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Attacks on the Media Are a Threat To Democracy, Justin Trudeau Says (www.cbc.ca)

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told a press freedom event in Paris Sunday that one of the bulwarks protecting democratic governments from being undermined is also an institution under stress -- a free-thinking, robust media. From a report: "If a democracy is to function you need an educated populace, and you need to have an informed populace, ready to make judicious decisions about who to grant power to and when to take it away," Trudeau said. "When citizens cannot have rigorous analysis of the exercise of the power that is in their name and they have granted, the rest of the foundation of our democracies start to erode at the same time as cynicism arises." The press freedom advocacy organization Reporters Without Borders has developed a six-page international declaration on information and democracy to establish basic principles for the "common good of mankind." The organization hosted a small event on the sidelines of the Paris Peace Forum late Sunday afternoon where five presidents and prime ministers, including Trudeau, offered endorsements for this declaration. The Paris Peace Forum, intended to be an annual gathering of political, business and civil society leaders to explore peaceful solutions to the world's problems, was hosted by French President Emmanuel Macron to coincide with this weekend's events marking the centenary of the armistice agreement that ended the First World War.

Trudeau, addressing the audience at the press freedom event without a prepared text, also talked about the risk if too many citizens become too cynical about public institutions. "Attacks on the media are not just about getting your preferred political candidate elected," he said. "They're about increasing the level of cynicism that citizens have toward all authorities, toward all of the institutions that are there to protect us as citizens." Citizens are feeling "very real anxiety," Trudeau said, because their jobs are transforming as globalization increases competition around the world. When that anxiety is exacerbated, it undermines trust in institutions and increases cynicism. "One of the bulwarks against that, and one of the institutions that is most under stress right now, is a free-thinking, independent, rigorous, robust, respected media," the prime minister said.

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  1. Meanwhile, in Canada... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 3, Informative
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  2. Re:Globalist snake by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Informative

    Huh... it's good to know about the sources people cite.

    The Rebel Media (officially The Rebel News Network Ltd.,[1] stylized as THEREBEL.media, and shortened to The Rebel) is a Canadian far-right[2][3][4][5][6] online political and social commentary media website. It was founded in February 2015 by former Sun News Network personalities Ezra Levant and Brian Lilley. It has been described as a "global platform" for the anti-Muslim ideology, also known as counter-jihad.[7][8][9]

    Former Sun News reporter Faith Goldy later joined the outlet.[10] Gavin McInnes, founder of the far-right men's organization Proud Boys, was also a contributor. Lilley, Goldy, and McInnes have all since left the project.[11]

    Many of The Rebel's contributors announced their departure – or were fired – in the second half of August 2017, following Goldy's prominent coverage of the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, and her interview with The Daily Stormer.

    The Rebel Media broadcasts its content on the Rebel Media website and its YouTube channel, which previously peaked on August 16, 2017, at 873,800 subscribers, however with the August departures, it had fallen to a minimum of 842,200 as of August 31. In September–October 2017 the channel resumed its growth. On August 15, 2018, it had over one million subscribers.[12]

    The Rebel Media has been described as part of the alt-right movement,[13] although it rejected the term after the Charlottesville rally.[14]

    It seems to be a one-stop-shop for racism and Islamophobia.

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  3. Re: The media brought it on themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    You're confusing "the media" (journalists) with "media" (advertisers, PR, publishers, other randomness). What you're describing is fake news, which real journalists have already raised the alarm bells on and are fighting. If you see some rando on the street trying to eat elmers glue, you don't say "boy, Einstein sure has got dumb"

  4. Re:Globalist snake by Kiuas · · Score: 4, Informative

    Notice that you didn't dispute anything the articles had to say. Instead, you attacked the messenger.

    The article didn't provide any support for the claim made therein. It links to a previous story about a man returning from the middle-east to Canada and then throws out the following claims:

    We've learned that 60 battle-hardened terrorists have returned to Canada from Syria and Iraq. - -

    Now we know there are 60 such men in Canada.

    That’s like 60 Charles Mansons or Paul Bernardos.

    Not only is the number itself not sourced anywhere in the article, neither is the claim that these men are all 'battle hardened terrorists'. People travel to conflict areas to for numerous reasons (remember, people do have family and friends still in there) and to work in numerous capacities, including as aid-workers and the people who do end up fighting fight on both sides of the conflict. There are volunteers from the west who've been fighting against the terrorists in Syria for example.

    The idiocy then continues:

    Despite what we're being told, I don’t believe they’re under surveillance

    Well that settles it then doesn't it. If the author of the article doesn't believe it, then clearly it must not be the case right? Utter BS.

    The unfounded claims then continue, with the author throwing in this:

    The Liberals don’t even know what’s going on with the “legal” 40,000 migrants they brought from Syria. The majority of Muslim migrants who walked across the border illegally have just gone missing, too.

    Yet again no factual support for either of the claims made, they're simply thrown in there and the reader is expected to believe that they're true.

    How does watching 60 terrorists keep us safe anyway?

    Yet another repetition of an unfounded claim.

    Why aren’t they prosecuted?

    Because in a nation with laws, you need evidence of a crime to prosecute someone. The author seems to be suggesting that simply visiting a conflict area is enough to serve as a basis for prosecution, which it isn't.

    Why aren’t they deported?

    Because I'm guessing most if not all of them are Canadian citizens and a country cannot deport its own citizens and again even if they're foreign nationals deporting them means there has to be evidence that they're guilty of something other than just travelling to the middle-east and back.

    This is not a news article of any sort, it's a blog/opinion piece by an outlet that clearly has an agenda and doesn't provide basic facts about the situation but simply throws out assertions. That's not a 'messenger', that's a propaganda-outlet, and they're quite upfront about it. Similar rhetoric is always used when defending unfounded claims. The net is full of conspiratorial blog-sites masquerading as news outlets posting all kinds of wild unfounded BS and the counter-argument from fans is always 'why are you attacking the source and not the claims' when the real question should be 'why is anyone believing such claims to begin with with little to no evidence?' On top of that, these sites themselves don't dispute claims with facts, but hand-waive them with statements like 'I don't believe this', so they themselves are simply choosing to attack the messenger instead of using facts to even try and support their arguments.

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  5. Re:Globalist snake by Tough+Love · · Score: 4, Informative

    the last global survey found that the clear majority of muslims in non-muslim countries want to replace current law with sharia law.

    Really. And what global survey was that? It took me about one minute to find a respectable survey that says even in most muslim countries most muslims don't want sharia law.

    Cite your sources. (I'm not holding out much hope that you will or can)

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  6. Re:Wrong Approach by Sique · · Score: 4, Informative

    [...] George Soros, an actual nazi collaborator.

    Anti-Semitism is the rumor about the Jews (Theodor W. Adorno).

    Or to be more clear: George Soros never was an Nazi collaborator, but the smear campaign against him doesn't stop. I know the video. And I know that people try to read anything into it. That doesn't make it true. For instance: George Soros could never have been a member of the Hitlerjugend. It's simply impossible with him being a citizen of Hungary. The Hitlerjugend was only for young people who were citizens of Germany (which included Austria after 1938). But the rumor continues nonetheless. Then there is the rumor that he allegedly has pointed out his neighbors to the Gestapo to be carried of to the concentration camps. But Hungary was a sovereign nation and ally of Germany, not an occupied territory during WW II. Thus the Gestapo had no dealings in Hungary. And yes, Hungarian jews were deported into concentration camps (mainly Auschwitz), when Döme Sztójay became prime minister on Mar 19th 1944. But the deportations stopped on July 9th 1944, when they were supposed to reach the jews living in Budapest, because Regent of the Empire Miklós Horthy deprived Döme Sztójay of his power (Döme Sztójay stepped down on Aug 23rd 1944 and left Hungary). Thus George Soros, living in Budapest, couldn't be involved in the deportation of his neighbors, as none of his neighbors were actually deported.

    So whoever continues to spread the rumors about George Soros just proves to be either an anti-Semite or a totally under-informed being falling for a false rumor because it fits his world view.

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  7. Re: and... by Mashiki · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think it's tough. Trudeau is a typical politician.

    He isn't a typical politician, he's a puppet. He won the Liberal Party nomination not because of his ideas, or skills, or forward thinking, or anything to help Canada. He won it because of his last name. The media propped him up, went out of their way to silence issues, and refused to carry other issues. Here's a good one, "carbon tax" the previous election the Liberals and NDP lost exactly on this issue. The media went out of their way to soft-pedal it, or even openly state that it wasn't a liberal party agenda item. This is after Trudeau Jr., said that he wanted to implement it.

    Want to know where the real power lies in Canada? Look up G.M. Butts. He's the same person who was behind many of Kathleen Wynne's(Liberal Party of Ontario) ideas during her tenure as Ontario's Premier. I'll now remind you that the Ontario Liberal Party is so small after that tenure, that it can fit into a 1996 Ford minivan and is no longer an officially recognized political party.

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  8. Re:One-Sided Progaganda is not Rigorous by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Informative

    Already been done, but honest and accurate reports were dismissed as "parroting the establishment narrative" and more superficial ones requested to confirm existing views.

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  9. Re:The real problem. by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Informative

    When 95% of the MSM is left-wing, arguing against freedom and for government control with socialism, fascism, or communism (any form of authoritarianism in fact), and they make no effort to be unbiased, that is the problem.

    *blinks*

    You do know what socialism is, right? It's things like interstate highways. Socialism is no more inherently authoritarian than pure capitalism, unless by authoritarian, you mean that people have to actually, you know, pay their taxes.

    Fascism? That's an ultra-right position, not an ultra-left position. So if the mainstream media is arguing for that, then they can't be ultra-left.

    Communism? I don't see anybody arguing for the abolition of free enterprise in this country, on either side of the aisle, much less in the mainstream media. Now you're just making stuff up.

    Seriously, do you even understand the things you're talking about, or are you just parroting somebody else's talking points?

    He is right, stick to the facts, don't make yourself the story (I'm looking at you Dear Diary Acosta), and get out of your left-wing bubble.

    When even the traditionally ultra-right Fox News is saying Trump is wrong, Trump is wrong.

    So no, he isn't right. All media is biased. No media sticks to reporting the facts. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding him/herself.

    Thus, if you're using that to define what is or is not "fake news", then all news media qualifies, and by extension, is "the enemy of the people". Interpreting his statement to be anything other than a broad attack on the mainstream press requires living in a right-wing bubble, in which the right-wing press is somehow not biased, even though all other press is.

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