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Some Birds Are Excellent Tool-Makers (abc.net.au)

Posted by BeauHD on from the bird-brained dept.

brindafella writes: Veterinary scientists from Viena have shown that Goffin's cockatoos can do an excellent job of remaking cardboard into tools to get rewards. This follows on from earlier experiments with the New Caledonian crow that can select tools for its purposes. So, birds are definitely not "bird-brained." "[The study] tells us that the cockatoos' mind is highly flexible and that they can modify their solution to a problem in order to save effort," said Alice Auersperg, a cognitive biologist at the University of Veterinary Medicine Vienna and lead author of the paper.

The Australian Broadcast Company explains how the study was conducted: "[S]ix trained birds were given a piece of cardboard and placed in front of a cage that had food accessible through a small hole, but placed at different distances away. The birds used their beak to cut strips of cardboard they then used to reach the food. Importantly, when the food was close, the birds made a shorter strip. When it was far away, they made a longer strip. But when the researchers made the hole in the cage smaller, only one of the birds was able to fashion their cardboard tool to be narrow enough to fit through the hole. The successful bird was the only female in the group, and the researchers think she was able to do this because her beak was small enough to make a narrow tool."

81 comments

  1. Magpies and Currawongs, too by dwywit · · Score: 1

    I've seen some wonderful things done by those. From simple stuff like holding food down with their claws and ripping bits off with their beak, to using a twig for - something, I couldn't get close enough to see exactly what, but it was a magpie poking at something on or in the ground with twig held in its beak.

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    1. Re:Magpies and Currawongs, too by huiac · · Score: 3, Informative

      For the benefit of any non-antipodeans, I'd observe that these would be Australian magpies - not closely related to Eurasian mapgpies (which are corvids). Australian magpies are smart birds that form complex social structures, and can identify - and establish enduring relationships with - individual people. Currawongs are their near cousins, most common in the East of Asutralia; both are related to the Butcherbirds.

    2. Re:Magpies and Currawongs, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I was lucky enough to have a bunch of juvenile Australian magpies playing in my front yard each morning. I was amazed at how sophisticated their games were: playing 'mugby' with any object they found interesting; hanging upside down and taking turns to pull each other to the ground; teasing other animals... it was like watching cats or dogs at play. After feeding them little bits of roast chook or raw mince a few times, I had a whole Summer's worth of entertainment as they grew up.

    3. Re: Magpies and Currawongs, too by jd · · Score: 2

      Australian magpies are anarchistic punks with an eye phobia. They'd be great CEOs.

      They attack without mercy, they will murder baseball caps (although I have some sympathy there), but if you paint eyes on things, they'll run off.

      The kea is nowhere near as vicious. It's more of a thief/highway robber, that will rip your car tyres apart unless you feed it.

      Intelligence-wise, I suspect the kea is smarter. The kakapo is truly the dunce, as demonstrated when Stephen Fry remade Last Chance to See. They look great, they just don't have the nonce.

      Of course, those two are from those volcanic bits over to the side.

      In Australia, the palm cockatoo has a larger brain/body ratio than any primate but humans. I don't know what the ratio is when you exclude motor neurons, because that's a much more important figure. I suspect it'll remain comparable.

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    4. Re: Magpies and Currawongs, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like fish that has tools on their heads... Sawfish, hammerhead sharks ... That sort of thing

    5. Re:Magpies and Currawongs, too by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I had a potential chance to work in Australia when I was young. Might have tried a bit harder if I'd known about these little buggers, they sound like fun.

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  2. Re: Other birds collude with Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This again? This Aka your regularly scheduled program

  3. Advanced birds by reanjr · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...and then a large, strong, handsome bird saw the wisdom of division of labor and forced the small toolmaking bird into servitude making tools for all birds for the greater good, becoming Avian Stalin.

    1. Re: Advanced birds by jd · · Score: 1

      Interesting comparison. Some birds do divide labour. They're called the successful species. Some don't, they're called extinct.

      Stalin didn't divide labour, quite the opposite. His entire philosophy was about eliminating the divisions. Division is a capitalist idea.

      Division of labor started about 12,000-14,000 years earlier.

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    2. Re: Advanced birds by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Division is a capitalist idea.

      Each according to their abilities is not a capitalist idea, but it is a description of division of labor.

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    3. Re:Advanced birds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having gained tool-making ability, the cockatoo civilisation becomes the second species on Earth to enter the stone age. Still a long time to the age of steel.

    4. Re: Advanced birds by jd · · Score: 1

      Around 11,000 BC, labour was divided. I'm not sure ability had anything to do with it, as brewing was exclusively controlled by women. They're perfectly good brewers, but it's obvious enough ability wasn't the deciding factor.

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  4. Re: LEAVE ME ALONE BULLIES (like you ZIP)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I definitely don't condone bullying. But you're by far the biggest bully on Slashdot, APK. You're a hypocrite to complain about others bullying you when you do far worse. How many people have you harassed online? Thor Schrock? ArsTechnica users? Coren22? Zontar? AmicusNYCL? Ash-Fox? Arth1?

    If you want to stop online bullying, you should start by reforming your own behavior.

  5. pffft by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Sure, crows are smart with tools, but they have shitty social skills.

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    1. Re:pffft by sheramil · · Score: 1

      I take it you're referring to that video of the three crows scolding, pecking and then raping that other, dead crow?

      I've heard about primates doing worse.

    2. Re:pffft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I take it you're referring to that video of the three crows scolding, pecking and then raping that other, dead crow?

      I've heard about primates doing worse.

      I remember seeing a video of two primates given the task of getting a treat from inside a pipe. One primate was larger than the other and even the larger primate was unable to reach in with an arm to pull out the treat. The larger primate then figured out that the smaller primate could fit in the pipe. So, the larger primate forced the smaller one into the pipe a couple times hoping it would try to grab the treat. On the second or third try the smaller primate did in fact come out with the treat. The larger primate stole the treat from the smaller one and ate the treat.

    3. Re:pffft by Aighearach · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You can easily measure the social skills of a bird species by how large of groups they form for shared activities.

      I've seen groups of many thousands of crows who were gathered for no apparent purpose other than some shared social activity. It wasn't mating season, or near a change in weather season, so I'm guessing it was election season.

      Just because crows like combat sports doesn't automatically mean they lack social skills.

    4. Re:pffft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You saw that on pornhub?

    5. Re: pffft by jd · · Score: 1

      Most animals do. Humans are pathetic, worse than chimpanzees in some regards.

      Social skills are something that emerge when resources are plentiful, although you'd have plenty of resources more of the time with better social skills. As such, you'd expect social skills to be subject to evolutionary pressures. They aren't. Evolution doesn't function on emergent phenomena.

      (Chimpanzees occasionally reach a true stone age, complete with cooked food. They lose the skills as easily as they acquire them.)

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    6. Re:pffft by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      Without the larger one investing his own time and effort creating the opportunity the smaller one would have been sitting around unemployed.

      What are you, boy - one of them thar cormanusts?

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    7. Re:pffft by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Sure, crows are smart with tools, but they have shitty social skills.

      First time I read that, I thought you said cows.

  6. Hmmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this mean that wives and mothers have been screwing up their husbands/sons forever?

    1. Re:Hmmmm.... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      Husbands hardly ever get screwed.

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    2. Re: Hmmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure sounds like it. Deafening silence

  7. ack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe they could weaponize them to take out the pigeons.

  8. Re:Other birds collude with Russia by Tough+Love · · Score: 2

    He's in trouble because he hasn't washed his socks in six years and nobody likes it.

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  9. Crows... by jd · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...have been observed to make original tools (ie: not derivative from prior direct or indirect experience or observation) for original problems not encountered in the wild.

    This creates some interesting problems, not least for those people who insist all human creativity is derivative, never inventive. However, that's off topic.

    We also know African Grey parrots can understand the concept of zero and basic mathematics.

    We now have a better understanding of which birds have which sorts of intelligence. It would seem logical, if it hasn't already been done, to use the 9.1T, 13T and next-gen MRI scanners to identify specific structures that might relate to such intelligence.

    Currently, the "whole brain" simulators that exist can't simulate whole human brains. They could certainly simulate the relevant structures in an avian brain, though.

    Once we know what those structures actually do, we can devise experiments via proper models. If the simulator says the brain can learn X with a level of difficulty of Y, you have an experiment. You can study a random assortment of crows or whatever and see if, on average, they do indeed learn X with a difficulty of Y.

    In that case, your model is good enough to describe, define and parameterize non-human intelligence. Which means you can start to do useful things with animal intelligence studies.

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    1. Re:Crows... by xonen · · Score: 2

      Currently, the "whole brain" simulators that exist can't simulate whole human brains. They could certainly simulate the relevant structures in an avian brain, though.

      Ehm no, not by far. There is some progress in the field when it comes to simulating the neurons from insects and worms.

      However, (mapping out and) simulating an avian brain is several magnitudes more complex. It's not that our supercomputers cannot do that, cause maybe they could - especially since no-one said the simulation had to be real-time. It's that it is almost impossible to functionally describe and consequently emulate a brain due to it's sheer complexity.

      To put shortly: we still have no f*g clue how complex brains work. We can try to assign regions to certain progresses - regions that are more active during certain tasks. However, it already turned out that 'all brain' talks to 'all brain' all the time and that those regions are no more than an indicator.

      To add to the difficulty of such endeavor, it is very hard to study a brain in working order. To examine it on microscopic level, the animal generally is no longer alive. For the rest of it workings we have to rely on indirect observations and measurements and theory craft.

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    2. Re:Crows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it is almost impossible to functionally describe and consequently emulate a brain due to it's sheer complexity.

      To put shortly: we still have no f*g clue how complex brains work.

      Or apostrophe's.

      Darn! I wish there was some way to edit.

    3. Re:Crows... by jd · · Score: 0

      Current whole brain simulators can manage a million neurons at 1/30000th speed.

      Since we don't need the whole brain, just the region dealing in problem solving, a million neurons should be adequate. Nor do we need it to be accurate - if all we want is an abstract model that defines a group of problems different types of bird can solve, we need it to be no more accurate than necessary to classify problem solving structures. It doesn't need to reproduce them perfectly.

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    4. Re:Crows... by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      To put shortly: we still have no f*g clue how complex brains work.

      Which is why so-called 'self driving cars' are so incredibly inept at what they're supposed to be able to do. They're using the wrong approach to AI, only focusing on one aspect of brain function. As you point out, we don't have any idea yet how the mechanism that allows a brain to actually 'think' works, therefore we can't build a machine or write software that does the same thing.

    5. Re:Crows... by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      Since we don't need the whole brain, just the region dealing in problem solving..

      ..and since we don't have any idea yet how 'thought' actually works in a living brain, how do you propose we're able to simulate it? It could involve other parts of the brain as well, even if it's in a tiny way.

  10. ...for a small value of "excellent". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me know when I can buy a laser printer made by birds. And I don't care if it's made by male or female birds, you fucking trolls.

    1. Re: ...for a small value of "excellent". by jd · · Score: 1

      Why would they want to make one?

      They have no use for laser printers. And they probably wouldn't be interested in making anything for someone who was insulting them.

      Birds have a sense of magnetic fields. You're much more likely to see them invent an extension to their natural navigation system.

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    2. Re: ...for a small value of "excellent". by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Why would they want to make one?

      They have no use for laser printers

      Why would kids in China want to make iPhones and luxury handbags?

      They have no use for them.

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    3. Re: ...for a small value of "excellent". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have trained crows to pick up cigarette butts, in exchange for peanuts. So yeah, they can find a job. Unlike some posters here.

    4. Re: ...for a small value of "excellent". by jd · · Score: 1

      Yes, they do. People make junk commodities to sell in exchange for something they want. It's the basis of all trade that you exchange low value for high value. That is a use. Indirect, yes, but still a use.

      Stop giving the kids money and they'll stop making the goods, because then the goods will indeed have no use.

      Crows have no interest in anything you could supply. You don't speak crow, assuming they have language, so you can't barter.

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    5. Re: ...for a small value of "excellent". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would they want to make one?

      They have no use for laser printers

      Why would kids in China want to make iPhones and luxury handbags?

      They have no use for them.

      What about to earn money to buy food ?

    6. Re: ...for a small value of "excellent". by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Crows have no interest in anything you could supply.

      Table scraps? I promise you that corvids of all types are interested in those.

      You don't speak crow, assuming they have language, so you can't barter.

      You don't have to speak their language, you only have to communicate.

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    7. Re:...for a small value of "excellent". by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      I've seen a grease monkey fix cars.

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    8. Re: ...for a small value of "excellent". by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Well done. You're officially smarter than jd ( 1658 ).

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    9. Re: ...for a small value of "excellent". by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      You don't speak crow, assuming they have language, so you can't barter.

      Nobody that I know of speaks Doggish or Muttuese. But they're perfectly aware that if they intimidate some woolly human food that's alive so it goes into the pen, or find some feathery human food that's been shot and fallen in the long grass, they'll get tickled and fussed over and get some food for themselves. And they know they get different food, they mustn't take the human food.

      And that's dogs, FFS, which are about the second stupidest thing I can think of at this moment.

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    10. Re: ...for a small value of "excellent". by jd · · Score: 1

      Feel free to ignore the fact that it took 10,000 years for humans and wolves to come to that arrangement, and another 10,000 to domesticated wolves to the point where that arrangement is bred in.

      Tell me how you're doing after you've worked with crows for 20,000 years. Otherwise, the comparison is false. You're not a time lord? Oh, then I guess you'll just need to accept you can't make the comparison.

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  11. Re: Other birds collude with Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    undeniable truths

    lol

  12. tom hanks & bob de niro arrive in peoria? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they're not looking for any loans. this could be it? millions of hanks/de niro admirers are tuning in on the overnet..

  13. Bullying on Slashdot by jd · · Score: 1

    I don't differentiate you from the other bullies. Note "other". Verbal and textual abuse are never acceptable, and that includes the abuse in the post I'm referring to.

    Things to do:
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/rf...
    http://www.faqs.org/faqs/games...
    (B1 applies to all Internet posts)

    Things not to do:
    https://groups.google.com/foru...

    I doubt you, or any other troll, will read any of this, or care even if you do. Why should you? If nothing matters and nothing exists, then netiquette just means better quality nothing.

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  14. Re:LEAVE ME ALONE BULLIES (like you ZIP)... apk by gtall · · Score: 1

    Unfounded accusations? Check. Overselling one's intellect? Check. Composing and selling straw men? Check.

    Trump, is that you?

  15. Re: Other birds collude with Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some tools are excellent bird-makers

  16. Re: Other birds collude with Russia by pslytely+psycho · · Score: 1

    Christ man, I am liberal (not to be confused with progressive) and even I think you're a trolling idiot with an IQ smaller than your shoe size.

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  17. Dont forget penguins. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

    The Penguin comes pre installed with los of tools like awk, grep, sed, emacs, vi, gcc, vim, git ...

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  18. I'm an excellent tool-maker. by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

    Definitely an excellent tool-maker.

    1. Re:I'm an excellent tool-maker. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut up Raymond.

  19. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 0

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  20. Re: LEAVE ME ALONE BULLIES (like you ZIP)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is absolutely true.

  21. Re: 666 days of Trump and he has visited US troops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Name one Republican that gives a fuck about this!

  22. IMPERSONATING ME AGAIN? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & gweihir put the icing on that cake for me right here https://it.slashdot.org/commen... chump!

    LMAO - you are FAILING: It's ALL YOUR KIND ("lowest of the LOW" online & in life - the not-men, the bitchboys) KNOW how to do!

    * ESPECIALLY HERE (love it) https://science.slashdot.org/c...

    (You're a PUNY LITTLE WORM that has to HIDE behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts STALKING ME, or by IMPERSONATING me (PROVING you WISH you were me, lol) & you've FAILED @ every turn vs. me - face facts: YOU ALWAYS WILL!)

    APK

    P.S.=> You LOSE, loser - the only thing you're good @ IS losing, lmao... apk

  23. "Supporting yourself" by AC again? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: I never EVER once START it - you do, so cut the crap freak! I only address "your kind" (lowest of the LOW) in kind if attacked - which you ARE doing & even folks like gweihir KNOW it (as you tried to "stir me up" vs. him before & we discussed it - he did NOT do it & I believe him) https://it.slashdot.org/commen...

    * You're SICK IN THE HEAD & "obsessed" w/ STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous OR by IMPERSONATING me spouting stupid shit!

    APK

    P.S.=> You were useful to me though - thanks for-> https://science.slashdot.org/c... getting ME to look into that & "lo & behold" HOSTS DO STOP Intel CPU speculative execution weakness (by preventing what uses it to attack you from getting to you (or you to it rather))... apk

  24. What I don't do is "lay down" to weezils by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even folks like gweihir KNOW trolls IMPERSONATE me https://it.slashdot.org/commen...

    See subject: I never EVER once START it - trolls stalking me or impersonating me do! I only address them (lowest of the LOW) in kind if attacked!

    * They're SICK IN THE HEAD & "obsessed" w/ STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous OR by IMPERSONATING me spouting stupid shit - most likely because I made them look like FOOLS before & they're still "sensitive butthurt" like the CREAMPUFFS they are, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> HOWEVER - they were useful to me though https://science.slashdot.org/c... getting ME to look into that & "lo & behold" HOSTS DO STOP Intel CPU speculative execution weakness (by preventing what uses it to attack you from getting to you (or you to it rather))... apk

  25. gtall, don't be a GULLIBLE CHUMP! apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & gweihir put the icing on that cake for me right here https://it.slashdot.org/commen... as EVEN HE KNOWS the butthurt trolls I've annihilated for attacking me (on tech mostly where they beat themselves w/ errors) are still "butthurt" seeking "revenge" finding none on a valid tech level & INSTEAD impersonating me OR stalking me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts - FAILING that too as you can see in that link.

    They once tried to sign an ANONYMOUS POST (like I do) as 'gweihir' to 'stir me up' vs. him but I asked him nicely "Did YOU make that post" & he said NO (I believe him) - that's how STUPID & LAME they are.

    * Are you telling me you're THAT gullible you FELL for the bullshitter parent post? Please... don't be a GULLIBLE CHUMP, for your OWN sake!

    APK

    P.S.=> What really made me LAUGH was the fact their attempt @ making me "look bad" BACKFIRED ON THEM (portsmash/spectre/meltdown) here https://science.slashdot.org/c... as they got me to look into it & "lo & behold" - hosts DO help prevent those attacks! apk

  26. Re:LEAVE ME ALONE BULLIES (like you ZIP)... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Listen, asshole: GIVE IT UP. You're just shitting up the entire site and making an ass of yourself continually. Get a different email address, get a different account here, and START OVER FROM SCRATCH. Everybody's done it at least once around here, why should you be any different? In any case STOP SHITPOSTING. We're ALL sick and tired of it, KNOCK IT OFF!

  27. LOL! You already LOST w/ proof, loser... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & Everyone KNOWS you're IMPERSONATING me - gweihir PROVES it for me here https://it.slashdot.org/commen... chump!

    LMAO - you are FAILING: It's ALL YOUR KIND ("lowest of the LOW" online & in life - the not-men, the bitchboys) KNOW how to do!

    * ESPECIALLY HERE (love it) https://science.slashdot.org/c...

    (You're a PUNY LITTLE WORM that has to HIDE behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts STALKING ME, or by IMPERSONATING me (PROVING you WISH you were me, lol) & you've FAILED @ every turn vs. me - face facts: YOU ALWAYS WILL!)

    APK

    P.S.=> You LOSE, loser - the only thing you're good @ IS losing, lmao... apk

    1. Re: LOL! You already LOST w/ proof, loser... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think APK is paranoid schizophrenic. He posts these comments about bullying, then later on gets paranoid and thinks he's being impersonated. What you're seeing here is probably the result of severe mental illness that isn't being treated.

  28. APK is projecting again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You project about supporting yourself with AC posts, which is exactly what you do. You have a long history of posting replies to yourself and not signing them APK.

    You also project that you are mentally ill. It's obvious that you're in a very dark place mentally and are in serious need of treatment. I hope you get the mental health treatment you need before you snap and physically harm yourself or others.

    Seek professional help.

  29. Dear UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous STALKER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone KNOWS you're IMPERSONATING me - gweihir PROVES it for me here https://it.slashdot.org/commen... chump!

    LMAO - you are FAILING: It's ALL YOUR KIND ("lowest of the LOW" online & in life - the not-men, the bitchboys) KNOW how to do!

    * ESPECIALLY HERE (love it) https://science.slashdot.org/c...

    (You're a PUNY LITTLE WORM using "bitch tactics" FAILING that too that has to HIDE behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts STALKING ME, or by IMPERSONATING me (PROVING you WISH you were me, lol) & you've FAILED @ every turn vs. me - face facts: YOU ALWAYS WILL!)

    APK

    P.S.=> You LOSE, loser - the only thing you're good @ IS losing, lmao... apk

    1. Re: Dear UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous STALKER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope you get treatment for your paranoid schizophrenia. You need it, and soon.

  30. Your 1st mistake? Thought's beyond your kind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IF you *think* you're "fooling anyone", guess again - you're not https://it.slashdot.org/commen... chump!

    * Everyone knows you impersonate me (& stalk me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts as you are now BITCHBOY, lol - no balls & can't STAND BEHIND YOUR LIES stalking me UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous - such a 'brave guy' you are - not)!

    Proof from gweihir's in the link above (along w/ all the DOWNMOD you CONSTANTLY get too).

    APK

    P.S.=> I have to THANK "your kind" in trying to "make me look bad" & make hosts look "ineffectual" (impossible to do hence your BITCH tactics, lol - pitiful)?

    You did me a GIANT FAVOR & got me to look into the mechanics of ALL forms of Intel CPU speculative execution attack & "LO & BEHOLD", hosts act as preventative medicine https://science.slashdot.org/c... vs. them (stopping their delivery mechanisms by BLOCKING THEM OUT)

    That one? LOL - I totally KNOW it's KILLING YOU inside (hilarious & CLASSIC projection of it)... apk

    1. Re:Your 1st mistake? Thought's beyond your kind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yawn, useless fat incel fuck APK is ranting his delusions again, poor sad loser,

  31. RoTfLmAo - You're KILLING yourself... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: You = CAUGHT impersonating me https://it.slashdot.org/commen... & you HELPED me https://science.slashdot.org/c...

    * RoTfLmAo @ U fool... thanks!

    (That 2nd link BLOWS AWAY your attempts @ making hosts look ineffectual - impossible & your last card on the table was SHIT, lol!)

    APK

    P.S.=> Thanks for starting my day, as usual, LMAO @ U & all your downmoderations for IMPERSONATING ME & your STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous libeling me now too? Weak & INEFFECTUAL/EFFETE - like you... apk

  32. Now imagine the bird at 30 ft long by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With teeth the size of bananas! If dinosaurs were alive today, we would be in serious trouble...

  33. Oblig. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bow to our future Feathered Overlords - this is where it starts.

  34. Parrots... by BrianMarshall · · Score: 1

    I had an Amazon Parrot for 18 years. He was a great talker, but didn't do it unless he knew for sure what he was saying. One morning... He had been saying (and understanding), "How are you? Good?" for years. That morning he said, "How are you? Good? Say 'Yup'."

    I now have a Green Cheeked Conure. Words are his favorite toys. Just one example..... One day, when he was a few/several months old, he realized that "I" and "me" mean basically the same thing. He just thought this was wonderful - he was all excited, going, "I am me! I am parrot, me! I, me, me!"

    --
    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- HST
  35. Re:Other birds collude with Russia by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    If they "made it known," then why don't you know when the activities it accuses him of happened?

    You care, and you still don't know. Maybe nobody knows but me, the reporter, and the prosecutor.

    It doesn't fucking matter what you think of the rape charges. That was my point. The maximum penalty he was facing was less than what he already sentenced himself to in that fucking closet. And now, he finally has what he always wanted; a sealed indictment. From the United States. For helping to hack our election.

    The stuff he did in the past was stuff that pisses off the US Government, but is explicitly legal and protected here. He is not and never was going to be charged for any of that. These are current charges responding to recent events.

  36. Tyop by Briareos · · Score: 1

    Should say "Veterinary scientists from Vienna", not "Viena"...

    (But at least it doesn't say "Austrian Broadcast Company".)

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    "I'm not anti-anything, I'm anti-everything, it fits better." - Sole

    1. Re:Tyop by epine · · Score: 1

      Should say "Veterinary scientists from Vienna", not "Viena"...

      When you're typing with a beak, it's easy to lose the thread.

      Parrots demand Google Glass!