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Why Bigger Planes Mean Cramped Quarters (popsci.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: The ironic thing about the compressed state of air travel today is that planes are getting larger. The jet I was on, an Airbus A321, stretches nearly 23 feet longer than its predecessor, the A320. More space, more passengers, more profit. These bigger planes are increasingly the most common Âvariants -- both on American Airlines and across all carriers. The current Boeing 737s, the world's most flown craft, are all longer than the original by up to 45 feet. And yet, on the inside, we're getting squeezed.

That's because more space doesn't equal more space in Airline World. It equals more seats -- and typically less room per person. In 2017, for example, word leaked that American was planning to add six economy spots to its A320s, nine to its A321s, and 12 (that's two rows) to its Boeing 737-800s. JetBlue is reportedly ramming 12 extras into its A320s, and Delta's will gain 10. And, come 2020, you'll likely find more seats on every United plane. In Airline World, they call this densification, which is a silly word. Passengers call it arrrgh!

Consumer Reports recently polled 55,000 of its members about air travel. There were complaints about all aspects, from ticketing to agents checking carry-ons at the gate. But 30 percent of coach-class fliers rated their seats as outright uncomfortable, and every airline received extremely low scores on legroom and cushiness in economy. Clearly, things are dismal and seem to be getting even worse. They're so bad, in fact, that last year, nonprofit consumer-advocacy group FlyersRights.org filed a suit against the Federal Aviation Administration, after lobbying the agency to stop the squeeze and standardize seat sizes.

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  1. Thing is... by YuppieScum · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...that they didn't complain about ticket prices.

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    1. Re:Thing is... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So use more efficient aircraft for medium and shorter haul flights. Dash-8 Q400 can have decent seat pitch and still use less fuel/resources than jet aircraft. Perfect for routes like New York-Toronto-Montreal where Porter Airlines uses it, without compromising service.

      Yeah, yeah, ignorant people are scared of a "prop plane..."

    2. Re:Thing is... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not exactly. Most accidents happen during takeoff or landing. Turboprop planes tend to fly shorter flight legs, therefore more takeoffs/landings per hour, even 4x as more. (This even takes slower speed into account).

  2. Capitalism by fluffernutter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is why capitalism rarely serves the needs of the consumer, because usually all players in the market have a a common goal that is the exact opposite of what the consumer needs.

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  3. What happened to competition and free market? by MikeDataLink · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I certainly support free market as much as reasonably possible. But it doesn't seem to be working here.

    Where is the airline offering more legroom and less crammed cabins? Granted within the airlines there are different cabins, but there's no competition between a $350 coach seat and and a $6000 business class seat.

    I think its time for some regulation in seat densities.

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    1. Re:What happened to competition and free market? by danlip · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "Crashes" generally don't involve evacuation, because every one is instantly dead. Situations like US Air 1549 (the one that landed on the Hudson) or AA 383 (caught fire on take off) are much more common. No one died in those, but would the results be different if they were more packed? Emergency aircraft evacuations happen about once every 11 days in the U.S.

  4. Re:Solution is simple... by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Use the CEO, upper management and their families as test subjects, stuff the rest of the plane with homeless people and then tell everyone the first 20 to exit the plane get 50 bucks.

    Then start looking for a new CEO and upper management. And pay your cleanup crew handsomely, they earned it.

    (that "first 20 to exit get money" test was actually done when airlines found out that the evacuation tests worked like a charm while there were many unnecessary deaths in real emergency situations. People don't act civil when their life's at stake...)

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