed at Jews. You have been responsible for flooding many recent articles with numerous off-topic spam comments that are anti-semitic in nature. Bigoted rhetoric such as yours causes divisiveness and incites violence.

While your software may provide some security, the sum of your overall contributions is quite negative.

Shame on you for spamming this article, especially after you've been told repeatedly to stop posting spam.

Re: Moscow Donald's Terrorist Tard Army

[Anonymous Coward]

I demand that you eat out my ass.

Each = douchebags that attacked me 1st

[Anonymous Coward]

Each = douchebags that attacked me 1st & LOST badly. E.G. Coren22 https://slashdot.org/comments.... (HUGE FUCKUP due to his ADD addled brain's DELUSIONS lying saying "APK says AD can run minus DNS" - BULLSHIT I did, proof's in that link from a forums a DECADE before, lol)

amicusNYCL https://slashdot.org/comments.... (BIGMOUTH tried "speaking for everyone" & HAD TO EAT HIS WORDS (lol))

Ol Olsoc https://it.slashdot.org/commen... (FOOL tried saying I didn't write my code & HE HAD TO EAT HIS WORDS too)

Zontar The Mindless (this LOON is a total NUTJOB sending me postcards/threats) https://slashdot.org/comments....

Ash-Fox https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... (PROVING I HAD SUCCESSFUL COMMERCIAL CODE I sold to a CERTIFIED Microsoft Partner & HE HAD SHIT by comparison (LMAO - tried the "NDA" bullshit, lol)).

APK

P.S.=> ESPECIALLY vs. those IMPERSONATING me OR those STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous (like you)... apk

LOL! Bullshit & dates PROVE it... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: My original version of my hosts program was out in 2001 & I resurrected it in 2012 for Windows (32/64-bit) & Linux this year 64-bit - a long, Long, LONG TIME before China even THOUGHT of using hosts as I do!

* ... & I'm THE ONLY hosts program that does gTLD/tld validity checks AND what CHINA COPIED in hardcodes (that resolve faster LOCALLY in RAM via hosts cached far FASTER vs. remote DNS & NO DNS TRACKING requestlogs OR DNS down OR kaminsky redirect poisoning security issue poisoned).

APK

P.S.=> Make me LMAO some more because you're going to have a BIG problem TRYING to say that China did it BEFORE me, lol... apk

Re: LOL! Bullshit & dates PROVE it... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Your failure to offer any evidence beyond the dates is far from convincing. You fail to provide any shred of evidence thar China is even aware of your work, let alone that they decided to copy it.

Again, your allegation has been thoroughly debunked repeatedly.

Shame on you for continuing to lie.

You TRYING to say BronsCon didn't say this?

[Anonymous Coward]

"I've never tried to belittle (APK's work), I've flat out said it's good" - by BronsCon (927697) on Thursday February 11, 2016 @06:48PM (#51491263)

* See subject & GOOD LUCK that, lol...

(YOU FAIL)

APK

P.S.=> IF/WHEN someone says MY WORK = GOOD? You BET I'll quote it WHENEVER I FEEL LIKE IT (it's fact - the 1 THING that DESTROYS troll WHIMPS like you, everytime & make ME look GOOD (yourselves by comparison like the WEEZIL by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posting JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" you are))... apk

SIMPLE TEST THAT SHUTS YOU UP...apk

[Anonymous Coward]

0.0.0.0 test1.com:53
0.0.0.0 test2.com:53
0.0.0.0 jowie.com
0.0.0.0 jealous.com
0.0.0.0 jowie.com
0.0.0.0 test3.com
0.0.0.0 test3.com
0.0.0.0 borlnd.com
0.0.0.0 tester.com

* RUN THAT DATASET THRU MY PROGRAM & WHAT RESULTS COME OUT THAT HAVE A "PORT FILTER" ATTACHED?

NONE!

Only borlnd.com, tester.com, test3.com, jealous.com & jowie.com (last 2 are for YOU, lol) REMAIN (no filters on them)

MY PROGRAM EVEN PREVENTS THAT MISTAKE!

APK

P.S.=> THIS PROVES MY PROGRAM'S OUTPUT DOES NOT ALLOW "PORT FILTERING" ENTRIES IN HOSTS as I said DESPITE you IMPERSONATING ME & LYING saying hosts do (already PROVEN YOU DO THAT c6gunner https://linux.slashdot.org/com... as you lie saying I have a MacOS model (I don't YET) OR that hosts cure Spectre/Meltdown & they don't but you LIE impersonating ME saying they do!)... apk

APK lies yet again

[Anonymous Coward]

You just lied again.

I specifically said that BronsCon retracted his endorsement of your software.

That means he posted the quoted text, then said his opinion had changed based on new evidence, and that he no longer stood by his original endorsement.

Instead of addressing what I actually said, you lied.

You know I'm right that BronsCon retracted his endorsement and asked you to stop using that quote to promote your software. That's why you're reduced to lying.

I'm SELF-employed vs. wageslave

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm SELF-employed vs. wageslave & have done so SUCCESSFULLY for 10++ yrs. now. Have you, wageslave? No.

My Dad made good on a PROMISE both parents made me to pay for my education IF I got good grades (I did & good @ sports too - room & board for a SOON to be NCAA Champion in their division in Lacrosse (now legendary status) & 1st STRING starter as a freshman too no less). Then, my brother (field-grade U.S. Military Commander (Lt. Col iirc) & Bronze Star recipient) came along & INITIALLY wasn't doing well in elementary school (so they saved for HIM instead BUT he ended up getting a FULL-RIDE to Syracuse U. (good grades)). SO, they made good on that 'debt' to me GIVING me a GREAT DEAL on the home I worked on for decades (+ I put another 35k or so into it after).

OBSESSED? LMAO - you're the ONES STALKING ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE no balls ANONYMOUS starting crap w/ me here now (undeniable proof) & I always WIN vs. "your kind" (lowest of the LOW cowardly WORMS).

APK

P.S.=> Jews do themselves in everywhere they GO in history (nation to nation banished) & from what I read on them? They are the BIGGEST RACISTS around & call us "GOYIM ANIMALS" fit to be raped, robbed & killed by them... apk

Re: Moscow Donald's Terrorist Tard Army

[Anonymous Coward]

Right, just like democrat supporters sit on their hands while their leaders incite riots with their rhetoric, refuse to act civilly and generally encourage their supporters to create confrontations to harass republican leaders going about their private lives. Democrats encourage yelling at opponents at restaurants while they eat with their families, chasing them though airports, cornering them yelling "Shame! Shame!" and accusing them of unspeakable atrocities just for the PR value. Such uncivil behavior is stupid and pointless AND dangerous.

So, if you want to claim the moral high ground here, you have some serious climbing to do over there on the left side of the isle. Plus, I might suggest you STOP DIGGING that hole you are in with all the trying to go low that Holder talked about, the moral high ground is the other way.

YOU RAN FROM MY QUESTION: Answer it

[Anonymous Coward]

YOU RAN FROM MY QUESTION: Answer it https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... weezil, lol!

* He said that & there IS NO CHANGING IT!

(He had a "personal beef" w/ ME later - doesn't affect the QUALITY & EFFICACY of MY program in ANY way, period)

I'm not here to win a "popularity contest" (karma BULLSHIT easily rigged by sockpuppet accounts karma farming you all do) - I'm here to WIN (so everyone does) & I am - always.

(... & you KNOW it - hence your UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous WEEZIL stalking me)

APK

P.S.=> FACT: There's also ~34++ MORE /. users who LIKE/USE/PRAISE my program - do they do that for YOU? HELL no, lol - too bad you JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" (lol) - you did THAT to yourself being the LAZY undereducated UNSKILLED "ne'er-do-well" YOU ARE, lmao... apk

Re: YOU RAN FROM MY QUESTION: Answer it

[Anonymous Coward]

Still more lies from you.

I said that BronsCon did, indeed, say the quoted text. Then he retracted it.

You lied about what I said.

You are dishonest for continuing to quote BronsCon as if he still endorses your software when you know otherwise.

Why must you engage in intellectual dishonesty? Why must you continue lying?

Re: Moscow Donald's Terrorist Tard Army

[Anonymous Coward]

false equivalency

Nobody has ever lost their life by being told that they are a hypocrite, if that is the case, then a guy called Jesus Christ would be a terrorist (Matthew 6:5)

Pipe bombs, on the other hand, have the ability to blind, cripple and kill

Are all republicans apologist bs'ers like you

please keep your SJW BS to your own backyard

[Anonymous Coward]

on my lawn I'm engineering software for whatever the heck I fancy and for whatever the purpose (and mostly to earn my living). I may occasionally think about the larger ramification on society, but really that's an after thought for once I have the luxury to sit down and enjoy my wealth.

So Mr Lee, thanks for HTML and all, and if you do come up with some great new tech let us know. Until then, I'm not interested.

Thanks for proving you IMPERSONATE me

[Anonymous Coward]

You prove you impersonate me lying "I am God' gift" & on Meltdown/Spectre & I'm there under https://hardware.slashdot.org/... that IMPERSONATION of myself you LOSERS try "discredit me" with PUTTING YOU AWAY here (proving impersonations of myself BEYOND that from c6gunner (trapped undeniably doing so)) https://hardware.slashdot.org/...

* RoTfLmAo - THANKS for letting me FURTHER EXPOSE YOU!

(YOU just do NOT "get it" do you? I catch MOST of those impersonations of myself & OUTRIGHT deny + DISPROVE them, easily).

APK

P.S.=> You "WEEZILThals" (lol) MAKE ME LMAO - whenever "your kind" CANNOT DEFEAT an opponent w/ FACT? You start doing ILLOGICAL off-topic AD-HOMINEM attacks (since my points on hosts are UNASSAILABLE/INVIOLATE) & YOU ALWAYS FAIL THAT TOO (all thru this exchange now & I dust each of you w/ facts AND YOUR POOR CHARACTERS as you STALK ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts, losing vs. me)... apk

Found the nazi

[Anonymous Coward]

Nazis get lynched.

Re:Found the nazi

[Anonymous Coward]

Nazis get lynched.

Yes, you very well may.

Thanks for pointing that out for everyone.

Thanks for admitting BronsCon said

[Anonymous Coward]

Thanks for admitting BronsCon said MY WORK IS GOOD. That 'all said & aside" tell us please won't you:

On what valid grounds did he retract that for? That it 'suddenly isn't good'?? LOL - let's hear/see YOUR proof.

* I know he got "AnGrY" w/ me but that doesn't STOP ME from USING what he said!

(CLUE: Again, there's ~34++ OTHER registered /.ers saying MY WORK = GOOD too & that they use/like/praise my work - NOT your "notware", lol...)

APK

P.S.=> Nothing "dishonest" about ME quoting someone's words BUT your b.s. is OBVIOUSLY just YOU, BronsCon, NOW SHITTING YOURSELF out of "personal butthurt" - lol (too bad - can't take back my work's good)!

AGAIN: I'm not here to win some "highschool popularity contest" - I'm here to WIN & I AM clearly - how can I say that?

I POST AS MYSELF & you? LOL - You, by comparison, are REDUCED to STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous LOSERISHNESS & LYING about me too - everyone SEES it stupid, lol... apk

Re: Thanks for admitting BronsCon said

[Anonymous Coward]

BronsCon retracted his endorsement on the grounds that your erratic behavior and the grudges you hold against a lot of people (as evidenced by another one of your posts in this thread) suggests a significantly higher than normal probability that you might use your software for malicious purposes. Unless every version of your software has its code audited and that code compiles to the same binaries that you distribute, your software cannot be trusted. He indicated that while your software might be clean now, there is no guarantee that it will remain as such in the future. In summary, he considers you too unstable to be trusted.

There's a term for your continued quoting of BronsCon. It's called a lie of omission. You admit that he retracted his endorsement, as you've done in this thread, yet only do so when confronted about it. You've also misrepresented his reasons for retracting the endorsement, which I have correctly described in this post.

LMAO: That's NOT my work's QUALITY!

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject & INVALID grounds vs. my work being GOOD (which BronsCon said it is, you admit it) "BronsCon retracted his endorsement on the grounds that your erratic behavior" - by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @06:09PM (#57532161) I WAS RIGHT - pure PERSONAL butthurt ANGST on his part as I said & was RIGHT on as always - invalidates NOTHING of you ADMITTING he says MY WORK IS GOOD!

QUOTING the film "The LAWNMOWER MAN" on 'erratic': "Like all brainy type, Angelo is erratic" - Leader of "The SHOP" etc. & I certainly am not as LOW as YOU are STALKING ME & LYING by your UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS WEEZIL posts, lol!

"I have a propensity to use my code for MALICIOUS PURPOSES?" - Bwaahahaha!

PROOF SHOWS OPPOSITE!

LMAO - quit even TRYING to play "SiDeWaLk-ShRiNk of /." on that vs. ME STOPPING MALWARE WORKING https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

My code WAS AUDITED IN EVERY VERSION by Steven Burn of Malwarebytes who both HOSTS & RECOMMENDS it

forum.hosts-file.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4290

APK

P.S.=> My code also SELF-CHECKS ITSELF MATHEMATICALLY & is LITERALLY Virus-Proof because of it (superior to code signing that has been ABUSED & STOLEN before) & was UPMODDED as +2 "Interesting" in CODING FOR DEFCON here on /. as far back as 2005 http://it.slashdot.org/comment... ... apk

Re: LMAO: That's NOT my work's QUALITY!

[Anonymous Coward]

APK, you totalled yourself by continuing to misrepresent BronsCon's old quote as his current views of your software.

You are not entitled to anyone's endorsements of your software. People are free to retract their endorsements at any time, and you have no right to insist they do otherwise.

Pretending that BronsCon's old quote represents his current opinion of your work is a lie of omission. You are lying to anyone who reads your post.

Who did it 1st: Me or CHINA? Answer that

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject & answer it (prove it FOR me, lol): You fail to offer disproving my ware that does what they do FIRST before China: LONG before! You lose...

* ... & you KNOW it!

APK

P.S.=> Loser... apk

Re:Who did it 1st: Me or CHINA? Answer that

[Anonymous Coward]

APK that isn't called proof that is called wild ass speculation from a retard. You have nothing so you have to make shit up. The idea of yours they supposedly copied is something that is trivial simplistic and obvious. Since you are the retard making extraordinary claims you had better have real actual evidence to back them up, you don't, other wise you are just a retard yelling at the clouds.

Gotta do it: Your "notware" can be 'trusted'

[Anonymous Coward]

Your "notware" can be 'trusted' to NOT do anything @ all let alone be useful as MINE is others like & use by the 100's of 1,000's worldwide!

Your NON-EXISTENT "hotairware" (lol) can ALSO be counted on to have ZERO BUGS as it has ZERO LINES lol!

MINE?

Every version (same code even in Linux (90% except API stuff) each time EXCEPT for filters which DO need some update) & he trusts me (long relationship by now) & offered to even do latest too!

He KNOWS I'm out to do good (not lies & worm behavior like you by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous "ne'er-do-well"-ism, lol) & TRUSTS me (after 6++ yrs. he does).

* HE WON'T HOST ANYONE'S WARE MINUS SEEING ITS SOURCE 1st!

APK

P.S.=> I don't HAVE to defeat you OR even try to win: You SELF-DEFEAT yourself FOR me, lol... apk

Says UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous stalker of me

[Anonymous Coward]

Says the UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous stalker of myself: Don't like what I post? DON'T READ IT (you can set yourself to not see ac).

BULLY? You little PUNK - IF I had you in FRONT of me, THEN you'd see BULLY (because judging by HOW YOU ARE weezil? You're a 98b. whimp).

What do I overstate? You already were ANNIHILATED for that bs https://hardware.slashdot.org/... by concrete VERIFIABLE & UNDENIABLE facts (not just opinion, fact).

Bigotry & RACISM??

Ask JEWS about that one, lol (or should I find the post about THEIR racism calling us "goy cattle" to be ROBBED, RAPED & KILLED). I only state FACT (you can't overcome).

APK

P.S.=> Don't EVER think a little WEEZILthal like YOU can "order me" pussy - you're NOT in my league (of excellence)... apk

Yet you STALK me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous

[Anonymous Coward]

Yet you STALK me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous (so 'brave' (not)). Don't like what I write (because you can't get the best of it)?

* DON'T READ IT!

(YOUR KIND is the MOST detested WORLDWIDE - online & OFF)

APK

P.S.=> It's THAT simple... apk

Re: Yet you STALK me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous

[Anonymous Coward]

You are projecting that you stalk users like Coren22, amicusNYCL, Ash-Fox, c6gunner, Ol Olsoc, Zontar The Mindless, and many others with your unidentifiable anonymous posts.

TBL's solution:

[Snufu]

More DRM.

Re: Moscow Donald's Terrorist Tard Army

[Anonymous Coward]

These retards only act that way because they are paid by Vladimir Putin. Everyone has to understand that Putin wants to kill America, and will kill them personally if given the slightest chance. Vladimir Putin is a proven murderer, and doesn't care about wedding cakes or anything else used to incite rabid dogs.

APK has been proven to be a lying retard

[Anonymous Coward]

God you are a total fuckign retard. We've been over this several times now. You are the only one who brought your shitty toy program into the discussion about hosts doing port filtering as you attempt to make it look like others did. Your failure on this has been fully chronicled here for all to see and witness. You make shit up, lie, and try to deflect from your failure. You are a retard and it has been proven.

APK has been proven to be a retarded liar

[Anonymous Coward]

You don't know what facts are. You seem to think that a fact is what ever baseless idea comes to your retarded mind. You can't make your arguments ever and when you get destroyed you either start pretending there is support by posting unsigned or you start repeating your previously proven to be false statements.

No, it's called I've got more proof than you

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject & you say it's "trivial & obvious"? Anything's trivial if someone SHOWS you it before you think of iit OR try it yourself.

* FACT: I did it BEFORE China, period which means I am the ORIGINAL, not them, WITH VALID PROOF OF IT (date of public production).

PLUS, my work does far more than that in hosts for protection & speed BEYOND hardcoded favorite sites a user spends most time @ to speedup resolution from LOCAL system RAM that also protects vs. DNS down OR redirect poisoned - My program also blocks ads + threats + scripts that track/slow/infect you.

(I also know my program is the ONLY ONE of its KIND doing all that & in easy to use GUI flexible configuration form - any others do now? I did it 1st & yes, they COPIED the idea)

APK

P.S.=> You're even worse - you "TALK BIG" (but all you DO is talk) & from behind an UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS hiding place, lol... apk

Re: No, it's called I've got more proof than you

[Anonymous Coward]

Saying China copied your work means you're alleging they were aware of your software and intentionally produced software that was nearly identical.

Prove that China was both 1) aware of your software and 2) willfully producing software that was nearly identical.

Dates aren't sufficient to satisfy either criterion. Produce more evidence or retract your allegation.

Only thing that needs chronicles is

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: FACT - You dorks IMPERSONATE me w/ proof of c6gunner (on /. since 2009) doing it https://linux.slashdot.org/com... FORGETTING to submit UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS as usual harassing/STALKING me (Gosh, hiding from me JUST LIKE YOU always do) & he ran from a fair challenge I put to him https://linux.slashdot.org/com... after he insulted me.

* No, it's VERY SAFE for me to say your "chronicle" is a CHRONICLE of you ATTEMPTING to smear me vs. that above (& he's been @ it a LONG time being here since 2009 no less BUT he FINALLY slipped & got caught in the act using his REGISTERED 'lusername' to do it vs. his usual UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous)...

APK

P.S.=> Too bad THE ULTIMATE SMEAR is on YOU after a LITERAL SIMPLE TEST using MY PROGRAM to DO it BLOWS YOU AWAY lol https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... ... apk

*

Concrete, Visible & UNDENIABLE facts

[Anonymous Coward]

FACT - You dorks IMPERSONATE me w/ proof of c6gunner (on /. since 2009) doing it https://linux.slashdot.org/com... FORGETTING to submit UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS as usual harassing/STALKING me (Gosh, hiding from me JUST LIKE YOU always do) & he ran from a fair challenge I put to him https://linux.slashdot.org/com... after he insulted me.

* No, it's VERY SAFE for me to say your "chronicle" is a CHRONICLE of you ATTEMPTING to smear me vs. that above (& he's been @ it a LONG time being here since 2009 no less BUT he FINALLY slipped & got caught in the act using his REGISTERED 'lusername' to do it vs. his usual UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous)...

APK

P.S.=> Too bad THE ULTIMATE SMEAR is on YOU after a LITERAL SIMPLE TEST using MY PROGRAM to DO it BLOWS YOU AWAY lol https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... ... apk

He is not the father of the WWW

[Anonymous Coward]

He steered a committee that defined the DOCUMENT format known as HTML.

And he screwed that up by choices made over HTML5 (think DRM).

IMHO he's now talking out of the other side of his face. I lost all respect for him previously, didn't think it could get lower until this.

APK just can't stop being a retard

[Anonymous Coward]

Dammit APK you just can't stop being a retard can you.
I'm not c6gunner and neither are most of the people here that take your retarded ass to task , mock you, or point out your unending lies. Every time you whine and bitch like a little girl about c6gunner or about how people ran from one of your old man yelling at clouds challenges you only expose your untreated mental illness more. You really should stop this and seek professional help.
Sorry APK but you can't refute anything that was chronicled there. The behavior patterns, the style of writing, the unwillingness to concede, the shitty grammar, the way you bold and capitalize things, the petty name calling, the statements that you won, etc. All of this indicates that it was you making those statements. Add in that it is signed how you sign shit plus the subject is in your style it becomes very hard to deny that in fact your retarded ass did in fact make those statements. If the truth is a smear campaign against you then you are in for a very rough life. That isn't the first time you have been caught lying and making shit up either, might I remind everyone of when arth1 took you to task on host names, sub domains and how it is trivial for a script, either client side or server side, to evade all your efforts. Or are you now going to claim that was someone impersonating you when you absolutely insisted multiple times that sub domains cost money? That argument went on way too long with you failing to realize that while your shitware has to hold more fully qualified host names than there are atoms in the universe attackers, malware authors, ad server, etc. can generate fully qualified host names at will that all will correctly resolve to a single IP with a trivial amount of effort on their end and don't need to track what the random part is.
Your little test with your throwaway program was you acting like a retard attempting to make it seem like other people were saying things they weren't. You created a strawman argument that no one but you put forward and then tried to tear it down. Doing that only make you look like a gaint failure.

You just can't stop being a retard and lying as you attempt to deceive people.
Here is a challenge for you, if your toy work is so good and can auto generate host lists then please show me how it can block all possible hosts under a domain. The domain I chose is APK-is-a-retard.com and has a DNS record of " *.APK-is-a-retard.com A 85.234.43.19 ". So now please show me how your trash program blocks all possible entries under that domain because I can create a script like arth1 showed and any site could use that to make a connection to the single machine behind all those hostnames. I demand that you post that list here on slashdot and that you stop your posting until you do so.

SIMPLE TEST u FAIL & FACT U IMPERSONATE ME

[Anonymous Coward]

0.0.0.0 test1.com:53
0.0.0.0 test2.com:53
0.0.0.0 jowie.com
0.0.0.0 jealous.com
0.0.0.0 jowie.com
0.0.0.0 test3.com
0.0.0.0 borlnd.com
0.0.0.0 tester.com

* RUN THAT DATASET THRU MY PROGRAM & WHAT RESULTS COME OUT THAT HAVE A "PORT FILTER" ATTACHED?

NONE!

Only borlnd.com, tester.com, test3.com, jealous.com & jowie.com (last 2 are for YOU, lol) REMAIN (no filters on them)

MY PROGRAM EVEN PREVENTS THAT MISTAKE!

APK

P.S.=> THIS PROVES MY PROGRAM'S OUTPUT DOES NOT ALLOW "PORT FILTERING" ENTRIES IN HOSTS as I said!

ALL DESPITE you IMPERSONATING ME & LYING (for YEARS now) saying hosts do + STALKING ME via UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS too (loser weezil).

It's LONG PROVEN YOU DO THAT c6gunner https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

+ your LIES saying I have a MacOS model (I don't YET) OR that hosts cure Spectre/Meltdown (hosts don't but you LIE impersonating ME saying they do - FILTERS in hosts too!)... apk

Re: SIMPLE TEST u FAIL & FACT U IMPERSONATE ME

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm a different AC than the one you're replying to.

The fact that your program doesn't generate output that includes ports is not evidence of impersonation or that you never overstated the capabilities of hosts. You've also been told many times that you can put an end to any impersonation by creating an account and logging in when you post. You refuse to do so. Why? Don't run from this question. Answer it and explain why you don't log in, yet whine about alleged impersonation.

You also failed to the question about how your software could block all possible subdomains under a particular domain. Your argument about wildcards leading to false positives is, at best, highly suspect.

This is just more of the same from you, where you dodge the question, post illogical and fallacious arguments to support your position, and then ask red herring questions of others to deflect from the original issue.

And no, I don't write security software. However, that doesn't at all preclude me from correctly noting that the security provided by your software is very limited in scope and that you vastly overstate its capabilities.

By the way, people reply to you anonymously because you have a history of stalking and harassing users like Coren22, amicusNYCL, Ol Olsoc, Zontar The Mindless, Ash-Fox, and so many others. Thar list even includes c6gunner, who I highly doubt has ever impersonated you. You're just intentionally too obtuse to recognize that the c6gunner post you link to was obvious parody and everyone (except you) understood it as such.

Nobody wants to put up with days, weeks, months, or even years of harassment from you just because they disagreed with you once. You have a long history of harassing users on other sites, too, whether it be Thor Schrock or a number of users from ArsTechnica. When users like c6gunner and Ash-Fox stopped arguing with you, you responded by spamming article after article with posts calling them out, even when they hadn't posted in those articles. You encouraged other users to harass Ash-Fox after you argued with him. You're willing to stalk and harass people because you're obsessed with winning every single fucking argument on the internet.

When normal people get something wrong and it's pointed out to them, they either walk or back or outright admit they were wrong. You seem genuinely incapable of either. You have to get the last word, even when you're obviously wrong and dug an incredibly deep hole.

You act like you and your software are God's gifts to Slashdot. The fact that I use the same phrase as someone who has impersonated you does not mean that I impersonate you, nor would it undermine anything else I've said. It is an accurate assessment of your behavior.

LOL! Arth1 TOTALLED himself BADLY... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

I destroyed Arth1's bs w/ HIS OWN WORDS & wildcards cause false positives (hosts specifics don't) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

* YOU FAIL - AGAIN, lol...

APK

P.S.=> Nothing NEW for you vs. me hehehehe & the above + a SIMPLE TEST YOU FAIL too https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... makes me laugh (& everyone ELSE would @ your puny ploys also - no wonder you don't produce good programs like I do that even registered /.ers like/use/praise & 100,000++ folks worldwide use as I have (you're TOO stupid & wasting your time OBSESSED w/ me ONLY TO LOSE AGAIN vs. me as usual for you - lol!)... apk

Re: LOL! Arth1 TOTALLED himself BADLY... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

Bullshit.

You've posted instructions that encourage people to block domains like github.com. There's a lot of very useful software hosted there, which you would block on the basis of a few security issues. Although no wildcards were used, blocking just that domain leads to false positives.

Yes, wildcards can cause false positives when used improperly. However, if a particular domain, say apk-is-a-liar.com is owned and controlled by a malicious user, is it more effective to just block apk-is-a-liar.com or also to block *.apk-is-a-liar.com? How would this lead to false positives?

If you're not careful about which domains you block, you can have false positives. No shit, APK! Your logic is flawed at best.

Re: LOL! Arth1 TOTALLED himself BADLY... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

APK's correct. Kodi campaign is served by github and is listed at ESET 3/4 of the way down the page https://www.welivesecurity.com... as an unknowing accomplice.

Re: LOL! Arth1 TOTALLED himself BADLY... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

You are APK, and I will address you accordingly.

Here's a conspiracy theory that's no less valid than your ridiculous allegation that China copied your work.

You are obsessed with criticizing any software that you view as a competing product. That's why you demand users to show they've produced better security software than your hosts file program.

Github hosts "competing" software such as Steven Black's hosts file generator. You gain from encouraging users to block Github because it results in blocking what you view as a competing product.

Steven Black's software is superior to yours in some ways. It is open source, allowing for the code to directly be audited by anyone for vulnerabilities and malicious behavior. Yours is closed source, so people generally cannot audit the source code. Steven Black's software is a collection of Python scripts, making them highly portable. That allows them to run in places your software cannot, such as on MacOS or even on jailbroken iOS or rooted Android systems. Steven Black's software can run on MacOS. You don't have a MacOS version. The lack of a built-in GUI is also an advantage. That means Steven Black's software can easily run as a service, something your software cannot so easily do. It's more suitable for environments such as servers, where a GUI might not be desired.

Retard APK runs from the challenge

[Anonymous Coward]

I see you are running from the simple challenge I gave you. I guess your shit program can't do what you state. Like the lying retard you are you are too dumb to realize you lost long ago, both in this argument and the one you had with arth1. In the argument with arth1 it is clear that the attackers don't need to store the generated host names since each one redirects to the same IP but your solution does require that every host in a domain needs to be listed. You also stated that your work can create these lists. So come on retard show me a host file generated from your bullshit tool that blocks all possible hosts from the APK-is-a-retard.com domain or can't you do that simple task and prove arth1 and myself wrong? I will stop telling everyone about your lies once you post that list here to slashdot. As always APK can't backup his claims with evidence and has to try and cover up for his now exposed lies. You claim to have unlimited posting abilities so you can prove that too shit for brains.

Note that APK keeps referring to his own straw man argument he constructed in a failed attempt to make it seem like others were saying things they didn't in an attempt to cover up his unending lies. Finally I am not c6gunner no matter how obsessed with him you are.

Wildcards generate false positives & Arth1 fai

[Anonymous Coward]

Wildcards generate false positives (hosts specifics don't) & Arth1 failed here w/out doubt https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... - so you FAIL yet again vs. me AS Mb (when you're not IMPERSONATING me too that is, lol).

* You're USED to FAILING vs. me - proof? More e.g. "examples thereof":

https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

https://developers.slashdot.or...

https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

APK

P.S.=> You say hosts = shit https://slashdot.org/comments.... ? /.ers & security pros + RESULTS say DIFFERENT:

1st: /.ers https://slashdot.org/comments.... https://slashdot.org/comments.... https://slashdot.org/comments.... https://slashdot.org/comments.... https://slashdot.org/comments.... https://slashdot.org/comments....

2nd: SECURITY PROS https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

3rd: REAL RESULTS w/ hosts vs. threats https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

EAT YOUR WORDS

Retarded bitch APK runs from a simple challenge

[Anonymous Coward]

Hey retard how come you keep running from my challenge to show me a list generated from your fake security software that creates hosts entries to block all hosts in the APK-is-a-retard.com domain. You said your shitware can generate those lists so prove it bitch. You also say you have unlimited posting ability here so you can prove that too once you get that list generated. Or instead are you going to run and change the subject or deflect because you can't deliver on what you state.

Retarded bitch APK runs from an easy challenge

[Anonymous Coward]

I see you are still running from my easy challenge. I said nothing about doing wild cards in hosts only that you provide a complete listing of all possible host entries for the APK-is-a-retard.com domain like you claimed your bullshit security software can produce. You keep trying to deflect from that because you are a failure and a retard.

Everything you posted links to there has been debunked many times but you just refuse to believe all the evidence that was ever presented. Failure on your end to understand simple things in not my problem.

So come on retarded lying bitch APK post that list you claim your shit software can produce. You can also show off your ability to have unlimited posts while doing it too. Until you do I will continue exposing your unending lies and failure.

LOL! HUGE FAIL 4U (again as always)... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject & reputable source ESET/NOD32 proves github.com served threats https://it.slashdot.org/commen... - I listed what the source did: Github = threat!

(BEAUTY of hosts is U have COMPLETE CONTROL of its data - edit out what U DO NOT LIKE yourself (no waiting for updates from others)).

Also: My hosts engine has a TUNABLE "false positives" list STOPPING it EVER being in hosts!

"Yes wildcards can cause false positives" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 25, 2018 (#57536347)

* hosts specifics don't.

APK

P.S.=> My logic & program WORK vs. threats - doing MORE 4 LESS + NATIVELY vs. "Bolt-on-'MoAr'" ILLOGIC-LOGIC 'solutions' w/ SECURITY ISSUES + SLOWDOWN (DNS/Antivirus - or addons crippled by default AdBlock) & hosts SPEED YOU UP 2 ways (adblocks+hardcodes) + FASTER RESOLUTION vs. slower REMOTE DNS (tracking you) & stop botnets etc. MINUS BLOAT & exploitable moving parts inefficiencies other methods have... apk

Re: LOL! HUGE FAIL 4U (again as always)... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

You've said that you don't cite anonymous cowards to endorse your software. Why are you suddenly willing to cite an AC post to support your position? For all we know, you could have posted that AC comment yourself.

DOUBLE FAIL for u

[Anonymous Coward]

U ADMIT wildcards make false positives - hosts don't https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... + I'm right on github https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

* HOW MUCH "FAIL" CAN YOU KEEP PACKING INTO THIS DEBATE FOR YOURSELF?

APK

P.S.=> RoTfLmAo @ you... apk

You impersonating me = FACT

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: c6gunner's name on this as submitter yet signed "APK" https://linux.slashdot.org/com... & he ran from a fair challenge I put to him https://linux.slashdot.org/com... after insulting me.

You = same UNIDENTIFIABLE ac & LIE about me e.g.:

"God's gift to /.", MacOS version of my prog, my prog cures Intel Spectre/Meltdown https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

& filters (I don't say that & MY PROGRAM DOESN'T even DO them/b> https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

OVERSTATING what hosts do (& you admit they work vs. threats + speed natively (not bolt on more bs w/ security issues (DNS/Antivir) & slowdown - hosts speed you up 2 ways))?

https://hardware.slashdot.org/...

Your problem's I make you UNIDENTIFIABLE "brave standing behind your words" (not) AC WEEZILS "history" as YOU HIDE ac.

APK

P.S.=> You BLEW IT again vs. me (Kodi/Github) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...... apk

Re: You impersonating me = FACT

[Anonymous Coward]

You complain about people posting anonymously when they interact with you, yet you post anonymously. That could be viewed as hypocrisy. There are legitimate reasons for posting anonymously, such as trying to make a valid point without fear of retribution for telling the truth. People who interact with you anonymously generally choose their anonymity because you have a history of retaliatory harassment toward your critics. Your lies need to be confronted, and doing so anonymously avoids the harassment that you typically direct toward your critics who are not anonymous.

What is your reason for posting anonymously? Can you provide a valid reason? Or is it simply for the purpose of avoiding the consequences that moderation has on karma?

What is your reason for harassing users like Ash-Fox? It's one thing to debate and argue with someone in a particular discussion. It's a totally different thing to start call-out threads in just about every story for a full day or two, even if that user hasn't even posted in the story. It's different when your call-out threads encourage other users to harass someone who you've had a disagreement with. You encouraged people to question and criticize Ash-Fox over the same issues that you were arguing with him about. You encouraged harassment because of a disagreement you had. How do you justify your actions on harassing Ash-Fox and encouraging other users to do so? I don't give a shit that you didn't sign your call-out threads with "APK". Everyone knows that you were responsible. Why is your behavior acceptable?

Because you RAN yourself into the GROUND

[Anonymous Coward]

You RAN yourself into the GROUND w/ false accusations (github/kodi) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & for "fake security software" SECURITY PROS annihilate you FOR me https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... as do slashdotters galore (REGISTERED ones not raging LOSERS by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous STALKING me as you are)!

ALL proving hosts are NOT fake & SO DO RESULTS USING hosts vs. threats https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

* LOL! You CANNOT WIN vs. FACT!

(Thanks for your FURTHER BLUNDER in that 1st link, lol!)

APK

P.S.=> Wildcards CREATE FALSE POSITIVES (hosts don't) & YOU ADMIT IT:

"Yes wildcards can cause false positives" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 25, 2018 (#57536347)

FROM https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... - you LOSE & you are MY BITCH, bitch (lol)... apk

Retard APK keeps running like a pussy

[Anonymous Coward]

Retarded shit for brains APK that wasn't me. Even if it does generate errors it is far fewer that your shit work does and as such would provide more protection. I'm also still waiting for your dumb ass to produce that list of possible host entries for APK-is-a-retard.com domain like you claimed your bullshit security software can produce. You keep running like a little bitch because you can't actually prove anything yet you keep claiming that you never have false positives but can stop all malicious hosts. So I'm giving you a chance to prove it you retarded lying pussy. I'll even make it easier for you, generate 1% of the possible hosts entries for that domain. Until you can do that you can't say your work provides any real security.
 
All your statements from security experts have been shown to be lies before and the quotes you use have been shown to be taken out of context and/or retracted. Your failure is the stuff of legends.

Looks like you: UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject & YOU (unidentifiable anonymous STALKER of me) ADMITTING-> "Yes wildcards can cause false positives" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 25, 2018 (#57536347) FROM https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & SECURITY PROS etc. put you away on hosts efficacy vs. threats/tracking + more speed yield https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... vs. the rest of your BS, Mr. "ne'er-do-well" DO-nothing JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" (RoTfLmAo - I love calling you that - fits you).

* Arth1 TOTALLED HIMSELF the SAME way too (lol) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

APK

P.S.=> See 1st line: You already SELF-DEFEATED yourself FOR ME, lol, as USUAL - thanks!... apk

Re: Looks like you: UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh, the irony of an unidentifiable anonymous stalker (you) accusing someone else of being an unidentifiable anonymous stalker.

Yes, you are unidentifiable, because you allege you're being impersonated when there's no obvious way to tell whether the post is genuine or not. By your own admission, it's difficult for other users to identify whether a post signed "APK" was written by you or someone impersonating you. That makes you unidentifiable.

You are an unidentifiable anonymous stalker.

ESET/NOD32 aren't AC... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: ESET PROVES I'm not wrong & SHOW github's part of a malware! U LOSE vs. https://www.welivesecurity.com...

APK

P.S.=> I don't play the games YOU just projected YOU do (talk to yourself) it's BAD ENOUGH on YOUR PART ALREADY that you STALK ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS &/or IMPERSONATE ME, so no, I don't LOWER myself to YOUR lowest of the LOW level!

Me? Hey - I just POST FACT as I did above vs. your bullshit https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... to let YOU just DESTROY yourself for ME, as always - lol: Thanks! apk

Ash-Fox You're the hypocrite... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

You start trouble w/ me & made yourself out a fool vs. me & here's proof https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... PROVING I HAD SUCCESSFUL COMMERCIALLY DONE PROGRAM's CODE I sold to a CERTIFIED Microsoft Partner & YOU HAD SHIT by comparison (LMAO - YOU by comparison with ZERO TO SHOW FOR YOURSELF tried "NDA" bullshit, lol)).

Lastly - SEE SUBJECT - you're STALKING ME AGAIN via UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS (so 'brave' of you & PROJECTING you are Ash-Fox by BRINGING HIM UP for no real reason).

FACT: There are no lies from ME here, hypocrite - ONLY you.

APK

P.S.=> I keep histories via bookmarks of whenever you fools try this crap & I know myself - I don't START trouble - & I BET YOU DID w/ ME 1st... & in the end, always?

I do finish it by LETTING "your kind", the FAKENAMES online (lol, true though) FINISH yourselves for me & you do, every SINGLE time, via your screwups... apk

Run, Forrest, run!

[Anonymous Coward]

I asked you a couple of questions and you ran.

I asked you to explain why you feel the need to post anonymously. You ran from my question.

I explained why I need to post anonymously when interacting with you. I then asked the same question of you, but you ran like a chickenshit.

I asked you why you start numerous call-out threads that are off-topic and encourage people to harass users like Ash-Fox. You ran from this question, too.

LMAO: A scriptkiddie SKRYPT != competition

[Anonymous Coward]

I didn't write github is "bad" - ESET DID & THEY'RE CORRECT https://www.welivesecurity.com...

Mine's SINGLE-.EXE virus proof construction, GUI easy to use, & TRUE exe "stand-alone" NON-Interpreted (1 of the fastest languages there is on strings in Pascal (behind C & Assembly only afaik & hosts work is HUGELY strings)) fully error trapped & SELF-CONTAINED!

Does his script do hardcoded favorites @ TOP of hosts?

NOT WHEN I LOOKED!

NO gui programs in Windows do (& none in *NIX in GUI until MINE afaik).

Miss out on that in hosts you MISS out on a LOT!

E.G.:

Faster local resolution
Proof vs. DNS kaminsky flaw redirect poisoning
Proof vs. DNS requestlog tracking

In terms of BOTH speed & security.

Same goes for VALID tld/gtld checks.

Missing out here allows JUNK &/or BLOAT (& also port filters that are a 'online rumor' afaik for hosts but not real - my program prevents that too https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

APK

P.S.=> I'll have a MacOS X one inevitably... apk

LOL! Ever heard the saying "time will tell"?

[Anonymous Coward]

LOL! Ever heard the saying "time will tell"? It DID. I did hardcoded hosts favorites in my program in 2012 way before China.

* FACT!

You can RAIL vs. FACT all day - you lose.

(That's ALL I NEED TO PROVE & dates DO THE JOB FOR ME!)

APK

P.S.=> Everyone KNOWS China STEALS everything like military & industrial secrets too, lol... apk

I quote what was said (my work's good)

[Anonymous Coward]

"I've never tried to belittle (APK's work), I've flat out said it's good" - by BronsCon (927697) on Thursday February 11, 2016 - You trying to say BronsCon didn't say that about the QUALITY of MY program?

* Good LUCK that - you ADMITTED BronsCon SAYS MY WORK IS GOOD here "I said that BronsCon did, indeed, say the quoted text" from https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

APK

P.S.=> You can't win vs. me & IF you're trying to "post bury" this via "forums sliding" I can't BLAME you for trying to HIDE it - it's ALL YOU DO is "hide", lol - chickenshit UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous & all, lmao (fact)... apk

I quote what was said (my work's good)

[Anonymous Coward]

"I've never tried to belittle (APK's work), I've flat out said it's good" - by BronsCon (927697) on Thursday February 11, 2016 - You trying to say BronsCon didn't say that about the QUALITY of MY program?

* Good LUCK that - you ADMITTED BronsCon SAYS MY WORK IS GOOD here "I said that BronsCon did, indeed, say the quoted text" from https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

BronsCon YOU (yes it's you, nobody else cares) said it - no taking it back & the BULLSHIT I HEARD on "my behavior" outta you? PLEASE - YOU STALK ME BY UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS & say I behave bad?

Clue: Not that YOUR OPINION there MATTERS on how GOOD MY WORK IS!

You KNOW & SAID IT IS good!

APK

P.S.=> You can't win vs. me & IF you're trying to "post bury" this via "forums sliding" I can't BLAME you for trying to HIDE it - it's ALL YOU DO is "hide", lol - chickenshit UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous & all, lmao (fact)... apk

Ash-Fox more like YOU RAN Mr. "NDA", lol... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

No, YOU RAN Mr. "NDA" (what a LOAD of BULLSHIT that was from you w/ ZERO to show for yourself) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

* I've told someone this THIS week already - I can't get "APK" since someone joined /. LONG BEFORE I ever came here (1st time 2005) so IF I can't be MYSELF?

I refuse to be a FAKENAME!

I see a LOT of "fakename" types ABUSING the system here on /. (sockpuppets for gaming moderation upmodding a main acc't. of theirs OR downmod bombinb opponents) - I REFUSE to LOWER MYSELF to that level. Period.

By the way/AGAIN - YOU bringing up Ash-Fox? YOU ARE him, obviously.

APK

P.S.=> Plus, logged in you are TRACKED to High-Hell & SLOWED DOWN (by who knows WHAT in the scripts, maybe worse than slowdown possibly) - again, NOT for me... apk

Says UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous STALKER of me

[Anonymous Coward]

Says UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous STALKER of me & I don't stalk those I TOTALLED easily all evidenced here https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

* Why bother? They're already GOOD as DEAD if they give me guff - I'll just laugh @ 'em EVERY TIME & toss bookmarked defeats they have vs. me @ them RIGHT away (to start things & EACH has a TON of FAILS vs. me).

APK

P.S.=> So they TRY it AGAIN - always do - why? Well, you PROVE it (you're 1 of 'em obviously) except NOW you use UNIDENTIFIABLE "brave" (lol, not) ANONYMOUS posts STALKING me (makes me laugh). Your fragile egos SHATTERED vs. me which you brought on YOURSELVES - & "your kind" all 'butthurt' finding out FINALLY that you're NOT GOOD @ computing (especially when you 'try' me, you always LOSE) vs. me.

I guess retard APK lied some more

[Anonymous Coward]

I guess retard APK lied some more and his shitty software can't do what he claimed. He keeps running from a simple challenge that he said his fake security software can accomplish. So come on apk produce that list of all possible host entries for APK-is-a-retard.com domain like you claim your bullshit security software can produce. At this point I would accept even 1% of that list but you know you can't deliver because you are a liar and got caught again.
 
Because you keep getting caught in your lies you refuse to accept facts just like you did with arth1, just like you did when you said hosts does port filtering, and just like you do now. You keep being exposed as a fraud and then you try to deflect from that. So come one pussy shit for brains show me that list you say your retardware can produce.

Retarded liar APK keeps running

[Anonymous Coward]

Retarded liar APK you keep running from my simple challenge. I'm still waiting for your dumb ass to produce that list of possible host entries for APK-is-a-retard.com domain like you claimed your bullshit security software can produce. I'll even make it easier for you, generate 1% of the possible hosts entries for that domain. I'm giving you a chance to prove it you retarded lying pussy but you know your software doesn't work so you choose to avoid the issue. I guess you like proving that you are a retard, are a compulsive liar, and that when people say that you overstate your capabilities they are correct.

Wildcards produce false positives... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

You admit it "Yes wildcards can cause false positives" - by UNIDENTIFIABLE Anonymous STALKER of me on Thursday October 25, 2018 (#57536347) FROM https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... - hosts specifics don't.

* Hosts = easy to edit vs. it OR use my program's FALSE POSITIVE FILTER & hosts WORK for more security vs. threats https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

I never said hosts do port filters.

You IMPERSONATE me to try make it look like that!

Like c6gunner was caught doing forgetting to submit AC using his registered 'lusr'name instead https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

A SIMPLE TEST USING MY PROGRAM PROVES IT https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & IF hosts could do port filtering I'd say it on the download page @ Start64.com for it AND my program would DO it (it does not & STOPS that error).

APK

P.S.=> Arth1 TRIED that & FAILED https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... + I caught you in a LIE Github https://www.welivesecurity.com... vs. YOUR LIE https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

Wildcards produce false positives... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

You admit it "Yes wildcards can cause false positives" - by UNIDENTIFIABLE Anonymous STALKER of me on Thursday October 25, 2018 (#57536347) FROM https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... - hosts specifics don't.

* Hosts = easy to edit vs. it OR use my program's FALSE POSITIVE FILTER & hosts WORK for more security vs. threats https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

I never said hosts do port filters.

You IMPERSONATE me to try make it look like that!

Like c6gunner was caught doing forgetting to submit AC using his registered 'lusr'name instead https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

A SIMPLE TEST USING MY PROGRAM PROVES IT https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & IF hosts could do port filtering I'd say it on the download page @ Start64.com for it AND my program would DO it (it does not & STOPS that error)!

APK

P.S.=> Arth1 TRIED that & FAILED https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... + I caught you in a LIE Github https://www.welivesecurity.com... vs. YOUR LIE https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

RetardAPK is afraid to show his stuff doesn't work

[Anonymous Coward]

He retard APK, I'm not asking for wildcards or even proper regular expression matching, I am asking for a simple exact match list of all hosts file entries that will block all possible hosts under the APK-is-a-retard.com domain like you claim your bullshit security software can produce. Those entries are the specifics you claim hosts is all about so produce them, or are you too afraid that you can't deliver on your claims? I have stated several times now that I would accept a listing of just 1% of them to make it easier to accomplish. Alas APK keeps trying to change the subject and deflect from this challenge because he knows his little fake security program is even more retarded that he is and doesn't work.

APK's claims about port filtering is also false and was documented here as being another lie of his. Finally APK's program should not be used given his inability to understand how domains, hostnames, DNS, scripts, or anything else works .

I block malwares discovered as threats

[Anonymous Coward]

I add malware/botnet C&C etc. as they're discovered as threats & BLOCK them (facts = all I need ->) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... to THAT effect, proof's RIGHT there in just SOME examples.

(I never made claims other than that above UNLESS YOU IMPERSONATED ME AGAIN & you DO, see my 'p.s.' below for proof of it - I catch MOST of you doing it but I am sure not all)

* ... & those I BLOCK? They're STILL threats, no questions asked, UNLESS you block them out & my hosts program does from 8 reputable hosts makers + security articles data you collect yourself.

APK

P.S.=> Your IMPERSONATING me is proven c6gunner's no 1st https://linux.slashdot.org/com... )

Saying things like I have a MacOS X version (I do not) & that "hosts cure Spectre/Meltdown (they do not) https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

PORTFILTERING SIMPLE TEST THAT SLAMS YOUR MOUTH SHUT https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... & YOU FAIL - My program FILTERS out 'portfilters' errors in hosts... apk

HOW STUPID DO YOU FEEL NOW? apk

[Anonymous Coward]

DGA trackers exist STUPID (how dumb do you feel NOW asswipe) TONS of them https://www.bing.com/search?FO...

* That's how I get those too dumbfuck.

APK

P.S.=> YOU, as always, LOSE - ESPECIALLY on PORT FILTER LIE you told just like MacOS X &/or Spectre-Meltdown too YOU IMPERSONATED ME TO DO THEM https://news.slashdot.org/comm... to try "discredit me" but your OWN GAME backfired on you - you're BUSTED c6gunner (you're not the only one I can show this from either) https://linux.slashdot.org/com... A SIMPLE TEST USING MY PROGRAM STOPS "port filters" IN HOSTS & IF hosts could do THAT? My program WOULD https://news.slashdot.org/comm... ... apk

Great retard APK, now prove it works

[Anonymous Coward]

Great so you don't disclaim your retarded statements, now prove that you can create a list of all hosts file entries that will block all possible hosts under the APK-is-a-retard.com domain like you claim your bullshit security software can produce. As stated before many times now I will even accept a list that only contains 1% of them. You will have to post it here on slashdot but this will give the a chance to prove another one of your lies, that you have unlimited posting, too. You won't because your shit toy program doesn't fucking work because it was written by a retarded liar. It provides no security as I demonstrated how simple it is to circumvent all your effort. I never said that they didn't exist as that is just you trying to put words into other people's mouth in a failed attempt to try to cover up your lies. Furthermore all of your efforts are just a band aid long after things have happened that requires people spend many minutes to later experience milliseconds of speedup.

I see you are still obsessed with c6gunner and have to keep deflecting away from your unending failure. You also really need to seek professional help as you are getting more unhinged by the moment and becoming evermore detached from reality. Maybe someday your parents will stop regretting not aborting you, but today isn't that day and the rest of the century isn't looking so good either.

Easy to prove hosts work vs. threats

[Anonymous Coward]

DGA trackers exist as I showed you & I add those entries & they do what you say - inevitably they get detected is why. Host work & this proves it https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... from SECURITY PROS & also vs. threats in botnets etc. per https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

* ALL THE PROOF I NEED IS THOSE 2 LINKS TO SHUT YOU DOWN EASILY, lol!

(Wildcards produce false positives - you ADMITTED it - hosts specifics don't & you can EASILY edit hosts vs. any too OR use my program's FALSE POSITIVE LIST (Linux) to stop any you dont want in hosts 'automagically')

APK

P.S.=> Keep HIDING from me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts STALKING me spouting your bs lies - it's doing you wonders (not)... apk