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Apple Expected To Announce iPad Pro With USB-C Next Week (bloomberg.com)

Bloomberg highlights all the big announcements expected to be made next week at Apple's October hardware event, such as an iPad Pro with a USB-C port instead of a Lightning port, a MacBook Air successor, and a new Mac Mini. From the report: The update to the iPad Pro will be the most significant in the product's history. The device was originally launched in 2015 in part as a counter-measure to Microsoft's Surface Pro, which gained a following with business users seeking large tablets with support for attachable keyboards and styluses. The iPad Pro models, which have larger screens, better cameras, and faster processors, are more expensive, which has sustained revenue growth. [Some of the new features, according to people familiar with the plans, include a nearly edge-to-edge display with slimmer bezels, a USB-C connector, Face ID, Animojis, a faster processor (variant of the A12 Bionic chip), a custom Apple graphics chip, and an updated Apple Pencil.]

For the Mac, Apple is planning its first wide-ranging upgrades since June 2017. The MacBook Air and Mac mini, a small desktop machine without a screen, have gone several years without notable changes. This, combined with interest in larger smartphones and competing PCs, led Apple to report the fewest Mac sales since 2010 in its fiscal third quarter. [Apple is reportedly planning a new entry-level laptop to replace the aging MacBook Air. It's expected to have a higher-resolution 13-inch screen, as well as slimmer bezels around the display. The Mac mini will have new processors and features for professional users. Apple's also working on refreshed iMacs, iMac Pros, and 12-inch MacBooks with faster processors, and at least some of these updates could be ready for the October launch.]
The event's theme is "making," and it will take place in New York City on Tuesday at 10:00am EST.

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  1. "History"? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The update to the iPad Pro will be the most significant in the product's history.

    The product has been around less than three years. Does that really qualify as "history"? And isn't every Apple products new update the "most significant in the product's history"? How many times can Apple go to the well with that horseshit?

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    1. Re:"History"? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe a significant moment in Apple's history, if they are finally switching to USB-C instead of their proprietary Lightning bullshit.

      I wouldn't celebrate just yet though. You can bet that they will do something to make it crappy and expensive and only work properly with Apple certified stuff.

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    2. Re:"History"? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

      I also blame Apple's love for the needlessly dramatic for supplanting "contact" with "reach out". Ugh.

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    3. Re:"History"? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I expect USB host mode won't be supported. At least not to any useful degree.

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    4. Re:"History"? by gtall · · Score: 3, Insightful

      on the other hand, to use MS's tablet means I have to use Winders....no, nothing is worth that.

    5. Re:"History"? by known_coward_69 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Lightning is awesome. there is no way to plug it in wrong and the data works on my car's USB port

    6. Re:"History"? by LtUoNXizqxawTj4ofx7t · · Score: 2

      Gimp? On a tablet? That was a good one. And linux on tablet? I'll wait for linux on desktop first. People are going to love solving problems in a console on a tablet for sure.

  2. not USB-C by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    USB-C is just a trolling rumor, nothing more. What they are actually going to do is introduce a new faster proprietary dongle connector. It doesn't connect to anything directly, just dongles. This is the type of leading innovation that Apple excels at. Because courage.

    1. Re:not USB-C by mentil · · Score: 3, Funny

      One Dongle to rule them all!
      And in the darkness, trip on it and stub your toe.

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  3. ZenPad 3S 10 by Tough+Love · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ZenPad 3S 10 with USB-C. Already out for a year. Obviously, all mobile tablets and phones are going to USB-C, Apple only follows the herd.

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    1. Re:ZenPad 3S 10 by blindseer · · Score: 2

      Apple only follows the herd? How quickly people forget their history.

      The Lightning port came out in 2012 and USB-C was published in 2014 but products didn't appear until at least a year later. Lightning supported more than 5 watts charging, audio, video, and USB data when everyone else was still stuck with the micro USB-B port. Some devices supported MHL output with the micro-B port but this was far from universal.

      USB-C didn't offer video at first, that was added later as an alternate mode. Audio accessories from USB-C didn't happen until just last year with some aborted attempts at vendor specific audio devices before that. Because of this USB-C audio will be a mess until enough of the old incompatible devices get tossed so that people can enjoy a truly "universal" experience from the Universal Serial Bus.

      If Apple adopts USB-C (which is just a rumor now) then it will be because USB-C finally caught up with what Lightning offered in 2012. USB-C copied the Lightning port features, often poorly at first, and just now surpassed the Lightning in features.

      After tearing USB down I will prop it up. USB had enough foresight to allow for extensions to the USB-C feature set to avoid some of the problems with their previous connectors. The alternate mode concept allowed for the use of the port for ThunderBolt, DisplayPort, MHL, and most recently audio accessories, without violating the specification. MHL on USB was a neat hack, but it was a hack. People using USB for power was another hack that the USB group embraced and allowed for standardized and simplified means to draw power later on. I fully expected Apple to leapfrog USB-C with another connector after Lightning, replacing Lightning with something even better than USB-C. I guess Apple found the need to do so unnecessary given that USB-C is now established far more than the many USB-B variants ever were.

      Apple hasn't followed the herd, they adopt the fringes and make them the standard. USB-A was a fringe port until Apple adopted it. USB-C was little more than another USB-B variant until Apple put it on their laptops and took advantage of the higher power and alternate modes the new connector offered. After that the herd followed them. Assuming Apple adopts USB-C on their tablets then I expect the "herd" to follow them and adopt the USB-C spec more closely so that audio devices work on Apple just as well as it does on other devices that follow the spec.

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  4. Oh I see the big deal by Tough+Love · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is about Apple finally backing down from its proprietary connector and going with the same connector as everybody else. But I bet they will find a way to still be incompatible, this is Apple we're talking about.

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    1. Re:Oh I see the big deal by nine-times · · Score: 2

      Apple actually pushes open standards all the time. Apple was one of the first companies to push USB in the first place. I think they created the mini-displayport connector standard and released it patent-free. A lot of times, when people complain about "proprietary" Apple stuff (e.g. Thunderbolt, AAC audio files), they simply don't know what they're talking about.

  5. What's "professional" mean? by SeaFox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Mac mini will have new processors and features for professional users.

    If anything, this shows how out of touch Apple is. The Mac Mini by its very design goals is not meant to be a pro machine. It's small size it supposed to appeal to consumers who don't want a large tower, and that means considerations for thermal output at the expense of performance. It's not made to be easily user serviceable, does not offer discrete graphics, and it does not have any advanced expandability.

    Judging by the current Macbook Pro, I don't think Apple understands what "a machine made for professional use" is. Apparently in a non-portable machine it's
    "any computer that requires a separate monitor".

  6. MacBook Air by hackertourist · · Score: 3, Informative

    The MacBook Air ..., have gone several years without notable changes

    Well, the notable change was that every Apple laptop is now effectively a MacBook Air. Soldered, nonupgradable RAM and SSD, crappy minimal-thickness keyboard, not enough ports.
    So what would be a notable change now is a MacBook Pro that is actually aimed at pro users.

    (typing this on a 2012 MBP that's festooned with upgrades, and may be my last Apple laptop if they keep going like this)

    1. Re:MacBook Air by buravirgil · · Score: 3, Informative

      Another 2012 MBP user with similar sentiment-- I upgraded from a DVD drive MBP specifically for a SSD and waited for years for...a touch bar? Fewer ports? Flawed OS upgrades? But did not abandon Apple for its appliances (tablets) for my mother and sibling because I believed appliances were a valid product line faithful to Apple's attention to leveraging a combination of hardware and software to achieve a better user's experience. I didn't expect Apple to abandon its laptops so completely. UNIX is too powerful a technology to trust to Apple's fictions of public relations after six years of patience. Dual booting a MBP was always a joy, one that has consistently and significantly diminished.

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  7. Software devs by DrYak · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For the subcategory of software devs that run mainly on some other OS (Linux is also popular in the biomed research - mostly on workstations and servers/compute nodes. Windows is still king in some business settings and with gamedevs), but need to port and test code on Mac OS X (which is *also* popular in biomed research - mostly on on laptops, and some iMacs here and there).

    The only legal way to run a licensed OS X (even virtual image) is to run it on Apple hardware (though the license doesn't require it to be the host OS).
    Mac Minis are a cheap and simple way to have a legal way to test Mac OS X code, and use extra monitor inputs and/or console switch box and/or VNC to use the Mini alongside the regular workstation. (The expensive alternative way is to use an Apple workstation *as* your work horse)
    So being more capable would certainly be appreciated (e.g.: could be easier to run multiple VirtualBoxes with the various versions of Mac OS X you target in tests).

    But indeed, it's a very tiny subset of Apple's customers and that serie's intended user base.

    Mac Mini were mostly targeted as a "gateway drug to the Apple world" for average PC users (keep all your USB- and HDMI/Displayport- peripherals and only plug a cheap Mini to quickly check if the grass is indeed greener on the other side of the (walled garden's) fence).
    So being a cheap and light-weight machine is relevant for maybe 98% of its intended audience.
    Most of which won't be interested by beefier specs.

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    1. Re:Software devs by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      Neither Mac minis or any other Macs are in "Walled Gardens", you can install what ever you want.

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  8. Not necessarily a port change by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The rumour is based off a software find, not a parts leak. Adding support for USB-C over lightning is far more likely than changing the port. If Apple were going to switch connectors I think the would lead with the iPhone to force peripheral manufacturers to switch first.

  9. Slashdot classics by LtUoNXizqxawTj4ofx7t · · Score: 2

    So much hate. So much retardation.