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Twitter Deletes Over 10,000 Bots That Discouraged US Midterm Voting (cnn.com)
Twitter has deleted over 10,000 disinformation bots discouraging Americans from voting in Tuesday's midterm elections.
An anonymous reader quotes CNN: Twitter said that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee had brought the accounts to their attention. "For the election this year we have established open lines of communication and direct, easy escalation paths for state election officials, DHS, and campaign organizations from both major parties," the spokesperson said. The company said it believes the network of accounts was run from the United States.
The 10,000 accounts were deleted in late September and early October, Reuters reports: The number is modest, considering that Twitter has previously deleted millions of accounts it determined were responsible for spreading misinformation in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Yet the removals represent an early win for a fledgling effort... The DCCC launched the effort this year in response to the party's inability to respond to millions of accounts on Twitter and other social media platforms that spread negative and false information about Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and other party candidates in 2016, three people familiar with the operation told Reuters... The DCCC developed its own system for identifying and reporting malicious automated accounts on social media, according to the three party sources.
An anonymous reader quotes CNN: Twitter said that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee had brought the accounts to their attention. "For the election this year we have established open lines of communication and direct, easy escalation paths for state election officials, DHS, and campaign organizations from both major parties," the spokesperson said. The company said it believes the network of accounts was run from the United States.
The 10,000 accounts were deleted in late September and early October, Reuters reports: The number is modest, considering that Twitter has previously deleted millions of accounts it determined were responsible for spreading misinformation in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Yet the removals represent an early win for a fledgling effort... The DCCC launched the effort this year in response to the party's inability to respond to millions of accounts on Twitter and other social media platforms that spread negative and false information about Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and other party candidates in 2016, three people familiar with the operation told Reuters... The DCCC developed its own system for identifying and reporting malicious automated accounts on social media, according to the three party sources.
Everybody owes me a platform, waaah waaaah waaaah!
Signed,
The Party of Personal Responsibility
All of Twitter users are bots that spout the same useless information they seem to have been preprogrammed to spout.
Everybody owes me healthcare/college/housing... whoops... wait, wrong side ;D
Since Twitter now needs phone numbers as an anti bot measure, trace the companies giving out phone numbers to bots.
The number is modest, considering that Twitter has previously deleted millions of accounts it determined were responsible for spreading misinformation in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.
You mean how Twitter admitted under oath to suppressing #DNCLeak during the election campaign?
That was simply suppression of news that made Democrats look horrible, not misinformation.
Shut up and bake the cake!
twatter is cesspool full of lies.
The party of "science is fake but QAnon is real" sure is in a great position to mock safe spaces, huh.
Twitter is pointless. Stop wasting your time. Make up your own mind. Don't be programmed by others with an agenda and an axe to grind.
I agree. plenty of idiocy on both sides. Both are enemies of freedom.
The Party of Personal Responsibility
But NOT voting IS voting AGAINST voting...
In my country Greece (yes, the birthplace of democracy...) i can think at least 2 groups of people that are ideologicaly against voting: most Anarchists, and some Christians - plus those who can't find someone worthy so they don't legalize with their vote anyone.
i read this "[...] disinformation bots discouraging Americans from voting [...]" and i wonder if my comment is "disinformation"!?
The cake is a lie!
For this reason, God sends them a powerful delusion(operation of wandering)(planet) so that they will believe the lie.
Interesting how I don't read too many stories about Republicans trying to register illegal aliens and dead people to vote yet every 2 years it happens in Chicago, California, Detroit. Legit question for you AC- are there any legit reasons to try to suppress voter fraud? And I mean the real fraud committed by people, not the mysterious claims of machines miscounting their votes.
But....I am a busy person. I have better things to do than make a microscopic drop-in-the-bucket contribution to a decision about which corrupt aristocrat betrays me.
Maybe, once I am retired, and have nothing better to do than follow politics, and have a direct incentive to protect my medical benefits, social security payments, and property value, maybe then I will vote.
Until then, the difference I make by voting (rounds down to zero) just isn't worth the effort it takes.
Yes, I know "if everyone thought that way..." I KNOW. That doesn't change my incentives *at all*. And not everyone thinks that way, so the point is moot.
There is no cake. It is only your mind.
The North Dakota Democratic Party posted a misleading ad on its website and on Facebook that suggests state residents should reconsider voting in this yearâ(TM)s election if they have hunting licenses in other states. âoeBy voting in North Dakota, you could forfeit your hunting licenses.â - posted on the Democratic partyâ(TM)s website this week.
https://www.apnews.com/f547f02...
The North Dakota Democraticâ"Nonpartisan League Party is running a Facebook ad in North Dakota that claims your hunting license is at risk. "Attention hunters: Voting in North Dakota could cost you your out-of-state hunting licenses," says the Facebook ad, which began running on Nov. 1.
https://www.politifact.com/tru...
The Facebook ad, paid by the North Dakota Democratic-NPL, warns North Dakota hunters that they may have to forfeit their out-of-state licenses if they vote in this election. âoeIf you want to keep your out-of-state hunting licenses, you may not want to vote in North Dakota,â the ad says, linking to a similar warning on the North Dakota Democratic-NPL website. âoeBy voting in North Dakota, you could forfeit your hunting licenses. You MUST be a resident of North Dakota to vote here. And if you are a resident of North Dakota, you may lose hunting licenses you have in other states,â the website said.
https://www.foxnews.com/politi...
With a byline like If you have reservations, vote Democratic, vote third party, or stay home in the 2018 midterm elections , I would hope the USA Today twitter account was also deleted (not holding my breath).
Your claims are so false, it's actually more illustrative to link a Google search instead of any one Snopes page https://www.google.com/search?q=snopes+illegal+voting&oq=snopes+illegal+voting&aqs=chrome..69i57.6253j1j7&client=ms-unknown&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
It's about knowing who you are.
The powers that be cannot abide anonymity.
How many ESL AC posts about how voting is pointless are in this thread. I count 3 as of this post.
Yeah, duh, here's no voter fraud happening!
This bots stuff is bullshit in all sides. If you are civic minded and have thought about the good of the community state and country then you donâ(TM)t need to be told to vote nor will bots detract you. If you donâ(TM)t follow public affairs in any way then itâ(TM)s probably best that you donâ(TM)t vote. If you want to vote, learn about the candidates and show up at the polling place. The bots are a pointless distraction.
Let's make sure those luxuries are only attainable by the wealthy elites the way Jesus wants it.
The number of people on voter rolls doesn't change anything, and meatbag impersonation is ineffective and stupidly easy to catch, which is why it's so rare. There are TONS of ACTUAL problems with our electoral system, the chief of which is that we have a system that protects the two party system, but I haven't seen the GOP ever offer a solution to a problem that exists in the real world.
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Interesting how I don't read too many stories about Republicans trying to register illegal aliens and dead people to vote yet every 2 years it happens in Chicago, California, Detroit.
Funny how you don't read stories like this one then.
Meanwhile, your claims of dead people being registered to vote are as bogus as the claims about busloads of illegal voters.
How do we know? Because we found out they lived.
Legit question for you AC- are there any legit reasons to try to suppress voter fraud? And I mean the real fraud committed by people, not the mysterious claims of machines miscounting their votes.
Flawed vote counting is actually a good concern. Why exclude it?
But here's your problem. They aren't trying to suppress voter fraud. By their own documented admission, they are trying to gain partisan advantages by suppressing the actual voter participation.
A common theme in American history. And all the false hysteria that are the mantra of the Kobach's and O'Keefe's of the world only further serves to weigh against the GOP.
"DEMOCRATS" didn't "suppress" TWITTER, you FUCKING NAZI MORON. TWITTER did. You're so stupid and loosely accusatory you could be the next Republican nominee.
It's even more interesting that you actually believe those stories, but then again you guys aren't exactly known for your critical thinking skills. It's not wholly your fault, mind, you're just another victim of your party's decades-long battle to neuter education in this country.
Trump has used Twitter to launch hundreds of hurtful attacks.
Don't like it?
Boycott Twitter, and Fox News.
https://www.youtube.com/c/BrendaEM
going on this year. If you can't win, cheat. It works.
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by illegally bussing in voters to vote for them,
Please cite which laws forbid bussing voters.
by refusing simple voting integrity checks,
Simple checks like the ones by Republicans that keep producing errors like being unable to tell that two different people are named James R. Smith?
by refusing to allow the removal of illegal voters from the voting roles.
You mean refusing the attempts that are flawed because they keep trying to remove actual legal voters who suddenly find themselves having to prove the government made a mistake?
In the little over an hour since this story about trolls being removed from Twitter was posted, 34 of the 38 comments posted here were from anonymous cowards, and most of those were trolling, with comments like, "only n i g g e r s use Twitter" and "go choke yourself" and "it's an attack against conservatives" and how "the bots stuff is bullshit".
I count five making the case for not voting and three others making the "both sides are trash" argument (which is also a case against voting).
You don't have to go to Twitter to see this effect in action. The problem is, it's not working as well this time around.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Interesting how all the voter supression and election fraud comes from the Republicans.
Nope. According to The New York Times,
The North Dakota Democratic Party posted a misleading ad on its website and on Facebook that suggests state residents should reconsider voting in this year's election if they have hunting licenses in other states.
. . .
A look at the North Dakota Democratic-NPL Party's claim:
CLAIM: "By voting in North Dakota, you could forfeit your hunting licenses." - posted on the Democratic party's website this week.
THE FACTS: The ad is false.
Let's make sure those luxuries are only attainable by the wealthy elites the way Jesus wants it.
Or those who are willing to get off their lazy fucking ass and work for it, as the 21st Century you live in demands.
Enough ass-grabbing of history as if it's relevant today. I don't give a shit how cheap your grandfather's college costs were, and neither does a current or future employer.
Some of my best friends friends are Zombie-Americans (but they prefer to be called the living impaired).
Seriously though, Voter fraud is a red herring to distract from Voter Suppression. Jury Duty, Voting on Tuesday, disenfranchising felons (and making it impossible for them to get their rights back), the constant voter roll purges (targeted at left leaning voters) and my personal favorite stationing armed police in riot gear outside polls in predominately black neighborhoods to "keep order". Heck, there's been a few instances of people being prosecuted and jailed for "voter fraud" because they helped an elderly relative who couldn't see vote, which is in itself suppression (don't vote or we'll throw you in prison).
This stuff works, especially in a country with such slim margins of victory. Trump one the Whitehouse by a few hundred thousand votes.
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Get your own platform, they said.
If video games influenced behavior the Pac Man generation would be eating pills and running away from their problems.
"Why do you think Democrats inflate the number registered voters" - PROVE IT YOU LYING NAZI FAGGOT, your bitch lipped WORD is worth NOTHING, you CUNTY LYING NAZI FAGGOT.
...Can I call you both idiots?
Let's ban everything that I don't agree with!
Just because the Democrats scream "Bots!" and "Russians!" all day doesn't make it true.
Yea right, the word-mincers at Snopes ... might as well ask the Democrats directly if they committed fraud.
"There is no illegal voting because we don't call it "illegal". Checkmate Republicans!"
Nobody has to agree to host your racist bullshit, loser.
I I'm not a bot, I think...
The biggest voter suppression is coming from the Democrats: by nominating complete dumpster fires for high office.
FTFY. Who the fuck wouldn't stay home, given the "candidates" they're pushing?
My settings render them mostly invisible, so I can't count them, and I sort of resent the time wasted by references to and citations of the invisible trolls, whether or not they are zombies. This whole AC thing has become an abuse of anonymity. There should be a simple option: "By default my comments are AC (or not)" and you should retain the option to override. Only a slight extension from the current situation, which pushes the "not" on people who might feel otherwise in this age of privacy intrusions.
Me? I think the only justification for anonymity is prior anonymity. For example, you wouldn't need to worry about being called out as a whistle-blower if the person and crimes you were blowing the whistle on were already known in public.
Most of the trolls are merely abusing our human tendency to be polite to strangers. There are evolutionary reasons why we are that way, but it seems our evolutionary weaknesses are on the edge of destroying our civilization. Thus endeth the Fermi Paradox.
I think the general solution [Gads, what fool thinks of discussing "solution" on today's Slashdot?] remains a stronger reputation system so that we don't have to waste so much time figuring out who is worth listening to. In other words, the time should be spent for the listening to, not for the figuring out.
I've already spent too much time on this comment. The story is about Twitter and Twitter is fundamentally FUBAR, but I bid you ADSAuPR, atAJG.
Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
they are trying to gain partisan advantages [..] false hysteria
You mean like this?
"The Texas Democratic Party asked non-citizens to register to vote, sending out applications to immigrants with the box citizenship already checked "Yes," according to new complaints filed Thursday asking prosecutors to see what laws may have been broken.
The Public Interest Legal Foundation alerted district attorneys and the federal Justice Department to the pre-checked applications, and also included a signed affidavit from a man who said some of his relatives, who aren't citizens, received the mailing."
"The applications were pre-addressed to elections officials, which is likely what left many voters to believe they were receiving an official communication from the state.
But the return address was from the State Democratic Executive Committee, and listed an address in Austin that matches the state Democratic Party's headquarters.
The letter is emblazoned with "Urgent! Your voter registration deadline is October 9." It continues: "Your voter registration application is inside. Complete, sign and return it today!"
On the application, boxes affirming the applicant is both 18 and a U.S. citizen are already checked with an "X" in the Yes field.
The mailing also urges those who are unsure if they're registered to "Mail it in.""
People like Raenex think people who chant "Jews will not replace us" and "blood and soil" and mail pipe bombs to political opponents, and harangue people who use pizza emojis because only pedophiles use pizza emojis apparently, are a protected class unto themselves, which is why conservatives are now regarded as a laughingstock and being run out of town on a rail everywhere they go.
Let's see a more balanced version of the story (ever since reporters at the Washington Times called me an idiot for supporting Obamacare, I have dismissed them as angry, hateful partisan hacks):
I mean, sure if you think all brown-skinned people don't have a right to vote, you will think that any drive to try and get them to register to vote is "encouraging illegal voting".
Not entirely false. I do RTFA, and, yes, the article makes it clear people with lower cost resident hunter licenses in other states can lost their licenses if they vote in North Dakota:
OK, I get it if some people can be mislead by a bot saying "Senator Bedfellow eats babies" but how does one get fooled into not voting by a bot saying "only idiots vote, just don't do it..." ?
Kill the Satanic monster who feeds on Russian babies!
get a room, you two!
that is complete bullshit.
I am not going to waste any time refuting the rest of your Gish gallop. Your claim that illegal voters were bused in has no basis in fact, so you obviously have no concern about objective truth or fact.
I appreciate the "more balanced" source, because:
1) It does not dispute the facts, the main point being it pre-cheked the citizen box.
2) It includes an admission from the Democrats that they intentionally did this to go after a "diverse and rising electorate".
Ergo, they targeted a population rife with illegal immigrants, and encouraged them to register.. It's official: Democrats are the party of illegal immigration.
Twitter should create a website, where they list each account, and each message from each account. So that people can check out what propaganda messages have been sent out.
Twitter, Facebook, and social networking in general are the end of human civilization. We would do so much better completely banning social networks. Plus, that would also mean we would never hear from President Trump again.
Why don't you actually look at Trump for once and see the mountain of frauds he's built on, and realize the entire election is basically whether or not his fraud is held accountable, because this GOP is covering up for him?
YOU ARE THE FRAUD MORON, PAY ATTENTION.
There have been several Gubernatorial and National elections in the last 20 years decided by less than 300 votes. Seems that you like vote fraud that changes the results of the election.
One out of 1,966. That's a failure rate of .05%, never knew government could be so efficient.
I guess I could add this, California's DMV finds an additional 1,500 people wrongly registered to vote
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-dmv-more-voter-registration-errors-20181008-story.html
and this where Texas Democrats sent prefilled registration form to non-citizens.
https://www.apnews.com/603bb76f69079a9269e46335638d3e1e
in finding that last article I found out that Texas had a similar DMV problem in 2015
https://dailycaller.com/2015/04/08/former-doj-official-non-citizens-registered-to-vote-through-motor-voter-registration-forms/
This is a link to Dick Meyer Twitter account
https://twitter.com/DickMeyer_DC
His account is active and he wrote an article for USA Today on Oct. 23, 2018, titled "Dear concerned Semi-Trumpers, please resist a little and vote for Democrats in midterms."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/23/concerned-trump-voters-choose-democrats-third-party-stay-home-column/1669812002/
In the subheadline he writes, "vote Democratic, vote third party, or stay home in the 2018 midterm elections."
He concludes his article with " I’d say it’s better to stay home on Election Day than veto your reservations about Donald Trump and his presidency."
Please tell me how the DCCC is an unbiased source for this?
Everybody owes me a living and a safespace from opinion I don't agree with, waah waaaah waaaah!
Look you Anonymous Coward Trump voter, your dear leader has already told you the USA owes you your coal mining job, so stop whining.
Now go back to your FOX NEWS safe space and get off the internet where you might hear opposing views, you conservative snowflake.
the results are already rigged in at least a dozen 'must win' (for either party) states... and not for the good guys.
What vote are they supposed to be suppressing by posting that on their own website? Interstate-hunting democrats?
It is a valid philosophical standpoint to argue against the value of democracy as a system of government.
The above AC's post is EXACTLY the kind of crap meme that gets spread around to discourage voting.
The science of 57 genders sure is fake science.
Yeah and for some goddamn reason the Republicans haven't been able to JACK SHIT to curb illegal immigration despite having several opportunities over the years to do so.
Republican majority in House? Check.
Republican majority in Senate? Check.
Republican president? Check.
And not a single comprehensive immigration reform law has been passed.
Orange Man Bad!!
You need 60 votes to break a filibuster on an immigration bill. The Democrats have gone all-in as the party of illegal immigration.
Donald Trump left a DEUCE in my SHOE!!
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spread negative and false information
Please enable that filter globally.
90% of politicians messages will be instantly silenced. Negative and false information, about ones opponent, about opposing ideas, and about the current state of the world (to justify your new pet law) is the modus operandi of politics.
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I hate to disagree with you here, but the Republicans controlling the senate can kill the filabuster any time they want. Had I been in charge of the senate the first thing I would have done was kill the closure requirement. The Democrats did it to get there way when they controlled the senate and actions should have consequences. When the Democrats decided to overturn Senate rules that had existed since the time of Jefferson because they couldn't get their way why should the Republicans continue to operate with one hand tied behind their backs?
The only answer is that they don't really want to engender change and fix problems. They want to keep the issues alive as voting issues just like the Democrats. To quote a Dead White Guy, "A plague on both your houses."
Keeping nibbers away from voting machines is like keeping women away from chocolate boxes.
were telling Republicans to vote for Libertarian candidates? (clearly a ploy to split the non-Democrat vote)
or
the ones that told hunters that if they voted in these midterms, they would lose their hunting licenses? (clearly a ploy to suppress the votes of gun owners)
yeah, thought not.
Posting the same reply I gave you last time you linked the same article, which you didn't answer.
It didn't merit an answer. "Automated System" is just an obvious attempt to dodge responsibility for the censorship (i.e. suppression of the hashtag), like when Youtube claims "the algorithm did it." It'll mean the same thing (i.e. nothing) when they switch to saying "the AI did it."
Their other excuse of "potential Russian links" is the same sad cover story the media desperately used in a (failed) attempt to stop people from paying attention to the content of the leak.
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I guess you're talking about the "nuclear option" that the Democrats used to appoint judges. The Republicans returned the favor with the Supreme Court nomination.
As for completely ending the filibuster, maybe their ulterior motive is to keep voting issues alive, or maybe they like keeping the majority party in check via tradition. Not being privy to their thoughts or private conversations, I don't know what their thinking is, but I tend to agree, I'd be inclined to end the filibuster too.
That said, even without a filibuster, there is a problem with getting a sane immigration policy because there's a certain percentage of Republicans (like Paul Ryan) that are soft on immigration. That puts a tarnish on Republicans, but compared to the Democrats it's night and day.
"Twitter said that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee had brought the accounts to their attention."
Would they have jumped as quickly if the RNC had brought 10,000 accounts to their attention? Or would we be reading about how the RNC tried to get Twitter to censor accounts of well-meaning woke robots?
I hope your name is PopeRatzo.
"Twitter said that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee had brought the accounts to their attention. ".
There is no way to read this article that does not imply that the Democrats asked Twitter to suppress a select list of accounts, just in time to influence the midterm elections; and Twitter obeyed. Anyone who argues otherwise is simply being disingenuous.
International Socialism, which is both the political philosophy and the religion of the Democratic Party, explicitly endorses government/industry partnerships ("crony capitalism"), in which the government supports and protects corporations that support and protect the socialist party. This is why big companies, like Google, Facebook, etc, support International Socialism - because the Democrats will protect their monopoly positions, as long as they publicly and privately support whatever goals the Democrats set for them. International Socialism is not Communism; International Socialism, like National Socialism before it, actually accepts and encourages monopoly capitalism, so long as the capitalists ensure that their corporations subordinate to the will of the party.
if you believe in International Socialism, particularly with religious fervor, then the fact that the tech giants are actively engaged in swaying elections is a good thing... as is voting fraud, fake news, and anything else required to end this democratic tyranny of the proletariat and put the priestly elites back in charge.
Look you Anonymous Coward Trump voter, your dear leader has already told you the USA owes you your coal mining job, so stop whining.
Right. The only thing the USA owes you is healthcare, education, and the right to free tampons. A JOB? What sort of fool would want that?
it's too obvious when you swing an election that way. The exit polls don't match and, well, we've got decades of statistics on exit polls and we know how they should match (e.g. even if they don't match exactly we know roughly by how much they should be off, meaning if you' cheat that way to swing an election you're probably getting caught).
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Dems will take your money, your guns and your speech. Then the Reps come take away social services, expand surveillance and give tax breaks to their friends. When you're barefoot and broke the reps will make it illegal. So vote early and often, just for 3rd parties and FOR actual candidates, not stupid "sports" teams.
He spouted unapproved opinions that had to be silenced.
why do you call him socialist (NAZI)?
Or are you really thinking, that he or she is a national socialist?
Actually, only one of those is regularly considered a state duty.
Raenex, stop posting. Your redundant links only emphasize your practice of deceit.
The Texas Democratic Party sent a mass mailing. Big whup. That just means they wasted their money.
Meanwhile Kris Konach failed thousands of times with his voter purges that swept up actual legit voters. That means he violated the law and wasted the state's money. So badly he was ordered to fix his own incompetence.
They've already been caught bussing in voters during early voting. This is very real and very scary.
You're scared by the entirely legal use of mass transportation? And they were caught by their own announcements of the action?
Try to get in touch with reality.
Seriously, Raenex, you are outraged over the chartering of buses.
How stupid a complaint is that?
Get your own platform, they said.
The democrats, progressives and authoritarians believe that this is a good idea, that it absolutely will never be used against them either. And of course, this absolutely doesn't disprove the point that there's a group of people out there who are acting in a conspiratorial manner to silence speech.
Not at all.
Om, nomnomnom...
Pie R round, not square
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Another fuckface who has no understanding of science
see yourself out little limp-dicked person
You're just upset your whole worldview is trash and people are calling you out on it.
Grow a pair you tiny-dicked incel