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Mars Opportunity Rover Appears To Contact Earth; Turns Out To Be a False Alarm (vice.com)

dmoberhaus writes: NASA's Mars Opportunity rover appeared to briefly make contact with the agency's Deep Space Network on Thursday afternoon after 5 months of silence. In June, a dust storm took Opportunity offline and every attempt to bring the rover back to life has failed. NASA scientists were hoping that seasonal winds that sweep the planet from November to February might blow the dust off of Opportunity's solar panels. Was this the rover's first attempt trying to get back into contact with Earth? Update 11/17/18: No. It turns out that the data received by the Deep Space Network was not from the Opportunity rover. "Today [the Deep Space Network website] showed what looked like a signal from Opportunity," JPL said in a tweet. "As much as we'd like to say this was an #OppyPhoneHome moment, further investigation shows these signals were not an Opportunity transmission. Test data or false positives can make it look like a given spacecraft is active on [the Deep Space Network website]. Our work to reestablish comms continues."

55 comments

  1. Amazing Opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to be the *first* to phone home.

    1. Re: Amazing Opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps one day Marsâ(TM) winds will blow the dust off and Opportunity will say, Hey! Remember me?

    2. Re: Amazing Opportunity by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      I suspect that the chance is small, and it definitely had a good run.

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    3. Re: Amazing Opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was the romulans or maybe some Martins Who did it

    4. Re: Amazing Opportunity by ls671 · · Score: 1

      I will be in the vicinity next week-end.

      What do I have to do already? Dust it off and put back on its feet? Roger.

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    5. Re: Amazing Opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's only two options: data either DOES come from Mars or DOES NOT come from Mars. It is very unscientific to announce that test data could be the culprit. Test data is being sent TO Mars without reply. Reply is not written into test data.

    6. Re: Amazing Opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what actually SENT data to Earth?

    7. Re: Amazing Opportunity by mermeid007 · · Score: 1

      NASA is a victim of its own success. Rover was never supposed to be operational at this point. The fact that it is makes it seem like engineering blunders abound when its just a happy surprise if one hears anything. I suspect there are probes/sattellites nearby that rover can communicate with but they can't relay anything to NASA. They could send a team to repair rover, or perhaps some of the communication sattellites between earth and mars can be set up as a relay. There are a couple of sattellites launched in the last few years that might be able to handle a relay. It is very difficult to change a sattelite's mission post launch but it has been done before, not even by NASA, and not even by the european space agency. Of course, seems very likely it will take some top shelf analysis.

    8. Re: Amazing Opportunity by quantumghost · · Score: 1

      I believe the message was from a martian prince there who wanted to reach NASA urgently about some inheritance.

    9. Re: Amazing Opportunity by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Perhaps one day Mars' winds will blow the dust off and Opportunity will say, Hey! Remember me?

      If it doesn't get enough power to call home now it'll freeze to death in the winter, February to May are the coldest months so if no dust devil clears up the panels before that it's the last nail in the coffin. That's on the off chance that nothing else broke and there's a Goldilocks amount of dust covering the panels - too much to call home, not enough to run the batteries dry. The nature of the dust could also be an issue, a bigger storm than ever before could also have whirled up coarser dust that a dust devil will have a harder time clearing. Overall I'd give very slim odds of it coming back to life.

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    10. Re:Amazing Opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dunno; it's twitter and FB accounts are still active and are
      being updated daily by Rover, so what's the problem, NASA?

      CAP === 'geodesy'

  2. In other words by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 2

    It appears that somebody made an inopportune announcement before verifying all the facts.

    1. Re:In other words by pslytely+psycho · · Score: 1

      +1 punny

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    2. Re:In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It appears that somebody made an inopportune announcement before verifying all the facts.

      There are no rovers on Mars.

    3. Re:In other words by michelcolman · · Score: 1

      I, for one, welcome our new, Opportunity-imitating alien overlords.

    4. Re:In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It appears that somebody made an inopportune announcement before verifying all the facts.

      There are no rovers on Mars.

      If you're referring to dogs named Rover, you're probably correct.

    5. Re: In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is No mars and it is not build by aliens

    6. Re: In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no aliens, its built by Mexico

  3. Re:Waaaaiiit a second.. by Bobrick · · Score: 0

    Besides the offtopic, are "the usual suspects" the poor? The fuck is wrong with you?

  4. It's just Ice Warriors by jd · · Score: 1

    They were using Opportunity to align their death ray.

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    1. Re: It's just Ice Warriors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Full power ..... To the death ray

  5. Off topic by jd · · Score: 0

    And UBI isn't free money. Professor Hawking explained it all.

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    1. Re:Off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And UBI isn't free money. Professor Hawking explained it all.

      Hawking will go down in history as a con artist. There were plenty before him, so it's not anything new.

    2. Re:Off topic by jd · · Score: 1

      Jealousy will get you nowhere. Unless you're in politics.

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    3. Re:Off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scientists and rock stars - always happy to step up to the podium and let us know how full of themselves and poorly informed they are about things outside of their area of expertise.

  6. Edge on black holes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Again, a simple question,

    When you identify objects you believe to be black holes, do you ever find ones that you think are edge on?

    I see things like NGC 4261, ... face on, with the event horizon around them, but are there edge on black holes? Long thing structures you think are black holes behind event horizon debris?

    They should be very common.

    1. Re:Edge on black holes by meglon · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure how it relates to Opportunity, or Mars, or the weather on Mars effect on said rover....or anything else here, but lets see what we can do.

      If you look at a galaxy with an AGN that is side-on to us, you would indeed be able to see the debris field surrounding the black hole just like you can with HGC 4261..... IF you could see through the galaxies arms, which would be much denser, much larger, and have a shit ton more matter. One thing you have to realize in that picture... you're not seeing the event horizon... you're only seeing stuff outside of the horizon.

      Most all large galaxies have supermassive black holes at their centers, so yes, every side-on galaxy you see in a picture is also a side on view of it's central SMBH and the debris field around it, you just can't see it because the entire galaxy is in the way. In fact, because we're in one of the arms of the Milky Way, looking at our own SMBH (Sgr A*) is looking at it side-on.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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  7. Re:Wow! You So Funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your Republicanism is underwhelming, it's like you're not even trying to suppress the votes of American citizens. You'll have to work harder if you want the rope of treason, son.

  8. Re: Wow! You So Funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine being 40 years old and so autistic that you thinking submitting this shit is still funny.

  9. HGC 4261 sort of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    HGC 4261, sort of shows the halo effect I'm expecting from a black hole.

    "so yes, every side-on galaxy you see in a picture is also a side on view of it's central SMBH"

    That's an interesting point. Yeh maybe that's what I'm looking for.

    1. Re:HGC 4261 sort of by meglon · · Score: 1

      It's really all about how much stuff you can see through. 4261 doesn't have spiral arms, so seeing the very center is possible. It'd be the same for a spiral that we were viewing face on. A side-on view of a spiral is just too much junk to see through.

      In that picture, that halo effect is just matter in the accretion disc; the event horizon is deep inside that little bright point at the very center.... and obscured to us by all the matter that makes up that bright point.

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  10. Turns out just a robo call by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah just a robo call for fake Microsoft service. At least we have another one soon to be en-route in the near future.

    1. Re: Turns out just a robo call by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jim Kelly from Microsoft here....

  11. Re: Wow! You So Funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Imagine being 40 years old and so autistic that you thinking submitting this shit is still funny.

    That's the sad fact. There are unfortunately plenty of mentally unstable people who cannot join the rest of the workforce and instead are stuck at home on a computer all the time. This is the sort of thing they do to keep themselves occupied.

    Our tax dollars at work.

  12. Is it plugged in? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

    Have you tried turning it off and then on again?

    1. Re:Is it plugged in? by GrumpySteen · · Score: 1

      Yes (sort of)

      Over the life of the program, the Opportunity and Curiosity rovers have been rebooted and reset a number of times.

    2. Re:Is it plugged in? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      As with all older electronics, the act of turning it off could be what killed it.

    3. Re:Is it plugged in? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As with all older electronics, the act of turning it off could be what killed it.

      Yep, just ask that computer they found in a wall after the power failed.

      It's every sysadmin's nightmare fuel: A mission critical system that's unreachable over the network and cannot be physically reached easily. *shudder* Godspeed NASA. Godspeed.

  13. Re: Wow! You So Funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, there's the die-hard conservative viewpoint; blame the mentally ill for their mental illness, cut funding for health care and eliminate mental health programs, then whine about how society doesn't let the mentally ill starve to death on the street.

  14. Not to fear... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NASA just has to wait a few more years and SpaceX will send somebody to walk over and dust off the solar panels for them.

    1. Re: Not to fear... by spongman · · Score: 1

      And replace all the batteries while it waits.

  15. Ancient Aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am not saying it is aliens, but....

    1. Re:Ancient Aliens by PPH · · Score: 1

      ... it's just Mark Watney.

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  16. Re: Wow! You So Funny! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm perfectly fine with Mr "n*ggerdicks" starving to death on the street. Take your Slashdot shitposting back to 1999 please.

  17. Accidental revert to civilian mission by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hard reset of Opportunity due to critical power loss. Reverted back to original frequency for civilian mission. Quickly scramble to restore military command frequency. Investigation inside military mission to determine root cause and to prevent recurrence. Plausible civilian story with standard specific "test data" and generic "false positive" explanations. Incident monitored before closure.

  18. How could the comms handshake by presidenteloco · · Score: 1

    possibly be mistaken for random "false positive" data?
    That seems preposterous. The handshake presumeably is complex, extended, and extremely specific.

    And if they're instead of talking about only a handful of initial bits of such a sequence, they shouldn't have announced anything.

    This is a weird story.

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  19. And by handshake by presidenteloco · · Score: 1

    I mean initial broadcaster identification and verification sequence (layered, from carrier ping up to digital error-coded message), not really a handshake, because speed of light.

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  20. Phew... help is at hand! by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 1

    It's okay, a well known team of troubleshooters has contacted the rover with this call:

    "Hello, ve are calling from de Vindows Support Center because we have been getting reports that your solar pannels are contaminated with dust and wiruses".

    "Are you sitting in front of your computer?"

    "Do you see a key with de Vindows symbol on it?"

    "Please be hlding that key and pressing the R..."