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Oracle Says China Telecom Has Misdirected Internet Traffic, Including Out of the US, in Recent Years (zdnet.com)

Posted by msmash on from the stranger-things dept.

Oracle's Internet Intelligence division has confirmed today the findings of a recently published academic paper that accused China of "hijacking the vital internet backbone of western countries." From a report: The research paper was authored by researchers from the US Naval War College and Tel Aviv University and it made quite a few waves online after it was published. Researchers accused China Telecom, one of China's biggest state-owned internet service providers, of hijacking and detouring internet traffic through its normally-closed internet infrastructure. Some security experts contested the research paper's findings because it didn't come from an authoritative voice in the world of internet BGP hijacks, but also because the paper touched on many politically sensitive topics, such as China's cyber-espionage activities and how China used BGP hijacks as a way to circumvent the China-US cyber pact of 2015. But today, Doug Madory, Director of Oracle's Internet Analysis division (formerly Dyn), confirmed that China Telecom has, indeed, engaged in internet traffic "misdirection." "I don't intend to address the paper's claims around the motivations of these actions," said Madori. "However, there is truth to the assertion that China Telecom (whether intentionally or not) has misdirected internet traffic (including out of the United States) in recent years."

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  1. Source by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 5, Informative

    The actual research paper being discussed is here: https://scholarcommons.usf.edu...

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    http://www.geoffreylandis.com
  2. Lets build a new internet already by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm getting sick of this shit. The US and the EU should just make the old internet an overlay on a new internet, with new internet traffic having priority. Fuck the globalist fairy tales. We don't need to be trivially vulnerable to DDOS's (allow IP owners to send firewall rules upstream) we don't need foreign agents redirecting internal traffic ... we can fix this, we should have fixed this.

    Much like we should have told C programmers to take a long walk off a short peer the moment the inevitability of buffer overflows and use after free became clear, we should have started fixing the internet the moment it's ridiculous weaknesses to DDOS's and hijacks became clear. Yes the costs are huge ... but I'm pretty sure that by listening to the people who say there is no alternative because of those costs the economy has suffered criminal damages upward of a trillion dollar by now, time to stop listening.

    There is an alternative, it's not easy, it is necessary.

    1. Re:Lets build a new internet already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Much like we should have told C programmers to take a long walk off a short peer the moment the inevitability of buffer overflows and use after free became clear

      Son, you wouldn't have an internet, UNIX, Linux, or pretty much anything else interesting without C ... period.

      That nobody predicted the growth of the internet, or the security risks it would pose, is completely unsurprising to anybody with half a brain, which apparently you don't even qualify for.

      Don't go acting like a whiny punk if you couldn't do better and weren't there. I love you idiots who look back and think you could have done better.

    2. Re:Lets build a new internet already by DaMattster · · Score: 2

      Better yet, let's just do a wholesale block of all Chinese IP addresses. I do this for my servers.

    3. Re:Lets build a new internet already by fafalone · · Score: 2

      If the US and EU built a new internet today you can safely assume it would be designed from the ground up to make it much easier to monitor all your activities and impose direct government control and approval over content, and of course YouTube-style copyright tyranny for all. If you think it would look anything like the freer internet of days past, you've missed just how far authoritarian creep has gone.

  3. Pot and kettle, and all that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You're no better, America, and in no position to point fingers. And what's more, judging by what you've been up to in the world in the last 20 years, we should be far more afraid of you doing these things than China (as you claim).

  4. and th NSA was happy by spacepimp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    By allowing the data to flow out of the US they could spy on it all with slightly less violation of the constitutional rights of citizens. It is doubtful they were unaware of this occurrence and probably lauded the new signal to noise it provided.

  5. Re:How many ACTS OF WAR will it take? by ravenshrike · · Score: 2

    Hey now, we did plenty of the microplastics thing ourselves with plastic clothing that we then wash and tumble dry.

  6. Re:How many ACTS OF WAR will it take? by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 2

    Our leaders will stand up to Imperial China real soon now. Real soon.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/china-greenlights-large-batch-of-ivanka-trump-trademark-applications/2018/11/06/c085e88c-e1c8-11e8-a1c9-6afe99dddd92_story.html