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Kids Think the Darndest Things About How Computers Work (acm.org)

"When visiting a series of eight primary school class rooms recently, CS professor Judy Robertson talked to children aged 5-12 about how computers work and discussed pictures they drew of what they thought is inside a computer," writes Slashdot reader theodp:
"In my view," Robertson writes, "computational thinking has abstracted us too far away from the heart of computation — the machine. The world would be a tedious place if we had to do all out computational thinking ourselves; that's why we invented computers in the first place. Yet, the new school curricula across the world have lost focus on hardware and how code executes on it."

She notes, "What the pictures, and subsequent classroom discussions told me is that the children know names of components within a computer, and possibly some isolated facts about them. None of the pictures showed accurately how the components work together to perform computation, although the children were ready and willing to reason about this with their classmates. Although some of the children had programmed in the visual programming language, none of them knew how the commands they wrote in Scratch would be executed in the hardware inside a computer. One boy, who had been learning about variables in Scratch the previous day wanted to know whether if he looked in his computer he would really see apps with boxes full of variables in them."

Time to get the Walk-Through Computer (1990 video) out of mothballs?

"Many of the children knew the names of the components within a computer: a chip, memory, a disc, and they were often insistent that there should be a fan in there. They knew that there would be wires inside, and that it would need a battery to make it work...."

But one student confessed that while they knew that a computer was full of both devices and code, "I am not sure what it looked like so I just scribbled."

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  1. Well ... by nospam007 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They also don‘t know how a car or a locomotive works and if they are from the South, how Evolution works.

  2. How a car works ... by peetm · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You're right - and it's not just kids.

    A couple of years ago I was asked to teach a Masters level course in software development. During one discussion, we somehow got on to the subject of cars, and what made them go. Faced with baffled faces and a stunned silence, I drilled a bit deeper and found that none of them actually knew how an internal combustion engine worked - had no idea as to what made it go other than they had to put petrol in every so often. They had cars, drove them, but none of them knew anything about the mechanism under the hood.

    This reminds me of a visit to France earlier this year. My wife and I were walking past a couple when my wife slowed down, turned to me, and said "I don't think the man knows what to do about their flat tyre - the girl has just said to him that he'll have to ask someone." They were well into their 20s, but neither had a clue. With the help of my wife as a translator, I changed the wheel for them. You should have seen their faces when I 'amazed them' with my knowledge, e.g., I knew that there'd be a special adapter required to take off one of the wheel-nuts; and that it was probably in the car's glove compartment (which it was).

    I'm at a loss to explain this. Where has 'curiosity' gone; especially in males!? They all seem too much into self grooming products and how they look these days.

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    @peetm
    1. Re:How a car works ... by alvinrod · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Where has 'curiosity' gone; especially in males!? They all seem too much into self grooming products and how they look these days.

      There are probably a lot of small reasons that contribute. Here's just a few off the top of my head:

      I suspect that a sizable part of it is that increases in minimum wage have resulted in higher teen unemployment. If you can't find a job (because you don't have sufficient skill to command receiving the minimum wage), what else is there to do but sit around and preen. If you can't afford to buy her flowers, you'd better damn well look good? I learned plenty of useful skills doing low wage work that I wouldn't have thought to acquire on my own. Having a job and getting paid also helps you learn some financial responsibility on top of it.

      Another part is probably that parents are more loath to let their children play outside these days due to irrational fears. Part of this is that people are having fewer kids so they're unconsciously far more protective of the one or two that they do have. But when you coop kids up all day, they get sucked in by TV, video games, or other forms of escapism to find some stimulation. Parents don't seem to mind because even though they won't let little Billy outside, they don't want him bugging them all day either.

      On top of that are the helicopter parents that do everything for their children to the point where it removes their ability to grow as a person. If you don't let kids start making decisions as they get older, they're not going to develop properly. Give kids some chores and responsibilities and a little bit of autonomy. Otherwise you get kids who make it college and don't even know how to do their own laundry. And worse yet, they're not really sure how to go about finding out how to do it.

      A tendency to diagnose any rambunctiousness (probably due to a lack of being able to go outside and run around enough) as some form of attention deficit disorder probably kills curiosity in some children. There are kids that are just zombified on medication that they don't really need. Put more physical education in schools and this might not be as much of a problem. It would probably help with the ballooning child obesity rates as well. Humans are still animals and we need physical activity. You'd give a pet hamster a wheel because you realize sitting in a cage all day will just make it stir crazy. Why not do the same for kids?

      Maybe you could even blame some of the so-called diversity initiatives targeting getting more girls involved in subjects or fields that are traditionally male. I don't really think this actively harms boys, but there's still an opportunity cost and a lot of these programs are wasted money or effort that could be spent on expanding programs that will get more feet (regardless of whether they're male or female) naturally beating a path to their doors.

      There are probably dozens of other little things that add to it as well. And it's really sad because today's world offers curiosity satisfaction on demand. The internet puts just about any information right at your finger tips. Even if it's something seemingly mundane, there's probably half a dozen YouTube videos on how to do a thing or offer how-to guides on how to get started with some hobby. You used to have to go down to the library and try to find a book (if they had one) or find someone else to take the time to teach you how. You can get a free introduction to just about anything online. You don't even need to suffer the embarrassment of asking someone else if you feel like it's something you should already know either.

  3. Their knowlege looks fine to me. by Qbertino · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't know, but their knowlege looks just fine to me. That one drawing emphasises two fans - I presume you can hear and/or see them easyest - and just has simple connections between components, not even plus and minus, but let's be honest: Do *you* know how the north and southbridge play together? Or which faulty resistor makes your memory defunct and which one the USB? The last plan of a computer I saw was the C64 layout that came with the manual - and that was pretty much abstracted away too, containing only information that some tinkerer would need.

    That someone thinks a piece of cheese is inside a computer is obviously someone who won't be an engineer but probably a manager or a farmer or something. But children think like that - no big deal.

    Example: As a 4 year old kid I watched the Stan & Laurel piece where they take a rife and shoot at a house and at the same time it explodes because of some dynamite or something. That was the joke but as a 4 year old I didn't get it, couldn't connect the dots between one shot showing a burning fuse, them shooting and the house exploding. I went for a few years thinking that rifles have the power to blow up houses with one shot. Big deal. Children reason as good as they can, and if they learn the details behind things they correct their opinions. That's how reasoning works.

    Bottom line: Open up a computer and show them the insides. They'll learn pretty quickly all the stuff software people like us know. Maybe even more.

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    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
    1. Re:Their knowlege looks fine to me. by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't know, but their knowlege looks just fine to me.

      Yup - it is fine

      Example: As a 4 year old kid I watched the Stan & Laurel piece where they take a rife and shoot at a house and at the same time it explodes because of some dynamite or something. That was the joke but as a 4 year old I didn't get it, couldn't connect the dots between one shot showing a burning fuse, them shooting and the house exploding. I went for a few years thinking that rifles have the power to blow up houses with one shot.

      My own confession - when I was around 4 or so, I was chatting with my father about our car. That was in the days where you weren't constrained to a seat belt. I was standing on the seat beside him and he was showing me things like the spedometer and odometer, and gas guage. He told me that the further we travel, the lower the gas gets in the tank, and eventually it runs out.

      My logical but completely wrong mind jumped to the conclusion that driving the car forward removed gas from the tank, so driving in reverse should fill it.

      And yet now, I have great knowledge about internal combustion engines, the fuel that propels them, the various mechanical devices that trasmits the force they produce to the surface they are sitting on.

      Despite modern ideology, little kids are stupid. Cut them a break everyone. Live isn't an Xfinity commercial where an annoying little child teaches stupid adults about stuff. Big deal. Children reason as good as they can, and if they learn the details behind things they correct their opinions. That's how reasoning works.

      Bottom line: Open up a computer and show them the insides. They'll learn pretty quickly all the stuff software people like us know. Maybe even more.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.