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Firefox Debuts Price Wise, an Experimental Price-Tracking Feature To Help Users Score Top Shopping Deals (venturebeat.com)

Posted by msmash on from the interesting-updates dept.

The Firefox Test Pilot team on Monday rolled out two new experimental features, one of which is aimed to make this year's holiday shopping a bit easier on your wallet. It's called Price Wise, and it's an online shopping comparison tool that lets you add items from across several retailers to a Price Watcher list. From a report: When a price drops, a notification is automatically sent to your browser, and you can click regardless of what web page you are currently on. For now, Price Wise tracks just five retailers -- Amazon, Best Buy, eBay, Walmart, and the Home Depot -- but the company said it's planning on expanding to cover more outlets in the future.

Elsewhere, Mozilla is also rolling out a new feature called Email Tabs as part of its early adopter program. While Mozilla already offers a service for bookmarking content to read later via Pocket, Email Tabs enables users to choose multiple tabs and send links to one or more of them to their Gmail address. There are a number of options here. Users can choose to send links with screenshots, just links, or links with full articles. Price Wise is only available to users in the U.S. for now.

101 comments

  1. How long before the first lawsuit? by fustakrakich · · Score: 0

    Oh, damn! What do I put in here?
      First post?

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    1. Re:How long before the first lawsuit? by msnash · · Score: -1

      No lawsuit, everything A-OK. They probably have pretty good money makes from New Feature, just like we Slashdot Deals. Not as much profit as they expecting but definitely worth doing. Even Al Products offered to be bleeding edge!

      Highly suggest

  2. ZIP & c6gunner should STOP BULLYING ME... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See subject: I'm so sick & tired of /. BULLIES. You shitweasels have nothing better to do than HARASS, STALK & IMPERSONATE little ol' me. I've done absolutely NOTHING wrong & just try to make everyone's lives better w/ my work that stops ads & malware.

    * As soon as I post, I'm CENSORED to -1 w/ ABUSED downmodpoints by bullies like ZIP, who even admit to this. I caught c6gunner mocking then IMPERSONATING me when he forgot to log out. Zontar mailed me a postcard w/ THREATS on it, then LIES & STALKS me. All because you JEALOUS JOWIE "ne'er-do-wells" KNOW I'm World-Class & you're shit. It's why you hide behind FAKE names & UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS.

    I'm even improving my already GREAT PHYSIQUE by getting calf implants while you weezils sit around all day on /. STALKING & HARASSING your BETTERS. I repeatedly dust the no-mind bullshit blatherings you BULLIES post to attack me. Like always I WIN & YOU LOSE.

    APK

    P.S.=> This BULLYING of me is SO UNFAIR. GROW UP... apk

  3. So they remove features people use... by mr_jrt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...for bloat like this? Seriously?

    What the hell is wrong with the Mozilla Foundation? Just focus on making a minimal, high-quality, open source browser. That's it. that's literally all you need to do. That's why we have rich extension mechanisms, right? So people/companies can build and add-on whatever gubbins they like without wasting core resources building and maintaining it.

    I despair sometimes, I really do.

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    1. Re:So they remove features people use... by higuita · · Score: 3, Informative

      first this is a test feature!
      second, you need to install it to use it.
      third, RTFA before throwing stones

      This as this is a official firefox add-on instead of community add-on... probably if it works, they could ask money for the shops to be included in the add-on, so everybody win a little

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    2. Re:So they remove features people use... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sure, it's a test feature, that you have to manually install *now*, but what if it goes further? Is this (or are they, if also considering "Email Tabs") something that really needs to be a browser feature rather than a browser extension? I think that's what people are complaining about. Neither are really pertinent to the browser itself, which is what Mozilla should be focused on. (and I would add Thunderbird)

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    3. Re:So they remove features people use... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      You dropped your tin foil hat

    4. Re:So they remove features people use... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, you can't have a status bar or a functional search box, but you can have crap like this. It's little surprise Firefox is continuing to lose market share.

    5. Re:So they remove features people use... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 2

      You dropped your tin foil hat

      I'm sure Mozilla will develop a built-in Firefox feature to help me with that, though disabling it may be problematic.

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    6. Re:So they remove features people use... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      What the hell is wrong with the Mozilla Foundation? Just focus on making a minimal, high-quality, open source browser. That's it. that's literally all you need to do.

      No that's not literally all they need to do. Their goal is an open, non creepy internet for users not corporations. A bit part of that is an open browser. But that's useless if all the services are creepy too. So they have a location service that isn't creepy. And are working on a voice activationservice that's not either.

      And now this.

      Personally I applaud their efforts since I can see theat the internet and their goals are clearly larger than a single piece of software.

      I despair sometimes, I really do. ...

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    7. Re:So they remove features people use... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They've been making a high-quality and minimal browser forever, but Slashdot doesn't really care. All we care about is whenever they run an experiment that we can complain about in some way. Or when they change something we liked, because it's another argument we can make that they've "lost their way". Slashdot's opinion of Mozilla might as well be "Mozilla: losing their way since 1998".

    8. Re:So they remove features people use... by higuita · · Score: 1

      they test several features, some get in in firefox, like the page screenshot (it is simple enough and many people use it, specially less tech oriented people that do not even know how to install a add-on), most are never added... i used a past test, vertical tab, loved it and now i keep using it as a add-on... is it in your firefox? no, you have to install it just a normal add-on

      If it ever enters the normal firefox, complain at that time... i only imagine this on the browser as a new form of funding, just like the search engine

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    9. Re: So they remove features people use... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they keep it as an extension, and don't make it evil (snooping data and so on), that's ok. Hell, I may even use it, if it does something novel.

      Chances are though that it'll be integrated eventually, like that useless fucking pocket extension was. But now since quantum the one extension I really miss the most is scrapbook, which is what Pocket wants to be when it grows up.

    10. Re:So they remove features people use... by Torodung · · Score: 1

      It's fucking Test Pilot, you dunce. It's a web experiment, like "containers," where they intend to release an extension if it works out well.

      Besides, there's already "Invisible Hand."

    11. Re:So they remove features people use... by Torodung · · Score: 1

      They did a similar experiment with "Containers" (cookie isolation), and released it as an extension later. They even released a version called "Facebook Container" that isolates Facebook from all the websites you visit so it can't track you via third-party cookies.

      Mozilla is working on potentially useful stuff, not world domination.

    12. Re:So they remove features people use... by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

      If it goes further, and enough people don't like it, they fork Firefox. That's what the open source part is for...

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    13. Re:So they remove features people use... by nmb3000 · · Score: 1

      Mozilla is working on potentially useful stuff, not world domination.

      Nobody suggested "world domination". Why the need for a straw man?

      What we *are* concerned about is yet another attempt to monetize Firefox by trading user privacy for dollars. You know, like the sponsored tiles which people hated and were removed, but have just recently been replaced with the totally-not-the-same-thing-trust-us sponsored content.

      That, and Mozilla has a bad habit of turning extensions into forced bundled features, like they did with Pocket.

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    14. Re:So they remove features people use... by Luckyo · · Score: 2

      I see your meme and beat you to death with Pocket.

    15. Re:So they remove features people use... by Luckyo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Pocket shills called. They wanted to remind you that they already used all those lies in the past, and it may be harder to use the same lies now to push for the same agenda.

    16. Re:So they remove features people use... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I remember about 15 years ago someone made a plug-in that put Amazon prices for books on other bookshop sites, so you could compare easily. This seems to be a slightly more advanced version of that.

      Like the old Amazon link plug-in I don't think it will take off, because people looking for bargains already know to check Google and PriceSpy etc. The intersection of people who don't know how to use Google but do know how to find and install this plug-in is going to be vanishingly small.

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    17. Re:So they remove features people use... by houghi · · Score: 1

      So first, if it will work, the bloat will be implemented, taking away developers from things that users actually want that have been removed, due to lack of developers and to make Firefox less bloaty.

      Second, if they do this, companies can pay Firefox to get a place in their pricing, meaning that not all companies will be able or willing to pay, regardless if they have a lower and better price.So that means, by default, it will not work as advertised.

      So: Unwanted bloat is added. Wanted bloat is removed. I still have to do my own research to verify what the the add-on was supposed to tell me. I somehow do not see myself as a winner here.

      This word "everybody". I do not think it means that you think it means.

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    18. Re:So they remove features people use... by DarkRookie2 · · Score: 1

      That's why we have rich extension mechanisms, right?

      Well, not anymore.

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    19. Re:So they remove features people use... by epine · · Score: 1

      What the hell is wrong with the Mozilla Foundation? Just focus on making a minimal, high-quality, open source browser.

      That's funny. I think Nassim Taleb is a bit of a blowhard. He was interviewed again not so long ago on EconTalk about Skin in the Game. There he spends about twenty minutes pointing out the obvious: he who doesn't survive doesn't play. By the end of this, I'm left holding my head in both hands and groaning from the obviousness of it all.

      And then here I am on Slashdot, and the received wisdom (+5) is "just keep doing what you're doing, the absorbing boundary of non-existence is smaller than it appears in your side view mirror".

      The fires of Isengard will spread. And the woods of Tuckborough and Buckland will burn. And all that was once green and good in this world will be gone. There won't be a Shire, Pippin.

      But here we just +5ed a post more naive than Pippin's least prudent half hour from the entire trilogy. And my god, there were moments when Pippin should have thrown himself down just about any deep well available.

    20. Re:So they remove features people use... by higuita · · Score: 1

      1- this tests are usually very small team and most of the times not even set management or whatever, it's something some developer wants to test or thinks it may be useful. They still have to do their own tasks. Think as "they are allowed to work some time on open source projects" and in this project, it is a firefox add-on

      2- Of course you can not include ALL shops, that is a big project on it own... but this is exactly just like search engines... Do search engines find everything? do they work for everyone? no, of course not... but they paid to be included and it is enough for most people

      So: unless you install it, no bload is added. Normal firefox developement is still done. What it does, i too do not care, but for some people it may be useful... that is what this is trying to check... Is it useful?!

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    21. Re:So they remove features people use... by higuita · · Score: 1

      do not blame mozilla to try to find some more funding sources... all features they added where conservative, did little or no tracking and could all be disabled.
      Yes, not perfect, but if google funding terminates, they would be in a bad financial position, so more funding sources is good.
      One way to avoid this kind of features is to donate money to mozilla... have you ever donate to then? :)
      no need to reply of course, even if you donated, many people that complain never donated anything

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    22. Re:So they remove features people use... by higuita · · Score: 1

      pocket is a product they acquired... if they didn't use it in anyplace it would be a waste of money...
      and while you do not use it, i know people that do use it. I too would prefer to have it as a add-on, but the code needed for it is also very small, so not a big bloat too

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  4. Jesus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Who the fuck cares

  5. fuck no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    keep that shit out of the browser.

    develop and release as separate extensions, and most people wouldn't have a problem with 'features' like this from mozilla.. since one like this would make 'em a little money and less dependent upon search engine deals.

  6. You had ONE job: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not to be a whore.

  7. There's already an extension for this. by idontusenumbers · · Score: 2

    These sorts of sites have existed for decades and there's already an extension for firefox to do this.

    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-...

  8. Why embed this in a browser? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously. Why does "Price Wise" need to be a browser feature, yet another piece of (unwanted, unneeded) bloat-ware? I can *remotely* imagine a use for the "Email Tabs" thing, but cannot imagine actually ever using it myself. For sure, if these experiments continue on to become full-fledged browser features, they will be two more things I will disable. Thankfully, I have Experiments disabled in FF.

    Dear Mozilla, Concentrate on making a *browser* not a kitchen sink -- we already have Emacs for that.* :-)

    [ * Said as a long, long time Emacs user... ]

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    1. Re:Why embed this in a browser? by higuita · · Score: 0

      Go this comment, exactly the same response!

      https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

      Seriously, some people like to panic over everything!

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    2. Re:Why embed this in a browser? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      I totally agree, but why are they adding this kind of bloat to Firefox?

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    3. Re:Why embed this in a browser? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Test feature. Have to manually install. Live your username and RTFA.

    4. Re:Why embed this in a browser? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 0

      Your sarcasm detector is broken, friend.

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    5. Re:Why embed this in a browser? by mccalli · · Score: 1

      Does anyone remember Phoenix? It was the browser born from the bloat of Mozilla, created by someone outside the Mozilla organisation. Bloat stripped out - just a quick browser, with a couple of themes. After a series of naming contests and odd copyright disputes (Firebird) it became....Firefox.

      It's time for another Phoenix project.

    6. Re:Why embed this in a browser? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must work for the Mozilla Foundation. If that's true, please communicate to your wonderful peers that the foundation has gone way off the last couple of years and have been implementing stupid features that HAVE NO BUSINESS of being part of a browser.

      Pocket
      Social features
      Geo tagging
      Safebrowsing that calls home to Google
      Telemetry
      Removing users' ability to easily disable Javascript, without installing 3rd party add ons.
      Canvas detection

      You should also be fixing bugs instead of spending time on updating your logo.

      There are good reasons why Firefox forks such as Waterfox and Palemoon have been gaining steady user base. Think about it.

    7. Re:Why embed this in a browser? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is so many price tracking software out there I don't know why they've bothered doing this. It looks like they're trying to copy what https://prisync.com/ is doing. Oh well, I'm switching to another browser, again!

  9. IMPERSONATING me AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    See subject: Hope you're RIGHT (considering I'm only sure hosts stop portsmash vs. Spectre/Meltdown) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm...

    I pity c6gunner caught impersonating me (his name's the submitter signing "APK") https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    * He tried to INSULT me & so I made him a COMPLETELY FAIR CHALLENGE he couldn't meet or beat by showing me he's done better work in the past prior to his impersonating me there.

    (You shouldn't throw stones when you live in a glass house boys - especially vs. me: RIGHT, ZIP? https://developers.slashdot.or... )

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts stop portsmash (by blocking download sources of its mailcious exes doing it) https://it.slashdot.org/commen... not Spectre/Meltdown AFAIK @ least - & YOU FAIL THIS PORTFILTERING TEST liar https://yro.slashdot.org/comme... (my program won't allow that error) so cut your lies as you IMPERSONATE me you pitiful loser... apk

    1. Re: IMPERSONATING me AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Okay, so c6gunner "impersonated" you once. His username is on that post. Fine.

      Prove that you've been impersonated more than that single time. Your allegations and anonymous coward replies are insufficient evidence to prove r
      It.

      Provide proof or shut the fuck up.

  10. Changing objectives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Firefox isn't a browser anymore, it's a private brand/company, and should be treated as such.

  11. APK is a proven lying retard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You really are total fucking retarded, aren't you.
    Let's see if you can follow along and discover why you are proven to be a lying retard.
    First you state multiple times that hosts does port filtering.
    Then when called out for clearly stating a lie you decided to double down on the lie and restate it.
    The when confronted about your now proven false statements that you failed to show any evidence for you declare that you won like a retard.
    So then several months go by and someone points out that you have stated that hosts does port filtering you deny that it does finally but at this point you bring your shit toy program into it trying to make it look like people were saying that your program did the filtering. You were the first person to tie the two together as no one else said or implied that but you attempted to lie by twisting what was actually said to try to make yourself look good.
    Now you post more of your bullshit like what is above in a further attempt to deflect and deceive people as you attempt to make yourself look good but the premise you started from was one of your many lies so that is also a lie.

    Face it your lies have been exposed many times before, this is just the most recent. Your failure has been documented for all to see. Now go away retard.

  12. Development priorities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They have three "engineers" (lol) working on pointless fluff intrinsically tied to a Google service, but couldn't spare a single person to maintain the built-in RSS reader, which encourages a decentralized internet and serves users instead of sponsors? Ok then.

    1. Re:Development priorities by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      They have three "engineers" (lol) working on pointless fluff intrinsically tied to a Google service, but couldn't spare a single person to maintain the built-in RSS reader, which encourages a decentralized internet and serves users instead of sponsors? Ok then.

      Does Mozilla get money from Google? (yes)
      Does Google make money when people use RSS instead of using a browser and their services (Search, News)? (no)

      There are your reasons.

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  13. There is no doubt anymore. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pure sadism is exercised daily in all forms, and the "software world" is no exception. This is where all kinds of psychopaths get to "shine" by doing the exact opposite of what users want, all the time, and still get away with it because the only ones who give a shit anymore are dying from old age and the new generation of "coders" are a bunch of lowlives who couldn't code their way out of a plastic bag.

    I hate this world.

  14. 3rd party service? by mysidia · · Score: 1

    This looks like another thing that belongs as a 3rd party addon. This is just a 3rd party service that tracks prices in some way and does PUSH notifications. Anyone could write such plugin. I see no reason for the core browser team to be doing this.

    1. Re:3rd party service? by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 2

      Ah, but this probably tracks you tracking the prices. That's data that can be sold!

    2. Re:3rd party service? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      This is just a 3rd party service that tracks prices in some way and does PUSH notifications.

      Problem solved ...

      user_pref("dom.push.connection.enabled", false);
      user_pref("dom.push.enabled", false);
      user_pref("dom.webnotifications.enabled", false);
      user_pref("dom.webnotifications.serviceworker.enabled", false);

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  15. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When a browser company starts caring more about shopping features than improvement, that's when I know they sold out.

  16. SIMPLE TEST u FAIL & FACT U IMPERSONATE ME by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    0.0.0.0 test1.com:53
    0.0.0.0 test2.com:53
    0.0.0.0 jowie.com
    0.0.0.0 jealous.com
    0.0.0.0 jowie.com
    0.0.0.0 test3.com
    0.0.0.0 borlnd.com
    0.0.0.0 tester.com

    * RUN THAT DATASET THRU MY PROGRAM & WHAT RESULTS COME OUT THAT HAVE A "PORT FILTER" ATTACHED?

    NONE!

    Only borlnd.com, tester.com, test3.com, jealous.com & jowie.com (last 2 are for YOU, lol) REMAIN (no filters on them)

    MY PROGRAM EVEN PREVENTS THAT MISTAKE!

    APK

    P.S.=> THIS PROVES MY PROGRAM'S OUTPUT DOES NOT ALLOW "PORT FILTERING" ENTRIES IN HOSTS as I said!

    ALL DESPITE you IMPERSONATING ME & LYING (for YEARS now) saying hosts do + STALKING ME via UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS too (loser weezil).

    It's LONG PROVEN YOU DO THAT c6gunner https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    + your LIES saying I have a MacOS model (I don't YET) OR that hosts cure Spectre/Meltdown (hosts don't but you LIE impersonating ME saying they do - FILTERS in hosts too!)... apk

  17. petrol prices by bigtreeman · · Score: 1

    tracking petrol price fluctuations would be immense

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  18. Next up: Price Line by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    Soon to be added retailers will be airlines and hotels, etc... and this feature will be renamed "Price Line". The pop-ups will have a picture of William Shatner and/or Kaley Cuoco with audio (hopefully matching the photo displayed) hawking the new lower price ...

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  19. Can I disable Price Wise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it is unwise to have something keep a track on where we are going, what we are looking, etc... Oh wait, that already happens...

  20. And about this "Email Tabs" thing ... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    From the Email Tabs Test Pilot page:

    Email Tabs currently works with the Gmail webmail client, but we’re working to bring it to other popular webmail providers as well.

    And how does *that* work? Do I have to be currently logged into Gmail, so Firefox can screw with it, or provide my Gmail credentials to Firefox, so Firefox can access it via some API, or will the mail originate from Mozilla? None of those options sound appealing. In addition, I don't use Gmail via the browser, except to periodically log in, permanently delete things in the Trash, and log out, I use Thunderbird.

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    1. Re:And about this "Email Tabs" thing ... by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      How about I don't use Gmail. Tying it to Gmail sounds stupid.

      I'm on a Mac and I wouldn't use this service anyways. I just print the page and under the PDF menu there's an option to 'email PDF' and one to 'save PDF' if I feel like saving it instead of emailing.

  21. here we go again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anybody make a web browser? That's all I want, a web browser.

  22. APK just can't stop being a retard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    You really just can't stop being a retard can you? You are the only one who brought your shit program into this as I showed in my previous post and you did so in a failed attempt to make it look like others said things they didn't. You keep trying to lie by confusing the subject in an attempt to deflect away from your exposed failures.

    Besides I'm still waiting for that list that blocks all hosts in the APK-is-a-retard.com domain, or even just 1% of them but you keep running because you can't produce it. I keep asking that you prove your shit works but you can't because it is all bullshit, lies, and failure from the retarded bitch APK. You keep dodging that simple challenge because deep down you know you can't because all you are is failure. You made a bullshit claim so now back it up and show the fucking list or admit that you fucking lost like the loser you will forever be. There are only 2 options now so either put up or shut up. Trying to weasel out will mean that you failed and that your statements are a lie and it will become another reference point when pointing out your unending lies.

  23. STILL impersonating me, AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I pity c6gunner caught impersonating me (his name's the submitter signing "APK") https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    * He tried to INSULT me & so I made him a COMPLETELY FAIR CHALLENGE he couldn't meet or beat by showing me he's done better work in the past prior to his impersonating me there.

    (You shouldn't throw stones when you live in a glass house boys - especially vs. me: RIGHT, ZIP? https://developers.slashdot.or... CAUGHT LYING TOO (you DO have a registered /. acc't. but STALK me anonymously instead - punk) https://news.slashdot.org/comm... )

    APK

    P.S.=> Grow up weezils - you'll continue LOSING to me like you did here via this SIMPLE test https://news.slashdot.org/comm... & you're just "BUTTHURT" acting worse than women because you lose to me constantly, failing... apk

    1. Re: STILL impersonating me, AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APk likes to molest man boys.

      - bruce weener

    2. Re: STILL impersonating me, AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ZIP why did you try downmod hide all the times APK caught you telling lies and messing up on tech https://news.slashdot.org/comm... ? Ashamed?

  24. APK is all talk and no knowledge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    (You shouldn't throw stones when you live in a glass house boys - especially vs. me: RIGHT, ZIP?)

    Thanks for bringing up such a great thread, where I smashed your misconceptions about C++ and proved you are a know-nothing in the software industry. Everything sees me tear through your tissue-paper lies. You're an utter disgrace to engineering when you can't bother to read ISO specs for the languages you criticize. You end up making up false claims about topics you know nothing about. If you want to stop proving yourself a fool, then stay silent.

    Sadly APK thinks that magic bytes in his software's self-check is verification. But sadly this can't work because you can't verify his software without running it first. It's the classic chicken-and-egg problem. His anti-tampering mechanisms do not allow detection of look-alikes or modified copies. A simple digital signature, in addition to whatever other anti-tampering he chooses is a simple way. The key is not to make the mistakes that others have made with management of thier keys. News stories of mismanagement of keys is not an argument to ignore best practices in security. APK is profoundly ignorant here. He's a tough pupil that doesn't take lessons easily, repeating myself will eventually get it through his thick skull. (we know this because APK repeats himself thousands of times a year)

    ZIP

    P.S. => This is the 19th time I have schooled your ass. Have you learned to eat crow yet?

  25. They can make money off this by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    eventually they'll steer folks to deals. Ever since google stopped paying them they've been looking for new sources of revenue.

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  26. Aw! Pissed you FAIL my test? Yes, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Aw! Pissed you FAIL my test that PROVES YOU WRONG? Yes, lol https://news.slashdot.org/comm... & you can TRY impersonate me as you do (weak, like you) but you GET CAUGHT DOING IT (c6gunner) https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    * LMAO - I also CAUGHT "ZIP" LYING saying he doesn't have a registered account YET SAYS HE DOWNMOD BOMBS MY POSTS quoting him proving he lies https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts specifics do NOT cause wildcard false positives & DGA trackers exist, I've used them & SHOWN YOU LISTS OF THEM (they do what you ask & I get the domain names & block them - simple - you LOSE lol)... apk

  27. How long before they sell out and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...attempt to monetize this and start only posting "deals" from partners who give them a cut from referrals?

  28. All I need is c6gunner's 1 example... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    All I need is c6gunner's 1 example to show what kind of pussy punks infest this place IMPERSONATING me https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    * Thanks for proving to EVERYONE you're total SHIT, lol...

    APK

    P.S.=> You're disgusting IMPERSONATING me & YES, in your UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous STALKING you're doing to me now too - & you KNOW you're shit, HIDING... apk

  29. ZIP's SELF-DESTRUCTION vs. me w/ proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    ZIP caught lying he has no account https://news.slashdot.org/comm... yet ADMIT HE DOWNMOD BOMBS ME (how to do that minus an account on /.? Not possible - he lied again).

    ZIP blows it on C++ & more:

    "P.S. => I'm a much better programmer than APK, as has been proven." - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082)

    FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    * I have DOZENS of /.ers saying they like & use my work - praising it & it's good effects on more speed, security, reliability & anonymity PLUS 100,000++ users of it worldwide - DO YOU??

    HELL NO!

    You also LIED trying to "take credit" for a SOLUTION to C++ string buffer overflow issues I SOLVED WAY BEFORE YOU https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... proof's right there scumbag punk you are.

    I also shot you to pieces on your github LIE @ the root of all that too (yes that's you too scumbag) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> CodeSigning you "praise" (I don't for GOOD REASONS & I use something better) can & HAS been STOLEN & ABUSED https://www.helpnetsecurity.co... MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen... ... apk

    1. Re:ZIP's SELF-DESTRUCTION vs. me w/ proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ZIP caught lying he has no account yet ADMIT HE DOWNMOD BOMBS ME (how to do that minus an account on /.? Not possible - he lied again).

      That's the joke. I realize now that aspies don't get jokes.

      I guess you're the joke now, look at your fucking pathetic meltdown.

      ZIP

    2. Re:ZIP's SELF-DESTRUCTION vs. me w/ proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ZIP you're a joke trying to downmod hide APK catching you in your lies and technical mistakes https://news.slashdot.org/comm... Ashamed? You should be.

  30. Run, Forrest: RUN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I asked you a simple question, to prove that you've been impersonated more than in the single post you keep linking to. You ran from my simple question.

    If your allegations are true, then surely you can provide proof beyond a single c6gunner post. Remember, anyone can post anonymously and they're "unidentifiable" (your word), so anonymous posts aren't evidence of impersonation.

    Stop running and answer the damn question.

    1. Re:Run, Forrest: RUN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He answered you with proof scum impersonate him and he caught another one of you lying today too https://news.slashdot.org/comm... apk is merely proving you are the shit he says you are. You helped him do it.

  31. Run, Forrest: RUN! Again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rather than answer the question, APK, you're still running. You're pretending to not be APK, but everyone knows it's you posting that. You're not fooling anyone. But this shows your allegations of impersonation are bogus and you can't prove anything beyond a single c6gunner post. You're an embarrassment and a liar.

    Marcus Allen would disapprove of your cowardice and lying. Your hero would never lower himself to the type of bevaior you continue to demonstrate. This would be like Marcus Allen running in fear from defensive linemen and curling up in a ball in his own end zone.

    You are a coward and a liar, who ran from my challenge.

    1. Re:Run, Forrest: RUN! Again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ZIP you try to minusmod hide times APK annihilated you catching you lying, messing up tech and more https://news.slashdot.org/comm... ZIP you're the retarded failure bitch you just projected you are and proof is in that link of it with you trying to minusmod hide it. You are pitiful zip. c6gunner is the only example apk needed to show you do impersonate him like butthurt children you are.

    2. Re: Run, Forrest: RUN! Again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The parent was posted by Alexander Peter Kowalski, who is too much of a chickenshit to sign his post APK.

    3. Re: Run, Forrest: RUN! Again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ZIP why are you downmod hiding the many times APK caught you lying and screwing up against him https://news.slashdot.org/comm... ? Ashamed of your fails?

    4. Re: Run, Forrest: RUN! Again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK still isn't man enough to stop running from my challenge.

    5. Re: Run, Forrest: RUN! Again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not much of a man ZIP. You're trying to hide your fails against apk you caught lying and screwing up tech https://news.slashdot.org/comm... Ashamed? You should be.

  32. ZIP's SELF-DESTRUCTION vs. me w/ proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    ZIP caught lying he has no account https://news.slashdot.org/comm... yet ADMIT HE DOWNMOD BOMBS ME (how to do that minus an account on /.? Not possible - he lied again).

    ZIP blows it on C++ & more:

    "P.S. => I'm a much better programmer than APK, as has been proven." - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082)

    FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    * I have DOZENS of /.ers saying they like & use my work - praising it & it's good effects on more speed, security, reliability & anonymity PLUS 100,000++ users of it worldwide - DO YOU??

    HELL NO!

    You also LIED trying to "take credit" for a SOLUTION to C++ string buffer overflow issues I SOLVED WAY BEFORE YOU https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... proof's right there scumbag punk you are.

    I also shot you to pieces on your github LIE @ the root of all that too (yes that's you too scumbag) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> CodeSigning you "praise" (I don't for GOOD REASONS & I use something better) can & HAS been STOLEN & ABUSED https://www.helpnetsecurity.co... MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen... ... apk

  33. All I need is c6gunner's 1 example... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All I need is c6gunner's 1 example to show what kind of pussy punks infest this place IMPERSONATING me https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    * Thanks for proving to EVERYONE you're total SHIT, lol...

    APK

    P.S.=> You're disgusting IMPERSONATING me & YES, in your UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous STALKING you're doing to me now too - & you KNOW you're shit, HIDING... apk

  34. Aw! Pissed you FAIL my test? Yes, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aw! Pissed you FAIL my test that PROVES YOU WRONG? Yes, lol https://news.slashdot.org/comm... & you can TRY impersonate me as you do (weak, like you) but you GET CAUGHT DOING IT (c6gunner) https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    * LMAO - I also CAUGHT "ZIP" LYING saying he doesn't have a registered account YET SAYS HE DOWNMOD BOMBS MY POSTS quoting him proving he lies https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts specifics do NOT cause wildcard false positives & DGA trackers exist, I've used them & SHOWN YOU LISTS OF THEM (they do what you ask & I get the domain names & block them - simple - you LOSE lol)... apk

  35. SIMPLE TEST u FAIL & FACT U IMPERSONATE ME by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    0.0.0.0 test1.com:53
    0.0.0.0 test2.com:53
    0.0.0.0 jowie.com
    0.0.0.0 jealous.com
    0.0.0.0 jowie.com
    0.0.0.0 test3.com
    0.0.0.0 borlnd.com
    0.0.0.0 tester.com

    * RUN THAT DATASET THRU MY PROGRAM & WHAT RESULTS COME OUT THAT HAVE A "PORT FILTER" ATTACHED?

    NONE!

    Only borlnd.com, tester.com, test3.com, jealous.com & jowie.com (last 2 are for YOU, lol) REMAIN (no filters on them)

    MY PROGRAM EVEN PREVENTS THAT MISTAKE!

    APK

    P.S.=> THIS PROVES MY PROGRAM'S OUTPUT DOES NOT ALLOW "PORT FILTERING" ENTRIES IN HOSTS as I said!

    ALL DESPITE you IMPERSONATING ME & LYING (for YEARS now) saying hosts do + STALKING ME via UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS too (loser weezil).

    It's LONG PROVEN YOU DO c6gunner https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    + your LIES saying I have a MacOS model (I don't YET) OR that hosts cure Spectre/Meltdown (hosts don't but you LIE impersonating ME saying they do - FILTERS in hosts too!)... apk

  36. STILL impersonating me, AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I pity c6gunner caught impersonating me (his name's the submitter signing "APK") https://linux.slashdot.org/com...

    * He tried to INSULT me & so I made him a COMPLETELY FAIR CHALLENGE he couldn't meet or beat by showing me he's done better work in the past prior to his impersonating me there.

    (You shouldn't throw stones when you live in a glass house boys - especially vs. me: RIGHT, ZIP? https://developers.slashdot.or... CAUGHT LYING TOO (you DO have a registered /. acc't. but STALK me anonymously instead - punk) https://news.slashdot.org/comm... )

    APK

    P.S.=> Grow up weezils - you'll continue LOSING to me like you did here via this SIMPLE test https://news.slashdot.org/comm... & you're just "BUTTHURT" acting worse than women because you lose to me constantly, failing... apk

  37. ITS A WEB BROWSER! golly gee whiz, idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mozilla:

    1. FIX THE DAMNED BUGS!
    2. Re-enable the option to disable javascript (and better yet: make it a per-site option)
    3. Re-enable/fix the option to block pop-up windows.
    4. Make it obey the caching limit option and NOT cash gigabytes of video ads and thrash hard drives.
    5. FIX THE DAMNED BUGS!

    AFTER all that, and it you really desperately want to write a program to do all that non-web-browsing stuff, CREAT A NEW STAND-ALONE app. I recommentd you call it "CrappyFox" and give it a desktop icon that is a variant of the poo emoji.

  38. APK admits he is a retarded bitch failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    I see you chose the route of admitting that you are a retarded bitch failure. You attempt to deflect and then ramble off topic trying to blame others for your continued unending failure. Since you didn't produce the list we are now forced to conclude that in fact you provide nothing but bullshit and lies. Like the retard you are you will likely now declare that you won without ever managing to produce any evidence to support your claim of victory and were unable to refute any criticism leveled against you. I will now point to this as another one of your continued failures and losses.

    1. Re:APK admits he is a retarded bitch failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ZIP you try to minusmod hide times APK annihilated you catching you lying, messing up tech and more https://news.slashdot.org/comm... ZIP you're the retarded failure bitch you just projected you are and proof is in that link of it with you trying to minus moderate hide it. You are pitiful zip.

    2. Re:APK admits he is a retarded bitch failure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not ZIP, but if you aren't APK then you are an even bigger retarded bitch than he is. Even APK won't stand up for himself because he knows he lost so why would you? If you are APK then that is just another one of your lies that you tell which is you pretend there is support for you. Either way it doesn't make the retarded bitch APK look good.

  39. How about astrological readings? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can we also have a feature to find the best pizza?

    maybe mozilla can add a "where is my cat?" function, and a feature to help me pick lottery numbers, and a special feature to store all of my personal info and then also a button I can click to help me give all of that private info to RussianHackers.com with a single-click?

    Do programmers who graduated after January 2000 have any flipping clue about writing a program and making that program have features that actually line-up with what the program is supposed to be? Do they even know how to hunt bugs? Do they have any self control, or are they all like the dogs in "Up" who are completely distracted at ther mention of the word "squirrel"?

  40. ZIP's SELF-DESTRUCTION vs. me w/ proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ZIP caught lying he has no account https://news.slashdot.org/comm... yet ADMIT HE DOWNMOD BOMBS ME (how to do that minus an account on /.? Not possible - he lied again).

    ZIP blows it on C++ & more:

    "P.S. => I'm a much better programmer than APK, as has been proven." - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082)

    FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    * I have DOZENS of /.ers saying they like & use my work - praising it & it's good effects on more speed, security, reliability & anonymity PLUS 100,000++ users of it worldwide - DO YOU??

    HELL NO!

    You also LIED trying to "take credit" for a SOLUTION to C++ string buffer overflow issues I SOLVED WAY BEFORE YOU https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... proof's right there scumbag punk you are.

    I also shot you to pieces on your github LIE @ the root of all that too (yes that's you too scumbag) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> CodeSigning you "praised" (I don't for GOOD REASONS & I use something better) can & HAS been STOLEN & ABUSED https://www.helpnetsecurity.co... MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen... ... apk

  41. Shame on them for trying to make money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone knows that software companies (and the people who work for them) should take risks and toil for no money just so all of us can get free stuff. Come on, guys. Get with the program already!

    1. Re: Shame on them for trying to make money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are a NON profit company for fucks sakes. Their goal with writing software should NOT BE making money first. That should be an afterthought.

    2. Re: Shame on them for trying to make money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Almost every 'NON profit' makes money. They just use that money to pay their bills, which includes paying employees to work for them. Just because some organization is non profit does not mean it is fully staffed by volunteers or that it always gives away its services for free. Wake up.

  42. APK admits he is a retarded bitch failure part 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you were a man, you'd own up to your BS rather than hiding like a chickenshit. Everyone knows you're APK, you're just too cowardly to admit you got caught, so you pretend to not be APK. It really makes me wonder how decent people like your parents could raise a complete and total piece of shit like you, Alexander Peter Kowalski.

  43. Re:APK admits he is a retarded bitch failure part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ZIP why are you trying to downmod hide times apk caught you lying and messing up against him https://news.slashdot.org/comm... ? Ashamed?

  44. No! by BrendaEM · · Score: 1

    Mozilla is really whoring Firefox. How low will it go. Did you notice there was an ad, almost like this post in Slashot?

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  45. For those who don't know what Test Pilot is... by Torodung · · Score: 4, Informative

    So many respondents to this article, in their haste to hate on Mozilla, haven't a clue what Test Pilot is. It's a series of experiments, hosted on a web page, that you need an add-on installed just to get access to the experiments. Then you choose which experiments you want as add-ons. Or ignore them. Your choice. Or don't install Test Pilot at all and ignore the whole thing.

    Nobody's bloating up the browser. You'd literally have to install two separate extensions just to get this on your Firefox.

    1. Re:For those who don't know what Test Pilot is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but they are wasting effort on this instead of what we'd like them to do which is simply to make a fast elan bulletproof browser that puts the user first.

    2. Re:For those who don't know what Test Pilot is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But why are they wasting time on this, when there are so many things yet to be fixed after they broke extensions with their Quantum upgraded browser?

      Why not use their scarce resources to make it a good browser again, instead of dicking around with new test programs?

    3. Re:For those who don't know what Test Pilot is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not the question. The question is "why are they wasting time and resources on frivolous crap like this?"

      It simply doesn't belong in the browser and could easily be served by third party extensions. There are so many other things Mozilla could spend their resources on, and yet they decide to waste them on crap like this, or pocket, or other lame shit nobody ever asked for.

      Address the real complaint and stop making bullshit excuses.

    4. Re:For those who don't know what Test Pilot is... by houghi · · Score: 2

      OK. Ket us look at the test-pilot part. There are people working on it. Meaning they are not working on other things that are actually browser related. This is Firefox thast is working on it. They should be working on things people are asking for.

      Next: if the pilot fails, they would have wasted a lot of time. This might be the best outcome.
      If the pilot is a success, it will be implemented into the browser, the moment they have found a way to commercialize it. (Not that hard)
      That will be a bad thing, because if I look up at the prices of toothpaste, I do not want Amazon and others know that I am doing that. There is a reason I use Duckduck.

      So the best moment to complain about it is before it went into production. As a result of that, there can be three outcomes.
      1) The outcry was large enough, so they stop developing it.
      2) The outcome was good enough as a warning, so they won't ever put it into the default browser
      3) They do not care and put it in anyway.

      Although option 3 is the most likely outcome, we should be at least trying to get option one, in hope to get at least option 2.

      A test pilot is not just the technical part. The backlash must be part of the pilot as well. How is it received? And the answer is "bad" (at leats here).

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  46. create bookmark mailto:?subject=interesting&bo by Herve5 · · Score: 1

    IIRC there was a way, in any browser, to create a bookmark replacing its url with a string like
    emailto:?subject=interesting url&body= [here I don"t remember how to pass the url] but I used for years in my fossin macintoshes, before switching to Linux (and I forgot the bookmark ;-)
    In the formula above I intentionally wrote "emailto" instead of mailto otherwise you just get a ink indeed, like that : mailto:?subject=blah...
    Anyone to help?
    I'd love to, well, forget about gmail... and specific addons...

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  47. ZIP you = "FORREST chump" w/ proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Prove this: "I'm a much better programmer than APK, as has been proven." - by Anonymous Coward ZIP on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:27PM (#57449082)

    FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    You're a BETTER programmer than I, quoted saying so above?

    WHERE'S PROOF OF WORK YOU DO EVEN /.ers LIKE & USE?

    It's NOT!

    * I have DOZENS of /.ers saying they like & use my work - praising it & it's good effects on more speed, security, reliability & anonymity PLUS 100,000++ users of it worldwide - DO YOU??

    HELL NO!

    You also LIED trying to "take credit" for a SOLUTION to C++ string buffer overflow issues I SOLVED WAY BEFORE YOU https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... proof's right there scumbag punk you are.

    I also shot you to pieces on your github LIE @ the root of all that too (yes that's you too scumbag) https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    LIAR ZIP says he has no account "I don't have an account, so I don't have mod points" https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    Yet LIAR ZIP says he downmods my posts (IMPOSSIBLE MINUS AN ACCOUNT on /.): "I down-modded a few of your post on other threads" - by Anonymous Coward "ZIP" on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:31AM (#57461058) FROM https://yro.slashdot.org/comme...

    ZIP HIDES THIS DOWNMODDING IT TWICE as it EXPOSES his bullshit https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    APK

    P.S.=> CodeSigning you "praise" (I don't for GOOD REASONS & I use something better) can & HAS been STOLEN & ABUSED https://www.helpnetsecurity.co... MY METHOD CAN'T BE (upmodded +2 INTERESTING in CODING FOR DEFCON no less) https://it.slashdot.org/commen... ... apk

  48. And now bitch APK goes full retard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've told you many times before that I'm not ZIP or c6gunner. I see you chose to go full retard because your retarded bitch ass got stomped twice by me now here. Once because you can't deliver on what you say and once because you got caught posting fake support for yourself. The fact that it took you over 14,000 lines of code to write a file aggregator speaks volumes of your inability to write quality code. The fact that you don't understand code signing and why it is superior to your shitty self check also speaks volumes of your inability to understand standard security concepts. Based off of these I would suggest that no one ever trust your code or your advise on security.

    Now go cry more about your bullshit whining and lies being modded down. Maybe you should rant about khyber, Ol Olsoc, Zontar, whipslash, barb hudson, and arth1 instead.