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US Overtakes China in Top Supercomputer List (bbc.com)

Posted by msmash on from the for-what-it-is-worth dept.

China has been pushed into third place on a list of the world's most powerful supercomputers. From a report: The latest list by Top 500, published twice a year, puts two US machines -- Summit and Sierra -- in the top two places. The US has five entries in the top 10, with other entries from Switzerland, Germany and Japan. However, overall China has 227 machines in the top 500, while the US has 109. Summit can process 200,000 trillion calculations per second. Both Summit and Sierra were built by the tech giant IBM. China's Sunway TaihuLight supercomputer, which this time last year was the world's most powerful machine, is now ranked at number three, while the country also has the fourth spot in the list.

74 comments

  1. Much more interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... to see a good smattering of non-intel CPUs make a good show again. Still waiting on the workstations based on those though. POWER9 is pretty much the only one you can also stuff in a one or two socket deskside box.

    1. Re:Much more interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://www.raptorcs.com/

      Not cheap in the absolute (mostly because of the motherboard cost), but the 18 core Power9 is interesting: 72 threads, 90MB of L3 cache, 4 channels of DDR4 memory, 48 lanes of PCIe Gen4. I don't know of any other CPU which comes close at $1425, but the 190W or so TDP is a bit frightening, especially if you have 2 in single workstation.

    2. Re:Much more interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Talos II by Raptor Computing Systems is a POWER9-based Workstation. You can even buy the motherboard & CPUs separately and install in your own case.

      https://www.raptorcs.com/

    3. Re:Much more interesting... by ctilsie242 · · Score: 1

      One interesting item with the POWER9 is Turbo Core mode. This disables have the CPUs, but lets the remaining ones use the disabled CPUs' caches, and allows the clock speed on the chip to be increased by a significant amount. The main reason this is done is because of certain DB vendors licensing by CPU, and because the computer reports half the cores, it saves a lot of money. Ironically, the performance loss from the halving of the cores is not as bad as one would expect.

  2. The difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    American computers operate with numbers in binary format, strings of 1s and 0s, the optimal format for electronic computation.

    Chinese computers operate on primitive pictographs, little pictures like Egyptian hieroglyphics to represent objects. That is why a Chinese keyboard has over 1000 keys. They need a special key for every pictograph. It's a very primitive system rooted in the Neolithic era.

    1. Re:The difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is why Chinese computers are faster. They operate on thousands of pictograms at a time, whereas inferior US technology can only compare a 1 or 0.

    2. Re:The difference by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      That is why a Chinese keyboard has over 1000 keys.

      China uses standard QWERTY keyboards. They enter hanzi using Pinyin, a phonetic script using the Latin alphabet.

      Keyboards with over a thousand keys were made decades ago, but they were for manual typing (keystroke directly to paper), and nobody uses them anymore. I have only seen them in museums.

    3. Re:The difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG, I hope you are being scarcastic here..

      primitive pictographs

      That language is over 2,000 years old, and unlike English when you go back a few decades it is challanging to read.. The chinese can read things from 2000 years ago with ease.

      That is why a Chinese keyboard has over 1000 keys.
      Clearly you have no idea how the Chinese input the characters into a computer. Here's a hint, pinyin, and the keyboard is the same as the one you used to type your nonsense.

      It's a very primitive system rooted in the Neolithic era.

      If it works, why change it? because you cant read it?
      You do realize the chinese are proud of that "primative sytem" and the enherent "beauty" of the language?

      (married to a chinese, see her typing to her friends all the time.. on the exact same keyboard i use, and she's really fast at it too)..

    4. Re:The difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know you are trolling, but...

      Chinese characters are not pictograms, they are logograms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logogram

  3. THIS is why TRUMP (METALLICA CALLING) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because without TRUMP this would not have happened. And because PUTIN, because without PUTIN TRUMP would not have happened.

    Obligatory Metallica

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  4. This is important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With supercomputing, often #1 on the list is more powerful than the next 20 combined. It's important for the US to remain #1.

    1. Re:This is important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not true... you can just look up the numbers.

    2. Re:This is important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With supercomputing, often #1 on the list is more powerful than the next 20 combined. It's important for the US to remain #1.

      Absolutely. Now that we have the #1 supercomputer on this list, we can supercompute more computer stuff than the next 20 supercomputers on the list can supercompute their stuff.

      I guess what I'm saying is, I don't actually give a shit about this list, or whatever it is they are doing with these computers, because I strongly suspect none of it benefits me in any way and is likely to be something I detest.

    3. Re:This is important by Drethon · · Score: 1

      With supercomputing, often #1 on the list is more powerful than the next 20 combined. It's important for the US to remain #1.

      Absolutely. Now that we have the #1 supercomputer on this list, we can supercompute more computer stuff than the next 20 supercomputers on the list can supercompute their stuff.

      I guess what I'm saying is, I don't actually give a shit about this list, or whatever it is they are doing with these computers, because I strongly suspect none of it benefits me in any way and is likely to be something I detest.

      Yeah, might be something completely horrible like genetic cancer analysis of the type that led to cancer immunotherapy (OK, so this is a bit of an assumption about how these treatments came about and I'm ignoring research for killing people too). Regardless, it isn't the research but the application that could be a problem.

    4. Re: This is important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Youre right, higher resolution weather models and cancer research dont benefit you at all.

    5. Re: This is important by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or breaking your encryption keys.

  5. space race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    kind of like the space race. but also not because we don’t see/publicize the output of these machines

  6. Race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The TOP500 list is interesting, but people treating it like a "race" for the fastest machine is kind of silly.

    It used to be whomever could come up with the most optimal architecture would have the fastest computer. You had exotic CPUs running in custom hyper-ring or torus buses.

    Nowadays it's whomever throws the most amount of money at buying the newest and, generally, commodity hardware. There are different flavors of custom Linux micro-oses they run. There are different interconnects, though they are almost all off-the-shelf (GigE, Infiniband, Myrinet...) The last real innovation was China's last big machine that ran home-brew, probably Alpha-derived CPUs, but even then they managed to hit the top spot by using over 40,000 260-core processors in their system.

    It's less of a barometer of innovation, rather than a metric of how much money someone is willing to spend.

    1. Re:Race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, wish there was more innovation in the top 500. Processing in memory is the next big thing since computational performance has outstripped I/o and memory access latencies/bandwidth. It will be available for the elite first and quickly make its way into consumer products.

      The truth is that it's more profitable to build commodity hardware than it is to make specialized hardware that only few can afford. Give the geniuses some time to develop neat applications with the new hardware, then quickly spread the costs around.

  7. *sigh* Its still _clusters_! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why are people insisting on referring to these clusters as "super computers"?

    1. Re:*sigh* Its still _clusters_! by DickBreath · · Score: 3, Informative

      Idea:
      1. Take two clusters.
      2. Rename them such that they are now a single "super computer".
      3. Be the winnars on the Top500 list!
      4. Profit!

      That business model should be patented!

      --

      I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
    2. Re:*sigh* Its still _clusters_! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever since MPP mostly replaced vector machines in big systems. The interconnect in these systems is not your big brother's 100Mbps ethernet either, but I think the size of "not physically available to our small company or your home" is the most discriminating factor.

  8. Summit Not Up Yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad Summit hasn't even been released to the early science program yet... Looks like no one will even be able to touch it until January. Sigh.

    Posted Anonymously on purpose....

  9. Re:Whatta? by DickBreath · · Score: 1

    > MAGA!

    Yeah, right.

    While the US may have the top performing supercomputer for the moment, the Chinese are probably doing something useful with theirs. And I mean useful, such as keeping data centers from getting too cold.

    --

    I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
  10. NVDA falls 8% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Even though #1 & #2 on the TOP500 are NVIDIA based. And NVIDIA DGX-1 lets anyone join TOP500 by buying a few dozens boxes and networking them together (see #50 and #51)

  11. How you use it? by Drethon · · Score: 2

    The first thing through my head was, does it matter how fast it is if you don't know how to use it, the second was that comes with terrible innuendo...

    Regardless, what are really being done with the computers of value? Is the fastest supercomputer really adding the most value to the world?

    1. Re: How you use it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wily Chinese coyotes trying to hog the top 500!

    2. Re:How you use it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The first thing through my head was, does it matter how fast it is if you don't know how to use it, the second was that comes with terrible innuendo...

      Regardless, what are really being done with the computers of value? Is the fastest supercomputer really adding the most value to the world?

      "adding value", what the fuck does it even mean? creating a cheaper toaster? is that what this is all about?

      might as well abandon all basic research in science unless it "adds fucking value".

    3. Re:How you use it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know what they say about men with a fast computer.

  12. Re:Whatta? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1, Funny

    MAGA!

    US only overtook China because they stole China's IP.

    --
    "That's the way to do it" - Punch
  13. Of the supercomputers we know of by Dan+East · · Score: 2

    We're talking about the list of *known* supercomputers. I'm sure various government agencies have supercomputers that are secret. In fact, it's highly probable that the most powerful in the world are not public knowledge.

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    Better known as 318230.
    1. Re:Of the supercomputers we know of by larryjoe · · Score: 1

      We're talking about the list of *known* supercomputers. I'm sure various government agencies have supercomputers that are secret. In fact, it's highly probable that the most powerful in the world are not public knowledge.

      Yes, absolutely. The Top-500 doesn't include systems from NSA and other US/non-US governmental agencies; corporate systems such as for oil exploration, etc.; or even some academic systems such as Blue Waters at UIUC.

      The Top-500 list is mainly for governmental bragging rights, as even the non-government owned machines are largely government funded. However, this list does help to push forward the research for tackling the big problems of scalable cost, performance, power, reliability, and programmability. So, hopefully the aggregate endeavor advances the entire ocean of HPC, even if specific boats lay claim to superiority.

    2. Re:Of the supercomputers we know of by hitchhacker · · Score: 1

      Petroleum Geo-Services (PGS) in Houston is actually on the list at #41 with 4 petaflops, but right next door is British Petroleum's cluster which I don't see on the list. This says it's 9 petaflops which would put it around #20. Shell also has some large clusters here.. I think around the astrodome area. Exxon has at least one Cray up north in the Woodlands which I don't see on the list either.

  14. SSI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If a cluster runs as a single system image, what's the difference?

  15. IMPERSONATING me AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Hope you're RIGHT (considering I'm only sure hosts stop portsmash vs. Spectre/Meltdown) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    I pity c6gunner caught impersonating me (his name's the submitter signing "APK") https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    * He tried to INSULT me & so I made him a COMPLETELY FAIR CHALLENGE he couldn't meet or beat by showing me he's done better work in the past prior to his impersonating me there.

    (You shouldn't throw stones when you live in a glass house boys - especially vs. me: RIGHT, ZIP? https://developers.slashdot.or... )

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts stop portsmash (by blocking download sources of its mailcious exes doing it) https://it.slashdot.org/commen... not Spectre/Meltdown AFAIK @ least - & YOU FAIL THIS PORTFILTERING TEST liar https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... (my program won't allow that error) so cut your lies as you IMPERSONATE me you pitiful loser... apk

  16. Supercomputers are mostly useless by gweihir · · Score: 0

    Basically you can simulate weather, nuclear bombs and a few other things, but that is it.

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    Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
    1. Re:Supercomputers are mostly useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Super computers are mostly useless" gets a score of 2?

      ok...

    2. Re:Supercomputers are mostly useless by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 1

      "Super computers are mostly useless" gets a score of 2?

      Logged in users with positive enough karma get a default 2 to start all posts. There have been no other mods to the GP post as of this post.

    3. Re:Supercomputers are mostly useless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To smaller companies that can't afford to hire the scientists and mathematicians needed, sure. But even smaller companies can benefit from running their standard engineering jobs remotely in appropriate machines for the limited number of scalable applications. Call your local or national supercomputer center for further information and people to help you.

    4. Re:Supercomputers are mostly useless by CSMoran · · Score: 1

      Basically you can simulate weather, nuclear bombs and a few other things, but that is it.

      Right. And in silico drug design and functional materials design do not exist. Those rotor blades and aeroplane wings also just simulate themselves.

      --
      Every end has half a stick.
    5. Re:Supercomputers are mostly useless by Pascoea · · Score: 1

      Those rotor blades and aeroplane wings also just simulate themselves.

      Well their parents better tell them to knock it off, I hear it will make you go blind.

  17. The life cycle of an APK comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Post a stupid comment
    2) Get called out for posting a stupid comment
    3) Deny having posted the stupid comment and allege impersonation
    4) Abandon the thread and post the stupid comment in the same article and/or a later article

  18. Slashdot pushes MEANINGLESS metric... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What computing power developed the world's first nukes or got Man to the moon?

    Work SMART not hard. The world's best engineers and scientists do not need the 'fastest' 'super-computers'. These are the toys of betas- people into 'science' like those into SF for the funny costumes, and funny 'alien' nonsense.

    Here's a clue for the clueless. Go look at the hobbiest revolution in Steam engines from the 18th and 19th century- which pre-empted the modern computer revolution. For sure, the common dumb dumb admired the 'biggest' steam engines of the time- dumb dumbs are always fascinated by the 'biggest' anything.

    What matters is the new industrial revolution- that exists entirely in the Far East.

    Meanwhile Intel and the USA consortium know as Global Foundries (spun off from IBM's and ever other major US companies chip making biz) have FAILED to do the latest shrink, while China (Taiwan- TSMC) and Korea (Samsung) have suceeded with ease. This marks the END of 100 years of America's massive telecommunication lead, of which Silicon Valley was but the last stage. The final engineering frontier in the USA has now crashed and burnt.

    The 'Empire' (Frankenstein's Monster- Britain being Frankenstein) known as the USA is in a post intellectual phase now, with only warmongering on a global scale left for it as an option. America has a demonically large military budget for a reason.

    The Andromeda Strain, written at the end of the 1960s, starts with a glorification of America's 'obvious' tech lead over everyone else. Intel finally crashed and burned when it turned over the 'intellectual' work to the demonic state of I-sreal- the ultimate conmen who lack a braincell amongst them but 'talk' a very good game.

    The tribe weaponised political correctness in the West- so a block of flats on fire in London kills a ton of the residents indside because the FEMALE moron in charge of the London fire service saw no problem in having the residents repeatedly told to "stay put" as the fire burnt out of all control of the firefighters on the scene.

    SJW appointees FOLLOW the 'rules' they have been trained up with remorselessly, never ever questioning them. And that is why the tribe wants them- the tribe makes the rules.

    It is a MEME in the USA that parents cannot any longer help their kids with BASIC maths homework- and dumb-dumbs never askl why the tribe worked so hard to introduce 'new maths'- which simply means arbitary and confusing rulesets for doing trivial mathematical calculations. But engineering skills and confidence in the West could not have been collapsed without this and a myriad other SABOTAGE strategies.

    Humans are the same the world over. Asian brain's ain't better than western ones. And the massive lead the USA had in high tech could have been trivially maintained. The WAR on ther types of people who would have maintained America's lead was essential to end that lead. Doing overtly cumbersome methods of maths calculations at elementary and junior schools, breaking the maths confidence of so many betas (alphas are 'bulletproof) was a genius act of sabotage. And then when the tribe points out that the performance of alphas are unaffected by the 'new maths' so the failing betas are just 'lazy', or their teachers 'incomptent' or the parents 'stupid meddlers' was just satanic genius.

    The tribe knew Americans could not truly be made to LOVE war if they had valid trade and engineering alternatives. America needed just enough ability to support the war machine, and then a need to use that war machine at rapidly advancing 'competitor' empires like China and Russia. The 'logic' that the USA must pre-emptively launch a WORLD WAR before the tech advances in competing powers becomes overwhelming.

    All of America's meain tech focus now is on the coming world war. Google is building the drone war machines for the US armed services (don't believe me- Googge for info on how many military robot companies Google has aquired, and then consider how Google's mainline techs like 'self-dri

  19. IMPERSONATING me AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I pity c6gunner caught impersonating me (his name's the submitter signing "APK") https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    * He tried to INSULT me & so I made him a COMPLETELY FAIR CHALLENGE he couldn't meet or beat by showing me he's done better work in the past prior to his impersonating me there.

    (You shouldn't throw stones when you live in a glass house boys - especially vs. me: RIGHT, ZIP? https://developers.slashdot.or... )

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a pack of PUNK losers that act worse than WOMEN (you must be homos - only THEY are that way)... apk

  20. BS you don't have a reg'd acc't. ZIP... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads to save you some embarrassment." - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    HOW ELSE COULD YOU DOWNMOD MY POSTS YOU ADMIT DOING UNLESS YOU HAD A REGISTERED USERNAME ACCOUNT HERE, you lying ASSHOLE?

    * All you HAVE is STALKING ME - figures since you BLEW YOURSELF AWAY vs. me here https://developers.slashdot.or...

    APK

    P.S.=> You're nothing but a BLOWHARD PUNK LOSER that can't backup your BULLSHIT pussy... apk

    1. Re:BS you don't have a reg'd acc't. ZIP... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the joke you stupid fucking aspie. *I* didn't downmod you. I'm glad someone did though. You're a total dipshit.

      ZIP

    2. Re:BS you don't have a reg'd acc't. ZIP... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only joke I see is you ZIP trying to twice downmod hide Apk exposing you're a lying fool on tech and your lies https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

  21. SIMPLE TEST u FAIL & FACT U IMPERSONATE ME by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    0.0.0.0 test1.com:53
    0.0.0.0 test2.com:53
    0.0.0.0 jowie.com
    0.0.0.0 jealous.com
    0.0.0.0 jowie.com
    0.0.0.0 test3.com
    0.0.0.0 borlnd.com
    0.0.0.0 tester.com

    * RUN THAT DATASET THRU MY PROGRAM & WHAT RESULTS COME OUT THAT HAVE A "PORT FILTER" ATTACHED?

    NONE!

    Only borlnd.com, tester.com, test3.com, jealous.com & jowie.com (last 2 are for YOU, lol) REMAIN (no filters on them)

    MY PROGRAM EVEN PREVENTS THAT MISTAKE!

    APK

    P.S.=> THIS PROVES MY PROGRAM'S OUTPUT DOES NOT ALLOW "PORT FILTERING" ENTRIES IN HOSTS as I said!

    ALL DESPITE you IMPERSONATING ME & LYING (for YEARS now) saying hosts do + STALKING ME via UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS too (loser weezil).

    It's LONG PROVEN YOU DO THAT c6gunner https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    + your LIES saying I have a MacOS model (I don't YET) OR that hosts cure Spectre/Meltdown (hosts don't but you LIE impersonating ME saying they do - FILTERS in hosts too!)... apk

  22. LOL! I know why you losers impersonate me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You losers impersonate me as you always LOSE to me like this post shows https://news.slashdot.org/comm... & you DO impersonate me (c6gunner's the SUBMITTER here yet signing "APK" twisting /.ers words of praise of my work they like & use) https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    * It has GOT TO SUCK to be punk bitches like "your kind" (do-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" LAZY unskilled jerks that STALK me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts (like a jilted HOMO would do, lol - worse than WOMEN act even, hahaha) OR by you IMPERSONATING me...

    APK

    P.S.=> You're pitiful little weezils & you KNOW it - that's what you show people you are - USELESS ANNOYANCES... apk

  23. Re:Whatta? by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    Super computing isn't like it use to be. (not to discredit all the hard work to the designers of these new computers, as my statement is oversimplifying things) To be on Top for Supercomputer Today it is more of an issue of being able to put more money into the problem then putting more creativity into it.

    The old cray systems for example, when they were #1 on the super computing place, was very creative on how they achieved max performance on a relativity small form factor. Today's supercomputers are in essence just a bunch of server blades, with high speed network crammed in as big of a room that you can afford to hold and cool.

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    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
  24. Aw, pissed you FAILED my test? Yes, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aw! Pissed you FAIL my test that PROVES YOU WRONG? Yes, lol https://news.slashdot.org/comm... & you can TRY impersonate me as you do (weak, like you) but you GET CAUGHT DOING IT (c6gunner) https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    * LMAO - I also CAUGHT "ZIP" LYING saying he doesn't have a registered account YET SAYS HE DOWNMOD BOMBS MY POSTS quoting him proving he lies https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts specifics do NOT cause wildcard false positives & DGA trackers exist, I've used them & SHOWN YOU LISTS OF THEM (they do what you ask & I get the domain names & block them - simple - you LOSE lol)... apk

  25. Time to ban ACs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know Iâ(TM)m an AC now, but itâ(TM)s time to require registered accounts to comment. This bs between APK and c6gunner is getting real old.

  26. Give it a week... by 3seas · · Score: 1

    and India will beat us out, then it will be ..... rinse and repeat.

  27. Re:APK admits he is a retarded bitch failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ZIP you're the one trying to downmod hide all the times APK made you look like a fool proving you're a liar too https://news.slashdot.org/comm... ? Ashamed? You should be.

  28. but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can it play Quake?

  29. Re:Enough of bullies like ZIP & c6gunner... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ZIP I'd like to know why you tried to downmod hide APK proving you're a liar and idiot on coding 2x https://news.slashdot.org/comm... ? Ashamed? You should be.

  30. Does it run MS Office? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A computer is useless if you cannot make a Power Point slide pack to email the boss the weekly quad chart about the project status.

  31. power9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I find it more interesting news that a non-x86 is at the top again at long last.

  32. Re:Whatta? by AlwinBarni · · Score: 1

    MAGA!

    Just curious, where you the same happy when in 2012 Titan, Sequoia and Mira topped Chinese supercomputer?

    Now the hard truth: in 2015 US had 199 vs China's 109 supercomputers on top500, today: US has 124 vs China 206: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Lastly, honestly, do you know what the phrase "the cult of a supreme leader" means and where it usually leads?

  33. World's fastest Supercomputer by UglyMike · · Score: 1

    Imagine a Beowulf..... ah, fuck it. I'm too old for this crap.

  34. Re:APK admits he is a retarded bitch failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not ZIP, but if you aren't APK then you are an even bigger retarded bitch than he is. Even APK won't stand up for himself because he knows he lost so why would you? If you are APK then that is just another one of your lies that you tell which is you pretend there is support for you. Either way it doesn't make the retarded bitch APK look good.

  35. ZIP you = "FORREST chump" w/ proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Prove this: "I'm a much better programmer than APK, as has been proven." - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082)

    FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    You're a BETTER programmer than I, quoted saying so above?

    WHERE'S PROOF OF WORK YOU DO EVEN /.ers LIKE & USE?

    It's NOT!

    * I have DOZENS of /.ers saying they like & use my work - praising it & it's good effects on more speed, security, reliability & anonymity PLUS 100,000++ users of it worldwide - DO YOU??

    HELL NO!

    You also LIED trying to "take credit" for a SOLUTION to C++ string buffer overflow issues I SOLVED WAY BEFORE YOU https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... proof's right there scumbag punk you are.

    I also shot you to pieces on your github LIE @ the root of all that too (yes that's you too scumbag) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    LIAR ZIP says he has no account "I don't have an account, so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet LIAR ZIP says he downmods my posts (IMPOSSIBLE MINUS AN ACCOUNT on /.): "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    ZIP HIDES THIS DOWNMODDING IT TWICE as it EXPOSES his bullshit https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    APK

    P.S.=> CodeSigning you "praise" (I don't for GOOD REASONS & I use something better) can & HAS been STOLEN & ABUSED https://www.helpnetsecurity.co... MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen... ... apk

  36. cowardly APK hiding behind fake posts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only joke I see is you ZIP trying to twice downmod hide Apk

    Prove it. I never downmod you. Physically impossible. Everyone sees your foolish posts for what they are, you're losing any respect you had on /. with this pathetic replies.

    ZIP

  37. Proof ZIP is a stupid lying CHIMP... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey ZIP - who came up w/ the C++ fix 1st here (where YOU said you did & multiple times in your post history) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... ?

    * I DID YOU LYING PITIFUL NO SKILLS (or accomplishments you can show & I can (folks like & use MY work https://it.slashdot.org/commen... NOT your "hotairware" that doesn't exist - lol!)

    DESPITE saying "I'm a much better programmer than APK, as has been proven." - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... )

    You do-NOTHING all talk fucking CHIMP loser... lol!

    IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO DO SO PRIOR TO IT there in that debate - mine was 1st reply to raymorris cluing him into C++ bufferoverflow possibles AND HOW TO FIX IT!

    I used ObjectPascal which HAS NO SUCH ISSUE (length's built-into strings).

    Tell us about your "modpoints" you say you don't have (but you did before that) too:

    LIAR ZIP says he has no account "I don't have an account, so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet LIAR ZIP says he downmods my posts (IMPOSSIBLE MINUS AN ACCOUNT on /.): "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    Tell us about CODE SIGNING (which has been STOLEN & ABUSED) https://www.helpnetsecurity.co... MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen...

    YOU IGNORANT CHIMP!!!

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a joke ZACH PATTERSON the wannabe (now I finally KNOW who & WHERE you are)... apk

  38. And now bitch APK goes full retard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've told you many times before that I'm not ZIP or c6gunner. I see you chose to go full retard because your retarded bitch ass got stomped twice by me now here. Once because you can't deliver on what you say and once because you got caught posting fake support for yourself. The fact that it took you over 14,000 lines of code to write a file aggregator speaks volumes of your inability to write quality code. The fact that you don't understand code signing and why it is superior to your shitty self check also speaks volumes of your inability to understand standard security concepts. Based off of these I would suggest that no one ever trust your code or your advise on security.

    Now go cry more about your bullshit whining and lies being modded down. Maybe you should rant about khyber, Ol Olsoc, Zontar, whipslash, barb hudson, and arth1 instead.