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Samsung Will Put Notches On Its Future Phones (theverge.com)
Samsung is one of the biggest smartphone makers to hold off on releasing smartphones with display notches. But at the company's developer conference today, Samsung confirmed that it's soon going to join in on the trend. "A slide during the keynote showed several notch designs that are almost certainly coming to Samsung-branded devices in 2019 and beyond," reports The Verge. From the report: Hassan Anjum, a director of product marketing at Samsung, took the stage to highlight Samsung's previous breakthroughs in reducing bezels and maximizing display size year after year. "We're going to keep going. The bezels are going to shrink even further," Anjum said. "We're going to push the limits with our new lineup: the Infinity U, V, and O displays. These are new concepts that are just around the corner, and I can't wait to tell you more about them."
Infinity U: This basically looks identical to the Essential Phone's notch design. It's a small half oval that cuts down into the top middle of the display.
Infinity V: Similar to Infinity U, but with four edges instead of a curved half-oval.
Infinity O: This is a full circular cutout of the display and not so much a "notch" the top edge of the screen. Still, it seems like an eyesore and it's hard to imagine reaction to this being very positive. What's gained by that little area of display above it? Asus seems to be exploring a similar idea for its ZenFone 6, and feedback has been overwhelmingly bad.
New Infinity: This looks to be a completely notchless display. Anjum didn't discuss this one onstage, and the technology isn't quite there to allow for this design just yet. That said, Samsung could be exploring the idea of a slider phone that would house the selfie camera and other components somewhere outside their usual location.
Infinity U: This basically looks identical to the Essential Phone's notch design. It's a small half oval that cuts down into the top middle of the display.
Infinity V: Similar to Infinity U, but with four edges instead of a curved half-oval.
Infinity O: This is a full circular cutout of the display and not so much a "notch" the top edge of the screen. Still, it seems like an eyesore and it's hard to imagine reaction to this being very positive. What's gained by that little area of display above it? Asus seems to be exploring a similar idea for its ZenFone 6, and feedback has been overwhelmingly bad.
New Infinity: This looks to be a completely notchless display. Anjum didn't discuss this one onstage, and the technology isn't quite there to allow for this design just yet. That said, Samsung could be exploring the idea of a slider phone that would house the selfie camera and other components somewhere outside their usual location.
I have a nearly bezeless phone and it's a major pain. I'm constantly clicking things with the palm of my hand, especially youtube video links.
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So because we want to eliminate the bezel (why, I have to hold the damned thing), and because we want it thinner (again, why, I'm only going to put it into an Otterbox case anyway), we're going to move the camera behind the screen (you know, the useful bits) and carve a little notch out of the display.
Tell you what, give me a bezel so my fat hands can hold it, make it thicker so I don't need to worry about breaking it and so it has better battery life, take that stupid notch out, and stop sacrificing screen space so you can make it a fraction of a mm thinner.
We get way too much fucking press coverage about phone notches, when phone notches are just a terrible design compromise so that all of the stupid design choices can be made to seem to suck less.
What next, monitors with notches for built in web cams??
Why?? Why are we cutting fucking notches in the display??? This is stupid, and just a sign of bad design.
I just don't get this, we don't notch doors or anything else, but somehow the shitheads who make phones seem to think the notch is the biggest innovation in design ever?
Sorry, the notch is a sign of incompetence, and sacrificing the wrong thing to put emphasis on other wrong things.
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Apple is trendy, therefore whatever retarded shit they do must be good and worth copying.
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All of you need an LG V30.
WTF is so f***ing awesome about the notch?
It gives the display some extra real estate. It's only like 4mm, but that's a nice little 4mm!
While I hate silly patents, this is one case where I wish a patent got in the way of wider adoption. Same goes for pop-up ads and cross-site cooky tracking.
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Bigger lens. Best lens. Make image of self and friends look great with best lens. The notch allows for space needed to add the best lens.
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therefore I would not consider buying one, anyway. My old Samsung Note 2 still runs like on its first day, thanks to it now using the 3rd set of cheap, 3rd-party, user replaceable battery and a fine installation of Lineage OS.
There was a time when cup holders in cars was the best innovation car makers could come up with. I think cell phones are there now.
It's extra space on the LG V20, and used as such.
otherwise - functionally... visually... it's a hole top-dead-centre of the screen with a camera or two in it. It's a kludge being spun around by marketeers.
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Not really sure why smartphone vendors feel they need to take it upon themselves to dream up innovative new ways to poke, annoy and piss off their customers while at the same time raising prices to ridiculous new heights and failing in spectacular manner to deliver compelling new value.
Not really surprising nobody's upgrading anymore given industry behavior.
I'll upgrade tomorrow if any vendor can deliver the following.
1. Removable battery ... LF-UHF preferred
2. Physical keyboard (e.g. BB KEY2)
3. Not ridiculously thin
4. Not ridiculously large
5. No infinity edge
6. No notches
7. No headphone "courage"
8. No AMOLED (IPS please)
9. No (front) cameras
10. No biometric unlock
11. No locked bootloaders
12. SD Card
13. Configurable RGB indicator light for notification
14. IR transmitter
15. Real GPS
16. SDR AM/FM
On my phone that 'dead space' has LED indicators on one side that tell me if I need to bother looking at / turning on my screen to follow up on something. To me that's much more valuable than a little bit of extra notched real estate when I am using the phone.
That's a pretty big LED indicator. It seems to me that even with an LED indicator there would still have to be some dead space that could be used
But more importantly, and I don't really keep up on the specs of all phones, but don't all phones with notches have OLED screens too? With OLEDs there is no backlight, so there is no huge battery penalty for just lighting up a couple of pixels 24x7, which is why some phones now have the ambient display option. So it seems that if it was really a big deal and enough people cared about the status indicator, they could just as well have any part of the screen act as a status indicator.
And, oh look at that....part of the ambient display is that you DO see status indicators. Except instead of having to remember that a green light is email and a pink light is instant message (and alternating green and pink lights mean you have both an email and an instant message), you can now just see an icon for an email and an icon for an instant message. The little blinking LED light was really just a hacky workaround for the proper implementation, but you seem a little stuck on keeping the hacky workaround.