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Scientists Warn That World's Wilderness Areas Are Disappearing (nytimes.com)

Scientists are warning that if human beings continue to mine the world's wildernesses for resources and convert them into cities and farms at the pace of the previous century, the planet's few remaining wild places could disappear in decades. From a report: Today, more than 77 percent of land on earth, excluding Antarctica, has been modified by human industry, according to a study published Wednesday in the journal Nature, up from just 15 percent a century ago. The study, led by researchers from the University of Queensland in Australia and the Wildlife Conservation Society in New York, paints the first global picture of the threat to the world's remaining wildernesses -- and the image is bleak. "We're on a threshold where whole systems could collapse and the consequences of that would be catastrophic," said James R. Allan, one of the study's authors. In the study, Mr. Allan and his colleagues urged the participants of a United Nations conference on biological diversity, scheduled for next month in Egypt, to protect all of the world's remaining wilderness areas. "We cannot afford to lose more," he said. "We must save it in its entirety."

72 comments

  1. Humanity. It was fun while it lasted. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hope your stock returns keep you warm when you drown and/or starve to death with the rest of the species.

    1. Re: Humanity. It was fun while it lasted. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live 1300 ft above current sea level. Drowning won't be a problem.

    2. Re: Humanity. It was fun while it lasted. by DogDude · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If all you care about is not drowning, then you'll be great. If the world economies collapse or we have massive human migration due to climate change or the ecology around the planet gets so fucked that we all get sick and die, then you're fucked just like everybody else, you stupid twat.

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    3. Re: Humanity. It was fun while it lasted. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll be fine. You'll surely be cucked to death.

    4. Re: Humanity. It was fun while it lasted. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Make no mistake: after the starvation begins, if you are actually fine, prepare for our artillery. And by "prepare" I mean "get fucked by".

      Captcha: invoke

  2. One Asphalt, One People by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 0

    THE CREED (tm) of the PAVERS (traditional version)

    We believe in a completely Paved Earth.

                    Earth is cursed with trees, shrubs, grass,
                    and scurrying creatures. With every breath
                    We act to right this terrible wrong.

    We believe in The Plan (tm).

                    The Plan (tm) is the final word; it brings us
                    the knowledge of the twin pleasures:
                    Speed and Convenience.

    We believe food should be enjoyed.

                    "Nutrition" is an aberration of human nature.
                    The juicy Burger and hearty Beer are Our sacrament.

    We believe in the Depletion of scarce natural resources.

                    Some see the vessel as half full; others see it as
                    half-empty; We pour it out on the floor and laugh.

    We believe in a sky roiling with Smog.

                    The color blue should appear nowhere but the paint
                    on Our HyperCars (tm).

  3. Re:REPUBLICANS WILL DENY THE DIE OFFS, ETC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you surprised people want you to die?

  4. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by Mark+of+the+North · · Score: 4, Informative

    Where is this researcher asking for more research dollars? I'm not seeing it.

    I am seeing the part where he is asking for protections on the remaining wilderness areas. See like a good idea to avoid collapse of biological systems.

    Reading isn't as tough as you might think. But you don't get paid to read, just to comment. Is that correct, AC?

  5. I've heard this story before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The lorax

  6. All the leftists ordering on Amazon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Enrich Amazon, destroy The Amazon.

  7. IT is bad, but there is no money... by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 0
    I dont think there is any wilderness left in India. Even the protected lion sanctuaries have huge number of people living in them, driving mopeds and trucks...

    But which politician is going to protect animals over people? Even in a developed and educated country like America, being against "tree huggers" and Spotted-owl lovers gets lots of votes.

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    1. Re:IT is bad, but there is no money... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This problem has a horrifying solution, but I fear it is the one we're headed to. Ever seen what caged rats will do to each other when they hit their critical point of overcrowding? There's plenty of spots in the world where its going to either come to this, or war with their neighbors.

    2. Re:IT is bad, but there is no money... by SqueakyMouse · · Score: 1

      Ever seen what caged rats will do to each other when they hit their critical point of overcrowding?

      Is it engage in intelligent discourse to arrive at a solution which alleviates the problem for future generations, with each rat selflessly playing its part? Yes, it's probably this. Let's learn from caged rats, everybody!

    3. Re:IT is bad, but there is no money... by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Yes because of the enormous cognitive dissonance of members of our two political parties. You have the mainstream political right in this country that wants to build pipelines thru the few large unspoiled sections of forests that remain east of the Mississippi; and anywhere else. Not to mention develop, develop, develop.

      And you have the political left; which wants to keep growing our population which would be nearly stable if it was not for immigration by opening the door to literally everyone!

      If you care and know anything at all about conservation you know the problem is always the number of people. Every other policy choice is a rounding error. If you look at American demographics you know there is once source of population growth - immigrants. Anyone who wants their grand kids to enjoy a country that looks like the one they were raised in; that has forests and wild life should be in favor of closing the f'ing boarders.

      Until the left comes to their senses and stops its embrace of the most environmentally destructive thing they can do to the nation I live in; I have little patients for listing to why I pay double for everything because of carbon or give up beef.

      Nationalism and Populism are the paths forward if you want to save America and not end up living in fifthly hell hole. Anyone who says different is misinformed or a liar.

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  8. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Blah blah blah I'm just another worthless anonymous keyboard warrior who think I know more from living in my mother's basement and watching youtube videos every fucking minute of my miserable empty life than all those scientists who studied years and worked decades in numerous fields of science.

  9. For every fearmongering bs story i see. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I go burn another tire with some used motor oil...

  10. Re:And? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even if there is hypocrisy, it doesn't disprove what is being said.

  11. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 0

    My usual comment regarding ANONYMOUS CHILD MOLESTERS applies here. Please shut the fuck up if you aren't willing to speak under your name. Oh, that's right, your name is Chester the Molester!

  12. Re: Blah blah the sky is falling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, you moron, everyone who says something you donâ(TM)t agree with is a paid shill. You imbecile. You obtuse buffoon.

  13. Re:And? by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 0

    Anonymous Child Molesters like yourself should shut the fuck up until you pay penance for all the children you've molested anonymously.

  14. 77% seems kind of high. by Icegryphon · · Score: 1

    We can still fit the entire population of the world in Texas giving them 981sq ft. Pretty impressive that we have managed to touch and/or effected 74,682,719 sq miles of land. Pretty amazing numbers we are putting up.

    1. Re:77% seems kind of high. by mikael · · Score: 1

      Much of that land will be farms and ranches. One farmhouse has five or six large fields. Then several dozen farms will have a village. A half-dozen villages will have a market town. Market towns surround a city. Then those cities will have one capitol city. All of those will be connected by roads, trains, canals. Add some hydroelectric dams, reservoirs and national parks, military test zones, and every square mile of land is accounted for.

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    2. Re:77% seems kind of high. by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Pretty impressive that we have managed to touch and/or effected 74,682,719 sq miles of land.

      Not terribly impressive. 7.6 billion people, 74.7 million square miles of land. Over 100 people per square mile....

      Which translates, more or less, as average distance between humans is only 590 feet (180 meters) over the entire land area of the planet....

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    3. Re:77% seems kind of high. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Add some hydroelectric dams, reservoirs and national parks, military test zones, and every square mile of land is accounted for.

      Those places sound great for the wildlife, even the military test zones. I've been on a few of those military test zones myself, and I have been warned to not shoot the wildlife during a live fire exercise.

      Just because land has had some human contact, even if the contact involved copper plated slugs at supersonic speed, doesn't not mean it is devoid of wildlife. In fact I've seen people take great care to protect the wildlife on the land they tend to, that includes US Army range safety officers.

    4. Re:77% seems kind of high. by Gilgaron · · Score: 2

      You can fit a lot of animals in the zoo but you can't grow their food in there too...

  15. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by wooferhound · · Score: 5, Informative

    In the late 1970's I visited Saint Andrews State park in Panama City Florida. Went snorkeling many times and was amazed at the amount of Color and Life that was there at the time.
    30 years later in 2003 I revisited the park for a Honeymoon. Once again I went snorkeling a few times and was amazed at how Gray and lifeless everything was.

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  16. The study, led by researchers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What fucking idiot doesn't know this already? It started millions of years ago dipstick.

  17. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you really that fucking stupid?

  18. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by DogDude · · Score: 1

    "Oh no, I can't drive a smaller car to help save the biology of this entire planet. My stupid, selfish, fat ass won't fit."

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  19. good point! by DogDude · · Score: 0

    Oh, boy, that's such a good point! You're really a thoughtful, intelligent person. You sure do have it all figured out, you selfish asshole.

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    1. Re:good point! by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I do have it figured out.

  20. They'll learn the hard way by DogDude · · Score: 1

    Well, those short-sighted, selfish asshole are going to learn the hard way, then, aren't they?

    I'm glad I don't have kids. The world's largest ecosystems are currently collapsing at an unheard of rate, and it doesn't even warrant a "like" on the click click thing. Humanity's fucked.

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    1. Re:They'll learn the hard way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at this entitled first world jackass who is so pissed off at everyone else's selfishness but his own. He must be posting all these rants on his sustainable bamboo PC which is powered solely on self-righteousness.

    2. Re:They'll learn the hard way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look, man, we're all way too busy trying to figure out who fucked who, or who gave a blowjob to who, or who accidentally brushed against someone's breast or butt thirty years ago against their will. There's no fucking time to worry about collapsing ecosystems when there's the possibility that someone may have been naughty in a disapproved way. Get your priorities straight!

  21. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I can't decide if this is a flawless rebuttal or curiously-specific projection.

  22. "Wild" does not equal "better" by blindseer · · Score: 1

    What's the problem they are pointing out? That humans are changing the planet too much? I've seen what happens when humans change the planet, they turn deserts to fruitful soil. I don't see that as a bad thing.

    This is just a bunch of hatred on humanity. If the impact of humans on the planet bother you so much then don't breed. I'd suggest going further but I wouldn't wish death on anyone, even self hating idiots that would like to impose misery on their fellow humans to save the wilderness.

    You know who does the best on saving the wildlife? Hunters. Licensed hunting has done more to save the wildlife than these self hating fools. You know who has done the most in turning sand to soil? Farmers. You know who has done the most to keep trees growing? Loggers. Who has done the most to maintain the fish populations? Fishermen. People in business collecting the world's resources will fight for making sure that there are resources to collect. Setting them off limits makes them worthless and therefore no one has any interest to preserve it.

    Making the wilderness off limits to law abiding humans only opens it up poaching, littering, and all kinds of criminal behavior by the not so law abiding humans. We've seen this happen, don't make history repeat because of your ignorance of it.

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    1. Re:"Wild" does not equal "better" by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      That isn't true. For example, farmland isn't fruitful soil. It is a desert enhanced by fertilizers. If you abandoned it, the soil would blow away quickly.

    2. Re:"Wild" does not equal "better" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But we need to convert all the land to farmland to support our new vegan way of life. Won't someone think of the animals!

    3. Re:"Wild" does not equal "better" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This point is so true, human's rarely create long term viable ecosystems, we create curated gardens that will die shortly after the curator is gone. The curated gardens fool people into thinking everything is ok because look green stuff!

  23. Re:And? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gerald Edward Butler was arrested in 2014 for having sex with a horse.

    And he wasn't "giving".

  24. Re:And? by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

    It is kind of like Elon Musk claiming that he is "green" but he has a 30,000 sqft house in California and several vacation homes and several private jets. Pathetic.

  25. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gawd sakes Bosco, chase the nibbers and migrants outa town. Send 'em to Bwannaville. Two-child-per-family whites will maintain and improve the park. EOF.

  26. Wow. by fredrated · · Score: 1

    We have now almost completely consumed the systems that give us life.

    1. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In near future you will need to provide almost everything for your self to survive since people are forgetting that we are flying a big spaceship :)

  27. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The fault is with you. People going off and enjoying nature also destroys it.

    Will we eat our cake, or will we have it? You made your choice decades ago.

  28. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, its projection. He's not even "Gerald Butler" - that's just some guy he's trying to frame. He even posted an address for the guy a couple of days ago. Whoever this guy is, he's got a major grudge against the real Gerald.

  29. Re:And? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Linky?

  30. No one listens to scientists... till it's to late by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mankind has learnt nothing in the last 1000 years....

  31. stone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's overpopulation uber alles. Put it on your extinction R.I.P. You're just zombies now, waiting for the coup de grace.

  32. i heard the same thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ....but on the other hand, i also heard that Bob Saget raped and killed a girl in 1990.

  33. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    But you don't get paid to read, just to comment. Is that correct, AC?

    As I like pointing out on Slashdot. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a shill. Some people are genuinely stupid.

  34. Humanity is a virus. by dschiptsov · · Score: 1

    There is no solution for this. All the politicians in all countries want growth. Growth is incompatible with wildlife. It is growth or wild life. You don't have to hold degree in poly Math to see who will win. From the point of view of The Rest Of Nature humanity is a virus.

    1. Re: Humanity is a virus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      âoeItâ(TM)s our turn now, humanity is the problem and we are the cureâ
      - Agent Smith

    2. Re:Humanity is a virus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You got it right - it's all about expansion, the damn capitalistic system is based on expansion, everything is about make bigger, if we don't stop I'm assuming Earth spaceship will have major problem with life support systems.. problem is almost everyone is corrupted in one or another way and the damn system is not helping either but if this is a simulation then what, horrible future way of life and then simulation will just collapse or reboot will be initiated. Either way west uses too much and the east is pushing to do the same, good luck with that..

  35. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, he may have written a paper saying something along the lines of "more research is required" in the conclusions section.

    Of course, so does every single scientific paper published in the last 70 years. It's boilerplate. In fact, someone taking note of it and thinking it means something (e.g. "That study saying vaccines are safe also says 'more research is required!") is dead giveaway the person in question doesn't know how to read a scientific paper.

  36. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 1

    Stop sucking your own dick!

  37. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If people can't enjoy nature they will never understand exactly how amazing, important and beautiful nature is. We need to teach everyone how to respect the environment every day, every where while carving out special places needing special care. Humanity needs the same respect, fear and awe of nature now as when we lived much closer to it because its just as crucial to our survival now as it was then.

  38. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And the projection from mr stolen valor continues.

  39. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only way this could stop (destruction of natural habitats) is in general populace control basically less people, I'm not saying start killing us just don't multiply like rabbits.

  40. Re:And? by sexconker · · Score: 1

    It's not about disproving it, it's about pointing out that this guy should put his money where his mouth is, instead of trying to tell OTHER PEOPLE what to do.

  41. Re:And? by sexconker · · Score: 0

    Also known as: Hypocrisy, lies, and manipulation.

    But hey - complaints about trickle down economics are just "whataboutism"! When another country points to US emissions, that's "whataboutism"!! When someone points to some terrible thing you're doing, just scream "WHATABOUTISM!!!" to totally deflect! It works every time!

  42. Re:Blah blah the sky is falling by JeffAtl · · Score: 1

    What do you chalk this up to though? In the States, most areas now have much less pollution than they did in the 1970s. (The Mississippi dead-zone is a notable exception)

    Perhaps there was a storm before you got there that stirred up the water?

  43. Re:And? by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1

    You've just invented meta-whataboutism.

  44. "... at the same pace as ..." = unlikely by fygment · · Score: 1

    The pace won't be the same because:
    a) easily/moderately accessible resources are pretty much being exploited therefore $$$ will temper further exploitation
    b) farms/cities can't be built just anywhere and already exist anywhere that is easily/moderately feasible.
    Bottom line: nothing increases linearly forever. A scientist should know that. There will be a plateau and we've likely reached it.
    Instead think: it is cheaper to increase efficiency of resource use and higher densities of habitation.

    Epilogue: this sort of 'science' means well (maybe) but only makes people doubt scientists in the long run.

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