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Apple's First 5G iPhone Will Arrive In 2020, Says Report (fastcompany.com)
Fast Company reports that Apple is working on a 5G iPhone that will come to market in 2020, according to a source familiar with the matter. From the report: Apple plans to use Intel's 8161 5G modem chip in its 2020 phones. Intel hopes to fabricate the 8161 using its 10-nanometer process, which increases transistor density for more speed and efficiency. If everything goes as planned, Intel will be the sole provider of iPhone modems. Intel has been working on a precursor to the 8161 called the 8060, which will be used for prototyping and testing the 5G iPhone.
Apple, our source says, has been unhappy with Intel lately. The most likely reason relates to the challenge of solving heat dissipation issues caused by the 8060 modem chip. Many wireless carriers, including Verizon and AT&T in the U.S., will initially rely on millimeter-wave spectrum (between 28 gigahertz and 39 Ghz) to connect the first 5G phones. But millimeter-wave signal requires some heavy lifting from the modem chips and RF chains, our source explains. This causes the release of higher-than-normal levels of thermal energy inside the phone -- so much so that the heat can be felt on the outside of the phone. The problem also affects battery life. The alternative is for Apple to source its modems from Qualcomm, but Fast Company's source "says Apple's current issues with Intel are not serious enough to cause Apple to reopen conversations with Qualcomm." Also, Qualcomm's X50 modem has heat dissipation issues of its own. MediaTek is reportedly a distant "Plan B."
Apple, our source says, has been unhappy with Intel lately. The most likely reason relates to the challenge of solving heat dissipation issues caused by the 8060 modem chip. Many wireless carriers, including Verizon and AT&T in the U.S., will initially rely on millimeter-wave spectrum (between 28 gigahertz and 39 Ghz) to connect the first 5G phones. But millimeter-wave signal requires some heavy lifting from the modem chips and RF chains, our source explains. This causes the release of higher-than-normal levels of thermal energy inside the phone -- so much so that the heat can be felt on the outside of the phone. The problem also affects battery life. The alternative is for Apple to source its modems from Qualcomm, but Fast Company's source "says Apple's current issues with Intel are not serious enough to cause Apple to reopen conversations with Qualcomm." Also, Qualcomm's X50 modem has heat dissipation issues of its own. MediaTek is reportedly a distant "Plan B."
This time, Jobs can't save them again.
They're already in the process of being ruined by the standard issue management grease rags.
And by then, providers are going to be on 7G.
But the iDiots will be ponying up $2,000 for the iPhone xTra Massively Kool.
I've been a fan of their computers since 1981 (well, not so much the mid to late 90s crap), but this consumeristic strategy is getting a bit old.
This is typical of Apple's innovation :
"Third-party partners fall in line with our fashion requirements for ultra thin accessories or we'll drop your lucrative contracts."
There's nothing wrong with that, but it's not exactly lighting the world on fire as the cult would have you believe.
You lose again, m'bitch.
"If me tell someone me idea, 'ow does I know they ain't gonna nick it?"
"Um, that's tough, they usually do."
"'cause, like, when the Playstation 1 came out, me was tellin' me Julie; what would be wicked would be if they brought out something that was better than this! And then 2 years later what come out? Playstation 2! 'ow does you think they got the idea from me?"
"Maybe Julie told them, I don't know..."
-- Ali G
Trump will use android. The prisoners choice of phone.
will be used for buying a 5G phone?
Too big to put in your anus.
In theory, highest frequencies imply highest dissipation unless that lowest voltages help to reduce the highest dissipation.
I'd insert a walled-garden joke here, rather than try to smuggle an XS MAX up my ass like Trump Jr. might...
5G will use spectrum in the existing LTE frequency range (600 MHz to 6 GHz) and also in millimeter wave bands (24–86 GHz). (Quote from a Google Search result.)
The lower frequency will be pretty good in terms of distance from phone to tower and building penetration. 6 GHz, not so much. I'm wondering if the highest frequencies will require a "tower" on each city block with an open window or an outside antenna to pick up 5g. Maybe the highest frequencies will be used for video programming, i.e., cable and satellite replacement TV.
Can someone comment on data throughput as a function of frequency. Do lower frequencies limit tower data rates?
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
Cellphones are more trouble than they're worth.
there is absolutely nothing in-between the antennas though.
At 86GHz, it won’t even work in the same room, most of the time, and you might as well just use some kind of IRDA.
Remember that thermal energy in a chip always comes from electrical energy and the Joule effect. If the modem overheats, it probably consumes too much power, impacting battery life.
Add another bigger notch.
The correct way to hold the phone has to be tested for this time.
Then staff have to draw the art to show how the phone should be held.
So the consumer can enjoy the speed of the connection.
Ensure PRISM v 2.0 is fully supported for more governments.
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
I’m mean seriously. It’s just one more than 4G, right?
Wait a sec... if Apple are releasing one in the next year or two, shouldn't we have had an Android phone with the same technology a few years ago? This news is very confusing.
Don't underestimate the power of n1gger faggot amalgamation.
Next year's $2,000 iJunk will sell like hot cakes (according to Tim Cocksucker).
I am building a 5G detector then, already have the pole.
Minor correction: A modem chip takes in digital data and converts it to a serial analog baseband data stream. Then a RF mixer up-converts the baseband analog spectrum up to RF frequencies, in this case REALLY high analog RF frequencies, like six times higher than a typical CPU clock rate. It's a bit of a stretch to call something that puts out 39GHz a "modem" chip.
My iPhone 6 is up by then. Now I have to save €2500,- to be able to buy the 5G phone...
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